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xaeiu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
432 Posts
May 19 2011 12:08 GMT
#301
On May 19 2011 19:30 krews wrote:
2 a year would be perfect

yeah...kinda like dreamhack
and i have no one ever heard saying...way too much dreamhack tournaments going on
Noelani
Profile Joined May 2010
55 Posts
May 19 2011 12:52 GMT
#302
I can't believe some people would actually like to have fewer TSLs because of some notion of "making it special." If I won a million dollars every day, it would still be awesome each day.

And also, qualify or GTFO.. the vast majority of the invited players proved that their big names are nothing but hype and failed miserably.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 19 2011 13:01 GMT
#303
Agree with 2x a year being best, only one a year would be too painful to wait for ^^
and anything more often than 2x a year the hype will be smaller (and poor TL staff will have to work their ass off so much, although most wont care about that )
beep boop
rexob
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden202 Posts
May 19 2011 13:21 GMT
#304
shouldn't voters of "no more TSL" be banned? also, once a year is a little too seldom, but this shouldn't be like GSL. twice a year maybe? or 1½ per year? once is a little to little but some surley would lose interest if this becomes an evenet as frequent as GSL
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FILM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States663 Posts
May 19 2011 13:43 GMT
#305
Once a year would build its prestige.
Artosis:  "It's like Detroit in there."   Tasteless:  "Lots of shootings and damaged buildings."
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
May 19 2011 13:47 GMT
#306
3-4 times a year sounds ideal to me, TSL spring, TSL summer, TSL Autumn/Fall, TSL Winter.

Keeps it elite and precious, ensures it's a BIG event with BIG prizes which again ensures it dominates the scene. It gives you something to look forward to, rather than being just that event you can qualify next month for too if you fail this time.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
May 19 2011 13:49 GMT
#307
On May 19 2011 21:52 Noelani wrote:
I can't believe some people would actually like to have fewer TSLs because of some notion of "making it special." If I won a million dollars every day, it would still be awesome each day.

You use an example that doesn't prove your point. I guarantee that every million wouldnt be as awesome. I'm pretty sure after 50 or so, you'd go "yeah, that's nice I guess"
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
May 19 2011 14:28 GMT
#308
3 times / year would be perfect, as long as production quality & prizes dont take a hit.

like TSL winter, TSL spring, TSL Summer/Fall (since this is a bit dead period with vacations etc.).
myhybris
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden16 Posts
May 19 2011 14:40 GMT
#309
On May 19 2011 10:25 VGhost wrote:
Thoughts on scheduling:

The elimination bracket is a Ro32 and will likely stay that way, no? Assuming TL keeps the weekend schedule (which is brilliant) that gives us:

2 weeks for Ro32 (Sat/Sun x4 matches each)
2 weeks for Ro16 (Sat/Sun x2 matches each)
1 week for Ro8 (Sat/Sun x2 matches each)
1 week for Ro4 (Sat/Sun x1 match each)
1 week for Grand Final/3rd place (Sat/Sun x1 match each)

This is 7 weeks minimum to run the actual tournament. Assuming that we keep the same format, we have:

16 seeds/invites*
8 qualifier winners
8 qualifiers on points

This adds 8 more weeks of qualifiers, assuming they run one a week. (It would be possible to run more than one at a time of course but that's going to screw things up I think.) So the point is, we're talking a minimum of four months to run a TSL.

That limits the TSL to a max of three seasons a year (similar to the MSL/OSL). Practically, it limits it to two seasons a year given staffing, sorting invites, scheduling, etc.

TSL has been running a little less than once a year so far.

I think the optimal idea is to continue the TSL as a "yearly" tournament and in fact make that the official position. I'm not inherently opposed to two seasons a year, though more is just a really bad idea - but I'm in favor of limiting the occurences.

* And here's the note. I think that it would make more sense to seed 4, and then invites should be top performers from other tourneys (GSL, MLG IPL, NASL, Dreamhack, etc. depending on which events develop as most prestigious). I mean, 12 invites (or the 13 we now have) seems like a lot, but if you have top 3 GSL invited, top 3 MLG or IPL, top 3 Dreamhack, or whatever, that's completely a legit field.


Couldn't say it better. There is alot of different tournaments starting up all over the place right now and this timeline will allow the players / fans to prepare for it and it will keep its prestige. (thats if the fans can wait that long and not storm the TL hq while waiting
lintan81
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden20 Posts
May 19 2011 14:58 GMT
#310
TSL - NA
TSL - EURO
TSL - KR
Top 4 from each to ----> TSL - Championships live!
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 19 2011 15:08 GMT
#311
They should definitely wait a bit. TSL feels really special because it doesn't happen all the time. But what I'd really like to see is a BW TSL again.

Anyways, I hate those idiots who vote ''Don't need anymore'' just because they can. -__-
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
ichimarugin680
Profile Joined February 2009
United States182 Posts
May 19 2011 15:24 GMT
#312
Hmm I guess the ones that voted no more tsl are the hardcore bw idealists that hate sc2 lol
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Anomyme
Profile Joined May 2011
8 Posts
May 19 2011 15:30 GMT
#313
i votet for no more TSL, because TSL is stupid... koreans just lose because of lag... make it offline or forget it

User was banned for this post.
Coraz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States252 Posts
May 19 2011 15:33 GMT
#314
tsl 4 should be brood war

hehe
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Nuttyguy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom1526 Posts
May 19 2011 15:40 GMT
#315
tsl should be done once in a while without a fixed schedule to the public like a surprise.
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 15:53:16
May 19 2011 15:51 GMT
#316
On May 20 2011 00:30 Anomyme wrote:
i votet for no more TSL, because TSL is stupid... koreans just lose because of lag... make it offline or forget it


Yeah... So why won't you just organise that one yourself huh?

TSL have been and should be mainly for foreigners. If you want to see Koreans, watch GSL.

TSL isn't the one who is stupid sir, it is you.
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 16:22:30
May 19 2011 16:15 GMT
#317
Maybe wait a bit...

Now is time for TSTL in the break between the TSL's.
Also at people who write that we should have more than 2 a year.
TSL should abolish the invite system. Only top 3 of previous TSL should get autoinvite. Rest should fight hard in TLOpens EU,NA,KR for spots and points.
polysciguy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States488 Posts
May 19 2011 16:34 GMT
#318
id like the qualifiers to be televised/streamed/whatever
glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever---napoleon
Zxro
Profile Joined October 2010
United States61 Posts
May 19 2011 16:49 GMT
#319
TSL, twice a year. with smaller events in between. Great idea.

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I rage quit.
Slurgi
Profile Joined March 2010
United States118 Posts
May 19 2011 17:05 GMT
#320
Of course, the players would like you to start qualifiers now

I'm scared that too frequent would dilute the experience though, so maybe it would be best to wait a little while?
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