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1. Flash
2. Zero
3. Soulkey
4. Bisu
5. Hydra
6. Jaedong
7. Movie
8. Bogus
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On May 29 2011 11:04 Brycks7 wrote:1. Flash 2. Zero 3. Soulkey 4. Bisu 5. Hydra 6. Jaedong 7. Movie 8. Bogus Easy
why the hell is soulkey above bisu. bisu trashes soulkey everytime?
Why is soulkey above hydra?
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2 times semifinal or higher in a row and people still think Hydra's "just a fluke?" Kind of want to see FBH, Horang2, and Light in low PR spots. Bogus was pretty good. 1-0 over both Dong and Sea and 1-1 with Soulkey, but 0-1 to Hydra, 0-1 to Bisu, 0-2 to FBH tells me he should be behind those guys.
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On May 29 2011 04:03 swanized wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 21:37 vishrut wrote:
i think it should be:
flash
bisu
zero
jaedong/hydra if hydra > flash then hydra
hydra/jaedong if flash < hydra then hydra
soulkey
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bisu just seems more scary than zero because of zero's inconsistency and stuff (lose to jaehoon)
jaedong is not looking that scary apart from his vT
soulkey is below jaedong because he is still new How is soulkey still considered a new player? he's been an A-teamer for more then a year already and this is not even his first time on the power rank, there's no way you can put Jaedong above soulkey considering their month
Except Jaedong was actually in the MSL.
Just saying.
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On May 29 2011 11:21 Mortality wrote:
2 times semifinal or higher in a row and people still think Hydra's "just a fluke?" Kind of want to see FBH, Horang2, and Light in low PR spots. Bogus was pretty good. 1-0 over both Dong and Sea and 1-1 with Soulkey, but 0-1 to Hydra, 0-1 to Bisu, 0-2 to FBH tells me he should be behind those guys.
He essentially ZvZ'd all the way to his first title (1), having gotten lucky to not run into good terrans. His win vs JD was noteworthy, but then again JD's ZvZ is no longer immortal either. In his second run (so far) he arranged for himself to have a (mostly) safe trip to the ro8 by sticking Flash/JD/Bisu in group D (which is not a very champion-like thing to do). He beat a slumping Stork (which wasn't bad, I'll admit) and then Mind.
While I certainly don't think Hydra is a bad player (in fact I don't know that anyone does) I also don't think he's S-class or anything, though he is certainly hyped as such by certain people. If he manages to convincingly beat Flash in mechanics/gameplay (not just relying on ling all-in/2-hatch lurks/etc) I'll likely be changing my tune.
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On May 29 2011 11:44 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 11:21 Mortality wrote:
2 times semifinal or higher in a row and people still think Hydra's "just a fluke?" Kind of want to see FBH, Horang2, and Light in low PR spots. Bogus was pretty good. 1-0 over both Dong and Sea and 1-1 with Soulkey, but 0-1 to Hydra, 0-1 to Bisu, 0-2 to FBH tells me he should be behind those guys. He essentially ZvZ'd all the way to his first title ( 1), having gotten lucky to not run into good terrans. His win vs JD was noteworthy, but then again JD's ZvZ is no longer immortal either. In his second run he arranged for himself to have a (mostly) safe trip to the ro8 by sticking Flash/JD/Bisu in group D (which is not a very champion-like thing to do). He did beat Stork (which wasn't bad, I'll admit), and then Mind. While I certainly don't think Hydra is a bad player (in fact I don't know that anyone does) I also don't think he's S-class or anything, though he is certainly hyped as such by certain people. If he manages to convincingly beat Flash in mechanics/gameplay (not just relying on ling all-in/2-hatch lurks/etc) I'll likely be changing my tune.
i just realized he might put stork and bisu into flash's group if he wins and fuck up the next msl
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On May 29 2011 11:54 vishrut wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 11:44 moopie wrote:On May 29 2011 11:21 Mortality wrote:
2 times semifinal or higher in a row and people still think Hydra's "just a fluke?" Kind of want to see FBH, Horang2, and Light in low PR spots. Bogus was pretty good. 1-0 over both Dong and Sea and 1-1 with Soulkey, but 0-1 to Hydra, 0-1 to Bisu, 0-2 to FBH tells me he should be behind those guys. He essentially ZvZ'd all the way to his first title ( 1), having gotten lucky to not run into good terrans. His win vs JD was noteworthy, but then again JD's ZvZ is no longer immortal either. In his second run he arranged for himself to have a (mostly) safe trip to the ro8 by sticking Flash/JD/Bisu in group D (which is not a very champion-like thing to do). He did beat Stork (which wasn't bad, I'll admit), and then Mind. While I certainly don't think Hydra is a bad player (in fact I don't know that anyone does) I also don't think he's S-class or anything, though he is certainly hyped as such by certain people. If he manages to convincingly beat Flash in mechanics/gameplay (not just relying on ling all-in/2-hatch lurks/etc) I'll likely be changing my tune. i just realized he might put stork and bisu into flash's group if he wins and fuck up the next msl
And if Flash wins, perhaps he'll stick Bisu and great into Hydra's group to let Bisu get some revenge.
