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On July 28 2011 03:27 wristuzi wrote:
Is anyone else having problems with playing on this mod on the EU server?
The first issue is that it seems to drop players while they are loading really frequently - like 2/3 of the time. This can mean it's a pain to find a game.
The second issue is that it seems a bit random as to when every player is forced to random, and when every player is allowed to choose (but can choose random). It's just weird that sometimes the game loads and everyone is randomed and sometimes the game loads and you can choose.
Those are the only problems I've been having. Thanks for the mod though ^^
Regarding the first issue: There is nothing I can do about this. It's a known problem that occurs with all custom maps but is obviously more apparent in more frequently played maps. As I said, this is a Battle.net issue that map authors have no control of.
About the second issue: That is a hidden feature of the mod which I introduced a few weeks ago. The host can force everyone to select a random unit. To do this yourself, click on the "Create Custom Game" button to bring up the list of custom games. Now search for "Team Monobattles" and pick the map you want to host it on. On the right hand side of the screen, you can select the Unit Selection mode (eg. "Random" to force everyone to pick a random unit). When you're ready, click on "Open to Public." While locked, the game's settings are locked and cannot be changed.
What you encountered is a game with a host who has done the process above.
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Suggestion: Make maps more easily accessible
I really enjoy the Monobattle Mod, but I'm sure I'm not the only one getting sick of the Megaton map. I know there are other maps mods out there but they aren't popular so they don't get played at all. Is it possible to implement a map-voting feature in the beginning like in Zealot Frenzy/Hero Battle.
I'm positive that will make the games more interesting.
Edit: Also if there is no intention in removing useless units like the warp prism or medivac, make them usable for the other players. Aka blue can load red's marines in his medivacs or red can warp into blue's warpprism field.
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Medivacs can heal allied units and warp prisms are the ultimate tool for cannon rushing...
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on EU everybody plays Extinction, that sucks even more^^
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Haha Zeon0, that's so true. We need to get games going on the other monobattle maps somehow.
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On July 29 2011 05:47 dudecrush wrote:
Medivacs can heal allied units and warp prisms are the ultimate tool for cannon rushing...
it's not a rush if you wait to get warp prisms first :p
and yeah, medivac ultra is baller
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Haven't you heard of the late cannon rush?
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Either way, I'd rather the map makers heavily prioritize the map-voting/choosing feature so that there's more variety and less Megaton/Extinction :D
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On July 29 2011 05:38 Luzon wrote:
I really enjoy the Monobattle Mod, but I'm sure I'm not the only one getting sick of the Megaton map. I know there are other maps mods out there but they aren't popular so they don't get played at all. Is it possible to implement a map-voting feature in the beginning like in Zealot Frenzy/Hero Battle.
I'm not sure I understand your suggestion. Since maps like Extinction are already quite large, it's difficult to have more than one "map" in the same map for the players to vote on.
This is how it will probably work, anyway:
People will eventually tire out of the Megaton and Extinction maps.
They'll search for another Team Monobattles map.
It'll get popular.
Etc.
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I think that taking the initiative is much better than letting certain maps phase in and out of popularity. For a great example, look up the game "Hero Attack". Basically before the game starts (during the time everyone is choosing their units) there is another voting block that has an option of 4 different maps to play on. Whichever gets the most votes is the map that is played.
Those maps seem pretty large but they are still viable options. I don't know a lick about making maps but it would be cool to have that feature.
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Gave the game a try. It was pretty fun. =]=] thanks
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On July 28 2011 07:11 Klishu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 03:27 wristuzi wrote:
Is anyone else having problems with playing on this mod on the EU server?
The first issue is that it seems to drop players while they are loading really frequently - like 2/3 of the time. This can mean it's a pain to find a game.
The second issue is that it seems a bit random as to when every player is forced to random, and when every player is allowed to choose (but can choose random). It's just weird that sometimes the game loads and everyone is randomed and sometimes the game loads and you can choose.
Those are the only problems I've been having. Thanks for the mod though ^^ Regarding the first issue: There is nothing I can do about this. It's a known problem that occurs with all custom maps but is obviously more apparent in more frequently played maps. As I said, this is a Battle.net issue that map authors have no control of.
There is definitely something wrong with the map though. It is pretty much unplayable due to like 70% of the time, lots of players will drop during loading (some kind of split possibly). I've never ever had this happen with any other map (and I do play maps that are several times more popular). However, it happens pretty much always with your map, which lots of people have noticed. This is also on the EU server.
