Having all of those destructable rocks seems to be a bit excessive, I mean why not just make those 9 and 3 o clock expos islands, it might make the map feel more focused. (cutting out those long paths.) But i do like all the different paths in the middle. So far its a good start.

Antares777

United States1971 Posts

September 15 2010 01:22 GMT

There is literally NO room on this map. Even the map analyzer says so.

I do not like the backdoor parts to your natural. I think it is too skinny and should be removed. Also, four DRs is too much. The middle is way too cramped.

EDIT: Make them islands.

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United States5003 Posts

September 15 2010 01:30 GMT

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September 15 2010 01:35 GMT

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dimfish

United States663 Posts

September 15 2010 04:29 GMT

Barrin, there is a bug in the analyzer I spotted from your summary image. It is supposed to print the number of Command Centers worth of space is in the main, and it's printing 0--but the main chokes are identified correctly. I'll check it out for ya

dimfish

United States663 Posts

September 15 2010 04:40 GMT

Nevermind, it's not a bug, just a poor setting for a new constant. Go into your constants.txt config file and change this line to value "8.0"

float spaceInMainChokeRadius = 8.0

I'll update the default value for a future release. If other value worked fine for the Blizz maps and other community maps I had, so I didn't notice it was so high.

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September 15 2010 05:54 GMT

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dezi

Germany1536 Posts

September 15 2010 08:13 GMT

What's the size of this map?

sob3k

United States7572 Posts

September 15 2010 08:22 GMT

#10

This is not a good map for zerg, even if it is 240x240.

Every time you have a highground/lowground transition or cliff= bad for zerg

Corridors are STILL far too narrow, many are only a CC and a bit wide, this is far too narrow to allow a zerg to get a surround in.

dimfish

United States663 Posts

September 15 2010 08:50 GMT

#11

Thanks man--I wrote it for myself to do just that! Are you going to replace the summary pic with the correct size of the mains? I think they are quite large compared to Blizz main bases.

Randomaccount#77123

United States5003 Posts

September 15 2010 17:20 GMT

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United States5003 Posts

November 10 2010 18:23 GMT

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EatThePath

United States3943 Posts

November 11 2010 03:11 GMT

#14

First a point of clarification: the ridges at 12 and 6... do they have a double elevation ramp on either side? If so, how is that possible?

Randomaccount#77123

United States5003 Posts

November 11 2010 04:51 GMT

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KrUnch

Australia54 Posts

November 11 2010 04:54 GMT

#16

I like it, although a small change i'd make ( keep in mind i've made to this day, zero starcraft maps), i would change the ramp out of your main. move it so its closer to the middle to decrease the distance between mains. just a little. for example on the bottem right spot; move it down 2 big squars and to the left 2 squares. a very little change but being zerg i see tanks on the cliff there having quite alot of free shots b4 units can get up that ramp(or any unit really).

But overall, i like the map

KrUnch

Australia54 Posts

November 11 2010 04:57 GMT

#17

oh and i would make the xel naga towers haeva bit more range. unless i really underestimate the scale, they dont seem to cover the path that and army would walk over unless your cross map position.

EatThePath

United States3943 Posts

November 11 2010 05:25 GMT

#18

I agree it's very cool. It's not really relevant in itself, but the seamlessness it provides to the adjoining territories of differing elevations is quite nice.

Since you have SO much space to work with, why not build the map in such a way that it starts constricted but can be opened up over time (with rocks primarily I guess). If you have a center area that is normal by the usual standards, it would look like a choke point here. Have overlooking areas accessible by rocks. Put the watchtowers there. Have even more space in a ring outside of that, possibly with expansions. This would help add some interest to giant expanses, and it would balance things a bit. Terrans and protoss want defensible, centralized terrain against zerg. If they customize how they expand into the map, this helps them stay in control. But assiduous zergs can just break all the rocks away. However this opens the walkways between expansions, helping a terran or protoss player more quickly march between various expansions and their own defensive positions.

Also I don't want to advocate too heavily in this direction, but hostile units in various places seems cool. Like big friggin armies of 'em.

Randomaccount#77123

United States5003 Posts

November 11 2010 06:16 GMT

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United States5003 Posts

November 11 2010 06:20 GMT

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KrUnch

Australia54 Posts

November 11 2010 06:36 GMT

#21

ahh yeah i thought the map was like half the size of what it actually is. I have no idea how to judge a map of this size. Makes me more interested to try it out though!

Randomaccount#77123

United States5003 Posts

November 11 2010 23:05 GMT

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EatThePath

United States3943 Posts

November 12 2010 01:48 GMT

#23

I completely understand, no worries. I play protoss myself, so it's hard for me to go down this road of yours...