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On May 29 2011 11:56 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 11:54 vishrut wrote:On May 29 2011 11:44 moopie wrote:On May 29 2011 11:21 Mortality wrote:
2 times semifinal or higher in a row and people still think Hydra's "just a fluke?" Kind of want to see FBH, Horang2, and Light in low PR spots. Bogus was pretty good. 1-0 over both Dong and Sea and 1-1 with Soulkey, but 0-1 to Hydra, 0-1 to Bisu, 0-2 to FBH tells me he should be behind those guys. He essentially ZvZ'd all the way to his first title ( 1), having gotten lucky to not run into good terrans. His win vs JD was noteworthy, but then again JD's ZvZ is no longer immortal either. In his second run he arranged for himself to have a (mostly) safe trip to the ro8 by sticking Flash/JD/Bisu in group D (which is not a very champion-like thing to do). He did beat Stork (which wasn't bad, I'll admit), and then Mind. While I certainly don't think Hydra is a bad player (in fact I don't know that anyone does) I also don't think he's S-class or anything, though he is certainly hyped as such by certain people. If he manages to convincingly beat Flash in mechanics/gameplay (not just relying on ling all-in/2-hatch lurks/etc) I'll likely be changing my tune. i just realized he might put stork and bisu into flash's group if he wins and fuck up the next msl And if Flash wins, perhaps he'll stick Bisu and great into Hydra's group to let Bisu get some revenge.
are flash and bisu good friends? doesnt flash practice with cj zergs?
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On May 29 2011 11:56 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 11:54 vishrut wrote:On May 29 2011 11:44 moopie wrote:On May 29 2011 11:21 Mortality wrote:
2 times semifinal or higher in a row and people still think Hydra's "just a fluke?" Kind of want to see FBH, Horang2, and Light in low PR spots. Bogus was pretty good. 1-0 over both Dong and Sea and 1-1 with Soulkey, but 0-1 to Hydra, 0-1 to Bisu, 0-2 to FBH tells me he should be behind those guys. He essentially ZvZ'd all the way to his first title ( 1), having gotten lucky to not run into good terrans. His win vs JD was noteworthy, but then again JD's ZvZ is no longer immortal either. In his second run he arranged for himself to have a (mostly) safe trip to the ro8 by sticking Flash/JD/Bisu in group D (which is not a very champion-like thing to do). He did beat Stork (which wasn't bad, I'll admit), and then Mind. While I certainly don't think Hydra is a bad player (in fact I don't know that anyone does) I also don't think he's S-class or anything, though he is certainly hyped as such by certain people. If he manages to convincingly beat Flash in mechanics/gameplay (not just relying on ling all-in/2-hatch lurks/etc) I'll likely be changing my tune. i just realized he might put stork and bisu into flash's group if he wins and fuck up the next msl And if Flash wins, perhaps he'll stick Bisu and great into Hydra's group to let Bisu get some revenge.
I think Flash putting Hydra on his group is more likely to happen. Just saying.
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On May 29 2011 12:11 agarangu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 11:56 moopie wrote:On May 29 2011 11:54 vishrut wrote:On May 29 2011 11:44 moopie wrote:On May 29 2011 11:21 Mortality wrote:
2 times semifinal or higher in a row and people still think Hydra's "just a fluke?" Kind of want to see FBH, Horang2, and Light in low PR spots. Bogus was pretty good. 1-0 over both Dong and Sea and 1-1 with Soulkey, but 0-1 to Hydra, 0-1 to Bisu, 0-2 to FBH tells me he should be behind those guys. He essentially ZvZ'd all the way to his first title ( 1), having gotten lucky to not run into good terrans. His win vs JD was noteworthy, but then again JD's ZvZ is no longer immortal either. In his second run he arranged for himself to have a (mostly) safe trip to the ro8 by sticking Flash/JD/Bisu in group D (which is not a very champion-like thing to do). He did beat Stork (which wasn't bad, I'll admit), and then Mind. While I certainly don't think Hydra is a bad player (in fact I don't know that anyone does) I also don't think he's S-class or anything, though he is certainly hyped as such by certain people. If he manages to convincingly beat Flash in mechanics/gameplay (not just relying on ling all-in/2-hatch lurks/etc) I'll likely be changing my tune. i just realized he might put stork and bisu into flash's group if he wins and fuck up the next msl And if Flash wins, perhaps he'll stick Bisu and great into Hydra's group to let Bisu get some revenge. I think Flash putting Hydra on his group is more likely to happen. Just saying.
