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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
October 18 2013 10:19 GMT
#1
Best patch ever. Seeing bitter people or still in disbelief makes it all the better.
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Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
October 18 2013 10:45 GMT
#2
Really hard to say before i played a few dozen games and watch some pro-play. At least it keeps the meta evolving and interesting.
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
October 18 2013 10:49 GMT
#3
I like it. Love big patches making lots of changes!
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Zeburial
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden1126 Posts
October 18 2013 11:05 GMT
#4
no opinion so far, but jesus..... what a bunch of changes.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
October 18 2013 12:52 GMT
#5
I don't know what's going to happen but I like it!
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losnappas
Profile Joined April 2012
Korea (South)6 Posts
October 18 2013 13:00 GMT
#6
Dota polls?

This site has gone to ruins.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 13:22:19
October 18 2013 13:21 GMT
#7
On October 18 2013 22:00 losnappas wrote:
Dota polls?

This site has gone to ruins.

So bitter
AdministratorBreak the chains
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
October 18 2013 13:41 GMT
#8
On October 18 2013 22:00 losnappas wrote:
Dota polls?

This site has gone to ruins.

I actually laughed when I realized 1/3 of your posts are angry posts about dota polls. At least make them about the game, not polls.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
October 18 2013 13:42 GMT
#9
On October 18 2013 22:41 sekritzzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 22:00 losnappas wrote:
Dota polls?

This site has gone to ruins.

I actually laughed when I realized 1/3 of your posts are angry posts about dota polls. At least make them about the game, not polls.

On May 04 2013 02:11 losnappas wrote:
Where's the "I don't give a fuck about no moba" option? Please don't post non-starcraft polls, ty

LOL
what do you think TL are gonna do when they pick up a new game?
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Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
October 18 2013 13:44 GMT
#10
I think there should be one SC2 poll and one dota 2 poll
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
October 18 2013 13:48 GMT
#11
Will have to see the changes in action in order to form a proper opinion. Voted yes because CHANGES!
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Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
October 18 2013 13:53 GMT
#12
On October 18 2013 22:00 losnappas wrote:
Dota polls?

This site has gone to ruins.


Says the guy with six posts.
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shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
October 18 2013 15:19 GMT
#13
On October 18 2013 22:41 sekritzzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 22:00 losnappas wrote:
Dota polls?

This site has gone to ruins.

I actually laughed when I realized 1/3 of your posts are angry posts about dota polls. At least make them about the game, not polls.


thats a LOT of posts.
wait..
mTwRINE
Profile Joined February 2006
Germany318 Posts
October 18 2013 16:01 GMT
#14
Voted Yes because interesting times. Part of being a proteam is to adapt and new meta means new chances. Will be good for viewers/pubs and thats more important than having the same top6 teams stomp everyone 12 month in a row.
PerryHooter
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden268 Posts
October 18 2013 16:10 GMT
#15
I voted "liking it" because my impression is that they stay true to the philosophy of "embracing the extremes", i.e. allowing heroes to be overpowered in their own certain way, without making them overpowered overall. The blood seeker change is a prime example. The opposite would be streamlining everything which is my impression of the LoL/HoN balance/design philosophy.
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xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
October 18 2013 16:13 GMT
#16
checkmate statusquoist

where is your iloveoov now?

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Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
October 18 2013 16:29 GMT
#17
Dota poll -.-
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 17:17:58
October 18 2013 16:36 GMT
#18
On October 19 2013 01:29 Swiv wrote:
Dota poll -.-

SC elitism on a Dota/SC site -.-
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
October 18 2013 16:51 GMT
#19
On October 19 2013 01:36 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 01:29 Swiv wrote:
Dota poll -.-

SC elitism on a Dota/Sc2 site -.-

reminds me of bw elitism against sc2
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BassoPeruna
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland9 Posts
October 18 2013 21:23 GMT
#20
DotA poll makes me sad.
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 22:54:54
October 18 2013 22:54 GMT
#21
Really no clue, looking forward to see how it'll shape the meta. Gotta love the balls needed for IF make such changes
no dude, the question
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
October 18 2013 23:12 GMT
#22
Why are the only sad about dota poll guys single digit posts-counters?
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
October 19 2013 00:28 GMT
#23
I love the drastic changes - curious to see how the meta would shift.

