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On January 10 2011 15:46 J1.au wrote:
Kal should never ever be ranked above Flash and Jaedong. When Kal faces top competition he fails 70% of the time. Flash and Jaedong outclass Kal in every possible way. When Kal advances in a league it's because he's avoided a strong Zerg or Terran player. His win over Flash is a perfect example of why I dislike him. When the map is good, when the spawn position is good, when the stars align Kal can win a game. Otherwise he's screwed.
Kal shouldn't be rewarded for getting lucky.
Kal has changed. PR writer saw that.
It's not like 5 random zergs 6-10 and no zero.
Drowner will own everybody in 2011, You'll see.
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On January 10 2011 22:09 L0thar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2011 12:38 blade55555 wrote:On January 10 2011 10:41 L0thar wrote:
It's quite funny, I was actually pretty content with Flash rank, #5 seemed quite good for a person out of both leagues, however dominant he was before. I didn't even see the need to discuss it.
But after some thinking, it's making less and less sense. There wasn't really any serious doubt about Flash skill, even in the writing about him is written he is still considered bonjwa. And rightfully so, only fool would consider Flash done after couple of losses, even when they happened at a critical time. I know haters are eager to proclaime "X is slumping" at every opportunity, it happened to Flash before, after the poweroutage finals or loss to Effort in OSL, but c'mon people, he only came back stronger than before.
So why was he dropped? Well, most sensible answer is that he lacked results and that's fine. But...who has some actuall results this month? Believe it or not, but after the end of the season there will be at most 2 people with a title. Stork, Bisu, Kal, Jaedong...at least two of those people will accomplish in individual leagues the same shit like Flash, nothing (individual leagues really aren't about second places, just ask Yellow).
If you look back, there is nobody coming even close to Flash and if you look at present then, well, nobody has done anything yet. For example Bisu may very well be out of MSL soon, so his only accomplishment would be getting one round higher than Flash...and that's it.
I totally agree Flash deserves to be dropped, but he should be dropped AFTER somebody actually accomplish something more than him. The PR should be based on what players done, not what they may or may not do. All the players ranked higher than Flash merely managed to secure a chance to outdone Flash, they haven't outdone him yet (and as I said, at least two of them will be left titleless again). There is a reason its called the monthly power ranking not yearly or anything so yes flash should have been dropped no matter what this month. No, it's called Power Rank, not Monthly Power Rank, I have no idea where this misconception came from. One of the first power ranks feature Savior at #1 right after he got destoyed by Bisu. Then later there is also Bisu #1 and Mind at #5, right after Bisu lost to him in MSL finals. And I could go on with people ranked higher despite achieving inferior results that last month. If you wanna argue that every writer has different criteria and flamewheel is aiming for more dynamic PR, I'm fine with that, but don't call it monthly power ranking because it's never been that! Also in that case, I see no reason why Flash shouldn't place much higher in next PR if he displays great play and results in WL...which is thing against which some people here argued too.
Maybe because its updated once a month with recent stats? Flash does not deserve #1 even if you think he feels "scarier" sorry he failed in both individual leagues I still don't understand why you think he deserves #1 :S. While I don't agree with all the rankings this month it was done better considering all the fan boys crying atm.
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Let's lay out the problem the PR writer faces:
- I'm going to rank the top ten Starcraft progamers.
- I'm going to do it (approximately) once a month.
- I have to consider that most progamers have the opportunity to qualify for or play in three different leagues.
And based on history we assume: Except near finals time (Ro8 onwards) for the individual leagues, it's virtually a given that top players (the ones I'm worried about ranking), will be playing regularly at least two leagues.
So now we have an anomaly: the best player for the previous year, who still seems to be playing well enough to be considered potentially the best player - is down to one league after losing games to scrubs and not-as-good players (hi, Kal). So no matter the general level of play, this best player (yes, Flash), despite phenomenal play in proleague, doesn't fit our general assumption of what a best player should do. If we only look at what happened in the last month, you have a record that looks like stereotypical Sea: great proleague, progress to a point in starleagues and then fail. And Sea with last month's Flash record would get a 7-10 spot. I'm guessing.
