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nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
March 01 2011 02:35 GMT
#21
Good rank. I'm fine with Action not making the rank this time… he's been too weak for too long for this spurt to mean something. I think he'll settle into a ~55% player for the rest of the year.

Of course, there is a small chance he'll turn into a zerg Stats, which would be sweet.
Zaxro
Profile Joined November 2009
United States261 Posts
March 01 2011 03:09 GMT
#22
On March 01 2011 09:43 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 09:39 Zaxro wrote:
I'm a JD fan but the absolute highest I would place him would be #6 (I think he is a better player than Hiya, but Hiya is "hotter" this month so him being above JD is reasonable).

I don't think anybody is implying HiyA is an overall better player than JD, but he still went 10-4 in SWL last month whereas and JD went 4-3. In fact, if it wasn't for JD having "JD status", he wouldn't be on the list at all with a score like that this month since so many other players have had a better month. I do think HiyA over JD is the right call now.

Yeah thats why I said the highest I would put JD would be #6. By that I meant that even if I give JD the maximum amount of "points" I can for "JD Status" I still wouldn't put him in the top five on PR. For this month I agree that HiyA should be above him (#6 is where I'd put HiyA as well, my top 5 would be the same 5 people but in a slightly different order). HiyA's record is great, and he does have some legacy of being very good at certain points in the past (Honestly he may be the most inconsistant player right now; during the summer he was beating Flash and Effort in incredible games, and was playing really good in general, he was in the top 10 Elo at several points in 2010) which really helps make up for horrible he was doing earlier in the season.
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
March 01 2011 03:26 GMT
#23
That Nony build by Stork brings back gooooooood memories of TSL2.

Fuck yeah Stork
Jaedong plz
FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
March 01 2011 03:42 GMT
#24
3 Oz out of 9?
You should just go with your gut and just put Movie/Action/Kal in the list
All walls are great if the roof doesn't fall
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
March 01 2011 04:01 GMT
#25
HOLY OZ! .. now thats a solid team!
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 04:29:02
March 01 2011 04:28 GMT
#26
My current favorite team of inconsistent players:

ZerO
hiYa
Really

and their mad overlord, Fantasy

The first 3 players have some of the most brilliant games on record and can absolutely smack hand with the S-class when they are on their games. When they are off, they will lose to FroZen in a pinch.

Fantasy simply takes this up a notch, in that both his win and loss streaks tend to last longer than the others, who just win and lose totally at random by playing brilliantly and making horrific mistakes.
the last wcs commissioner
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 04:30:04
March 01 2011 04:28 GMT
#27
I'm happy with your top seven plus its ordering, and Killer. Great though? He had one good game the entire month against Hydra. A real number 10 would have been nice too. If you were going to throw a spot away, why not give it to BByong for being awesome?

This must have felt like a breeze after January!
Sucker for nostalgia
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 04:37:34
March 01 2011 04:34 GMT
#28
On March 01 2011 10:13 agarangu wrote:
I like how stats is always in the PR, right after Flash (and every other player).


he is rather consistent.

On March 01 2011 13:28 tedster wrote:
My current favorite team of inconsistent players:

ZerO
hiYa
Really

and their mad overlord, Fantasy

The first 3 players have some of the most brilliant games on record and can absolutely smack hand with the S-class when they are on their games. When they are off, they will lose to FroZen in a pinch.

Fantasy simply takes this up a notch, in that both his win and loss streaks tend to last longer than the others, who just win and lose totally at random by playing brilliantly and making horrific mistakes.


Let's just say that being a Fantasy fans is a pretty wild ride. Every single game is a nailbiter since you never know what he's going to do next.
ESV Mapmaking!
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
March 01 2011 04:42 GMT
#29
This is one of the few PRs that I almost completely agree with. Not sure if that's good or bad.
But finally Bisu showed a better performance than Stork this month.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
March 01 2011 05:02 GMT
#30
On March 01 2011 09:38 Phradamon wrote:
One of the weakest PRs ever:
- (T)Fantasy should have been 2, (P)Stork above (P)Bisu since he beat him to death, and (P)Kal on PR instead of (T)HiyA.

