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Mindflow
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)320 Posts
March 31 2013 22:40 GMT
#1
About time we get a complete new round of maps.
13JackaL
Profile Joined March 2011
United States577 Posts
March 31 2013 22:43 GMT
#2
I like planet S, it makes for fun TvZs
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Taranok
Profile Joined September 2009
United States33 Posts
March 31 2013 22:44 GMT
#3
planet s is great, no watchtowers
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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
March 31 2013 22:47 GMT
#4
Bel'Shir Vestige probably.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 31 2013 22:50 GMT
#5
Whirlwind easily.
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DeathDyingDoomKiller
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada91 Posts
March 31 2013 23:18 GMT
#6
Neo Planet S is so sick to play on, plus everyone loves snow maps
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Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Mexico674 Posts
March 31 2013 23:37 GMT
#7
Strangely enough, I've been enjoying Star Station the most.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
March 31 2013 23:40 GMT
#8
Whirlwind.

I didn't think I would like it as a Terran player but Ive played a ton of fun games on it. So yea it has my vote.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33426 Posts
March 31 2013 23:45 GMT
#9
I'm very love-hate with four player maps
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PulSe312
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia5 Posts
April 01 2013 00:04 GMT
#10
I love Korhal City because of all the possiblities and its size! (I play zerg)'
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Nikoras
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States115 Posts
April 01 2013 00:53 GMT
#11
As a toss player, fuck planet S, I like holding my third. I've had a lot of good games on whirlwind and bel'shir vestige though.
_SilverSurfer_
Profile Joined October 2012
United States41 Posts
April 01 2013 01:06 GMT
#12
Akilon Wastes for sure. I've seen so many great games played on that map. I love how it's easy to take four bases, but becomes incredibly difficult to hold your 5th and 6th from there.
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reyder
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States71 Posts
April 01 2013 01:20 GMT
#13
I love all the maps except korhal city. The whole 2v2 double main is a little too gimmicky. However definitely a vast improvement overall! Hope they update the maps to keep the ladder as much like the tournament maps as possible.
NGUNS!
ShinigamiFlameHaze
Profile Joined October 2012
United States33 Posts
April 01 2013 01:20 GMT
#14
Neo Planet S is the most enjoyable map for me.
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iViNtaGe
Profile Joined July 2012
United States254 Posts
April 01 2013 01:41 GMT
#15
Planet S is my favorite.

Newkirk is good too.
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MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
April 01 2013 01:42 GMT
#16
Neo Planet S, so simple and compact just love it.
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
April 01 2013 02:08 GMT
#17
Planet S is my favorite map in terms of scenery, but I am a zerg player so I struggle. Whirlwind is my favorite to play on.

I strongly dislike Korhal, Newkirk and Starstation. Also, I struggle at Belshir. Akilon is pretty good to play on but I dislike the design.
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Zrana
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom698 Posts
April 01 2013 02:54 GMT
#18
Wow i clicked neo planet s expecting to be in the minority but apparently not

I couldn't say why exactly but i've had some great games on it. It's probably something to do with circle syndrome and playing zerg(?)
Rorra
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1066 Posts
April 01 2013 03:01 GMT
#19
Bel'Shir, Whirlwind. and Planet S are by far the best maps

Akilon wastes is decent, but I'm surprised at all the votes it got, though i imagine a lot of Protoss players would enjoy that map & they are the majority i suppose.

Newkirk is by far the worst.
Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
April 01 2013 03:53 GMT
#20
Neo Planet S, easily.