So no, the PR isn't "just a monthly ranking" - Flash fell "only" to five based on his previous record of dominance (and with Kal now flailing and failing, it looks like a better rank, despite Kal's head to had over Flash, would have been Stork, Bisu, Jaedong, Flash, Kal, etc). But I don't see a huge difference between four and five, and after the massive fail Flash pulled off I don't see how you could keep him in the top three, with Stork, Bisu, and Jaedong all playing at a high level.
I mean, I don't know what I would have done, but I can't fault flamewheel for pretty much anything about the rank (except maybe putting Hydra over Calm, and that's a different argument).
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On January 11 2011 04:27 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2011 22:09 L0thar wrote:On January 10 2011 12:38 blade55555 wrote:On January 10 2011 10:41 L0thar wrote:
It's quite funny, I was actually pretty content with Flash rank, #5 seemed quite good for a person out of both leagues, however dominant he was before. I didn't even see the need to discuss it.
But after some thinking, it's making less and less sense. There wasn't really any serious doubt about Flash skill, even in the writing about him is written he is still considered bonjwa. And rightfully so, only fool would consider Flash done after couple of losses, even when they happened at a critical time. I know haters are eager to proclaime "X is slumping" at every opportunity, it happened to Flash before, after the poweroutage finals or loss to Effort in OSL, but c'mon people, he only came back stronger than before.
So why was he dropped? Well, most sensible answer is that he lacked results and that's fine. But...who has some actuall results this month? Believe it or not, but after the end of the season there will be at most 2 people with a title. Stork, Bisu, Kal, Jaedong...at least two of those people will accomplish in individual leagues the same shit like Flash, nothing (individual leagues really aren't about second places, just ask Yellow).
If you look back, there is nobody coming even close to Flash and if you look at present then, well, nobody has done anything yet. For example Bisu may very well be out of MSL soon, so his only accomplishment would be getting one round higher than Flash...and that's it.
I totally agree Flash deserves to be dropped, but he should be dropped AFTER somebody actually accomplish something more than him. The PR should be based on what players done, not what they may or may not do. All the players ranked higher than Flash merely managed to secure a chance to outdone Flash, they haven't outdone him yet (and as I said, at least two of them will be left titleless again). There is a reason its called the monthly power ranking not yearly or anything so yes flash should have been dropped no matter what this month. No, it's called Power Rank, not Monthly Power Rank, I have no idea where this misconception came from. One of the first power ranks feature Savior at #1 right after he got destoyed by Bisu. Then later there is also Bisu #1 and Mind at #5, right after Bisu lost to him in MSL finals. And I could go on with people ranked higher despite achieving inferior results that last month. If you wanna argue that every writer has different criteria and flamewheel is aiming for more dynamic PR, I'm fine with that, but don't call it monthly power ranking because it's never been that! Also in that case, I see no reason why Flash shouldn't place much higher in next PR if he displays great play and results in WL...which is thing against which some people here argued too. Maybe because its updated once a month with recent stats? Flash does not deserve #1 even if you think he feels "scarier" sorry he failed in both individual leagues I still don't understand why you think he deserves #1 :S. While I don't agree with all the rankings this month it was done better considering all the fan boys crying atm.
So is Kespa ranking, that argument really doesn't hold.
Tbh I don't really care about Flash placement that much, as I wrote I was completely fine with that at first, because the logic "drop both leagues -> drop in PR" seems crystal clear. But then I stopped thinking about Flash and started thinking about people ranked higher then him...and to my surprise I really couldn't think of the reason why are they higher. They did nothing significant to deserve such placement...yet.
But the "monthly" argument really needs to go, it has no place here.
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On January 11 2011 04:56 L0thar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 04:27 blade55555 wrote:On January 10 2011 22:09 L0thar wrote:On January 10 2011 12:38 blade55555 wrote:On January 10 2011 10:41 L0thar wrote:
It's quite funny, I was actually pretty content with Flash rank, #5 seemed quite good for a person out of both leagues, however dominant he was before. I didn't even see the need to discuss it.