It is a shame really since it is a good map but in its current state it is pretty much unplayable.
Also, when picking random you shouldn't be able to get the medivac (or warp prism, if you can get that). Getting a medivac is pretty much useless, especially since sometimes you don't even have anything that you can heal.
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This map taught me that medivacs can heal mutalisks.
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This game is so damn fun!
Can we get rid of warp prisms as a unit though? They are essentially the same as nydus networks or overlord drops, and unlike medivacs they can't actually participate in the battle.
Its really lame to have a teammate floating around making cannons everywhere while the other team just masses a deathball and rolls everything.
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A message to Monobattlers out there
The Day9's Monobattles Mod has reached version 1.26 now! I started the Mod from a request I've read on the Battle.net forums. Admittedly, I never expected any of the Team Monobattles mods to be some of the most played maps and I'm grateful that a good number of people have embraced the Monobattles format; I'm sure Day9 would be proud.
Albeit small, the tiny change I've made in 1.26 will change the way we play Monobattles for ever! Despite this, I'll always be on the lookout for feedback and suggestions so feel free to add yours below.
What makes Monobattles Awesome!
Anyway, let me begin by describing the aim of Monobattles: Monobattles are a idea made popular by Day9. Day9 issued a simple constraint, that is, for each player to select a single unit and build only that unit for the rest of the game. The magic of Monobattles is that the Melee format is left unchanged (collect resources, build units, kill structures) except for this tiny rule. By only changing this one rule, Monobattles give a fun, almost addictive twist, to the standard team melee games. This also means that Monobattles are easy to pick-up and intuitive for new players.
I've tried hard to keep the game true to its melee origins while enforcing THE single constraint of selecting only one unit. Unfortunately, as every Monobattler knows, I had to introduce some sort of limit to the Queen and up till now that's the only "extra" rule that existed. The reason for sticking so close to the rules is that, by doing so, I increase the competitive potential of Team Monobattles by tenfold.
I read a lot of comments on Monobattles and one popular comment is "Monobattles are for fun only!" I understand this and agree up to a certain point. But if you delve deeper into Monobattles you will notice that there is great potential for competitive teams to form around playing Monobattles. Many say that "picking random is the only way to play Monobattles" but I can say for certain that it is not true.
The most fun you can have in a Monobattle is when you have two teams of relatively skilled players who think out their strategy in terms of four definite units. These games turn out to be the most awesome games ever as one would see creativity, skill and teamwork like nothing you can see in a standard melee game. I still have yet to see any sort of competitive Monobattles action and I hope that the following change will entice people to hone their skills in Team Monobattles even further.
Go ahead, look at the minimap!
If I ask people to change any one thing from the mod, I'm sure many will just remove Warp Prisms outright. I'm not going to be that drastic so here goes. I hereby present the following two new rules to Team Monobattles:
* Warp Prisms can load allied Protoss units.
* Medivacs can load allied Terran units.
This should increase the possibilities available for Warp Prism/Medivac teams by a lot. I could give the same ability to Zerg Overlords with Ventral Sacs but I decided against that as all Zergs can build Ventral Sacs anyway and they also have extra mobility abilities in the form of the Nydus Network.
Closing comments
I'll closely monitor how Team Monobattles develop with these new rules and hope you enjoy your new found drop-attack tricks. I encourage you to try out the other Monobattles maps available on Battle.net (namely Extinction, Megaton and Arakan Citadel among others).
Also remember that the mod is freely available for any mapmaker so feel free to download it from Battle.net, take a look at it, change it or add it to your own map as a dependency.
Good luck and enjoy!
P.S.: For American players, please be patient. The Megaton map is the old version of the mod and I will be uploading the latest one soon.
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On August 06 2011 16:28 Klishu wrote:
If I ask people to change any one thing from the mod, I'm sure many will just remove Warp Prisms outright. I'm not going to be that drastic so here goes. I hereby present the following two new rules to Team Monobattles:
* Warp Prisms can load allied Protoss units.
* Medivacs can load allied Terran units.
This should increase the possibilities available for Warp Prism/Medivac teams by a lot. I could give the same ability to Zerg Overlords with Ventral Sacs but I decided against that as all Zergs can build Ventral Sacs anyway and they also have extra mobility abilities in the form of the Nydus Network.
The issue isn't that you can pick warp prism or medivac. The issue is that you can random it.
