Power Rank 01/01/2011 - Page 11

On January 03 2011 20:35 c3rberUs wrote:
for the stork, kal(?) and bisu, since they are coming back to form, without Flash and JD, they have no one to 'good' enough to prove themselves against.

On January 03 2011 12:42 StylishVODs wrote:

I think there's a difference between being the better player and performing better over a handful of games. After Flash's dominating year, are a few losses enough to say that someone else is better than him? Ofcourse not.

I know skill isn't doing him any good if he's out of the leagues, but as I said before: he's not on 100% winratio so he will ofcourse lose some games and this time it was the wrong games.
Like the example with Kal. Flash wins almost everytime. WWWW and then one loss and BAM Kal is the better player? It doesn't work that way, I can play 100 games vs my friend and I might lose 10 of them and if it was in a tourny I'd have worse results than him but im still better because i win 90% of the time we play.
And Flash doesn't have to prove he can win when it matters.

So imo, as I said before, this ranking shows more whos doing better right now, a short time limit, rather than who is best at bw right now. And I'm fine with that.

PS. Baubo, the skill gap isn't as big as some might believe. But if you're in every final for a year it's pretty big. We're talking about flash here.

On January 03 2011 12:16 oneofthem wrote:
in a purely accomplishment ranking like the tennis rankings, even if you are a former champion getting knocked out of a tourney, you won't really be overtaken until your significant rival wins something and actually gets the points, and you don't even lose the points you have until they expire by a set time limit.

there seems to be an immediate penalty for flash because he got knocked out of a round of tournaments, and this is rather hard to justify in a consistent way even if we take accomplishments points to be the only criteria.

On January 04 2011 01:00 baubo wrote:


What's your point? Flash was just as invincible back when he tore apart Stork in the GSL/OSL. If anyone had said Flash's TvP could lose to any protoss, people would think you're crazy. Yet for the next entire year, Flash did nothing but lose to the top protosses.

While you can make assumptions about yourself with theoretically playing 100 games against someone, that's useless in terms of judging pro-gamers. They only get to be on-stage a few times each month. It doesn't matter if you win 99% against someone in practice. If that 1% comes on TV with the next round of the SL on the line, you still lose 100% of games that matter.

Flash lost high stake games. And for that he'll have no chance to redeem himself for the rest of this MSL/OSL season. That's FAIL. And no amount of "if he could play Classic again 10 times he'd win 9 times" argument can change that.

On January 04 2011 11:41 StylishVODs wrote:

you misunderstood my post.
im sayig that flash didnt lose because of the preassure but because he simply lost those games. thats why you cant speculate too freely yet about any diminish in skill simply because he lost a few games that mattered.
he always lost some game along the road since hes not on 100 percent win.
if he starts dropping games that will lower his percentage winratio over a few monhs you can start speculating... the samplesize now is too small.

stork and bisu did have a better month though so they definately deserve to be ahead on the PR but you cant say they are the best players right now until they've proven it or until flash shows that he's not the 70-80 percent monster anymore after such long time dominance...

On January 04 2011 11:41 StylishVODs wrote:

you misunderstood my post.
im sayig that flash didnt lose because of the preassure but because he simply lost those games. thats why you cant speculate too freely yet about any diminish in skill simply because he lost a few games that mattered.
he always lost some game along the road since hes not on 100 percent win.
if he starts dropping games that will lower his percentage winratio over a few monhs you can start speculating... the samplesize now is too small.

stork and bisu did have a better month though so they definately deserve to be ahead on the PR but you cant say they are the best players right now until they've proven it or until flash shows that he's not the 70-80 percent monster anymore after such long time dominance...

On January 03 2011 19:09 nK)Duke wrote:
PR loses all the credibility

On January 04 2011 13:02 baubo wrote:
I do believe that he was aided by new terran strategies and terran favored maps when he began to dominate last year.