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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
I wouldn't be shocked to see Pusan, Jaedong, Free or Much appear in the list. See Bisu/Anytime/Nada/GoRush disappear oh yeah, and JJu Bisu might stay after all, seeing as beating anytime should give him some redemption. also, we'll see what happens in the pl finals along with his MSL. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
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Ai_y0u
United States4 Posts
On November 26 2006 10:23 Jathin wrote: I'm afraid of the horseshit results we'll get from something like this. Who is the current hottest player? 1. Boxer -- 80% 2. Iloveoov - 15% 3. Reach 5% Fact of the matter is a lot of people here are fanboi's who don't actually think about who's better and who's not, they just cheer for their favorite player -- and that's perfectly OK. Stuff like that keeps the game going in all reality. But for a power ranking I'm afraid we'll be seeing the same results over and over and over again because people will continually vote for their favorite player and not who's best read what its said for Ra and Jju "I hate Ra. He gives Protoss players everywhere a bad name. But damn it, he keeps winning. So I’m throwing him a bone and giving him my coveted #9 spot, thus allowing him to boast that “One person is ranked lower than me!” that's the explanation of an imbecile, I don't care about what the idiot who wrote the ranking says, but just look what you are saying to "defend" the Power Rank opinion its horseshit as you just said, its more based on likes and dislikes, | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 23 2006 18:32 Ai_y0u wrote: Well, although i dont agree with etter's opinion on these players, i like the featureread what its said for Ra and Jju "I hate Ra. He gives Protoss players everywhere a bad name. But damn it, he keeps winning. So I’m throwing him a bone and giving him my coveted #9 spot, thus allowing him to boast that “One person is ranked lower than me!” that's the explanation of an imbecile, I don't care about what the idiot who wrote the ranking says, but just look what you are saying to "defend" the Power Rank opinion its horseshit as you just said, its more based on likes and dislikes, The ranking itself gives controversy and creates discussion - certainly not a bad thing On December 23 2006 08:10 Myxomatosis wrote: neither would i, bisu might stay, he does have alot of fanboyism pointsHaha AnyTime is 0-3, out of the top 5 if not the list IMO. I wouldn't be shocked to see Pusan, Jaedong, Free or Much appear in the list. See Bisu/Anytime/Nada/GoRush disappear | ||
ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
On December 23 2006 18:32 Ai_y0u wrote: read what its said for Ra and Jju "I hate Ra. He gives Protoss players everywhere a bad name. But damn it, he keeps winning. So I’m throwing him a bone and giving him my coveted #9 spot, thus allowing him to boast that “One person is ranked lower than me!” that's the explanation of an imbecile, I don't care about what the idiot who wrote the ranking says, but just look what you are saying to "defend" the Power Rank opinion its horseshit as you just said, its more based on likes and dislikes, Debate as much as you like, but call the man an idiot and consider yourself ban bait. There is no reason to make this personal, so stop being a prick. You guys should stop being so effected by the flavour of the month. + Show Spoiler + Bisu just won the Ace match against Anytime, which is an incredible one game acheivement considering how deep in the PL the match was. Saying Bisu doesn't deserve to be on the list at all is pretty silly IMO. You can't just take a guy off the list if he gets eliminated from a tournament. You're crazy if you think either Anytime or Nada are going anywhere off the list any time soon. Now dropping...that's a different thing all together.  But that won't effect Anytime of course, because he's going to win the rest of his games and move on in OSL.  | ||
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Red_Dragon
Croatia2862 Posts
1. Savior - despite his few loses he is still in the run for both leagues. 2. Midas - really great shape, beating Savior. 3. AnyTime - not sure about this one, he loses much now, and he lost two games in proleague. 4. NaDa - same like AnyTime, slump. 5. Much - wow, this dude is owning it up hardly, there is no need for explanation. 6. Light - this is one crazy player, I am watching over him. 7. Bisu - he is performing fairly good, there is no need to remove him from list. 8. Ra - this is hard one, KTF doesn`t have more games in proleague, so Ra`s performance can be only measured in MSL. Despite his win vs Bisu I would not put him above Bisu for now. 9. Jeadong - mostly because of proleague record 10. Free - nice performance from free lately. People need to understand that this list is based on current shape. I tried to rank players according to that rule. Still, there would be interesting to see how will oov, July and Casy perform in next their next games in osl. Those rankings can change so fast. I think i could easily kick Ra from the list simply because he doesn`t have much games played. | ||
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
On December 25 2006 03:08 Red_Dragon wrote: Ok, this is my list: 1. Savior - despite his few loses he is still in the run for both leagues. 2. Midas - really great shape, beating Savior. 3. AnyTime - not sure about this one, he loses much now, and he lost two games in proleague. 4. NaDa - same like AnyTime, slump. 5. Much - wow, this dude is owning it up hardly, there is no need for explanation. 