EPTWhy bring Flash and Hydra's history into this? Career-wise I won't argue that Flash is top 1 but if that is the case (ranking players based on play history) then I don't think we even need to debate the positions for the next 5 ranks...
Power Rank 02/01/2011 - Page 24
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Evs
Philippines330 Posts
Why bring Flash and Hydra's history into this? Career-wise I won't argue that Flash is top 1 but if that is the case (ranking players based on play history) then I don't think we even need to debate the positions for the next 5 ranks... | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
Killer has a better WL score than JD now. And he's tied with Fantasy. Yeah he needs a PR spot. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On February 23 2011 16:20 Lightwip wrote: Killer has a better WL score than JD now. That is just mind blowing. It makes no sense at all. O_o Is this a sign of how badly JD is slumping or of how good Killer is becoming? | ||
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mnesthes
5433 Posts
On February 23 2011 16:00 Evs wrote: Look, I don't want to rank players based on career history either, it's just there's no one scary enough to trump Flash's position right now. Hydra might have had the fear factor after winning the MSL but he then lost ZvZ to Killer and Action which blew pretty much of it.@mnesthes: eh? I thought that what matters most for the new power rank is the "last few weeks"? Why bring Flash and Hydra's history into this? Career-wise I won't argue that Flash is top 1 but if that is the case (ranking players based on play history) then I don't think we even need to debate the positions for the next 5 ranks... | ||
]343[
United States10328 Posts
On February 23 2011 16:19 flamewheel wrote: Killer is being troll clearly. cbnc for killer 6-10: zero snow? kal baby?? light?? sea? killer??? no individual league games means small sample sizes  | ||
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TheAwesomeAll
Netherlands1609 Posts
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
My thoughts: 1. Flash 2. fantasy 3. Bisu 4. Hydra 5. Stork 6. Jaedong 7. ZerO 8. Kal (currently 3-killing ACE) 9. Sea 10. Light Light is one of my favorite players, but I don't see him in top 10, his TvP is just terrible. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On February 23 2011 15:39 Evs wrote: My problem is on how the subjectivity weighs more. Not that I want the rank to reflect on pure statistics). Your original statement clearly points on that: stating that being a favorite in a "what-if" Bo5 match between Hydra and Flash right now would equate to a Flash victory. Such a leap of faith here. Specially since Flash has not played a BoX in months and it is in these intervening months that Hydra has shown an increase in BoX play. I will argue here again, just as I had argued for Fantasy when he got his OSL gold: why is the dominant playstyle that the champion displayed in the individual league less valued than in proleague? Yeah, Hydra showed an increase in BoX play... When he all he played were zergs. He hasn't even played against a terran in over a month. Flash, on the other hand, has won three Bo5s against arguably the best zerg player ever. He's been in SEVEN FINALS. You think that just because he hasn't made it to one in a bit he's going to somehow lose all that experience? | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On February 24 2011 01:23 GolemMadness wrote: Yeah, Hydra showed an increase in BoX play... When he all he played were zergs. He hasn't even played against a terran in over a month. Flash, on the other hand, has won three Bo5s against arguably the best zerg player ever. He's been in SEVEN FINALS. You think that just because he hasn't made it to one in a bit he's going to somehow lose all that experience? You just CANT say that! We are talking about this month! | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On February 24 2011 01:16 Yodo wrote: Light is one of my favorite players, but I don't see him in top 10, his TvP is just terrible. I second that. Light lost this month twice to PerfectMan. How can you lose to Perfectman and still get a spot on PR!? | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
flash is 18-2 Bonjwa is doing everything he can to continue his dominance after a few fluke losses 2 months ago but whatever if people want to put Hydra first do so, i can't be arsed to care that much anymore  imo Hydra need to prove that he can keep it up, because this time the other contester i playing superb. and whatever happens flash will probably just be #1 next month anyway so go on and argue for an incorrect powerrank lol | ||
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FakePlasticLove
United States357 Posts
Also Kal still stucks, all his wins come from playing ACE. 1. Flash 2. Hydra 3. Bisu 4. Fantasy 5. Stork 6. Jaedong 7. ZerO 8. Killer 9. Hiya 10. Great | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On February 24 2011 12:13 FakePlasticLove wrote: Killer, Hiya, JD in the ranking? Also Kal still stucks, all his wins come from playing ACE. 1. Flash 2. Hydra 3. Bisu 4. Fantasy 5. Stork 6. Jaedong 7. ZerO 8. Killer 9. Hiya 10. Great Pretty nice ranking, though I'd put Hydra above Flash because taking the grand slam does mean quite a bit. He may have lost in a not-so-great fashion afterwards, but keeping it together long enough to get a title means quite a bit. | ||
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Goragoth
New Zealand1065 Posts
So what I'm saying is that if nothing else, at least use the little bit of subjectivity built into the PR to throw a bone to the Protoss and Zerg supporters out there once in a while to make them feel like this game isn't just about the one wunderkind Terran player. Please. | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
On February 24 2011 13:55 Goragoth wrote: So what I'm saying is that if nothing else, at least use the little bit of subjectivity built into the PR to throw a bone to the Protoss and Zerg supporters out there once in a while to make them feel like this game isn't just about the one wunderkind Terran player. Please. So you're saying that the Power Rank should be less of a ranking of actual performance and more of a wish list? | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On February 24 2011 13:55 Goragoth wrote: Every time someone suggests that Flash might not be #1 a million fanboys come out screaming about how great Flash is. We get it. He's the best damn player in the world and has been for over a year now. It's still nice to celebrate other players and not just leave Flash in #1 for 12+ months straight or whatever. Go look at Elo/KeSPA if you want that. As a Zerg supporter I can say that seeing the same Terran in the #1 spot all the damn time is making me kind of hate the game. I barely watched any BW all of 2010 because it was all Flash all the time, and I found it hugely refreshing to see some variety this year. I know that if Flash takes dual golds again next season I'll probably stop caring about BW once again and just keep an eye on things for the time when Flash finally falls from his throne. So what I'm saying is that if nothing else, at least use the little bit of subjectivity built into the PR to throw a bone to the Protoss and Zerg supporters out there once in a while to make them feel like this game isn't just about the one wunderkind Terran player. Please. What? The point of the power rank is who's the performing the best out there, not "Let's give this guy a high rank just for fun." Incidentally, kinda funny how you complain about Flash fans saying that he's the best (when you admit that he is) and then go on to rant about how much you hate it when he wins. Yeah, nobody does that. | ||
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Goragoth
New Zealand1065 Posts
On February 24 2011 18:16 okum wrote: So you're saying that the Power Rank should be less of a ranking of actual performance and more of a wish list? It is plainly obvious that I'm not saying that at all. If the PR was just about who the best player in the world is then Flash would have been #1 for the last 12 month or more. Since he was not, it is easy to conclude that the PR is about more than just who the best player is and also about performance and achievements over the last month or so. Using this well established criteria it is easy to place Hydra at #1 this month over Flash even though we all know Flash is the best in the world. Unless you are saying that the PR has been rubbish every month over the last year where Flash wasn't #1 and that you have some sort of authority over determining what a valid PR should look like (hint: only the PR writer has that). Anyway, the month isn't over yet, but unless we see Hydra losing games other than ZvZ build order losses he should (IMO) be #1 next month. | ||
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