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nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
May 19 2011 17:48 GMT
#321
I think TSL should be like the 'World Championship' Of starcraft 2 and it should be once a year. Start the qualifiers in ~January and the final should be in May as it was this time.

Greatest Tournament I've seen :D Over 65k on the stream and so on...
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
boyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States134 Posts
May 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#322
two a year... few months in between
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
May 19 2011 18:10 GMT
#323
On May 20 2011 00:30 Anomyme wrote:
i votet for no more TSL, because TSL is stupid... koreans just lose because of lag... make it offline or forget it
You don't know what you're talking about: lag was not the issue. The lag favored the Koreans at least as much as it favored the foreigners (some games were played on Korean servers; some on foreign servers), and in the case of presumably the top Korean in the tournament, MC, the series he lost was played in a lag-free environment (both MC and Thorzain were in Europe at the time).

Lag is just a flimsy excuse for people who don't want to admit that in the Starcraft 2 scene, the gap between foreigners and Koreans is tiny, if not non-existent.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Anomyme
Profile Joined May 2011
8 Posts
May 19 2011 18:16 GMT
#324
On May 20 2011 03:10 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 00:30 Anomyme wrote:
i votet for no more TSL, because TSL is stupid... koreans just lose because of lag... make it offline or forget it
You don't know what you're talking about: lag was not the issue. The lag favored the Koreans at least as much as it favored the foreigners (some games were played on Korean servers; some on foreign servers), and in the case of presumably the top Korean in the tournament, MC, the series he lost was played in a lag-free environment (both MC and Thorzain were in Europe at the time).

Lag is just a flimsy excuse for people who don't want to admit that in the Starcraft 2 scene, the gap between foreigners and Koreans is tiny, if not non-existent.



yeah i know that TSL have splitted the servers you play on. but i know, that even idra said its not fair and unplayable as korean, understand?

i want TSL to be the biggest and finest gather of the worlds best players... that's why i criticize it like that, don't get me wrong. but if TSL is only a foreigner tournament, it's different. i thought it's the best tournament made from the western world.
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
May 19 2011 19:05 GMT
#325
Once a year is good.
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
TheMag
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania43 Posts
May 19 2011 19:41 GMT
#326
2 times would be epic..
up up
Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
May 19 2011 19:46 GMT
#327
I voted 'start already' because... yeah. But indeed once a year or similar adds way more hype. I honestly didn't follow too much of last GSTL and gsl may because it feels there's no time to raise expectations. Same happens with super tournament. There should be slight break between big tournaments so people don't get tired in having too much to follow.

There's been long breaks between TSLs in the past too? Or well, at least 2 & 3. So I don't see need to rush it.
Greem
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
730 Posts
May 19 2011 19:47 GMT
#328
Once in 3 months is cool for me. So there will be Summer/Winter/Spring/Autumn champions, and then maybe a semifinal between them !
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tdynasty
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada220 Posts
May 19 2011 19:53 GMT
#329
Start it up ASAP!

As a Pro Spectator, TSL was amazing, Being a PRO sc2 player needs to be a full time Job!
Besides, who isn't hyped about more ThorZain the Champion matches?

Or the Insanly Motivated Angry Naniwa Vegeta like Matches!

Liquid Nation is so awsome.

Once a year is just Silly..... Who the fuck would want to wait 10 months between TSL's.

People saying the Hype will go down... Are you Kidding me. All TSL needs to do is bring in new maps each tournament and the Fun will never stop for spectators. Cause to be honest, Crevasse, Tal'Darim, Terminus are fun maps.

There is so much Awsome potential for sick series in tournament Games with a Nice Prize Pool.

GSL is once a month... TSL should be TWICE a month!
French Canada
debbyCYA
Profile Joined February 2011
Egypt22 Posts
May 19 2011 19:58 GMT
#330
I really feel like a lot of tournaments lose their hype because they occur too often. The best things come once a year: Christmas, March Madness, Shark Week..etc If we start having like 8 tournaments 4 times a year its gonna be hard to keep up. This is coming from someone who watches 10-20 hours of sc2 a week.

The tsl3 has been one of the most fun to watch tournaments I have gotten a chance to kind of participate in. From the qualifiers, to ro32 upset madness, to the awesome TvT slugfest that was Thorzain vs Kas, and of course the finals. Just everymatch played with such heart, I loved it.

Point is I would say make it once a year. Hype it up, get everyone excited, and do it right. And by do it right I mean do it exactly the same and hope it turns out just as good.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
May 19 2011 20:02 GMT
#331
TSL is the best tournament out there. Actually i'd prefer something like one tournament a year, to build up the hype and expectations. 9 Months would be ok too!
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
May 19 2011 20:17 GMT
#332
2 times a year seems reasonable, not too often to make it less epic but still enough :-)
crack
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
May 19 2011 20:35 GMT
#333
2 times a year, more would make it less special.

tsl should not be like nasl or gsl.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
EnWara
Profile Joined May 2011
United States55 Posts
May 19 2011 20:45 GMT
#334
I think that twice a year would be perfect. It's still not that often and the TSL was a lot of fun. I wouldn't want to wait for a whole year to go by
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
May 19 2011 21:45 GMT
#335
TSL should only be once a year.
I would rather have that 1 amazing tournament every year, that gets 100% effort put into it.
Then have the same tournament being run 4-5 times a year, not getting enough time to prepare and not have 100% effort because by the 3rd time everyone is tired.
GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
May 19 2011 21:50 GMT
#336
the people who voted No more TSL's probably had some part in setting up TSL3 which i heard was pretty hectic.
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ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
May 19 2011 22:54 GMT
#337
if christmas came every week it wouldnt be christmas. Once a year is good, otherwise it wont be prestigous winning it.
NerO
Profile Joined February 2003
United States2071 Posts
May 19 2011 23:01 GMT
#338
4 a year would be sick
Lori.
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany97 Posts
May 19 2011 23:02 GMT
#339
Once a year, jep
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
May 19 2011 23:04 GMT
#340
I would love MORE TSL next week!

But. I know that making TSL possible is an HUGE (humoungus?) effort and to make everything so smooth requires many hours of work so I think that TL staff deserves some time to rest and enjoy the credits of the excelent tournament that they gave us.

Besides: if we had TSL every month and a half it would surely lose quality and interest.

I aprove TSL every 6 months (an year is to looong...!).
aka Wardo
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