But after some thinking, it's making less and less sense. There wasn't really any serious doubt about Flash skill, even in the writing about him is written he is still considered bonjwa. And rightfully so, only fool would consider Flash done after couple of losses, even when they happened at a critical time. I know haters are eager to proclaime "X is slumping" at every opportunity, it happened to Flash before, after the poweroutage finals or loss to Effort in OSL, but c'mon people, he only came back stronger than before.
So why was he dropped? Well, most sensible answer is that he lacked results and that's fine. But...who has some actuall results this month? Believe it or not, but after the end of the season there will be at most 2 people with a title. Stork, Bisu, Kal, Jaedong...at least two of those people will accomplish in individual leagues the same shit like Flash, nothing (individual leagues really aren't about second places, just ask Yellow).
If you look back, there is nobody coming even close to Flash and if you look at present then, well, nobody has done anything yet. For example Bisu may very well be out of MSL soon, so his only accomplishment would be getting one round higher than Flash...and that's it.
I totally agree Flash deserves to be dropped, but he should be dropped AFTER somebody actually accomplish something more than him. The PR should be based on what players done, not what they may or may not do. All the players ranked higher than Flash merely managed to secure a chance to outdone Flash, they haven't outdone him yet (and as I said, at least two of them will be left titleless again). There is a reason its called the monthly power ranking not yearly or anything so yes flash should have been dropped no matter what this month. No, it's called Power Rank, not Monthly Power Rank, I have no idea where this misconception came from. One of the first power ranks feature Savior at #1 right after he got destoyed by Bisu. Then later there is also Bisu #1 and Mind at #5, right after Bisu lost to him in MSL finals. And I could go on with people ranked higher despite achieving inferior results that last month. If you wanna argue that every writer has different criteria and flamewheel is aiming for more dynamic PR, I'm fine with that, but don't call it monthly power ranking because it's never been that! Also in that case, I see no reason why Flash shouldn't place much higher in next PR if he displays great play and results in WL...which is thing against which some people here argued too. Maybe because its updated once a month with recent stats? Flash does not deserve #1 even if you think he feels "scarier" sorry he failed in both individual leagues I still don't understand why you think he deserves #1 :S. While I don't agree with all the rankings this month it was done better considering all the fan boys crying atm. So is Kespa ranking, that argument really doesn't hold. Tbh I don't really care about Flash placement that much, as I wrote I was completely fine with that at first, because the logic "drop both leagues -> drop in PR" seems crystal clear. But then I stopped thinking about Flash and started thinking about people ranked higher then him...and to my surprise I really couldn't think of the reason why are they higher. They did nothing significant to deserve such placement...yet. But the "monthly" argument really needs to go, it has no place here.
Its been like this for a while. When Jaedong and Flash has been trading #1 and #2, it was pretty much purely based on monthly result, whoever did slightly better got the number one spot. This is also the December power rank. So it puts more emphasis on December.
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On January 10 2011 22:09 L0thar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2011 12:38 blade55555 wrote:On January 10 2011 10:41 L0thar wrote:
It's quite funny, I was actually pretty content with Flash rank, #5 seemed quite good for a person out of both leagues, however dominant he was before. I didn't even see the need to discuss it.
But after some thinking, it's making less and less sense. There wasn't really any serious doubt about Flash skill, even in the writing about him is written he is still considered bonjwa. And rightfully so, only fool would consider Flash done after couple of losses, even when they happened at a critical time. I know haters are eager to proclaime "X is slumping" at every opportunity, it happened to Flash before, after the poweroutage finals or loss to Effort in OSL, but c'mon people, he only came back stronger than before.
So why was he dropped? Well, most sensible answer is that he lacked results and that's fine. But...who has some actuall results this month? Believe it or not, but after the end of the season there will be at most 2 people with a title. Stork, Bisu, Kal, Jaedong...at least two of those people will accomplish in individual leagues the same shit like Flash, nothing (individual leagues really aren't about second places, just ask Yellow).
