EPTOn July 18 2012 09:37 Iddqdish wrote:
on the fly - Stephano
if there is time to prepare for 1 match - Naniwa
on the fly - Stephano
if there is time to prepare for 1 match - Naniwa
Agreed.
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On July 19 2012 09:43 KalWarkov wrote: how about including naniwas dreamhack performance? stephano never dissappoints, in fact he wouldve probably won most tournaments if he wouldnt get wasted before the finals day... like saw that at dreamhack? he slept on a couch at 6 pm next to 2GD... just an example. he IS the best foreigner, whoever says differently overrates code S a bit. Code S is the hardest tournament - yes. but u can also get far without being the best in that format. as we saw with HuK before... You said Naniwa's Code S run was easy. I was illustrating that easy Code S runs were harder than pretty much anything outside of Code S. What you wish to believe is none of my concern, but trying to devalue Naniwa's achievements by implying that they were easy is dishonest. That is all. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
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EsMuyVien
United States408 Posts
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banzaiib
United States53 Posts
 Seriously though... I wish their ELO ratings were up to date (unless I'm mistaken), then we could have a bit more "intellectual" or at the very least, mathematical debate... i mean, who doesn't love one of those? | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On July 19 2012 08:55 Fanatic-Templar wrote: Here's what I got from checking Liquipedia: Naniwa's "easy" GSL runs: Puzzle, Ryung, Genius, Supernova, loss to MVP. Nestea, Creator, Keen, Genius, loss to Dongraegu. Stephano's "difficult" non-GSL runs from 2012: NASL: Beastyqt, Hero, MC, Alicia Dreamhack Summer: Tails (the Swedish one), Mojagy, Puma, Daisy, freizy, Morrow, Huk, Keen, Nerchio, loss to Mana. MLG Spring Arena: Ryung, Ret, MC, Heart, losses to Violet and Symbol. Assembly Winter: Mana, NightEnd, Happy (the Russian one), Real, elfi, Puma, loss to Polt. Red Bull Battlegrounds: Violet, Illusion, Ganzi, Parting, loss to MC. Lone Star Clash: Hawk, Grubby, White-Ra, Polt. What would you say are the strongest opponents either defeated? How many easy players did they have to go through? When you take stats as proff atleats be correct. Seriously Redbull battleground you left out his win over Squirtle(3-1) And you leave out MLG Anahaim completly: Stephano vs Sase 1-2 Stephano vs MKP 1-2 Stephano vs Rain 2-1 Stephano vs JYP 2-0 Stephano vs Ganzi 2-0 Stephano vs Alicia 2-0 Stephano vs Polt 2-1 And not only that you leave out all of Naniwa´s none GSL performance like 2 dreamhack where he got knocked out early and you leave out NASL showdown where Genius dominated him 4-0 Come on is this what TL has become? We just make shit up as we go or dont post the correct info? | ||
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naastyOne
491 Posts
Naniva failed to deliver in same tournaments where Stephano ended up higher. Code S is, while impressive, has a very specific format, that leads to it`s results nob beirg very relevant to other tournaments. | ||
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On July 19 2012 10:32 Benjamin99 wrote: When you take stats as proff atleats be correct. Seriously Redbull battleground you left out his win over Squirtle(3-1) And you leave out MLG Anahaim completly: Stephano vs Sase 1-2 Stephano vs MKP 1-2 Stephano vs Rain 2-1 Stephano vs JYP 2-0 Stephano vs Ganzi 2-0 Stephano vs Alicia 2-0 Stephano vs Polt 2-1 And not only that you leave out all of Naniwa´s none GSL performance like 2 dreamhack where he got knocked out early and you leave out NASL showdown where Genius dominated him 4-0 Come on is this what TL has become? We just make shit up as we go or dont post the correct info? I did not include Stephano's MLG Anaheim run because it was not included in my source. You may certainly feel free to add it if you wish. I did not include Naninwas non-GSL performances because they are not allegedly easy GSL Code S runs, which, if you had bothered reading what my post was replying to before getting your panties in a twist, you would have realised was the entire point. I would throw your final line back at you, but I prefer not to quote the words of fools. | ||
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polyphonyEX
United States2539 Posts
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AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
On July 19 2012 07:12 JeffGoldblum wrote: He does it in tournaments that last for 3 or less days. Tournaments in which very specific preparation barely exists. I don't see why winning games when you know who's your opponent in advance is more impressive. An argument could be made that the player who can excel against anybody at any time is more well rounded. | ||
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INTOtheVOID
United States225 Posts
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iiGreetings
Canada563 Posts
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CursivE
Australia317 Posts
The GSL is the most prestigious league for SC2 and as such should carry more weight. Performing well in a tournament setting shows excellent mechanics. But mechanics isn't everything in SC2. It's why NesTea has won more GSLs than MKP. | ||
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Scurvy
United States117 Posts
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
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TORTOISE
United States515 Posts
No comparison at all. | ||
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FlamingTurd
United States1059 Posts
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fairymonger
United States81 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On July 18 2012 10:33 Drowsy wrote: Stephano because of race, but its really close. and definitely need to take this into consideration as well. you racist | ||
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