EPTWhat do you think of Naniwa vs Nestea? - Page 2
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nagual
Ukraine70 Posts
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Zeburial
Sweden1126 Posts
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Samba
Germany452 Posts
I voted disappointet as well, but it seems that people are picking way more on Naniwa than other players. Don´t let them play such meaningless matches after they´re basicly already out of the tournament. As a sportsman i can really empathize Naniwa´s feelings. I would have loved to see something freaky out of him for this game, but i can understand that he was too frustrated for that. | ||
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Fus
Sweden1112 Posts
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silverhand
United States91 Posts
If the revenge match was so vital to the success of this tournament, GOMtv's viewers, the esports community, etc...why not showcase it on the schedule before it has the opportunity to be meaningless? I can understand if they were trying to have it as a later match in the schedule so the foreigners that didn't want to stay up to watch it had an easier time waking up early to see it, but then you are catering to your non-paying viewers, more than the ones who pay to have access to the VODs as I'm sure if Naniwa and Nestea played their match anywhere from the 1st to 4th match of the evening, the VOD for the game would be highly accessed as opposed to now. If GOMtv is concerned about the quality of meaningless matches, it is poor foresight on their part to have not put out a schedule where Naniwa's games vs Leenock and Nestea were guaranteed to mean something - especially since there was plenty of reason to believe that Naniwa (and I happen to think he's a top Protoss player) could go 0-4 in that group. Would people really be that pissed off if Naniwa shrugged off a game to Polt or MMA? From a pure business standpoint, you have to understand the demands of your viewers and the possible implications of personalities such as Naniwa and Idra crushing the hype of a match because they go on tilt. I don't excuse Naniwa in this...just thought that not enough people are even looking at it from a poor planning perspective on the part of GOMtv. | ||
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Madder
Australia427 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:21 tsuxiit wrote: Yeah, but...it's not exactly in Naniwa's best interest to throw games blatantly when tens of thousands of people are watching on stream and his team is trying it's hardest to support him. I can imagine that for NaNiwa, that would be kind of hard to work with, considering he was obviously demoralized or on 'tilt'. Playing another game that doesn't change the result of his advancement in the tournament, let alone that of his opponent gives no strive, no incentive to play at his fullest effort as he did in the first 3 games. | ||
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FlopTurnReaver
Switzerland1980 Posts
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Madder
Australia427 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:21 FlopTurnReaver wrote: I understand that especially the Korean fans are outraged. Judging from all the interviews with Korean players I've seen, bringing the fans entertaining games is like the most important thing over there. Yeah, considering the league was plagued with 2-rax games for a good amount of time. Play to win, yes. Play for nothing after already being defeated, painful and unecassary. | ||
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jaminski
England84 Posts
if players are playing for nothing then atleast give them to vote to play a meaningless game and have them explain it on stream / TV so that viewers understand there and then | ||
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Arcane86
United States68 Posts
When we think about "how the community feels" I think poll is a reflection of just how not angry the "community" actually is. | ||
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wolferick
Belgium13 Posts
Anyway, it's not that the tournament is ruined or anything. There are still more then enough awesome matches to see, I'm looking forward to another Mvp VS Leenock-run, those matches were just awesome at Providence and GSL. I sure hope Leenock will beat MC tomorrow morning (I live at +1). | ||
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
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Madder
Australia427 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:37 Goibon wrote: I hope this leads toward tournament organisers not creating these situations. If that doesn't happen then this was all for nothing. I hope so as well, NaNiwa getting all this blind and narrow hate better count for something. | ||
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pms
Poland611 Posts
On December 14 2011 00:41 Vansetsu wrote: But he is absolutely not a sportsman, which is also even more important during a time when e-sports are something that are trying to be considered "sport" in mainstream culture. You're wrong here. He obviously is a sportsman and has a very, very strong feeling of competition, which DRIVES every kind of sport. But he is not a showman, and he proves so on every occasion. I expect though that he will cheer up and calm down after getting hist first big success (winning GSL, although I don't know if it will happen). Until that time my expectation is that he'll keep on being as rough as he is. And I love him for this. He's a PERSONALITY. He has some balls there to be as he is. | ||
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QuailMaen
Norway6 Posts
If it wasnt for GOM, fans, entertaining casters and other esports personalitys. They would still sitt at home with their dick in their hand, with no income. They should show some respect, and try to give entertaining games even if they are out. Iam a former CS1.6 progamer, and whining about tourneys and how they do their stuff is just BS. Don't .... join them then, sit at home and play your game. Without them, they couldn't do this for a living. Players starting to act like casanovas. Manner up! and take some responsibility. | ||
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laguu
Finland278 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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kawoq
Guatemala357 Posts
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EclipZe
United States39 Posts
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say1988
9 Posts
In professional sports in this situation you won`t put out your best play and strategies (and I wouldn`t blame Nani for such), but you don`t just fold and go home. If a football team did this it would be a scandal, and rightly so. In some minor tournament, I wouldn`t care as much. In a larger tournament (with more players and more games) I would care less as there is much more filler. But this tournament is small with a limited number of matchup and leans heavily towards a show. I hope he at least tried to forfeit before hand and GOM or Quantic forced him to play, because no game is better than building expectations and quitting. Yes this is getting more attention because of who did it, but my view holds even if it wasn't Nani. | ||
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