But in all honesty, it's early to say if the shift would make the game better or worse. For now I just loved that there were big changes, time will tell. One thing is sure: changes like these draw attention. I've almost not touched dota since TI3, now my curiosity is bringing me back again immediately.
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shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
October 19 2013 01:30 GMT
#24
Well, on one side I'm a bit weary because they're so damn huge and they bring such a big change to the game I've grown so familiar with.

On the other side, I'm excited about the new and refreshing meta that's bound to arise from this. There were more massive changes than this in earlier versions and I'm sure icefrog has given some though into what is best for the game.

Can't really comment more until I've seen/played some games on the patch. (I've barely touched doto since august since I'm rally busy with school but I'm sure that it's going to be super refreshing when I come back to playing more heavily in the winter)

also, inb4 "omg this moba on SC site!!" comments. Just relax! One love!
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
Korhal SayGen
Profile Joined September 2013
United States14 Posts
October 19 2013 04:07 GMT
#25
DotA poll -_-
I remember when TL.net was about SC

Shame that MOBA has a popularity that is growing.

Hopefully the future will hold more for traditional RTS games and less team RPG games.
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tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
October 19 2013 05:12 GMT
#26
On October 19 2013 08:12 See.Blue wrote:
Why are the only sad about dota poll guys single digit posts-counters?


Except the one with 3440 posts....
Cam Connor
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada786 Posts
October 19 2013 05:46 GMT
#27
On October 19 2013 01:29 Swiv wrote:
Dota poll -.-

On October 19 2013 06:23 BassoPeruna wrote:
DotA poll makes me sad.

calm down you greasy nerds
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
October 19 2013 09:07 GMT
#28
Not a fan of the random Roshan, less RNG please.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 19 2013 13:20 GMT
#29
On October 19 2013 01:51 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 01:36 Zealously wrote:
On October 19 2013 01:29 Swiv wrote:
Dota poll -.-

SC elitism on a Dota/Sc2 site -.-

reminds me of bw elitism against sc2

it's pretty sweet and delicious for a Dota 2 / Bw fan like me

In the woods, there lurks..
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
October 19 2013 14:47 GMT
#30
Dota poll I guess undecided since I don't play it.
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SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
October 19 2013 15:28 GMT
#31
With some luck trilanes are gone which is good because so many heroes aren't seeing play just because they aren't that good in a trilane scenario while still being very interesting can be easily laned in a 2v2 scenario. I hope this will open up the hero pool quite a bit, so I have a good impression of the patch just with this.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
October 19 2013 15:49 GMT
#32
On October 19 2013 23:47 Weavel wrote:
Dota poll I guess undecided since I don't play it.

You could always not vote...
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Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
October 19 2013 15:49 GMT
#33
I don't like the huge nerf to jungle, though there are gems here and there like the buyback and lothar change.

BTW, I'd love more BW/Dota 2 polls instead of never-ending stream of SC2 polls. I was even thinking about removing the poll section entirely
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
October 19 2013 16:03 GMT
#34
I have no idea lol I didn't understand anything they did to be honest lol
phantomlancer23
Profile Joined May 2013
730 Posts
October 19 2013 18:33 GMT
#35
Please icefrog stop patching the biggest e-sport on the planet like crazy and like there is no tomorrow its not a wc3 fun mode any more.In this pace you ll harm it in the long run.