If you look back, there is nobody coming even close to Flash and if you look at present then, well, nobody has done anything yet. For example Bisu may very well be out of MSL soon, so his only accomplishment would be getting one round higher than Flash...and that's it.
I totally agree Flash deserves to be dropped, but he should be dropped AFTER somebody actually accomplish something more than him. The PR should be based on what players done, not what they may or may not do. All the players ranked higher than Flash merely managed to secure a chance to outdone Flash, they haven't outdone him yet (and as I said, at least two of them will be left titleless again). There is a reason its called the monthly power ranking not yearly or anything so yes flash should have been dropped no matter what this month. No, it's called Power Rank, not Monthly Power Rank, I have no idea where this misconception came from. One of the first power ranks feature Savior at #1 right after he got destoyed by Bisu. Then later there is also Bisu #1 and Mind at #5, right after Bisu lost to him in MSL finals. And I could go on with people ranked higher despite achieving inferior results that last month. If you wanna argue that every writer has different criteria and flamewheel is aiming for more dynamic PR, I'm fine with that, but don't call it monthly power ranking because it's never been that! Also in that case, I see no reason why Flash shouldn't place much higher in next PR if he displays great play and results in WL...which is thing against which some people here argued too.
The big difference in those games were that they were actually the finals, not a mediocre ro16 or awefull ro32. Just saying.
The "Who would probably win" doesn't count, too in a month where the player lost so badly. He obviously couldn't beat some noname scrubs so why do some people insist that during that exact time he would demolish everyone else. Not hating on flash here but the winners league did not look very convincing although he achieved to pull out ahead in the end. You can not be that blind to think that he looked dominating.
No 5 is okay in my opinion. If Bisu looses to Stork he will fall quite a lot, too and then it will really be hard to create a decent rank since Stork really does play godly recently and you can not hold that against Bisu too much (but the embarrassing loss to flash you certainly can). I am unsure about JD and Calm. Calm is back to his old slot machine self again and could pose a threat to everyone but never really staying like that for long.
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I want Stats to be in the PR next month :D
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On January 11 2011 05:31 Yxes2211 wrote:
I want Stats to be in the PR next month :D
That'd be nice, however an all kill against ACE isn't half as good as vs another team 
Most A-Class gamers have a chance to all-kill when facing ACE while usually only S-Class have a decent chance vs any other team.
I hope he feels confidence though as he gains momentum and keeps it up!
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On January 11 2011 04:56 L0thar wrote:
But the "monthly" argument really needs to go, it has no place here.
I've always had the same understanding -- that the PR is a ranking of the best players as of a certain date. When it's on schedule, it's simply published at the start of each month.
PR writers usually put the heaviest weight on recent results because, considering how volatile a player's form can be, it's a fair way to judge who are currently the best. But there is no magical line that disallows consideration of results/games prior to the previous PR date.
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On January 11 2011 05:38 StylishVODs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 05:31 Yxes2211 wrote:
I want Stats to be in the PR next month :D That'd be nice, however an all kill against ACE isn't half as good as vs another team Most A-Class gamers have a chance to all-kill when facing ACE while usually only S-Class have a decent chance vs any other team. I hope he feels confidence though as he gains momentum and keeps it up!
Well Stats has always appeared to be a pretty consistent Toss, plus Toss all-kills are harder (according to the interview anyway), so that's got to count for something. Not to mention taken the load off Flash since his wrist has been bothering him, makes me like Stats more 
But I've wanted Stats to develop into a beefy Toss for awhile, so I hope this is a sign its going to happen.
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On January 11 2011 05:01 MuffinDude wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 04:56 L0thar wrote:On January 11 2011 04:27 blade55555 wrote:On January 10 2011 22:09 L0thar wrote:On January 10 2011 12:38 blade55555 wrote:On January 10 2011 10:41 L0thar wrote:
It's quite funny, I was actually pretty content with Flash rank, #5 seemed quite good for a person out of both leagues, however dominant he was before. I didn't even see the need to discuss it.
