On April 03 2009 18:21 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: PR coming this weekend!
time is short, brahh
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captainwafflos
United States212 Posts
On April 03 2009 18:21 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: PR coming this weekend! time is short, brahh | ||
writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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captainwafflos
United States212 Posts
i think the difference is that he beat jangbi in the finals, who might not be considered to be in his top form right now. that said, i'd still put lux above bisu in the next pr based on performance alone. | ||
Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
On April 06 2009 11:00 writer22816 wrote: Is it just me or is it that out of all the OSL and MSL winners, Luxury just seems to be at a notch lower? To me he seems to be the only player who's won a league and yet still wouldn't stand a chance against a lot of the stronger players. On April 06 2009 05:47 Atrioc wrote: Of the 20 MSL's ever played, only 7 of them do not have a bonjwa (Boxer/Oov/Nada/Savior) appearance in the finals. + Show Spoiler [If Bisu/Jaedong] + Of those 7, six of those finals contained either Bisu or Jaedong. If you count Bisu/Jaedong together as a two-person Bonjwa because of their high level of dominance over the scene, then Jangbi vs, Luxury is the only MSL ever in which a dominant player did not appear in the MSL finals | ||
De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On April 06 2009 11:00 writer22816 wrote: Is it just me or is it that out of all the OSL and MSL winners, Luxury just seems to be at a notch lower? To me he seems to be the only player who's won a league and yet still wouldn't stand a chance against a lot of the stronger players. Well, Luxury did have really, really good maps for zvp in the finals. Neo Harmony twice wtf? | ||
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Luxury should be # 2 his performance in the past 2 months has been greater then Fantasy . Even if fantasy eliminated him in the OSL Ro8 2 - 1 series , at that time Luxury was practising for MSL and WL also . Fantasy was obviously practising for WL too , but in the end Luxury eliminated SKT from the playoffs by beating him and Best and made their recent record vs each other 2 - 2 . Luxury played a really solid final against JangBi and thats why he won . I think if Luxury plays Fantasy next time he will squash him , because he will be prepared better against Fantasy's builds compared to the Ro8's games . | ||
Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
On April 06 2009 18:47 raga4ka wrote: You can't say that Luxury is the underdog against Bisu or Flash unless they fight it out in the future . Luxury should be # 2 his performance in the past 2 months has been greater then Fantasy . Even if fantasy eliminated him in the OSL Ro8 2 - 1 series , at that time Luxury was practising for MSL and WL also . Fantasy was obviously practising for WL too , but in the end Luxury eliminated SKT from the playoffs by beating him and Best and made their recent record vs each other 2 - 2 . Luxury played a really solid final against JangBi and thats why he won . I think if Luxury plays Fantasy next time he will squash him , because he will be prepared better against Fantasy's builds compared to the Ro8's games . If we take into consideration that Lux played well in the last three months,he can be no2. If we take into consideration only this month,than Fantasy should be above Lux,because he played godly starcraft. | ||
stroggos
New Zealand1543 Posts
Luxury would get beaten by Flash and Bisu most of the time, and he would have no chance against Jaedong in a bo5. Imo Luxury should go down to 5th or 6th. jaedong 1st Fantasy 2nd Bisu 3rd Flash 4th Luxury 5th jangbi 6th Stork 7th Leta 8th | ||
Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On April 06 2009 23:04 stroggos wrote: dunno why people think Luxury should be going up to 2nd or 3rd. He didn't play the best sc players to get to the msl finals. He beat Jangbi 3-1 but Jangbi's worst mu is z. Luxury would get beaten by Flash and Bisu most of the time, and he would have no chance against Jaedong in a bo5. Imo Luxury should go down to 5th or 6th. jaedong 1st Fantasy 2nd Bisu 3rd Flash 4th Luxury 5th jangbi 6th Stork 7th Leta 8th go down after an msl win? I don`t think so | ||
verzisor
Romania73 Posts
1. Jaedong 2. Fantasy 3. Bisu 4. Luxury 5. Jangbi 6. FlaSh 7. NaDa 8. Skyhigh 9. By.hero (he deserves it) 10. Stork or Leta Even though FlaSh has the potential to be top3 with Bisu, and JD he is currently under performing. Bisu clearly can't be number 1 since he recently lost to both fanta and JD. However I'd like to say that currently BiSu and JD are monsters and the absolute best match would be a BO5 between the two. | ||
animus123
United States171 Posts
On April 06 2009 23:04 stroggos wrote: dunno why people think Luxury should be going up to 2nd or 3rd. He didn't play the best sc players to get to the msl finals. He beat Jangbi 3-1 but Jangbi's worst mu is z. Luxury would get beaten by Flash and Bisu most of the time, and he would have no chance against Jaedong in a bo5. Imo Luxury should go down to 5th or 6th. jaedong 1st Fantasy 2nd Bisu 3rd Flash 4th Luxury 5th jangbi 6th Stork 7th Leta 8th lol @ flash above Luxury. You know you're a fanboi when..... | ||
AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
