[GE]Fighting Spirit in SC2!

prodiG

Canada2016 Posts

April 23 2010 02:51 GMT

Map is UP on US on Patch 15, haven't had any luck publishing on EU for some reason...
Go to custom > create game, and search "Fighting Spirit" under Popular

To anyone who wants to use this map in a tournament, shoot me a PM and let me know. I definitely won't say no, but if there are matches going to be played I'd like to know when to watch 8D

Fighting Spirit SC2 recently won qxc's SC2 BW mapmaking contest! Showmatches with team root TBA
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I am currently testing this map as well as my first original map (2) Impervious

I need feedback! Test the map out and tell me what you think about it!

Pics of progress:
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Pic of version 1.13
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Pics of version 1.11
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Pics of version 1.8
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Pic of version 1.7
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Pic of version 1.6
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Original map
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Pic of version 1.5
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Pic of version 1.4.1
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Pic of version 1.3
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These pics are before version 1.3
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I'll call these pics of the beta version because me having a beta sounds cool
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--These are before doodads were added and the textures were finally touched up, <1.0
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These are before I had the layout done
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I started by using the import legacy map tool, which decided not to do anything with the terrain on the top part of the map :/
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Two bases done!
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Three bases!

Map Features:

-Center base has rich geysers which return 6 per trip, and 12 patches instead of the standard 8. (In the original, there was two geysers which was double the gas you'd get from a normal base.)
-Center base blocked by a destructible rock
-All naturals can be walled in with forge gateway cannon side-by-side, or barracks barracks depot
-Cannot build on bridge or around it (Like in BW, there are 1x1 holes so Zerg can place creep tumors)
-Cannot walk or blink across the spiky area between main and 3rd. (like in bw)
-Cannot walk on any of the cliff edges around the naturals or the middle (like in bw)
-Reapers and colossi cannot move over the walls in the middle.
-Watchtowers at the north and south ends of the middle diamond. This is still up for testing

Feedback is appreciated!
CHANGELOG
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Changes in v1.1
-Increased the size of the rivers to prevent siege tanks shooting into the nat across the river.
-Changed some doodads and foliage
Changes in v1.2
-Reworked textures to be more consistent
-Fixed some pathing issues
-Smoothed the hills between main and 3rd so air units don't fly 9999 miles in the air while over a giant spike
Changes in v1.3
-Changed the building pathing to be more like brood war
-Added two watchtowers
-Cosmetic terrain changes
-Made all bridges the same width and distance from nat
Changes in v1.4.1
-Boundaries fixed; They were exploitable by air
-Fixed so that stalkers cannot blink from main to 3rd
-Retextured the water to make the map feel a little darker, like SC1
-Retextured the bases to look more natural
-Changed some doodads
-Fixed the glitch texture at bottom-right's ramp
Changes in v1.4.2
-Texture adjustments
-Mineral patches now look different and natural
Changes in v1.5
-My will to continue working on this today
-Lighting of the map
-Touched up some missed water spots and textures
Changes in v1.6
-Fixed more textures
-Moved geysers to the corner of the mains
Changes in v1.7
-Map rebuilt, now symmetrical
-Mineral patches placed correctly
-Retextured
-Changed border
-Added LOS blocker around watchtower. This is still up for testing.
Changes in v1.8
-Vastly improved the map aesthetically
-Added doodads
-Changed water scheme
-Retextured
-Added more detail into the border and map architecture
Changes in v1.9
-Changed the layout of the resources at each base to better look like an SC2 map
-Added 1x1 holes in the unbuildable area so Zerg can spread creep
-Made the map 4 player instead of 1. Oops~
Changes in v1.10
-Added two more Xel'Naga Towers
-Moved them so they can no longer see into the 3rd (and spot creep)
-Published the map for the public to play
-Fixed some textures
-Fixed the Map picture in the load screen.
[u]Changes in v1.10 and v1.11
-Fixed the teams, map can now be set to melee
-fixed some textures
-Checkerboarded non-buildable area to make placing creep tumors much easier
-Resized some trees so that they should no longer interfere with gameplay
Changes in v1.12
-Changed water
Changes in v1.13
-Changed mineral patches in the center from normal to gold. This is still up for testing
-Aesthetical improvements
-Can now click "Open to public"
Changes in v1.14
-Removed watchtowers completely. This is a bit of a judgement call, but I didn't like the way the games were playing out with them on the map.
-Made bridges 1 matrix more narrow - It wasn't much of a choke the way it was
-Aesthetical improvements