He can't, they're both seeded (same reason why Hydra couldn't move Stork to group D last time).
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On May 29 2011 12:11 agarangu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 11:56 moopie wrote:On May 29 2011 11:54 vishrut wrote:On May 29 2011 11:44 moopie wrote:On May 29 2011 11:21 Mortality wrote:
2 times semifinal or higher in a row and people still think Hydra's "just a fluke?" Kind of want to see FBH, Horang2, and Light in low PR spots. Bogus was pretty good. 1-0 over both Dong and Sea and 1-1 with Soulkey, but 0-1 to Hydra, 0-1 to Bisu, 0-2 to FBH tells me he should be behind those guys. He essentially ZvZ'd all the way to his first title ( 1), having gotten lucky to not run into good terrans. His win vs JD was noteworthy, but then again JD's ZvZ is no longer immortal either. In his second run he arranged for himself to have a (mostly) safe trip to the ro8 by sticking Flash/JD/Bisu in group D (which is not a very champion-like thing to do). He did beat Stork (which wasn't bad, I'll admit), and then Mind. While I certainly don't think Hydra is a bad player (in fact I don't know that anyone does) I also don't think he's S-class or anything, though he is certainly hyped as such by certain people. If he manages to convincingly beat Flash in mechanics/gameplay (not just relying on ling all-in/2-hatch lurks/etc) I'll likely be changing my tune. i just realized he might put stork and bisu into flash's group if he wins and fuck up the next msl And if Flash wins, perhaps he'll stick Bisu and great into Hydra's group to let Bisu get some revenge. I think Flash putting Hydra on his group is more likely to happen. Just saying.
I disagree because that's impossible. Hydra is seeded.
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On May 29 2011 11:44 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 11:21 Mortality wrote:
2 times semifinal or higher in a row and people still think Hydra's "just a fluke?" Kind of want to see FBH, Horang2, and Light in low PR spots. Bogus was pretty good. 1-0 over both Dong and Sea and 1-1 with Soulkey, but 0-1 to Hydra, 0-1 to Bisu, 0-2 to FBH tells me he should be behind those guys. He essentially ZvZ'd all the way to his first title ( 1), having gotten lucky to not run into good terrans. His win vs JD was noteworthy, but then again JD's ZvZ is no longer immortal either. In his second run (so far) he arranged for himself to have a (mostly) safe trip to the ro8 by sticking Flash/JD/Bisu in group D (which is not a very champion-like thing to do). He beat a slumping Stork (which wasn't bad, I'll admit) and then Mind. While I certainly don't think Hydra is a bad player (in fact I don't know that anyone does) I also don't think he's S-class or anything, though he is certainly hyped as such by certain people. If he manages to convincingly beat Flash in mechanics/gameplay (not just relying on ling all-in/2-hatch lurks/etc) I'll likely be changing my tune.
Firstly, I disagree with anyone who says that just because you get through a SL on only one match means you haven't earned the title. Secondly, during that time and since that time the only "question" has been his ZvT, which is third best in the world.
So basically, people are doubting the abilities of a player who is #3 ZvT, #2 ZvZ (ELO still ranks Shine as #2, but Shine has only ZvZ'd twice so far in 2011 -- that rating is based off his streak in December of last year), and either #2 or #3 ZvP, who has been ranked as the #2 Zerg for about 6 months, and even got the nod from Bisu in "if you were a manager, what team would you want to manage, choose 2 of each race?" He hasn't proven himself as S-class -- YET -- but he's most definitely in the upper reaches of A.
Seems to me like just a lot of fanboy hate for wrecking TBLS dominance two seasons running.
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On May 29 2011 14:15 Mortality wrote:
Seems to me like just a lot of fanboy hate for wrecking TBLS dominance two seasons running.
Cowardly sticking the best of the best in a group so they'll be forced to eliminate each other because you're afraid of facing them (and want to secure an easy seed instead) isn't exactly wrecking dominance. That's the main reason people don't think of him as a true champion.
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On May 29 2011 14:40 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 14:15 Mortality wrote:
Seems to me like just a lot of fanboy hate for wrecking TBLS dominance two seasons running. Cowardly sticking the best of the best in a group so they'll be forced to eliminate each other because you're afraid of facing them (and want to secure an easy seed instead) isn't exactly wrecking dominance. That's the main reason people don't think of him as a true champion.
Which is a stupid reason, quite honestly, as it has nothing to do with what he did last season nor does it have anything to do with the impressiveness of his run this season. Do remember that he allowed Light in his own group, which for a Zerg player is hardly such a cowardly thing to do. It's true that he knew he was getting rid of one member of TBLS, but methinks that the real reason he did it was because he could. And then laugh about it. Viewed from a different light he was sending them a message.
