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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
April 07 2011 14:48 GMT
#161
msl group selection spoilers:

+ Show Spoiler +
sea for #1 next month when he 2-0's his hilarious group
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 16:26:04
April 07 2011 16:24 GMT
#162
On April 07 2011 15:34 Oystein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 07:10 Mortality wrote:
IMO Flash's TvT is the most impressive match-up of any current player. Both in terms of quality of play, my feelings about their skills (Bisu tends to be a bit more metagame and map dependent) and statistics (comparable statistics for this season even with those god awful matches in MSL; Flash has higher lifetime -- also highest current AND lifetime ELO of any player in any match-up, not to mention a much longer streak: 17 consecutive TvT wins from 12/19/2010 until 3/22/2011).

Currently Zerg players are struggling with Bisu's revised timing (which forced JD to sunken up more than is ideal) as well as well as the fact that the map pool plays pretty strongly to Bisu's strengths as a player. I do think his PvZ is amazing. His corsair play is pure art. Take a look at that moving shot use in his game against Jaedong while CLONED scourges chase him around. Ridiculous. In order to get control of that match-up JD needed to delay Bisu's third but he couldn't.

While Flash is getting better results (note winstreak, elo etc) Bisu is having very similar long term winrates in PvZ. If we compare their winrates from the start of 2010 and 2009 until now they show up with 2009-now Flash 76.98% with Bisu lagging slightly behind with 74.47%. Now if we look from 2010-now Bisu is actually ahead with 78% vs 76.62%, for 2011 Flash is crushing with 93% against Bisus 85%.


edit: derp, just realized you were comparing flash's TvT to Bisu's PvZ, not his TvZ.
Remember Violet.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
April 07 2011 16:32 GMT
#163
On April 07 2011 23:48 sixfour wrote:
msl group selection spoilers:

+ Show Spoiler +
sea for #1 next month when he 2-0's his hilarious group

+ Show Spoiler +
Hydra and great for #1 next month for quickly eliminating at least one of Bisu, Jaedong, Flash
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
April 07 2011 19:50 GMT
#164
I now hate Hydra. Hate.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
April 09 2011 14:15 GMT
#165
k I guess Bisu can be #5 now
Writer
Psyqo
Profile Joined November 2007
United States401 Posts
April 09 2011 17:32 GMT
#166
Sorry, I'm not sure where else this comment should go, but... how long until we see an SC2 Power Rank? I imagine it is much harder to place both foreigners and Koreans in the same set of 10 top players, but TL has never disappointed before so I'm looking forward to the day we see one.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
April 09 2011 18:19 GMT
#167
On April 10 2011 02:32 Psyqo wrote:
Sorry, I'm not sure where else this comment should go, but... how long until we see an SC2 Power Rank? I imagine it is much harder to place both foreigners and Koreans in the same set of 10 top players, but TL has never disappointed before so I'm looking forward to the day we see one.


There's no real sense in doing an SC2 power rank until things settle down a bit. Have patience.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
April 09 2011 18:22 GMT
#168
I think April 21 is going to be a very big day for this month's PR.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 09 2011 18:50 GMT
#169
On April 10 2011 03:22 Lightwip wrote:
I think April 21 is going to be a very big day for this month's PR.

The biggest!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 09 2011 19:22 GMT
#170
On April 10 2011 02:32 Psyqo wrote:
Sorry, I'm not sure where else this comment should go, but... how long until we see an SC2 Power Rank? I imagine it is much harder to place both foreigners and Koreans in the same set of 10 top players, but TL has never disappointed before so I'm looking forward to the day we see one.


It was about 5 years before TL got their first BW power rank, I don't think SC2 is getting too poor a look right now.
Remember Violet.
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
April 09 2011 20:15 GMT
#171
Bisu is 2-0 so far this month. His victories are Jaedong and Flash.

4/21 Bisu, I believe! 2-0 your group of death!
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
April 10 2011 05:19 GMT
#172
Bisu looked incredible in his games against both Flash and Jaedong. Wow. When is this man going to win another individual title?
May the BeSt man win.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 07:42:22
April 10 2011 07:34 GMT
#173
On April 10 2011 05:15 Crisium wrote:
Bisu is 2-0 so far this month. His victories are Jaedong and Flash.

4/21 Bisu, I believe! 2-0 your group of death!

That would be sick, if nothing else because Bisu allways disappoints in individual leagues these days.

id hate to admit it but hisgame against flash was sick and took advantage of the small opening flash left him.
In the woods, there lurks..
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 10 2011 09:12 GMT
#174
Bad Power Rankings. Your original one was much better imo.
God Bless
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 10 2011 14:22 GMT
#175
On April 10 2011 18:12 Roffles wrote:
Bad Power Rankings. Your original one was much better imo.

I'm so glad you can come around each month to tell me this.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
April 10 2011 17:29 GMT
#176
On April 10 2011 18:12 Roffles wrote:
Bad Power Rankings. Your original one was much better imo.


B P R Y... no hidden message :/
Writer
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
April 11 2011 09:58 GMT
#177
I'm so embarrassed to admit I've not been watching too much BW lately, but from what I've seen I completely agree with the power rank.
<3 you flamewheel.
wat
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 17:11:48
April 12 2011 17:11 GMT
#178
On April 10 2011 14:19 Djabanete wrote:
Bisu looked incredible in his games against both Flash and Jaedong. Wow. When is this man going to win another individual title?

as long as its not osl maybe this season? i can see him grabbing an msl
RIP Aaliyah
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
April 12 2011 17:42 GMT
#179
On April 13 2011 02:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 14:19 Djabanete wrote:
Bisu looked incredible in his games against both Flash and Jaedong. Wow. When is this man going to win another individual title?

as long as its not osl maybe this season? i can see him grabbing an msl


Has to get through the group of Flash/JD/Sea first. TBH, I don't think anyone can talk about probable MSL winners until that group shakes out.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 18:52:31
April 12 2011 18:51 GMT
#180
On April 10 2011 02:32 Psyqo wrote:
Sorry, I'm not sure where else this comment should go, but... how long until we see an SC2 Power Rank? I imagine it is much harder to place both foreigners and Koreans in the same set of 10 top players, but TL has never disappointed before so I'm looking forward to the day we see one.


It probably won't happen until all the leagues solidify (an International League, perhaps?).
The BW power rank didn't first occur until 2006 with Savior, long after the beginnings of TL. On top of that, all of the BW pro games are concentrated in S.Korea with a tight pool of players. As of now, we have to worry about North American, European, AND Asian players, all without consistent ways to measure their skill against one another due to the various leagues out there.
So close, and yet so far
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