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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 13 2005 18:06 GMT
#1
wow
what incredible use of the always feared queen-lurker combo








.... and those storms....
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
February 13 2005 19:12 GMT
#2
How many sunkens did the z have...?
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
February 13 2005 19:21 GMT
#3
Fucking art.
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
February 13 2005 19:25 GMT
#4
enough to make sure that if he couldnt kill the protoss it would be a draw
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13426 Posts
February 13 2005 19:31 GMT
#5
I wanted to see him use dark swarm on the sunks. It woulda been so cool =D
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
koehli
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany350 Posts
February 13 2005 22:08 GMT
#6
On February 14 2005 04:31 RowdierBob wrote:
I wanted to see him use dark swarm on the sunks. It woulda been so cool =D


Sunkens are buildings. Buildings are not protected from darks swarm. Dark swarming sunkens is not cool, it makes no fucking difference. Every unit can attack sunkens as if dark swarm wasn' t there, sunkenes kill units as if dark swarm wasn't there, together reducing swarm to just a graphic artefact in sunken vs something battles.
You go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
February 13 2005 22:32 GMT
#7
he was referring to the protoss using the defiler he mind controlled to kill the sunkens,
i was looking forward to him mind controlling some things to consume for some swarm action
AUSSIESCUM
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hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
February 13 2005 22:48 GMT
#8
mc an overlord full of lings :D

rofl @ koehli
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koehli
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany350 Posts
February 13 2005 22:50 GMT
#9
SoMuchBetter, thanks for making me watch the replay, it was well worth it :-) Yet I stand to the claim that swarming sunkens makes no difference as sunken can be shot at and do hit under swarm allthesame ;-)

Btw, MC is good idea to fight against that 200 supply zerg > 200 supply toss problem. I always end up with not enough money on that path though. Now back to watching, my prediction ist toss will die from starvation :-)

You go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
February 13 2005 23:09 GMT
#10
as logic defying as it is, sunkens cant hit under swarm
AUSSIESCUM
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jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
February 13 2005 23:57 GMT
#11
Too bad he lost=) gah...he could have used those 420 minerals from hijacking a drone and go hatch and convert to zerg. Would have been evne cooler
Enter a Uh
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-14 02:19:39
February 14 2005 02:15 GMT
#12
I think RowdierBob meant that it would have been cool for the protoss to use swarm on sunkens and attack with melee units to get protected from the sunken attack while koehli is saying that if the zerg used swarm on sunkens, it would not receive the benefits of swarm because it is a building.
bburn
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1039 Posts
February 14 2005 03:58 GMT
#13
Was it just me or did anyone else think the protoss needed a few more gates earlier in the game?
banana[AfO]
FrEaK[S.sIR]
Profile Joined October 2002
2373 Posts
February 14 2005 06:11 GMT
#14
buildings are still effected by swarm.. =[
pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
February 14 2005 08:18 GMT
#15
THis was a GREAT rep

SOOO many props to toss user

He stopped MANY drops COLD with Maelstrom
Good...Bad... Im the guy with the gun
pheered.user
Profile Joined March 2003
United States2603 Posts
February 14 2005 09:51 GMT
#16
simply amazing, wow what a great game.
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ubergamer15
Profile Joined January 2005
United States645 Posts
February 14 2005 11:10 GMT
#17
Wow. That's... Wow.
I can only say one thing:

