EPTif the goal of TSL is to emulate the korean leagues, such basic rules need to be upheld. everyone knows that at the end of a game you're supposed to type gg, there is really no excuse not to.
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LosingID8
CA10835 Posts
if the goal of TSL is to emulate the korean leagues, such basic rules need to be upheld. everyone knows that at the end of a game you're supposed to type gg, there is really no excuse not to. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
There is no official rule and there is no unofficial consensus. Ofcourse not, respecting your opponent is not required at all, that's why it's so important that you say gg to show it. Don't do it? Fine but don't count on anyone respecting you after it for being immature. In retrospect, I guess to Draco it is reassurance that he is respected by his opponent. I find it silly that he needs such reassurance after every game he wins, You're trying to turn the whole thing around into Draco feeling insecure if someone doesn't say gg to him? Jesus christ just STOP. I always thought you were a cool guy, you should've just admitted you lost your cool and didn't gg, not come up with some bullshit story telling us that somehow this makes Draco seem like the lesser player, you don't honestly believe that do you. | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
On May 31 2008 11:24 Xeris wrote: Saying gg is like etiquette... if you do something at a fancy dinner that defies etiquette, like burp really loud or something, people are going to get offended. Just because "it means nothing to you" doesn't make it right for you to do it, socially speaking. It's the same with saying gg. What this man said! | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3434 Posts
What a load of crap ;- ) | ||
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Proposal
United States1310 Posts
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ZlyKiss
Poland697 Posts
On May 31 2008 20:21 evanthebouncy! wrote: Who cares if ppl don't say gg... "gg" strictly means "good game" and if I play a bad game I wouldn't say gg. I would say stuff like fdasfeakfjdlsa; or Bah! or Oh well you say `good morning` even if it isnt so good | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
Yes, his post doesn't make any sense. He is just rationalizing. He should just say: "I was pissed off. I played like crap. I didn't want to say 'gg'. I don't like saying 'gg' when I lose. Draco has all my respect. He played well." Attack him on that point. Not on the 'gg' one. That's so superficial. I think it's bad mannered for Draco to have brought it up. I thought it was nonsense people called him arrogant or bm when Draco said he didn't practice. If they don't want to believe that, fine. But that also went too far. Now all this drama It's all so straight forward... | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
PS: If you still think NonY is a BM jerk making shit up, you should look at what he's done for the community. NonY is obviously a great community person, and it's the reason I was cheering for him to take the whole TSL in the first place. Commentaries and FPVODs are things he never had to do, but he wanted to be a nice guy so he released them. | ||
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nezera
Indonesia176 Posts
@Brat 3-0 plz | ||
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Jaskwith
United States197 Posts
On May 31 2008 21:14 ret wrote: i'm sure nony doesn't say gg for a reason, and it's cause he hates losing, he just fabricates a theory here that really makes anyone think..why bother giving it so much thought and just say gg like everyone else. Yes Sir. | ||
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iLjh
United States160 Posts
On May 31 2008 09:21 Last Romantic wrote: I think there definitely is an 'unofficial consensus' that considers saying 'gg' after games part of mannered gaming etiquette. Edit: That being said, I understand where Nony's coming from. The only issue for me is that saying 'gg' is part of our TSL rules so perhaps it would have been better to say it. end of discussion. nony was wrong and obviously didn't read the rules seeing as how saying "gg" is part of the tsl rules. so no more of this "unofficial" crap.. it's official. also, why are people bashing draco for bringing up that nony didn't say gg? ever since sc started people have always said gg in order to proclaim "good game" whether it was one or not. take korean leagues for example, it is mandatory for the gamer to type out "gg" before leaving or else they are penalized. why is that? because it's a show of manner and respect, both areas in which nony lacks in. why do you have to come up with some shit explaining why you don't say "gg" and fill it with words that a good amount of tl.net users wont understand? you're doing nothing but making yourself look like an imbecile. just admit your wrong and apologize for it.. that's all you had to do. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
