EPTOn April 06 2009 01:44 fanatacist wrote:
Bisu, the same one that stood toe-to-toe with Jaedong? Please.
Bisu, the same one that stood toe-to-toe with Jaedong? Please.
Yes. I don't think jaedong has that much better zvp than lux.
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Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
Yes. I don't think jaedong has that much better zvp than lux. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
EDIT; On April 06 2009 01:50 Magic84 wrote: Yes. I don't think jaedong has that much better zvp than lux. Really? I completely disagree, the finals vs. Jangbi weren't really a test of ZvP prowess, what indicators are you going by? Although it could be just a difference of opinion, I honestly doubt it. Results-wise, Lux has done more than Bisu this month, no one can doubt that. But Bisu isn't far off. | ||
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JohnBall
Brazil1272 Posts
1- Jaedong 2- Luxury 3- Fantasy 4- Bisu 5- Jangbi 6- by.hero 7- Stork From there on I it starts to get difficult to rank. Maybe we could see Flash, July and Leta. I think no other protoss dragon deserves the spot and there is no other zerg powerhouse doing so well either. The only terran that would deserve to be top 10, perhaps in place of July or Leta, is Hwasin. These are my predictions  . Trying to predict PR is quite fun. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On April 06 2009 02:17 JohnBall wrote: Here is how it should be (in my opinion) 1- Jaedong 2- Luxury 3- Fantasy 4- Bisu 5- Jangbi 6- by.hero 7- Stork From there on I it starts to get difficult to rank. Maybe we could see Flash, July and Leta. I think no other protoss dragon deserves the spot and there is no other zerg powerhouse doing so well either. The only terran that would deserve to be top 10, perhaps in place of July or Leta, is Hwasin. These are my predictions . Trying to predict PR is quite fun.No skyhigh ): | ||
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JohnBall
Brazil1272 Posts
He surely is a rising star, tough. I am hoping that he does well on the next season individual leagues. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 06 2009 01:50 Magic84 wrote: Yes. I don't think jaedong has that much better zvp than lux. Lux is sneaky, has some good all-in builds and decent play overall etc but in the lategame you can clearly see how much better jaedong is at zvp. | ||
Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On April 06 2009 03:56 StylishVODs wrote: Lux is sneaky, has some good all-in builds and decent play overall etc but in the lategame you can clearly see how much better jaedong is at zvp. yep, JD clearly has a better ZvP than Lux. | ||
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verzisor
Romania73 Posts
Lux still has many problems and his victory over Jangbi wasn't impressive... and sorry to say but Lux's ZvP is weaker than JD's; so noway he can beat BiSu when JD barely did. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 06 2009 04:51 Shikyo wrote: Luxury's ZvP is amazing. yeah he's really good. Its one of the best zvp out there. But jaedong.... | ||
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Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
On April 06 2009 04:54 StylishVODs wrote: yeah he's really good. Its one of the best zvp out there. But jaedong.... I don't know why people consider Lux's P v Z outstanding. He is the most all-inish zerg ever. He can't win a macro match against a protoss. He wins most of his matches with all-in hydra's,or ling runby's,or 5pools,or failed all-ins by other players. He has psoitive record against Bisu because he 5pooled him two times and outplayed Bisu once,when he was in shitty form. But when they met on Destination in the PL,he couldn't even attack any of Bisu's bases. He was that dominated in that match. His Z v T and Z v Z are fucking briliant,but his P v Z is nothing special. He is like the most all-inish Zerg ever. His P v Z cannot even be compared to Jaedong's. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
Being able to secure a win is what matters, even if your style is aggressive. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On April 06 2009 05:18 Darth Peter wrote: I don't know why people consider Lux's P v Z outstanding. He is the most all-inish zerg ever. He can't win a macro match against a protoss. He wins most of his matches with all-in hydra's,or ling runby's,or 5pools,or failed all-ins by other players. He has psoitive record against Bisu because he 5pooled him two times and outplayed Bisu once,when he was in shitty form. But when they met on Destination in the PL,he couldn't even attack any of Bisu's bases. He was that dominated in that match. His Z v T and Z v Z are fucking briliant,but his P v Z is nothing special. He is like the most all-inish Zerg ever. His P v Z cannot even be compared to Jaedong's. Obviously no one would ever ever go for rush builds in a Bo5, right?! Now if you said "Lux can't beat Bisu in a Bo5 if he played standard" then I would agree with you, but then everyone plays to their strengths like Fantasy, so just by playing nonstandard doesn't make his ZvP any worse. | ||
disciple
9071 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
There are lots of other gamers better than him at other styles but you can't hold it against him. | ||
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AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 06 2009 05:18 Darth Peter wrote: I don't know why people consider Lux's P v Z outstanding. He is the most all-inish zerg ever. He can't win a macro match against a protoss. He wins most of his matches with all-in hydra's,or ling runby's,or 5pools,or failed all-ins by other players. He has psoitive record against Bisu because he 5pooled him two times and outplayed Bisu once,when he was in shitty form. But when they met on Destination in the PL,he couldn't even attack any of Bisu's bases. He was that dominated in that match. His Z v T and Z v Z are fucking briliant,but his P v Z is nothing special. He is like the most all-inish Zerg ever. His P v Z cannot even be compared to Jaedong's. His ZvP macro has impressed me the most out of all the Zergs except possibly July :/ | ||
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deathgodtoss
Korea (North)189 Posts
jaedong, lux, fantasy, jangbi bisu, byhero and nada~ the rest, whatever | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On April 06 2009 04:15 verzisor wrote: LOL at Lux above BiSu... fanta that is acceptable; but LUX???!! Lux still has many problems and his victory over Jangbi wasn't impressive... and sorry to say but Lux's ZvP is weaker than JD's; so noway he can beat BiSu when JD barely did. yeah, Lux has a weaker ZvP than JD, and JD barely defeat Bisu, but that certainly doesnt mean that Lux cannot defeat Bisu  | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On April 06 2009 04:15 verzisor wrote: LOL at Lux above BiSu... fanta that is acceptable; but LUX???!! Lux still has many problems and his victory over Jangbi wasn't impressive... and sorry to say but Lux's ZvP is weaker than JD's; so noway he can beat BiSu when JD barely did. A gold medal is better than an 0-3 semis stomping. Everyone knows that only JD, Flash, and maybe a couple up-and-comers like by.hero and Leta can play on the same level as Bisu, but it means jack all if Bisu isn't playing at his usual top form. Bisu has been getting trashed by his former 'bonjwa' level match up in Zerg, is getting wrecked 0-3 in PvT when titles are on the line, and only has his PvP showings lately to show for his trouble. He's capable of being on top of everyone in the PR, but this month? After getting trashed 0-3, while Lux goes to dominate an MSL final and come up with the gold? Bisu's lucky if he gets fourth place right now. | ||
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