But after some thinking, it's making less and less sense. There wasn't really any serious doubt about Flash skill, even in the writing about him is written he is still considered bonjwa. And rightfully so, only fool would consider Flash done after couple of losses, even when they happened at a critical time. I know haters are eager to proclaime "X is slumping" at every opportunity, it happened to Flash before, after the poweroutage finals or loss to Effort in OSL, but c'mon people, he only came back stronger than before.
So why was he dropped? Well, most sensible answer is that he lacked results and that's fine. But...who has some actuall results this month? Believe it or not, but after the end of the season there will be at most 2 people with a title. Stork, Bisu, Kal, Jaedong...at least two of those people will accomplish in individual leagues the same shit like Flash, nothing (individual leagues really aren't about second places, just ask Yellow).
If you look back, there is nobody coming even close to Flash and if you look at present then, well, nobody has done anything yet. For example Bisu may very well be out of MSL soon, so his only accomplishment would be getting one round higher than Flash...and that's it.
I totally agree Flash deserves to be dropped, but he should be dropped AFTER somebody actually accomplish something more than him. The PR should be based on what players done, not what they may or may not do. All the players ranked higher than Flash merely managed to secure a chance to outdone Flash, they haven't outdone him yet (and as I said, at least two of them will be left titleless again). There is a reason its called the monthly power ranking not yearly or anything so yes flash should have been dropped no matter what this month. No, it's called Power Rank, not Monthly Power Rank, I have no idea where this misconception came from. One of the first power ranks feature Savior at #1 right after he got destoyed by Bisu. Then later there is also Bisu #1 and Mind at #5, right after Bisu lost to him in MSL finals. And I could go on with people ranked higher despite achieving inferior results that last month. If you wanna argue that every writer has different criteria and flamewheel is aiming for more dynamic PR, I'm fine with that, but don't call it monthly power ranking because it's never been that! Also in that case, I see no reason why Flash shouldn't place much higher in next PR if he displays great play and results in WL...which is thing against which some people here argued too. Maybe because its updated once a month with recent stats? Flash does not deserve #1 even if you think he feels "scarier" sorry he failed in both individual leagues I still don't understand why you think he deserves #1 :S. While I don't agree with all the rankings this month it was done better considering all the fan boys crying atm. So is Kespa ranking, that argument really doesn't hold. Tbh I don't really care about Flash placement that much, as I wrote I was completely fine with that at first, because the logic "drop both leagues -> drop in PR" seems crystal clear. But then I stopped thinking about Flash and started thinking about people ranked higher then him...and to my surprise I really couldn't think of the reason why are they higher. They did nothing significant to deserve such placement...yet. But the "monthly" argument really needs to go, it has no place here. Its been like this for a while. When Jaedong and Flash has been trading #1 and #2, it was pretty much purely based on monthly result, whoever did slightly better got the number one spot. This is also the December power rank. So it puts more emphasis on December.
Yes, but that's because they were so close in skill and achievements at that time. They got titles, they got dominance in PL and they both headed for double finals. That's why the last month results were so important as that was the only thing which could be used to judge them. Only after the the last OSL and MSL was absolutely clear who's the best. However Kal, Bisu and Stork were nowhere near the skill of Flash for at least a year, nor they got any results.
I absolutely agree that recent results are by far most important for PR purposes. But it's not only about them.
On January 11 2011 05:18 luckybeni2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2011 22:09 L0thar wrote:On January 10 2011 12:38 blade55555 wrote:On January 10 2011 10:41 L0thar wrote:
It's quite funny, I was actually pretty content with Flash rank, #5 seemed quite good for a person out of both leagues, however dominant he was before. I didn't even see the need to discuss it.
