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[Interviews] TSL Finals - Page 5
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IPS.ZeRo
Germany1142 Posts
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On May 29 2008 20:07 Kwark wrote: Not saying gg is pretty bm. Saying gg is admitting defeat, and thus that you were outplayed. Not saying gg is refusing to give your opponent the respect he deserves for outplaying you. It implies it wasn't a good game, that it was somehow unfair or that you were unlucky. To me gg represents the concept that there is no luck in Starcraft, that the winner made better strategic decisions and this should be respected by the loser. I've taken this to other games I play too, always ending games of squash with a "good game" and a handshake. The winner played better and the loser should be able to acknowledge this and act respectfully. QFT. I dont think it could have been put better. Not saying gg is disrespectful. I like Nony, but this is making me think twice about him. Oh, and for the finals, Go Canada Go! | ||
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Lenwe
Netherlands757 Posts
For the record, I gg everyone that rapes me on ICCUP. <edit> And go JF, win me that mousepad. Respect to Draco though, that was a really good interview. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8091 Posts
it should be a pimp finals, lets hope it isnt over in 30 mins | ||
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pooper-scooper
United States3108 Posts
Did you tailor any builds specific to Brat_OK, or did you just play your own style? I just played how I normally play. I do not want to use specific builds against a player's "style" because he can easily change it and screw me over. and Game 3 was on Othello. Drops seem to be good on this map, so do you feel this map suits your style? I tend to adapt to how my opponent plays. My style usually depends on my opponent's style, so I wouldn't say it suited 'my style'. If he went mass dropships, then I would mass shuttles or something to counter it, it all depends. I'm sure that there is a distinction I'm missing =) | ||
Aesop
Hungary11304 Posts
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expostfacto
United States365 Posts
Will we get 3rd place interviews, too? plz +1 | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32087 Posts
On May 29 2008 21:00 Boblion wrote: Ok i'm no longer draco #1 hater. Good interviews. Agreed. He doesn't come off as cocky in this interview. Im still not rooting for him though | ||
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DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32087 Posts
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NonY -
United States7 Posts
In retrospect, I guess to Draco it is reassurance that he is respected by his opponent. I find it silly that he needs such reassurance after every game he wins, but if that's what I must do to be respectful to him, then I'd do it. I think it's bad manner to be winning 2-0 and call your opponent bad manner before the third game starts, which is what Draco did to me. It would have been much nicer if he had just asked "do you respect me?" if that's what he truly sought. He was definitely being hostile, perhaps only because he thought I was being hostile, but there was no mistaking his disrespect to me at that point. I suppose he already decided that I was bad manner beyond repair and so he was satisfied to just judge and condemn me rather than utilize patience and tolerance to reach the truth. The absence of gg in my match against Draco has communicated a sentiment which I never had and so I apologize for that miscommunication. I respect all the TSL participants, including Draco. I wish all the spectators to simply enjoy the games and I wish to do nothing that would obstruct that enjoyment. If Draco became hostile only because he thought I was hostile, then it was simply a misunderstanding and I happily forgive him. For practical use, I despise indirect communication such as the symbolic act of saying gg. So if you want to know something of me, please ask directly and spare us both the effort of attempting communication through confusing, impractical and often faulty means. It is unsettling to see misinterpretations of my communications lead to bad opinions of me and I imagine it is just as uncomfortable for you all to have to draw conclusions with insufficient perspective. I hope my post will rid us of these troubles. | ||
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stacker
United States32 Posts
On May 30 2008 06:35 sasal wrote: Nobody plays everytime his best. Your opponents suffer the same problems. Only replying gg when you are winning and felt like you played good while say nothing when your opponent might had the better hand this time is egocentric. When you feel like you could do better you can keep it by yourself and better luck next time. No need to diminish the fun and preformance of the ones who went out luckier against you this time. There is very little luck involved in this game. Skill is what defines each player. I stand by my opinion that saying gg is customary but not obligatory. You won, go ahead and relish in your victory. There is no need in toiling in the fact that your opponent didn't 'honor' your win. | ||
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Sean.G
Spain889 Posts
Perhaps it is because you are a relatively "new" player that you don't quite understand this? Anyway it is good that you explain your thoughts on it. People will hopefully understand that you didn't mean to be disrespectful or anything. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
You generally strike me as a nice guy, but you seem to let yourself down occasionally by acting like this. | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
you guys make too big a deal about this whole gg after games you call that bm? that isn't real bm bm is flagging the guy at the newb at the end and cussing the hell out of them after the game just because the pro gamers do it doesn't make it right. i cannot recall the last time i typed gg at the emd of a game regardless of win or loss i think its stupid especially when you know you didn't play your best, or the game was total crap. who wants to watch a game that's craptacular? not me | ||
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sasal
Germany74 Posts
@stalker: Yeah its your opinion. I can respect it and also understand it to a certain point. But what is customary has just great influence and is a crucial point. Since humans are no collective beeings like the Zerg or Borg and you dont know what exacly is going on in the head of the other one, the communities and socities are based on common behavior patterns and etiquettes with which people manage to live together and interpret the behavior of others. If people are used to that it is common to say gg at the end to show respect and give a positive feedback about the game and experienced that the exceptions in the past were mostly people who went mad or hated them for their victory they will interpret the behaviour of unknown people in future based on all this background. The same thing for example when I dont mind to say good morning after I woke up because personally for me it is nothing special and a empty phrase. But when I visit somebody in a community where it is normal and I would just go in the kitchen without minding the others on my way they would also think whats wrong with this guy. Thats all about manners. So if people know Nony and know he doesnt say gg to anybody in this situations they maybe just begin to dont care anymore. Atleast I would do from now on. But if they dont and are used to that it is part of the Starcraft etiquette they will take it more as disrespect or hating. | ||
Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
Edit: That being said, I understand where Nony's coming from. The only issue for me is that saying 'gg' is part of our TSL rules so perhaps it would have been better to say it. | ||
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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