PS.HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!!!!
Axonn
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia287 Posts
October 19 2013 18:56 GMT
#36
+1 for dota poll. TeamLiquid is big name in Dota 2 community, 0 reasons not to have a dota 2 poll here or there.
On topic:
Really like these big patches where alot is changed. Makes teams work on adaptability.
Dreamsmasher2
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada38 Posts
October 19 2013 19:37 GMT
#37
On October 20 2013 03:33 phantomlancer23 wrote:
Please icefrog stop patching the biggest e-sport on the planet like crazy and like there is no tomorrow its not a wc3 fun mode any more.In this pace you ll harm it in the long run.


PS.HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!!!!


Icefrog is patching LoL?
PhoenixLight
Profile Joined November 2011
43 Posts
October 20 2013 00:51 GMT
#38
This patch shows icefrog has confidence in his game design and doesn't give a shit about changing fundamental parts of the game. Wish blizzard would also grow a pair.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
October 20 2013 04:14 GMT
#39
Absolutely no clue. We'll have to see. I'm hopeful, but a lot of my favorite heroes did get nerfed.
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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-20 06:18:35
October 20 2013 06:12 GMT
#40
I played BW for 10 years and had a blast on WGT/PGT/ICCup etc. I also played sc2 for 2 years but dota 2 has challenged me and entertained me more than sc2 ever did. Stop thinking your game is somehow a godsend. People like different games and sc2 surely isn't a top game these days for good reasons.

On topic: The only thing that worries me a little is how jungling will work with the swapped camps. I like the fact that it forces jungle heroes to be closer to the lane and hence promotes them ganking (which pub heroes are worthless at). But I am worried that lane control will get even worse in pubs. Pro's will obviously work around it by tripple stacking or double cammp pulling so I like it for the pro scene. I can just imagine like a jungle skeleton king or some such garbage just clearing all the pull camps for solo xp. But I guess it's fair for off lane heroes to atleast be able to get xp.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
October 20 2013 09:01 GMT
#41
On October 18 2013 22:00 losnappas wrote:
Dota polls?

This site has gone to ruins.


i just vote rnd shit on dota polls because no one cares them ...
plz guys stay to sc2 because all dota polls are ruined anyways xD
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Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-20 13:55:06
October 20 2013 13:54 GMT
#42
On October 20 2013 18:01 Drake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 22:00 losnappas wrote:
Dota polls?

This site has gone to ruins.


i just vote rnd shit on dota polls because no one cares them ...
plz guys stay to sc2 because all dota polls are ruined anyways xD


HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE! A Dota poll!? Pack your bags, everyone! A couple of yes / no / maybe clickable links not related to SC now occupy 0.5% of the front page of TeamLiquid! This site is forever ruined in my eyes. The fucking disgrace. ./s
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Snugles
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom35 Posts
October 20 2013 19:28 GMT
#43
I am far to bad to know what this patch will do but the changes are looking to make the game more aggressive which could be fun. However I'm one of the few people who likes to watch a 90 minute farm fest with about two kills so I have no idea whether I will like it. Looking forward to offlane buffs regardless.
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Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
October 21 2013 01:06 GMT
#44
On October 19 2013 06:23 BassoPeruna wrote:
DotA poll makes me sad.

I'm just wondering how it showed up when I explicitly filtered out all content related to that game.
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
October 21 2013 02:19 GMT
#45
I like every change except for the Roshan one. It makes the game a little bit too luck-based. Maybe you lost a teamfight only to have Rosh spawn instantly afterwards which could easily win the game. Or you win a teamfight only to find that Rosh isn't back up, so you can't really capitalize on your advantage, giving the enemy team another chance to come back. I feel that ultimately it will just make teams more passive as nobody is going to want to take a fight until Roshan respawns anyway.

And to the people complaining about Dota polls. How long have you been on this site? Because if you came in with SC2 then you're being hypocritical as fuck.
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TangyOrange
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore87 Posts
October 21 2013 04:38 GMT
#46
Dota polls :D
Cam Connor
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada786 Posts
October 21 2013 05:45 GMT
#47
On October 21 2013 10:06 Gary Oak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 06:23 BassoPeruna wrote:
DotA poll makes me sad.