Protect the forge!
An optimist sees the glass half-full. A pessimist sees the glass half-empty. An engineer sees a waste of half a glass.
Kaotu
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States986 Posts
February 14 2005 11:20 GMT
#18
hmmm

amazed by both sides, really

zerg really knew how to wittle him down

protoss really.... just amazing

Stunning replay, actually I'm considering this one one of my top 10s. Truly awesome.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
February 14 2005 11:32 GMT
#19
That was an awesome game, so thanks to the people who played it, and he who uploaded it. Those maelstroms and MC's were scary, and they both played very well! Wow we need mroe reps like this. Amazing......
inc
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden889 Posts
February 14 2005 11:48 GMT
#20
yeah.. he should have mced a drone and make a hatch :o
i savour every bit of the numerous gifts life is offering me, having no worries, goals or regrets, constantly trading time for pleasure
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13426 Posts
February 14 2005 14:45 GMT
#21
I meant the protoss should have used the defiler he MCed to kill the sea of sunkens
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28821 Posts
February 14 2005 15:42 GMT
#22
sunkens cannot hit under swarm
all units can hit sunkens under swarm
in other news, this game was awesome. ^_^
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Breavman
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden598 Posts
February 14 2005 16:55 GMT
#23
This game is a classic. Only problem is toss was meant to win, even if he wasn't really close enough for me to start hoping.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
February 14 2005 18:49 GMT
#24
Thanks to 8882 for providing a link to where I could download it :p
Moderator
RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
February 14 2005 21:14 GMT
#25
Hahaha, STIMEY used to use the name seapal :D
heavy hand upon the land, feel it's weight inside you
LogaiN
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden1073 Posts
February 15 2005 01:42 GMT
#26
sweet game. but i doubt it would be smart to take a drone, since protoss never had that much money (and run out of it in the end)
GulleFjuN@Europe
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
February 15 2005 03:41 GMT
#27
I'd just LOVE to quote Corbalts "I am the best PvZ on neogamei" "Dark Archons suck. Peroid." In here. But no search function...
11 years and counting- TL #680
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
February 15 2005 08:37 GMT
#28
aww man, I wish protoss won that game, he deserved it.

Maybe Arbiters would been helped.
We decide our own destiny
kuwakJai
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Thailand198 Posts
February 15 2005 11:14 GMT
#29
i was thinkin the same think, that he should mc a drone and make hatch
but if u look carefully, it was impossible as every single drone was in range of a sunken..
the Illuminated lantern
beanmachine
Profile Joined December 2003
United States115 Posts
February 16 2005 13:04 GMT
#30
zerg could have ended it much earlier with mass hydra
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
February 18 2005 05:01 GMT
#31
On February 14 2005 07:08 koehli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2005 04:31 RowdierBob wrote:
I wanted to see him use dark swarm on the sunks. It woulda been so cool =D


Sunkens are buildings. Buildings are not protected from darks swarm. Dark swarming sunkens is not cool, it makes no fucking difference. Every unit can attack sunkens as if dark swarm wasn' t there, sunkenes kill units as if dark swarm wasn't there, together reducing swarm to just a graphic artefact in sunken vs something battles.


Lol. You lack so much.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 18 2005 23:35 GMT
#32
On February 14 2005 07:08 koehli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2005 04:31 RowdierBob wrote:
I wanted to see him use dark swarm on the sunks. It woulda been so cool =D


Sunkens are buildings. Buildings are not protected from darks swarm. Dark swarming sunkens is not cool, it makes no fucking difference. Every unit can attack sunkens as if dark swarm wasn' t there, sunkenes kill units as if dark swarm wasn't there, together reducing swarm to just a graphic artefact in sunken vs something battles.

Sunkens dont kill units as if the swarm wasn't there.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
February 19 2005 15:38 GMT
#33
He shoulda mc'ed that scv and made a cc and rolled out with mnm/tanks/vessels/archons/ht/da
bisu fanboy
Payt1
Profile Joined May 2004
418 Posts
February 20 2005 04:50 GMT
#34
On February 15 2005 10:42 LogaiN wrote:
sweet game. but i doubt it would be smart to take a drone, since protoss never had that much money (and run out of it in the end)
I think the Z suspected he'd do that too, he was going for the shuttle really agressively. without the shuttle, there's really no chance of the toss pulling it off.
http://www.deported.net/replays/PCKJreplaypack.zip
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