And I'm surprised Newkirk Precinct isn't dead last from what I've heard people say about it.
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dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
April 01 2013 05:13 GMT
#21
Akilon Wastes: getting a 3rd and 4th as Protoss becomes really easy
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omisa
Profile Joined January 2011
United States494 Posts
April 01 2013 06:13 GMT
#22
Whirlwind. Although planet s is kinda growing on me...
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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
April 01 2013 06:55 GMT
#23
Planet S feels like a 2 base all in map for protoss, so I am surprised that it has so many votes.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
April 01 2013 07:05 GMT
#24
I love Newkirk Precinct. ex-GSL maps are great too!
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malefikh
Profile Joined June 2012
Spain2 Posts
April 01 2013 07:06 GMT
#25
I hate them all. I want the old mappool back
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
April 01 2013 07:36 GMT
#26
Planet S easily. Then, Whirlwind and Bel'Shir.
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Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
April 01 2013 09:25 GMT
#27
Neo Planet S, as the majority has ruled, for TvZ especially.
jeffvip
Profile Joined June 2011
211 Posts
April 01 2013 11:33 GMT
#28
As a Terran player I cannot believe I actually like Whirlwind a lot.
Marine is Terran strongest unit but it might be Terran's biggest weakness. Bcos of Marine so OP, other Terran unit regrettably have to be weak..
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
April 01 2013 12:37 GMT
#29
They need to get rid of Korhal and Star station next season
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Skytt
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland333 Posts
April 01 2013 13:08 GMT
#30
On April 01 2013 16:06 malefikh wrote:
I hate them all. I want the old mappool back


This is how I feel other than Planet S, that ones enjoyable to play on.
IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
April 01 2013 14:58 GMT
#31
Broke even between Neo Planet S and Whirlwind. But I feel like Planet S is truly well put together, you need to stay spread out if you want too keep your third, and positioning is crucial because of all different paths your enemy can take to your base. Whirlwind is also great but Planet S takes it for me.
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
April 01 2013 15:37 GMT
#32
Love whirlwind but planet is cool too.
Sherlock-Canada
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada269 Posts
April 01 2013 16:15 GMT
#33
Absolutely puzzled by people who voted for Planet S.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
April 01 2013 16:34 GMT
#34
Wow! I don't agree with the votes of this poll at all. Are you guys voting on what you like to play on or what games you have seen the pros play on them that you thought were entertaining? Whirlwind is way too big and neo is kinda silly in it's design to me.

As someone else has said, I much prefer the old mappool. Most of the new HotS map are pretty weird. It's nice with some variance but almost all of the maps feel gimmicky right now and that is just too much.
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sambo400
Profile Joined March 2011
United States378 Posts
April 01 2013 16:40 GMT
#35
I think all these maps are pretty bad. Planet S forces Protoss to 2 base all in, Whirlwind is just too large, Akilon is ok but it seems too easy for Protoss, Bel shir has too many ramps, and the rest are shit for obvious reasons.

Put Bifrost on Ladder.
uh-oh
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Hong Kong135 Posts
April 01 2013 17:51 GMT
#36
Akilon wastes is very enjoyable for me. I like to play a long macro game so the easy 4 bases are great. late game involves maneuvering around 5/6th bases which has a very cool architecture. And i just love coming in from the dead space and sniping bases with void ray carrier, then recall out vs zergs. :D
Spectator wise we've also seen a lot of great games from akilon flats, and I imagine akilon wastes will be no different because it's so friendly for virtually all kinds of playstyles. Air players can abuse the large dead space, deathball players get lot's of space to micro around and a lot of locations to hide pylons and counter attack, mech players can secure and defend 4 bases relatively easily, bio players can deny enemy's 5/6th bases while also defending his own. It's a great map to both watch and play on.
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
April 01 2013 18:17 GMT
#37
As a Protoss player, I'm finding 3rd bases incredibly hard to hold vs. T and Z on Neo Planet S and Star Station. Newkirk Precinct is so hard to play vs good Terrans because of how large the main base is and how much room there is to drop. Korhal City is absolute garbage - everything is in one place to defend and games on it always end up being slightly retarded (Nexus first PvP and the like).

I like Belshir Vestige. Big map, but not too large, a few different attack paths, bases that aren't too hard to hold but still take some effort. Surprisingly I've been playing Whirlwind because the other maps are so bad, and it's okay too. Akilon Wastes is a good map as wel. Those and Daybreak are the only ones I like in the pool right now.