Lets say you random medivac and your team mates get colossus and immortal. At that point, the medivac player will drop from the game. As such, I doubt you could come up with any reason why he should stay and "enjoy" the game.
Same thing with warp prism (except it is even more useless as it can't even heal). Having it as a randomly selected unit just means that very often the player who gets it will just leave the game and the entire game is pretty much GGed as no one wants to play with less players on their team.
Also, I've played 4 games in a row now where more than half the players split/disconnected during loading each time. This on extinction EU. As such, this map has to be considered unplayable.
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On July 28 2011 07:11 Klishu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 03:27 wristuzi wrote:
Is anyone else having problems with playing on this mod on the EU server?
The first issue is that it seems to drop players while they are loading really frequently - like 2/3 of the time. This can mean it's a pain to find a game.
The second issue is that it seems a bit random as to when every player is forced to random, and when every player is allowed to choose (but can choose random). It's just weird that sometimes the game loads and everyone is randomed and sometimes the game loads and you can choose.
Those are the only problems I've been having. Thanks for the mod though ^^ Regarding the first issue: There is nothing I can do about this. It's a known problem that occurs with all custom maps but is obviously more apparent in more frequently played maps. As I said, this is a Battle.net issue that map authors have no control of. About the second issue: That is a hidden feature of the mod which I introduced a few weeks ago. The host can force everyone to select a random unit. To do this yourself, click on the "Create Custom Game" button to bring up the list of custom games. Now search for "Team Monobattles" and pick the map you want to host it on. On the right hand side of the screen, you can select the Unit Selection mode (eg. "Random" to force everyone to pick a random unit). When you're ready, click on "Open to Public." While locked, the game's settings are locked and cannot be changed. What you encountered is a game with a host who has done the process above.
Thanks for the answer, I had a feeling it was a problem on Blizzard's end, but just felt it was worth mentioning since it doesn't seem to happen on other custom maps.
And thanks for the explanation of the all random  I do think a voting/choice system at the beginning of the map (for both unit selection and map selection) would be useful, as it's a little confusing not knowing what kind of game you're going into. I understand that there would be a problem with the map sizes though, so it's no big deal.
The warp prism/medivac change seems good.
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On August 06 2011 16:28 Klishu wrote:+ Show Spoiler +A message to Monobattlers out there
The Day9's Monobattles Mod has reached version 1.26 now! I started the Mod from a request I've read on the Battle.net forums. Admittedly, I never expected any of the Team Monobattles mods to be some of the most played maps and I'm grateful that a good number of people have embraced the Monobattles format; I'm sure Day9 would be proud.
Albeit small, the tiny change I've made in 1.26 will change the way we play Monobattles for ever! Despite this, I'll always be on the lookout for feedback and suggestions so feel free to add yours below.
What makes Monobattles Awesome!
Anyway, let me begin by describing the aim of Monobattles: Monobattles are a idea made popular by Day9. Day9 issued a simple constraint, that is, for each player to select a single unit and build only that unit for the rest of the game. The magic of Monobattles is that the Melee format is left unchanged (collect resources, build units, kill structures) except for this tiny rule. By only changing this one rule, Monobattles give a fun, almost addictive twist, to the standard team melee games. This also means that Monobattles are easy to pick-up and intuitive for new players.
I've tried hard to keep the game true to its melee origins while enforcing THE single constraint of selecting only one unit. Unfortunately, as every Monobattler knows, I had to introduce some sort of limit to the Queen and up till now that's the only "extra" rule that existed. The reason for sticking so close to the rules is that, by doing so, I increase the competitive potential of Team Monobattles by tenfold.
I read a lot of comments on Monobattles and one popular comment is "Monobattles are for fun only!" I understand this and agree up to a certain point. But if you delve deeper into Monobattles you will notice that there is great potential for competitive teams to form around playing Monobattles. Many say that "picking random is the only way to play Monobattles" but I can say for certain that it is not true.
The most fun you can have in a Monobattle is when you have two teams of relatively skilled players who think out their strategy in terms of four definite units. These games turn out to be the most awesome games ever as one would see creativity, skill and teamwork like nothing you can see in a standard melee game. I still have yet to see any sort of competitive Monobattles action and I hope that the following change will entice people to hone their skills in Team Monobattles even further.
Go ahead, look at the minimap!
If I ask people to change any one thing from the mod, I'm sure many will just remove Warp Prisms outright. I'm not going to be that drastic so here goes. I hereby present the following two new rules to Team Monobattles:
* Warp Prisms can load allied Protoss units.