I'm just wondering how it showed up when I explicitly filtered out all content related to that game.

you must be from quebec
calm down u fuck you're giving canada a bad name

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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
October 21 2013 10:42 GMT
#48
Its just a small and silly thing but I can sympathize with the sc2 fans. I remember when the BW features were taken away one by one.
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GraFx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States429 Posts
October 21 2013 14:01 GMT
#49
Some changes I like, some I don't, some I feel need to be played/tested before fully knowing.

Hermanoid
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden213 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 14:28:59
October 21 2013 14:22 GMT
#50
I would be all for this patch if it wasn't for the buyback change. Dual-layered fights was never detrimental to the intricacy of this game. The long fights we used to see around the rosh pit is now gone, because you'll never ever in a million years want to buyback your carry unless he's sixsloted. This effectively exterminates the big two-round fights.

Edit: and also to state the obvious, October-fools Bloodseeker and Broodmother both suck, Volvo fix. I have no idea wth they are thinking with that.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 15:05:43
October 21 2013 15:03 GMT
#51
On October 18 2013 22:41 sekritzzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 22:00 losnappas wrote:
Dota polls?

This site has gone to ruins.

I actually laughed when I realized 1/3 of your posts are angry posts about dota polls. At least make them about the game, not polls.


Not going to lie. That's pretty pathetic. Something tells me it's a smurf account.

On October 21 2013 10:06 Gary Oak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 06:23 BassoPeruna wrote:
DotA poll makes me sad.

I'm just wondering how it showed up when I explicitly filtered out all content related to that game.


Do me a favor and shut the hell up. K thx. Seriously, all of you deserved to be slapped around with a tuna fish. Reading all these comments is hilarious and man do we ever get a lot of polls these days. I should be checking them more regularly for the laughs.
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
October 21 2013 15:09 GMT
#52
Wait- are there games, which are not made by blizzard? :O
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Homework
Profile Joined December 2010
United States283 Posts
October 21 2013 15:13 GMT
#53
I voted good, because at least Icefrog / Valve is willing to change things up like this. It seems like some developers recently have been prone to fall into "status quo"
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
October 21 2013 20:05 GMT
#54
I haven't played it so I can't really judge it. But it changed lots of shit, so I consider it good by default just because watching it was getting a little stale for me.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 22 2013 09:08 GMT
#55
as a brood player, 10/10 icefrog is the best

sorry to the sc2 fans who have to see dota stuff i guess.... does seem interesting that sc2 team tags are shown here
:)
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
October 22 2013 14:13 GMT
#56
well I would choose the option: "good, but disagree with a bunch of changes". Its not really disagree, just baffled. Like a huge jungle rework, but not fixing harpy? But I like the general direction of "GO KILL MORE"
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jonhy-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovakia167 Posts
October 22 2013 14:48 GMT
#57
i have to say the patch is really good and i like it good job icefrog everytime first i dislike but it always turn out that its good patch 10/10 keep it up icyy
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blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
October 22 2013 17:13 GMT
#58
night/day 4 minutes only change I dont like.. o.Ô
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iKillStrpprs
Profile Joined February 2013
United States2 Posts
October 22 2013 17:19 GMT
#59
I don't have an opinion because I don't play Dota.
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TaishiCi
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)211 Posts
October 22 2013 21:32 GMT
#60
Honestly I've been enjoying the different crap people try now.
Although, some comps seem like they were random picks.
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wraggy1234
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom135 Posts
October 23 2013 14:26 GMT
#61
isn't there a 'Don't care because i follow Starcraft' button? / a seperate poll for both games
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Babba
Profile Joined February 2011
49 Posts
October 23 2013 14:57 GMT
#62
whats dota?
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 23 2013 16:50 GMT
#63
I like that IceFrog dares to make big changes to the game. Wish more designers would do that
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