EPTDoes he treat his practice matches with the same disdain, because they don't really matter? Why couldn't he treat it as simply another opportunity to practice, while treating his fans to a show? If it's all about results and money then go get a real job and quit wasting the fans time.
What do you think of Naniwa vs Nestea? - Page 3
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liberal
1116 Posts
Does he treat his practice matches with the same disdain, because they don't really matter? Why couldn't he treat it as simply another opportunity to practice, while treating his fans to a show? If it's all about results and money then go get a real job and quit wasting the fans time. | ||
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Perfect
United States322 Posts
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Psotnik
Poland14 Posts
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ReturnStroke
United States801 Posts
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say1988
9 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:38 liberal wrote: People should play this game because they love to play it, because they have a passion for it and because they ENJOY it. Even if they don't enjoy (and Nani probably does the vast majority of the time) it, as soon as you are being paid to do a job, you do it when you feel happy and when you don't. | ||
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XIJABERWALKIX
United States27 Posts
Naniwa doesn't get that doing the things he does (probe rushing, bad interviews, etc) actually hurt the credibility of e-sports. Other professional sports teams play time and time again in "pointless" games, however they play them and they play them with a decent amount of effort. Sure they might try harder if things were on the line, but they still want to win. It's about pride. Possibly even more than that, it's about credibility and heart of the game. No one wants to put money into a league where everyone except the top teams/players start quitting because they have little to no chance of advancing. If that were the case, every single sporting format would be something like elimination style tournaments, there would be no "seasons." Leagues and especially teams need to start coaching players on proper professional etiquette if eSports is to continue to grow at the rate it has been. There are no excuses for things like that anymore. We're so close to the big leagues, it would be a shame for something like that to hold us back. | ||
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NKexquisite
United States911 Posts
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Loweryder
Canada11 Posts
On the other hand, saying that Naniwa should no longer be a progamer is completely ridiculous, he did not cheat and everything he did was 'within his rights' to do, it was just quite disappointing for the majority of his fans. While I never was a Naniwa fan to begin with, it will be even harder now for me to cheer for him as the 'foreigner hope'. | ||
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AbstractRDK
Greece4 Posts
I think its completely unacceptable, that a professional player, throws a game away in a big event like that. Many people don't seem to realize what it means to be professional in any kind of sport. You are getting paid to do what you're doing, so unless something really important stops you from doing that, you have to play the game. I don't care if he would have tried to actually win the game or not, and that's not the point. The point is, apart from playing games, you're there to do a job. People saying that GOM should have a better format are right. But that doesn't give the right to Naniwa (or anyone else) to not play the games he is supposed to play. Naniwa agreed to play in this tournament and he was aware of the format before the tournament started. Can you imagine if u went to watch a Tennis game, and the game didn't have any impact on the tournament, and u had to watch for 15 minutes one player throwing the ball outside the court all the time? Can you imagine if u went to watch a football game, and one team doesn't care about the result, and they score own-goals for 90 minutes? Naniwa eventually admitted that he should have gone for a 4gate, and imo any build that would end the game as quickly as possible while giving the crowd something to see would have been totally acceptable. You can lose the game however you want, you can lose it quickly in many ways, but at least do what you're supposed to do. If we want e-Sports to be taken seriously in the future, we have to show good sportsmanship, good tournament formats and professionalism. | ||
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Wherewolf
United States353 Posts
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:46 Massing wrote: then they should figure out a system where played games have a sense well it does up his overall win rate if he wins more games xD | ||
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Engore
United States1916 Posts
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strength
United States493 Posts
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
I guess 3 poll options fit me. | ||
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Giants92
16 Posts
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FidoDido
United States1292 Posts
The verdict has already been handed out by GomTV(not publicly, but there is no need to announce it publicly to stir up more debates in the foreign community anyways), there isn't anything anyone here can say that will be read to change the decision made. I won't go into details but you can be sure GomTV won't make the same mistake twice with the same player. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
1. Thousands of people are watching, including your fans. 2. You are up against one of the best players in the world in a pressure-filled environment. Much better practice than ladder. | ||
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eSu.Matix
Bulgaria22 Posts
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