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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
April 01 2013 18:19 GMT
#38
Although it seems like Belshir was designed by a ramp salesman.
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TerranosaurusWrecks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada187 Posts
April 01 2013 20:09 GMT
#39
I really like Bel shir vestige, all my favorite games played were on that map so far, the way expos are placed just make it so much more interesting.
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mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
April 01 2013 20:13 GMT
#40
Planet S: most exciting games, no watchtowers, snow

Expected Korhal City to be bottom, though, free 3base ruins everything. Nothing really bad about Star Station imo, it's just a bit boring.
banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
April 01 2013 21:02 GMT
#41
I honestly dont understand why people enjoy planet s so much, so i would appreciate an explanation. Akilon is ok but the desert theme is kinda lame, korhal city is atrocious, newkirk precinct is ok but can be really irritating as well, star station is awful and is impossible to go three base imo, although the tile set is fantastic and its by far the coolest map, vestige is pretty good but the 9000 ramps are kinda awkward and annoying, whirlwind is to damn big and really easy for mutas or terran drops which makes a protoss player cry, and daybreak is still ok but getting old. not sure why cloud kingdom is gone, still the most balanced map i can think of. and i would also like to see another map comparable to metalopolis, something small in size but 4 player, and i love the gold bases in the center, kind of how they are on planet s but actually a little bit easier to take. If they would rework star station some i would like it a lot more, but as long as it loans itself to two base allins, such as that annoying swarm host nydus allin, i will hate it.
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IMplying
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany58 Posts
April 01 2013 22:18 GMT
#42
Where is the "I dislike all of them" option?
MelloSC2
Profile Joined January 2013
United States5 Posts
April 01 2013 22:50 GMT
#43
I'm confused as fuck to see Planet S as number 1. no watch tower is nice but the expansions are horrible.
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
April 01 2013 23:28 GMT
#44
On April 01 2013 09:53 Nikoras wrote:
As a toss player, fuck planet S, I like holding my third. I've had a lot of good games on whirlwind and bel'shir vestige though.


I sense not enough soul in this one.. planet S is a great choo choo map. ;(
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igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
April 02 2013 00:01 GMT
#45
Planet s is good makes for fun games
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SCAReaSoN
Profile Joined November 2012
United States7 Posts
April 02 2013 00:05 GMT
#46
...planet s would be a cool map but you know... you cant take a third..
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Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
April 02 2013 00:32 GMT
#47
I really like Neo Planet S but I lose on it a lot, and I don't really like Star Station but I win every time =\
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
April 02 2013 01:45 GMT
#48
im having a lot of trouble holding 3rds on Neo planet S as toss vs Z in particular, so i dont really like playing it. its fun to watch games on though!
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
April 02 2013 04:53 GMT
#49
Neo Planet S is my favorite, followed by Bel'Shir Vestige.
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AhOhitzXray
Profile Joined May 2012
United States48 Posts
April 02 2013 05:03 GMT
#50
Planet S is trash. just counter attacks or terran widow mines the whole map.
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SoBeDragon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States192 Posts
April 02 2013 05:45 GMT
#51
I have a love hate relationship with planet S. It makes for some great ZvT games, but no clearly defined 3rd, narrow choke points and hallways everywhere makes ZvP very tough.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 02 2013 05:47 GMT
#52
Whirlwind or Star Station (the name is terrible but honestly I kind of like the map).

I can't stand Planet S. Feels a bit scare on resources, 4th base feels a million miles away and I swear my 3rd gets counterattacked like 80 times when I try to move out for a push. So many different paths I wouldn't dare meching on it.
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Buddhabig
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark72 Posts
April 02 2013 06:19 GMT
#53
Mine is still Daybreak :3
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InTCCCP
Profile Joined April 2013
Norway3 Posts
April 02 2013 07:46 GMT
#54
No watchtowers on that map. isnt that alittle bit unfair in PvZ?¨
I mean, you would have to circle observers motherships and oracles on that map. =)
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zelevin
Profile Joined January 2012
United States274 Posts
April 02 2013 11:49 GMT
#55
LOL 32% of the players are zerg, because 32% chose Neo Planet S. haha
NITROOOO
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1 Post
April 02 2013 14:41 GMT
#56
planet s is great, no watchtowers
Leberwurstbrot
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany144 Posts
April 02 2013 14:49 GMT
#57
On April 02 2013 20:49 zelevin wrote:
LOL 32% of the players are zerg, because 32% chose Neo Planet S. haha


I'm Zerg and i hate this map Oo.
The best map is stlill Daybreak. Bel'Shir Vestige is nice, too.
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
April 02 2013 17:07 GMT
#58
As a Protoss player, Neo Planet S makes me want to cry my eyes out.