But after some thinking, it's making less and less sense. There wasn't really any serious doubt about Flash skill, even in the writing about him is written he is still considered bonjwa. And rightfully so, only fool would consider Flash done after couple of losses, even when they happened at a critical time. I know haters are eager to proclaime "X is slumping" at every opportunity, it happened to Flash before, after the poweroutage finals or loss to Effort in OSL, but c'mon people, he only came back stronger than before.
So why was he dropped? Well, most sensible answer is that he lacked results and that's fine. But...who has some actuall results this month? Believe it or not, but after the end of the season there will be at most 2 people with a title. Stork, Bisu, Kal, Jaedong...at least two of those people will accomplish in individual leagues the same shit like Flash, nothing (individual leagues really aren't about second places, just ask Yellow).
If you look back, there is nobody coming even close to Flash and if you look at present then, well, nobody has done anything yet. For example Bisu may very well be out of MSL soon, so his only accomplishment would be getting one round higher than Flash...and that's it.
I totally agree Flash deserves to be dropped, but he should be dropped AFTER somebody actually accomplish something more than him. The PR should be based on what players done, not what they may or may not do. All the players ranked higher than Flash merely managed to secure a chance to outdone Flash, they haven't outdone him yet (and as I said, at least two of them will be left titleless again). There is a reason its called the monthly power ranking not yearly or anything so yes flash should have been dropped no matter what this month. No, it's called Power Rank, not Monthly Power Rank, I have no idea where this misconception came from. One of the first power ranks feature Savior at #1 right after he got destoyed by Bisu. Then later there is also Bisu #1 and Mind at #5, right after Bisu lost to him in MSL finals. And I could go on with people ranked higher despite achieving inferior results that last month. If you wanna argue that every writer has different criteria and flamewheel is aiming for more dynamic PR, I'm fine with that, but don't call it monthly power ranking because it's never been that! Also in that case, I see no reason why Flash shouldn't place much higher in next PR if he displays great play and results in WL...which is thing against which some people here argued too. The big difference in those games were that they were actually the finals, not a mediocre ro16 or awefull ro32. Just saying.
Yeah, the players I listed actually won something yet were still ranked bellow players who didn't. But as of now, Kal, Stork and Bisu haven't done shit in ages. They merely managed to get to mediocre ro16, just saying.
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Perhaps there's more weight on recent results, but I can vouch that flamewheel: a) is NOT a Bisu fan, b) is not a Kal fan, c) is a huge Jaedong fan, and d) likes Flash.
This is not fanboying in any way. The point is that Flash and Jaedong's play toward the end of last month was uncharacteristically shaky. They seem to have straightened out a bit, and Kal and perhaps Bisu will likely fall next month.
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The power rank rules aren't set in stone. The writers don't have more to go on than "who do *you* think are the top 10 players of this month?". By results, by fear-rate or by shoe size is completely up to the writer.
Also, in the end it doesn't matter one bit who is on top on the TL power rank. Kespa and ELO rank are more important because they go purely on numbers, and their games directly influence their rank, while this one is based on one persons feelings. So stop bitching, Flash doesn't need to be #1 on this for us KTFans to know he's still the best.
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On January 11 2011 08:50 Captain Mayhem wrote:
The power rank rules aren't set in stone. The writers don't have more to go on than "who do *you* think are the top 10 players of this month?". By results, by fear-rate or by shoe size is completely up to the writer.
Also, in the end it doesn't matter one bit who is on top on the TL power rank. Kespa and ELO rank are more important because they go purely on numbers, and their games directly influence their rank, while this one is based on one persons feelings. So stop bitching, Flash doesn't need to be #1 on this for us KTFans to know he's still the best.
I'm sorry, but did you just go in a thread where people are suppose to give their opinion on the power rank to stop bitching? Why don't you just tell the mods to close the thread instead of leaving it for people to post while you're at it. They're arguing, that's a good thing for this thread.
+ Show Spoiler +Unless there's a troll, that's a bad thing.
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On January 11 2011 04:48 Musoeun wrote:
Let's lay out the problem the PR writer faces:
- I'm going to rank the top ten Starcraft progamers.
- I'm going to do it (approximately) once a month.