* Medivacs can load allied Terran units.
This should increase the possibilities available for Warp Prism/Medivac teams by a lot. I could give the same ability to Zerg Overlords with Ventral Sacs but I decided against that as all Zergs can build Ventral Sacs anyway and they also have extra mobility abilities in the form of the Nydus Network.
Closing comments
I'll closely monitor how Team Monobattles develop with these new rules and hope you enjoy your new found drop-attack tricks. I encourage you to try out the other Monobattles maps available on Battle.net (namely Extinction, Megaton and Arakan Citadel among others).
Also remember that the mod is freely available for any mapmaker so feel free to download it from Battle.net, take a look at it, change it or add it to your own map as a dependency.
Good luck and enjoy!
P.S.: For American players, please be patient. The Megaton map is the old version of the mod and I will be uploading the latest one soon.
Are we ever going to see units such as lurkers, vultures, or goliaths added to the unit selection in the near future?
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this is such a good idea, thanks for the map!!
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On August 07 2011 14:54 Zruku wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2011 16:28 Klishu wrote:+ Show Spoiler +A message to Monobattlers out there
The Day9's Monobattles Mod has reached version 1.26 now! I started the Mod from a request I've read on the Battle.net forums. Admittedly, I never expected any of the Team Monobattles mods to be some of the most played maps and I'm grateful that a good number of people have embraced the Monobattles format; I'm sure Day9 would be proud.
Albeit small, the tiny change I've made in 1.26 will change the way we play Monobattles for ever! Despite this, I'll always be on the lookout for feedback and suggestions so feel free to add yours below.
What makes Monobattles Awesome!
Anyway, let me begin by describing the aim of Monobattles: Monobattles are a idea made popular by Day9. Day9 issued a simple constraint, that is, for each player to select a single unit and build only that unit for the rest of the game. The magic of Monobattles is that the Melee format is left unchanged (collect resources, build units, kill structures) except for this tiny rule. By only changing this one rule, Monobattles give a fun, almost addictive twist, to the standard team melee games. This also means that Monobattles are easy to pick-up and intuitive for new players.
I've tried hard to keep the game true to its melee origins while enforcing THE single constraint of selecting only one unit. Unfortunately, as every Monobattler knows, I had to introduce some sort of limit to the Queen and up till now that's the only "extra" rule that existed. The reason for sticking so close to the rules is that, by doing so, I increase the competitive potential of Team Monobattles by tenfold.
I read a lot of comments on Monobattles and one popular comment is "Monobattles are for fun only!" I understand this and agree up to a certain point. But if you delve deeper into Monobattles you will notice that there is great potential for competitive teams to form around playing Monobattles. Many say that "picking random is the only way to play Monobattles" but I can say for certain that it is not true.
The most fun you can have in a Monobattle is when you have two teams of relatively skilled players who think out their strategy in terms of four definite units. These games turn out to be the most awesome games ever as one would see creativity, skill and teamwork like nothing you can see in a standard melee game. I still have yet to see any sort of competitive Monobattles action and I hope that the following change will entice people to hone their skills in Team Monobattles even further.
Go ahead, look at the minimap!
If I ask people to change any one thing from the mod, I'm sure many will just remove Warp Prisms outright. I'm not going to be that drastic so here goes. I hereby present the following two new rules to Team Monobattles:
* Warp Prisms can load allied Protoss units.
* Medivacs can load allied Terran units.
This should increase the possibilities available for Warp Prism/Medivac teams by a lot. I could give the same ability to Zerg Overlords with Ventral Sacs but I decided against that as all Zergs can build Ventral Sacs anyway and they also have extra mobility abilities in the form of the Nydus Network.
Closing comments
I'll closely monitor how Team Monobattles develop with these new rules and hope you enjoy your new found drop-attack tricks. I encourage you to try out the other Monobattles maps available on Battle.net (namely Extinction, Megaton and Arakan Citadel among others).
Also remember that the mod is freely available for any mapmaker so feel free to download it from Battle.net, take a look at it, change it or add it to your own map as a dependency.
Good luck and enjoy!
P.S.: For American players, please be patient. The Megaton map is the old version of the mod and I will be uploading the latest one soon.
Are we ever going to see units such as lurkers, vultures, or goliaths added to the unit selection in the near future?
Please do NOT do this. This mod should be about picking only one unit that is actually in the game, otherwise it just becomes a random custom map with extra units. It's like Desert Strike with made-up units, completely defeats the point of the game.
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