TL.net dude #1: Okay, everybody cough up the gg's for the draco. TL.net dude #1: C'mon, throw in a gg. Nony: Uh-uh. I don't say gg. TL.net dude #1: Whaddaya mean you don't say gg? Nony: I don't believe in it. TL.net dude #1: You don't believe in saying gg? TL.net dude #2: I love this kid, he's a madman, this guy. TL.net dude #3: Do you have any idea how many gg's Draco gets? He gets shit. Nony: Don't give me that. He don't make enough gg's, he can quit. TL.net dude #1: I don't even know an USEast-player who'd have the balls to say that. So let's get this straight. You never ever say gg? Nony: I don't say gg because society says I gotta. I gg when somebody deserves a gg. When somebody really puts forth an effort, they deserve a little something extra. But this gg'ing automatically, that shit's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doin their job. TL.net dude #4: Draco was nice. Nony: Draco was okay. He didn't do anything special. TL.net dude #2: What's something special, dark templar rush followed up by mass mind control and finish up with mass scout? TL.net dude #1: I'd go over twelve percent for that. Nony: Look, I ordered some harsh ownage. Now we've been here a long fuckin time, and he's only owned my ass three times. When I ask for ownage, I want to be owned six times. TL.net dude #2: What if he's too busy? Nony: The words "too busy" shouldn't be in Draco's vocabulary. TL.net dude #1: Excuse me, Nony, but the last thing you need is another case of ownage. Nony: Draco isn't starvin to death. He makes the minimum amount of gg's. When I worked for gg's, I wasn't lucky enough to have a job that society deemed ggworthy. | ||
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Midnight)Sun
United States256 Posts
Edit: It's my favorite scene in that movie. Gotta love Mr. Pink. | ||
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
United States2869 Posts
I'm pretty sure he ment it as a compliment, but it could of been a sausagefest remark, in that cause. DOUCHE, GO JF. serioulsy though, good luck to both and lets hope for some good games, i'm rooting for JF. | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On May 31 2008 21:14 ret wrote: i'm sure nony doesn't say gg for a reason, and it's cause he hates losing, he just fabricates a theory here that really makes anyone think..why bother giving it so much thought and just say gg like everyone else. this and nothing else. | ||
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Deimos0
Poland277 Posts
btw, go Draco! :D | ||
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Symphonia
Sweden4 Posts
It's just manners, live with it, even if you think it's pointless. | ||
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lowchi
United States2 Posts
he didn't damn anyone to hell. he didn't spit on dracos game play. and he took the time out to write a 3-4 paragraph post to explain himself. which in my opinion ( everyone can have one! watch out! ) - is disrespecting nony. shuving him to the defensive for just not wanting to say gg? i've played sc-scBW since December of '98. i've seen thousands of end game sayings and ways people express themselves for a loss or win. and yes 'gg' is the universal way to end a game. but heres another opinion - saying gg, doesn't define the player. and from my solid 10 years of playing sc i can say one thing for sure. everyone has left a game without saying a bloody thing. upset and overheated to the lack of their mechanics in the last 45 minutes - you just (we all just), shut the computer off period. does that take away all you've contributed to the sc scene? does that take away all your hard work and practice towards the game? well, (imo) no. so please before hammering nails in someone, take a second to analyze everything you've done in the past, and realize nobody's perfect and we all have our ways. this was in no way intended to bash anyone, not even the harshest of commentors on this forum taking direct punches at nony. please realize that ripping someone apart over personal opinion would of led to the end of the world before you any of us inhabited it. but you can make your own judgment on the situation. draco and nony, and everyone else in the tsl thus far - gg's really. gg tonight nony and brat. just play the game good and well, keep the community alive. this game means alot. | ||
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iLjh
United States160 Posts
On June 01 2008 04:18 lowchi wrote: one consideration you could take in is what previous posters have said about nonys contributions to the foreign sc scene in general. i for one, appreciate his fpvods - as humorous and helpful as they are. he's a great player, and he has his ways and opinions, just like everyone else ( this thread shows everyone can have an opinion ). i just personally think its wrong to crucify him for leaving private rated matches without saying gg. he didn't damn anyone to hell. he didn't spit on dracos game play. and he took the time out to write a 3-4 paragraph post to explain himself. which in my opinion ( everyone can have one! watch out! ) - is disrespecting nony. shuving him to the defensive for just not wanting to say gg? i've played sc-scBW since December of '98. i've seen thousands of end game sayings and ways people express themselves for a loss or win. and yes 'gg' is the universal way to end a game. but heres another opinion - saying gg, doesn't define the player. and from my solid 10 years of playing sc i can say one thing for sure. everyone has left a game without saying a bloody thing. upset and overheated to the lack of their mechanics in the last 45 minutes - you just (we all just), shut the computer off period. does that take away all you've contributed to the sc scene? does that take away all your hard work and practice towards the game? well, (imo) no. so please before hammering nails in someone, take a second to analyze everything you've done in the past, and realize nobody's perfect and we all have our ways. this was in no way intended to bash anyone, not even the harshest of commentors on this forum taking direct punches at nony. please realize that ripping someone apart over personal opinion would of led to the end of the world before you any of us inhabited it. but you can make your own judgment on the situation. draco and nony, and everyone else in the tsl thus far - gg's really. gg tonight nony and brat. just play the game good and well, keep the community alive. this game means alot. there's a difference between every-day bw games and the semi-final matches from one of the most prestigious tournaments outside of korea. | ||
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