- I have to consider that most progamers have the opportunity to qualify for or play in three different leagues.
And based on history we assume: Except near finals time (Ro8 onwards) for the individual leagues, it's virtually a given that top players (the ones I'm worried about ranking), will be playing regularly at least two leagues.
So now we have an anomaly: the best player for the previous year, who still seems to be playing well enough to be considered potentially the best player - is down to one league after losing games to scrubs and not-as-good players (hi, Kal). So no matter the general level of play, this best player (yes, Flash), despite phenomenal play in proleague, doesn't fit our general assumption of what a best player should do. If we only look at what happened in the last month, you have a record that looks like stereotypical Sea: great proleague, progress to a point in starleagues and then fail. And Sea with last month's Flash record would get a 7-10 spot. I'm guessing.
So no, the PR isn't "just a monthly ranking" - Flash fell "only" to five based on his previous record of dominance (and with Kal now flailing and failing, it looks like a better rank, despite Kal's head to had over Flash, would have been Stork, Bisu, Jaedong, Flash, Kal, etc). But I don't see a huge difference between four and five, and after the massive fail Flash pulled off I don't see how you could keep him in the top three, with Stork, Bisu, and Jaedong all playing at a high level.
I mean, I don't know what I would have done, but I can't fault flamewheel for pretty much anything about the rank (except maybe putting Hydra over Calm, and that's a different argument).
This.
This is why I usually defend PR choices when all the idiots come in bitching and moaning like 10 cent hookers because their favorite player didn't receive the fanboy-influenced biases that they want.
Tough. Fucking. Shit.
Flash's results most probably were an anomaly, but the fact that he lost the games that mattered the most really ought to mean something. And no, don't give me that "SPL matters most" bullshit because anyone who spouts that garbage has completely failed to understand how leagues work. In SPL, what matters is your a.) your average over the course of the season and b.) on a match-to-match basis, how you have influenced your team's momentum (for example, causing your team to advance in the ranking due to winning a particular ace match, or, yes, stopping an all-kill from happening in WL). Dropping a few games in a particular month isn't necessarily a big deal in the long run unless you manage to screw over your team's momentum at the same time (which, you have to admit, Kal did not do: STX had strong momentum during SPL R2 and when called on to ace, Kal went 2-1 last month).
In Starleague what matters is advancement. Getting in as deep as possible every time. If you can't win it, then at least get a seed for next time. Discussions about who you play are also relevant (very much so), and how close the games are/how well played they are certainly is also relevant, but that's just it... Flash didn't particularly lose to anyone special and he didn't look especially strong when he played.
It's true that Kal got some benefit of the doubt. There was doubt about Kal's abysmal SPL score. But he was given credit not only for winning when it mattered most, but for holding his own against the second hardest matchlist anyone faced last month. Flash didn't have that last month, and he didn't advance. And now Flash is in a position where it's up to him to show us that yes, last month really was an anomaly. 5 games lost to 5 different players, and looking vulnerable to boot. Flash now has something to prove. Hence the loss in Power. Hence the drop in Power Rank.
Was Kal given too much benefit of the doubt? Maybe. But the PR writer has to make tough decisions every month when he talks about the hotness (aka the definition of Power Rank) of a player. Taking a gander over to KeSPA and copying their ranking in order to make those tough decisions would be a cop out and a disservice to all TLnetters.
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I thought he predicted that Bisu would be the next top player.
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On January 11 2011 21:00 Elroi wrote:I thought he predicted that Bisu would be the next top player.
It was definitely Stork, Sea for terran.
But I don't think Bisu was a top player back then.
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iirc Stork's reputation dates back to 2005(can anyone verify this?) or 2006 where he was among the Neo Protoss Kings (Anytime, Pusan, Stork)
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On January 11 2011 21:02 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 21:00 Elroi wrote:I thought he predicted that Bisu would be the next top player. It was definitely Stork, Sea for terran. But I don't think Bisu was a top player back then.
pretty sure he said Canata for terran....
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