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deth

Australia1757 Posts

April 23 2010 02:56 GMT

Looks freaking awesome so far, cant wait for maps like this to get out there which will promote higher economy games, hopefully making army sizes bigger and in turn micromanagement harder

Should get whoever takes over the map to make the center field gold as well.

prodiG

Canada2016 Posts

April 23 2010 02:57 GMT

On April 23 2010 11:56 dethrawr wrote:
Looks freaking awesome so far, cant wait for maps like this to get out there which will promote higher economy games, hopefully making army sizes bigger and in turn micromanagement harder

Should get whoever takes over the map to make the center field gold as well.

i was actually thinking 2x rich vespene geyser (as in high yield)

Tdelamay

Canada548 Posts

April 23 2010 03:10 GMT

I started working on a melee map; it's called Alterac :D The sides aren't balanced or anything, but it's the outline.

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prodiG

Canada2016 Posts

April 23 2010 03:11 GMT

I also think if the center has rich geysers, it should be blocked by a destructible rock

Aduromors

United States279 Posts

April 23 2010 03:44 GMT

Keep in mind you need to have actual cliffs and not just morphed terrain. If you use morphed terrain units will not hesitate to swim the channel rather than using the bridges

ComradeDover

Bulgaria758 Posts

April 23 2010 03:47 GMT

On April 23 2010 12:44 Aduromors wrote:
Keep in mind you need to have actual cliffs and not just morphed terrain. If you use morphed terrain units will not hesitate to swim the channel rather than using the bridges

This is very important. Be sure you're using the cliff tool when sectioning off impassable water areas.

Leoj

United States396 Posts

April 23 2010 03:48 GMT

Looks pretty good, can't wait to see a finished product. =)

CowGoMoo

United States428 Posts

April 23 2010 03:56 GMT

On April 23 2010 11:51 prodiG wrote:
-The cliffs around the nats need pathing blockers so ground units can't get on them
-I'm not sure if the rough elevation between the main and the 3rd will block units, but i've placed pathing blockers there anyway
-Everything outside the blue border is garbage, if I understand the editor correctly
-There are no spawn locations, I couldn't find them
-The vespene geysers disappeared when I tried to place them :/
-It needs details. Badly. :/

If anyone does go ahead and finish this, give some credit to prodiG for getting it started, will ya? ;D

Use cliffs, dont use pathing blockers. (height changes dont affect pathing, only cliffs do)
Start locations are in the points layer.
The yellow border is where your camera stops, the blue border is where units stop moving. (i think)

s2pid_loser

United States699 Posts

April 23 2010 04:00 GMT

#10

nicely done
cant wait til the finished product

prodiG

Canada2016 Posts

April 23 2010 05:26 GMT

#11

I was kind of wondering about that...

and i was avoiding using cliffs for between the bases because i can't put little bits of cliff that nothing can land on like in sc1

prodiG

Canada2016 Posts

April 24 2010 03:20 GMT

#12

Yet another shameless bump:
I posted the finished product!
what do you guys think?

Toran7

United States160 Posts

April 24 2010 03:28 GMT

#13

Man this map looks really intense, great job ProdiG

FortuneSyn

1826 Posts

April 24 2010 03:30 GMT

#14

ProdiG good job man! Can't wait to play that

Zelniq

United States7166 Posts

April 24 2010 03:31 GMT

#15

daaaaaaamn i cant wait for the patch that lets users publish maps so theyre playable on bnet!

prodiG

Canada2016 Posts

April 24 2010 03:32 GMT

#16

On April 24 2010 12:28 Toran7 wrote:
Man this map looks really intense, great job ProdiG

Thanks. I'm thinking about putting watchtowers on the top and bottom of the middle area, not far from the 3rd exit. Thoughts?~

AssuredVacancy

United States1167 Posts

April 24 2010 03:32 GMT

#17

Looks like you can siege the nat's gas from the outside if you have vision at 7 and 11?

statix

United States1760 Posts

April 24 2010 03:33 GMT

#18

noob question...what folder do i save this in?

prodiG

Canada2016 Posts

April 24 2010 03:34 GMT

#19

On April 24 2010 12:32 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Looks like you can siege the nat's gas from the outside if you have vision at 7 and 11?

I agree!
i'll have to test and fix!
looking at FE from SC1 the river is a little bigger around that area, nice catch

@Statix:
if you want to try this on bnet, http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/344-play-custom-maps-on-official-battle-net-custom-games/

otherwise I have no idea, i've only been running it straight out of galaxy editor

Mastermind

Canada7096 Posts

April 24 2010 03:35 GMT

#20

Really well done. I look forward to trying it out.

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