Hate that map.
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Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
April 02 2013 18:15 GMT
#59
Planet S is really pretty decent for Protoss despite complaints... You got a nice small choke at your third. Totally favors the defender unlike CK or DB, except against siege pushes, but that puts them pretty far out of position. Pretty easy to hold three bases against drops, too. Most the paths are a great width for FFs and Colossus-based armies. Hard to be flanked. Against Bio or Roach/Hydra styles it's pretty good, maybe a little tougher against mech or swarm host stuff.
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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
April 02 2013 18:47 GMT
#60
I kinda like all of them. Planet S or Newkirk are my favorites though, playing as terran.
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Akash1223
Profile Joined March 2011
United States91 Posts
April 02 2013 19:51 GMT
#61
I'm fine with every map aside from Korhal; in base naturals are just stupid.
Hadley88
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany267 Posts
April 02 2013 20:13 GMT
#62
Neo Planet S is by far the worst map. Way too hard to take a Third as Terran.
Hanzo_
Profile Joined March 2013
United States29 Posts
April 03 2013 00:32 GMT
#63
On April 01 2013 09:53 Nikoras wrote:
As a toss player, fuck planet S, I like holding my third. I've had a lot of good games on whirlwind and bel'shir vestige though.


Ya, I could see PvZ getting really tough when you try to hold off mutalisks and take your third. That third is so exposed
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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 03 2013 00:42 GMT
#64
I like NewKirk Precinct although I haven't played all that much. All my games on there have been fun macro games so maybe that's why I like it.
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Klyberess
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden345 Posts
April 03 2013 03:09 GMT
#65
Daybreak, easily. Akilon is fine. I enjoy Newkirk as I don't lose much on it, but it's rather poorly designed. Korhal City is my least favorite for sure. Neo Planet S is also annoying.
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 03 2013 04:10 GMT
#66
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Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 11:50:46
April 03 2013 11:50 GMT
#67
as a terran FUCK neo planet s. it's the worst map in this pool, I have like 25% winrate on it. HATE HATE HATE. how do i hold mutas there with a third? i don't, that's how...
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Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
April 03 2013 11:59 GMT
#68
Akilon for me, although that's more because I hardly ever get any match-ups on Planet S or Whirlwind. With over 30 games played so far this season I've only had 2 matches on Planet S and 5 on Whirlwind. Seems the only games I play are Akilon, Newkirk and Bel'Shir (other two horrible maps are veto'd).
gamingaddictmike
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada30 Posts
April 03 2013 13:43 GMT
#69
On April 02 2013 01:40 sambo400 wrote:
I think all these maps are pretty bad. Planet S forces Protoss to 2 base all in, Whirlwind is just too large, Akilon is ok but it seems too easy for Protoss, Bel shir has too many ramps, and the rest are shit for obvious reasons.

Put Bifrost on Ladder.

All these things are true. I'm masters protoss and my winrate on akilon is the best. That being said, I think there are often maps that are slightly in favour of a race (whirlwind for example is good for zerg)

But planet s has an impossible third...and no watch tower which I hate. I only like it because its 2 player and I prefer those over 4
lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
April 03 2013 15:27 GMT
#70
Planet S is a trash bin.
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Tosster
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland299 Posts
April 03 2013 16:19 GMT
#71
Fuck Planet S, almost impossible to defend 3rd as a protoss, and impossible to defend 3rd with air play.
synd
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria586 Posts
April 03 2013 18:02 GMT
#72
Seems like Planet S is the most hated map in the comments.
Yeah I hate it too because 3rd is impossible to defend.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 03 2013 20:10 GMT
#73
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Virus.IV
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1 Post
April 03 2013 21:11 GMT
#74
Obvious its Neo Planet S dude everyone wants to pretend like there at GSL ^.*
Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
April 03 2013 23:20 GMT
#75
Whirlwind is great!
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
April 04 2013 00:39 GMT
#76
Neo planet S is a terrible map honestly. It is so hard to take a fourth vs Zerg as a protoss.
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