On April 06 2009 23:04 stroggos wrote: dunno why people think Luxury should be going up to 2nd or 3rd. He didn't play the best sc players to get to the msl finals. He beat Jangbi 3-1 but Jangbi's worst mu is z. Luxury would get beaten by Flash and Bisu most of the time, and he would have no chance against Jaedong in a bo5. Imo Luxury should go down to 5th or 6th. jaedong 1st Fantasy 2nd Bisu 3rd Flash 4th Luxury 5th jangbi 6th Stork 7th Leta 8th Wow fanboy Why is Fantasy 2nd? Luxury should be in top 3 for Winning MSL even if he is not as strong as others still this is monthly performance rank Bisu should be like 3rd because he was on fire till he lost to fantasy 0-3, and thats like the only real serious loss he had for a while now. Flash should probably be rank 5 | ||
[DUF]MethodMan
Germany1716 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
Fantasy Overall: 9 - 6 Lost to Kal in Winner's League Beat Luxury 2-1 in OSL Beat HoeJJa in Winner's League (Playoffs) Beat Flash in Winner's League (Playoffs) Lost to Luxury in Winner's League (Playoffs) Beat Bisu 3-0 in OSL Lost to Jaedong 2-3 in the OSL (Finals) Luxury Overall: 9 - 6 (9 - 8) Lost to Leta in Winner's League Lost to Fantasy 1-2 in OSL Lost to Nbs in Winner's League Beat ZerO 3-0 in MSL Beat Fantasy in Winner's League (Playoffs) Beat BeSt in Winner's League (Playoffs) Beat JangBi 3-1 in MSL (Finals) Lost to Jaedong in Winner's League (Playoffs) Lost to Leta in Z v T Special Race Battle Lost to Stork in Z v P Special Race Battle Bisu Overall: 8 - 5 (12 - 6) Beat Kal in Winner's League Lost to by.hero in Winner's League Beat BeSt 2-0 in OSL Beat NaDa in Winner's League Beat Mind in Winner's League Beat keke in Winner's League Beat RorO in Winner's League (All Kill) Beat 815 in Winner's League (Playoffs) Lost to HoeJJa in Winner's League (Playoffs) Lost to Fantasy 0-3 in OSL Lost to sAviOr in Z v P Special Race Battle Beat Flash in P v T Special Race Battle Beat NaDa in P v T Special Race Battle Beat Leta in P v T Special Race Battle Beat Hwasin in P v T Special Race Battle (All Kill) Jangbi Overall: 8 - 6 (8 - 7) Lost to HiyA in Winner's League Beat NaDa 3-2 in MSL Beat Really in Winner's League Beat Stork 3-0 in MSL Lost to Luxury 1-3 in MSL(Finals) Lost to July in Z v P Special Race Battle Jaedong Overall: 16-4 Beat Stork 2-1 in OSL Beat Light in Winner's League Beat HoeJJa in Winner's League (Playoffs) Beat fOrGG in Winner's League (Playoffs) Beat Luxury in Winner's League (Playoffs) Beat Flash in Winner's League (Playoffs)(All Kill) Beat by.hero 3-0 in OSL Beat EffOrt in Winner's League (Playoffs) Beat Iris in Winner's League (Playoffs) Beat sAviOr in Winner's League (Playoffs) Lost to sKyHigh in Winner's League (Playoffs) Beat Fantasy 3-2 in OSL (Finals) I think the results pretty clearly point to JD being #1, no one's really debating that one... From there, it's open to debate, but taking the results in context, I think it's: 2. Luxury 3. Fantasy 4. Bisu 5. JangBi but I think 2 - 4 are all completely up for debate. I just think that Bisu's wins aren't terribly impressive and his losses to Fantasy and HoeJJa are so anti-cluch that he doesn't merrit a place above Fantasy or Luxury, who both came up bigger when it mattered. For Lux vs. Fantasy, I could understand Fantasy being #2 for posting the same record vs. harder competition, but a championship's a championship so, meh, I think he should be 2 but my heart wouldn't be broken seeing Fantasy at 2. RE: Lux's ZvP: Luxury's ZvP is currently elo #3 after July and Jaedong with career 58.82% ZvP win rate. You don't have to like the way he plays the matchup, but there's no questioning that it gets the job done. sKyHigh was 5-0 in Winner's League since last PR and carried his team to a championship. Regardless of how the games played out, reverse All-Killing for the championship is pretty damn noteworthy and I think he should be #6 for this. + Show Spoiler + And for what it's worth he beat Rage in GOM too =p | ||
LxRogue
United States1415 Posts
Flash? He has done nothing, he should either stay at 5 or drop to 6. Fantasy? He played some great games, but i don't think he should just shoot to #2 given his somewhat inconsistent play. My rank would be: 1. Jaedong 2. Luxury 3. Bisu 4. Fantasy 5. Jangbi 6. Flash 7. Stork 8. By.Hero 9. Leta 10. Skyhigh Bisu/Fantasy placement is tough, and could go the other way. Spot 9 and 10 are also hard to fill. | ||
latent
United States428 Posts
On April 06 2009 23:53 verzisor wrote: Common people... luxury doesn't have a brilliant ZvP and his win of MSL wasn't something brilliant. Therefore I think the rank should be like this: 1. Jaedong 2. Fantasy 3. Bisu 4. Luxury 5. Jangbi 6. FlaSh 7. NaDa 8. Skyhigh 9. By.hero (he deserves it) 10. Stork or Leta Even though FlaSh has the potential to be top3 with Bisu, and JD he is currently under performing. Bisu clearly can't be number 1 since he recently lost to both fanta and JD. However I'd like to say that currently BiSu and JD are monsters and the absolute best match would be a BO5 between the two. I think this makes the most sense. In fact it's darn near perfect. Didn't Bisu completely destroy Luxury during his game with him in the OSL? Besides, if you had to choose a player to win against someone else in a Bo5, would you *really* choose Luxury over Bisu? Really??? My other alternative power ranking goes something like this: 1. Bisu 2. Bisu 3. Bisu 4. ... ah screw it | ||
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