6. Light - this is one crazy player, I am watching over him. 7. Bisu - he is performing fairly good, there is no need to remove him from list. 8. Ra - this is hard one, KTF doesn`t have more games in proleague, so Ra`s performance can be only measured in MSL. Despite his win vs Bisu I would not put him above Bisu for now. 9. Jeadong - mostly because of proleague record 10. Free - nice performance from free lately. People need to understand that this list is based on current shape. I tried to rank players according to that rule. Still, there would be interesting to see how will oov, July and Casy perform in next their next games in osl. Those rankings can change so fast. I think i could easily kick Ra from the list simply because he doesn`t have much games played. Eh, there is a lot I don't like about your list. Top 2 spots are fine. It should be those two players, maybe not in that order, but those 2 for sure. Anytime at 3? Are you kidding me? He lost to Pusan and Bisu (costing Lecaf the PL), and got trounced by fucking firebathero (due to shitty reaver harass, not the map). Anytime should be on the lower half of the list, if even on it at all (seeing as this is a list of CURRENT scariness and doesn't take prior performance into account like KeSPA) NaDa at 4? Uh, no way. Don't get me wrong, NaDa is my all time favorite player, but losing to OOv, Mingu, POKJU???, savior etc doesn't qualify you for the #4 spot. NaDa is suffering from the curse right now and probably won't be on the next feature. Much - Yeah he's owning it up, but he hasn't showed THAT much yet, lets wait until next week after he beats nada. Then maybe the 5 spot is justified. Beating dongrae doesn't get you much respect. Light - Light fighting!!! he should be around the 5~6 range 7 - Bisu, ehh idk about this one, losing to rA means a lot IMO. But he has been doing well in the PL and trashed Iris, so depending on his performance against cj we could see him around. 8 - rA, hard to say on this one. I would keep him in there just because he beat bisu 9. Jaedong - He belongs in here for sure, idk where though, probably higher than Bisu. 10. Free - Yeah he belongs in here too, lower the bisu ATM and higher than ra. People who I think might be qualified for the list as well: GGPlay (still), Sea, Casy?, OOv?, | ||
jkillashark
United States5262 Posts
If NaDa went 1-5 in the past month and he only drops to 4th place that's a load of ddong for some lesser known pro like Much who goes maybe 4-1 in the month. I think just because a player makes it on Etter's Power Rankings one month doesn't mean that player is going to be given leniency the next month on Etter's Rankings. In my humble opinion, the rankings should have a clean slate every time they are done. A lot of people are saying Anytime! Anytime! I'm not quite sure how HOT Anytime is. He lost to FireBatHero. He lost proleague games. Is that a top 10 player for the month? I doubt it. I think Midas should be number 1. | ||
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DJEtterStyle
United States2766 Posts
On December 25 2006 17:09 jkillashark wrote: Remember these rankings are for players who were HOT in the past few weeks. That's not entirely true. I factor in the past, say, couple months. I have a "short memory" in terms of performances--beating Savior a month ago isn't going to mean a thing if you just got 0-2ed by Doggi--but I'm not just looking at who's 4-1 or 5-1 or 0-4 in the past month; I'm looking at a) their records b) the matchup c) their opponents d) the maps e) the stakes f) the actual game (cheese, straight-up, bad breaks, etc) g) the league... It's a complicated system, but I try to avoid jumping on the slump bandwagon whenever possible. For example, if Casy won the next OSL in a brilliant series of TvT and TvZ matchups, I wouldn't call him "slumped"--or ding him too much on the list--just because he lost a few TvPs in the Proleague in the subsequent weeks. It looks bad, to be sure, but it's not indicative of him being out of form. It's when players start losing on reasonable maps in their best matchups that I really take notice. Along the same vein, Yellow[Arnc] getting and winning a ton of ZvTs in a row isn't going to make me forget his laughable other matchups (ok, he's improved a little as of late, but work with the example). I've got a pretty good idea what the next list is going to be, and I'm counting on the next week of matches to cement it into its final form. I'll do my best to get it up promptly so that everyone can get back to calling me a biased moron--tools.  | ||
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jkillashark
United States5262 Posts
Can't wait until I see Etter's next hot list. =D | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 22 2006 01:18 DJEtterStyle wrote: To clarify: this is not a rehash of the KeSPA rankings. This is not a lifetime achievement award. This list consists entirely of my picks of who is hot right now. Any player who loses a big game to an amateur opponent or attempts some particularly retarded cheese can look forward to dropping off the list as quickly as he arrived. ?? | ||
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DJEtterStyle
United States2766 Posts
Yeah, and who's hot right now doesn't mean "who's performed well in the past four weeks." There's more to how hot someone is at this very second than such a small sample size. You have to look a little deeper. Added: I know the whole thing sounds a bit contradictory, but I assure you it's not. It's just that the small number of games a player plays in a month can't dictate massive shifts without the list becoming a huge joke. Random User: "Wait, you're telling me that Savior, your #1 player last month, is now off the list because he went 3-4 (made-up statistic) this past month? But he's still in both Starleagues and hasn't lost a Proleague match in seven years." Me: "Well, obviously he's not hot right now." It just wouldn't work. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Pressure
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 26 2006 10:22 DJEtterStyle wrote: i trust you etter!Yeah, and who's hot right now doesn't mean "who's performed well in the past four weeks." There's more to how hot someone is at this very second than such a small sample size. You have to look a little deeper. Added: I know the whole thing sounds a bit contradictory, but I assure you it's not. It's just that the small number of games a player plays in a month can't dictate massive shifts without the list becoming a huge joke. Random User: "Wait, you're telling me that Savior, your #1 player last month, is now off the list because he went 3-4 (made-up statistic) this past month? But he's still in both Starleagues and hasn't lost a Proleague match in seven years." Me: "Well, obviously he's not hot right now." It just wouldn't work. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12816 Posts
I haven't seen any changes for a month! SC can't be THAT static! :p | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
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sephiroth85
New Zealand87 Posts
Y? y didn u jus say, 'oh some people in star leagues dat i like an hate'?? the only thin i can agree on here is savior, bisu an midas.. apart from that, dis is jus ur personal feeling towards pro gamers.. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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