1- (T)Flash
2- (T)Fantasy
3- (P)Stork
4- (Z)Hydra
5- (P)Bisu
6- (Z)Jaedong
7- (P)Kal
8- (Z)by.great
9- (Z)Killer
10- (P)Snow

Also (Z)Action has gone 6-1....


Why should Fantasy be 2..........

His accomplishments last month are DWARFED by Hydra's. Hydras ZvZ looked invincible until the post-championship curse struck (it appears to be gone by now)

You haven't been watching enough WL if you think HiyA doesn't deserve a spot.

The PR is perfectly fine, yours is bad though
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
March 01 2011 05:15 GMT
#31
LOLOLOLOLOL

I'm on the Power Rank TWICE!

That made my day. (Actually, considering how many people read this and what it is, I'm a tad embarrassed. Me next to top Korean pros who I respect? Damn. I better not ever go to Korea because I think I would be totally starstruck. And if I actually met NaDa I'd probably die from the power of his presence.)

On March 01 2011 11:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Also, while I like your penchant for punctuality, I don't think you should leave an incomplete rank just to be on time. A day late and complete is better in my book, but I'm sure a lot of folks will disagree.


Hey, hey! It's not incomplete! Can't you see I'm the tenth most powerful Starcraft player in the world?!

lol jk

(Although I actually kind of agree. I really got a kick out of seeing myself on there, but I think there are probably a lot of people thinking "Who the fuck is he?")
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 05:49:13
March 01 2011 05:37 GMT
#32
I think Movie deserves the #10 spot. Very small CBNC too.
Also, you should write a bit more about BByong or at least give a link, so people a year from now will understand if they ever come to read the PR.
The cake is being baked right now, it just needs to wait until the individual leagues start to finish. And then it will be a sweet treat for haters and fans alike when Flash fades into obscurity and Bisu takes his place at #1 forever.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
March 01 2011 05:37 GMT
#33
On March 01 2011 14:15 Mortality wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOL

I'm on the Power Rank TWICE!

That made my day. (Actually, considering how many people read this and what it is, I'm a tad embarrassed. Me next to top Korean pros who I respect? Damn. I better not ever go to Korea because I think I would be totally starstruck. And if I actually met NaDa I'd probably die from the power of his presence.)

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 11:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Also, while I like your penchant for punctuality, I don't think you should leave an incomplete rank just to be on time. A day late and complete is better in my book, but I'm sure a lot of folks will disagree.


Hey, hey! It's not incomplete! Can't you see I'm the tenth most powerful Starcraft player in the world?!

lol jk

(Although I actually kind of agree. I really got a kick out of seeing myself on there, but I think there are probably a lot of people thinking "Who the fuck is he?")


you took my ID...
PM me if you want random korean images translated.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
March 01 2011 05:48 GMT
#34
On March 01 2011 14:37 Lightwip wrote:
I think Movie deserves the #10 spot. Very small CBNC too.
Also, you should write a bit more about BByong or at least give a link, so people a year from now will understand if they ever come to read the PR.

Oh good idea, I'll just give the link.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
March 01 2011 06:02 GMT
#35
On March 01 2011 14:37 nitdkim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 14:15 Mortality wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOL

I'm on the Power Rank TWICE!

That made my day. (Actually, considering how many people read this and what it is, I'm a tad embarrassed. Me next to top Korean pros who I respect? Damn. I better not ever go to Korea because I think I would be totally starstruck. And if I actually met NaDa I'd probably die from the power of his presence.)

On March 01 2011 11:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Also, while I like your penchant for punctuality, I don't think you should leave an incomplete rank just to be on time. A day late and complete is better in my book, but I'm sure a lot of folks will disagree.