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On May 29 2011 12:20 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 12:11 agarangu wrote:On May 29 2011 11:56 moopie wrote:On May 29 2011 11:54 vishrut wrote:On May 29 2011 11:44 moopie wrote:On May 29 2011 11:21 Mortality wrote:
2 times semifinal or higher in a row and people still think Hydra's "just a fluke?" Kind of want to see FBH, Horang2, and Light in low PR spots. Bogus was pretty good. 1-0 over both Dong and Sea and 1-1 with Soulkey, but 0-1 to Hydra, 0-1 to Bisu, 0-2 to FBH tells me he should be behind those guys. He essentially ZvZ'd all the way to his first title ( 1), having gotten lucky to not run into good terrans. His win vs JD was noteworthy, but then again JD's ZvZ is no longer immortal either. In his second run he arranged for himself to have a (mostly) safe trip to the ro8 by sticking Flash/JD/Bisu in group D (which is not a very champion-like thing to do). He did beat Stork (which wasn't bad, I'll admit), and then Mind. While I certainly don't think Hydra is a bad player (in fact I don't know that anyone does) I also don't think he's S-class or anything, though he is certainly hyped as such by certain people. If he manages to convincingly beat Flash in mechanics/gameplay (not just relying on ling all-in/2-hatch lurks/etc) I'll likely be changing my tune. i just realized he might put stork and bisu into flash's group if he wins and fuck up the next msl And if Flash wins, perhaps he'll stick Bisu and great into Hydra's group to let Bisu get some revenge. I think Flash putting Hydra on his group is more likely to happen. Just saying. He can't, they're both seeded (same reason why Hydra couldn't move Stork to group D last time).
Bisu and Great aren't. He can put Sea, Bisu, Hydra and Great in the same group.
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On May 29 2011 15:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 12:20 moopie wrote:On May 29 2011 12:11 agarangu wrote:On May 29 2011 11:56 moopie wrote:On May 29 2011 11:54 vishrut wrote:On May 29 2011 11:44 moopie wrote:On May 29 2011 11:21 Mortality wrote:
2 times semifinal or higher in a row and people still think Hydra's "just a fluke?" Kind of want to see FBH, Horang2, and Light in low PR spots. Bogus was pretty good. 1-0 over both Dong and Sea and 1-1 with Soulkey, but 0-1 to Hydra, 0-1 to Bisu, 0-2 to FBH tells me he should be behind those guys. He essentially ZvZ'd all the way to his first title ( 1), having gotten lucky to not run into good terrans. His win vs JD was noteworthy, but then again JD's ZvZ is no longer immortal either. In his second run he arranged for himself to have a (mostly) safe trip to the ro8 by sticking Flash/JD/Bisu in group D (which is not a very champion-like thing to do). He did beat Stork (which wasn't bad, I'll admit), and then Mind. While I certainly don't think Hydra is a bad player (in fact I don't know that anyone does) I also don't think he's S-class or anything, though he is certainly hyped as such by certain people. If he manages to convincingly beat Flash in mechanics/gameplay (not just relying on ling all-in/2-hatch lurks/etc) I'll likely be changing my tune. i just realized he might put stork and bisu into flash's group if he wins and fuck up the next msl And if Flash wins, perhaps he'll stick Bisu and great into Hydra's group to let Bisu get some revenge. I think Flash putting Hydra on his group is more likely to happen. Just saying. He can't, they're both seeded (same reason why Hydra couldn't move Stork to group D last time). Bisu and Great aren't. He can put Sea, Bisu, Hydra and Great in the same group.
Did you not see my message that you quoted? I already said that. :3
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It was greatly embedded in the quote pyramid 
But atleast I mentioned Sea! Sea's important too.
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I wouldn't do that to Sea, poor guy doesn't need another group of (lesser) death.
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On May 29 2011 15:04 Mortality wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 14:40 moopie wrote:On May 29 2011 14:15 Mortality wrote:
Seems to me like just a lot of fanboy hate for wrecking TBLS dominance two seasons running. Cowardly sticking the best of the best in a group so they'll be forced to eliminate each other because you're afraid of facing them (and want to secure an easy seed instead) isn't exactly wrecking dominance. That's the main reason people don't think of him as a true champion. Which is a stupid reason, quite honestly, as it has nothing to do with what he did last season nor does it have anything to do with the impressiveness of his run this season. Do remember that he allowed Light in his own group, which for a Zerg player is hardly such a cowardly thing to do. It's true that he knew he was getting rid of one member of TBLS, but methinks that the real reason he did it was because he could. And then laugh about it. Viewed from a different light he was sending them a message.
That the era of TBLS is coming to an end?
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