Hey, hey! It's not incomplete! Can't you see I'm the tenth most powerful Starcraft player in the world?!

lol jk

(Although I actually kind of agree. I really got a kick out of seeing myself on there, but I think there are probably a lot of people thinking "Who the fuck is he?")


you took my ID...


I've probably had this for longer.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
blue001
Profile Joined January 2009
106 Posts
March 01 2011 06:33 GMT
#36
Why does the writer say "lack of sample size"? I think it's more appropriate to say lack of games that showcase their skill (say they were all 6pools or all PvZ which is Bisu's best MU), because lack of sample size suggests that they played thousands of games in February, and since no one can watch them all, someone took a sample of some of their games to watch how well the player is doing. Correct me if I'm wrong but sample means you would watch a portion of a player's games to determine how well he's playing. If you watch all his games you know EXACTLY how well the player played that month. I like it when the writer talks about how well they played during their games such as saying Jaedong looked vulnerable against Snow even though he won rather than determining power rank through win:loss records against different players. This may be extreme but if a player had 0:10 but played brilliantly in terms of micro/macro and used different playstyles each game, that lasted over 40 minutes each where he barely loses each game, you could argue for this player to be on the power rank even without wins.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8032 Posts
March 01 2011 06:39 GMT
#37
Pretty solid Power Rank this month, imo. My only issue is with some of the later rankings such as great and killer, but that always happens since the bottom few are usually pretty close in terms of skill.
Liquipedia
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
March 01 2011 06:51 GMT
#38
Man I want to see what hydra can do against Flash. The guy can play some good starcraft
3OZ players on a single PR!? JD isn't the highest ranked one! What a weird ass month
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
March 01 2011 08:18 GMT
#39
On March 01 2011 15:33 blue001 wrote:
Why does the writer say "lack of sample size"? I think it's more appropriate to say lack of games that showcase their skill (say they were all 6pools or all PvZ which is Bisu's best MU), because lack of sample size suggests that they played thousands of games in February, and since no one can watch them all, someone took a sample of some of their games to watch how well the player is doing. Correct me if I'm wrong but sample means you would watch a portion of a player's games to determine how well he's playing. If you watch all his games you know EXACTLY how well the player played that month. I like it when the writer talks about how well they played during their games such as saying Jaedong looked vulnerable against Snow even though he won rather than determining power rank through win:loss records against different players. This may be extreme but if a player had 0:10 but played brilliantly in terms of micro/macro and used different playstyles each game, that lasted over 40 minutes each where he barely loses each game, you could argue for this player to be on the power rank even without wins.


You are wrong. Sample size just refers to the amount of data you have. It does not at all imply that you are taking a subset of known data elements, rather that this is the size of the amount of data you have to work with.

Our "sample" is televised games.

And tbh, I agree that a little more depth could have been given. For example, yes, JD looked vulnerable against Snow, but let's analyze that game a little from both perspectives: do you credit how close that game was to Snow's skill or JD's lack of skill? Having watched that game live, I was almost sure that Snow would win. His harassment was impeccable and if you were watching carefully, it's not because JD failed to deal with it but because Snow put so much concentration into his drops. Too much, actually, because the reason Snow lost is that he was unable to build up his army mass. Snow's drop control was excellent but his army control was a little less stellar and JD's army control was as close to perfect as you get. Hence how JD could wear Snow down even after losing ~50 drones to harassment.

On the whole, I agree with the list. Hell, it matches my own list so well I can't help but think that flamewheel was reading my post in last month's thread and nodding his head. and the changes from his list to mine I can climb on board with. My only criticism is that there are a few places where it seemed like flamewheel was just rushing to release the ranking and a couple of sentences might have made the ranking a bit stronger...
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
March 01 2011 08:19 GMT
#40
On March 01 2011 11:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:
You'd think with 3 players on the PR, Oz would be the most dominant team in WL.


Well, they are, almost, #2 behind KT
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