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On December 25 2010 23:23 Musoeun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 15:43 Lightwip wrote:
I don't think he really should've been considered much in the first place, because I'm quite sure there's numerous players better than him. He just isn't consistent enough. Dude, if there's one thing Kal is, it's consistent. He's been like oldschool Bisu this year: league threat, slightly above-average Proleaguer. Especially, right now, compared to... well, just about everybody except Stork and Shine, he's consistent. You definitely have to consider him in the first place discussion, whether or not you give it to him (and I'm leaning more and more to a Shine #1).
Even though he is 6-7 in December? Maybe if everyone else fucks up and he excels... but right now there is no reason to put him over Jaedong, who has a better record this month, this season, and last season, and is ahead in ELO by almost 100 points.
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Fantasy, Fantasy, Fantasy... What is wrong with you?
I think it's time for oov to wean Fantasy so he can find his own way in the starcraft world. Because this is just getting ridiculous.
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On December 26 2010 00:10 Mortality wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 23:23 Musoeun wrote:On December 25 2010 15:43 Lightwip wrote:
I don't think he really should've been considered much in the first place, because I'm quite sure there's numerous players better than him. He just isn't consistent enough. Dude, if there's one thing Kal is, it's consistent. He's been like oldschool Bisu this year: league threat, slightly above-average Proleaguer. Especially, right now, compared to... well, just about everybody except Stork and Shine, he's consistent. You definitely have to consider him in the first place discussion, whether or not you give it to him (and I'm leaning more and more to a Shine #1). Even though he is 6-7 in December? Maybe if everyone else fucks up and he excels... but right now there is no reason to put him over Jaedong, who has a better record this month, this season, and last season, and is ahead in ELO by almost 100 points.
You know what, you're right. Kal's record in PL is pretty bad. I still think he has to get some respect for his OSL performance, but whether I consider him a genuine #1 candidate will depend on his MSL group.
The problem is, with Flash and Jaedong crashing out of the OSL, and Flash out of the MSL as well, and Kal as the current #3, and the possiblity/probability that Kal advances in the MSL, I still think he has to be considered - at this point - as a #1 candidate.
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
I don't know man getting owned by FBH is pretty crazy.
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Kal has 7 losses in December. Stork has 8 losses all season (2 in December). Jaedong has 7 losses all season (4 in December). Bisu has 6 losses all season (2 in December). And Shine has 3 losses all season (1 in December). Kal's ELO is 2209, 110 points below Jaedong. And going back further, his results from last season were behind Stork and Jaedong. Granted, he is at least winning when it counts the most, which isn't something Flash or Jaedong can say.
Of course things could change. He could stomp his MSL group (featuring Shine and Bisu). Jaedong could drop more ace matches. Shine could fall out of both leagues, or maybe squeak into OSL and get decimated in MSL, and maybe Stork could get 2-0'd in the tie-breaker with Shine (1-1) and Mind (2-0) advancing. Bisu could flop and then once again be out of both leagues early on in the season.
But to me, Kal getting ranked #1 is overly dependent on things going poorly for other contenders.
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when is the pr coming out? a lot of stuff might become more clear if you wait for the msl group and the osl tiebreakers
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
I thought it would be best to wait till the end of the first week of January.
But to get it back to being monthly probably New Year's Day if I'm not dead.
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I think right after MSL Group H is when it should be done. That's the big ??? of this PR as of now.
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United States33584 Posts
On December 26 2010 08:38 flamewheel wrote:
I thought it would be best to wait till the end of the first week of January.
But to get it back to being monthly probably New Year's Day if I'm not dead.
yay back on schedule ^_^
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To be honest I'd like to see the OSL tiebreakers first as well, but I have no idea when those will happen so... -.-
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On December 26 2010 10:22 Mortality wrote:
To be honest I'd like to see the OSL tiebreakers first as well, but I have no idea when those will happen so... -.-
I believe they are tonight.
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On December 26 2010 10:50 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2010 10:22 Mortality wrote:
To be honest I'd like to see the OSL tiebreakers first as well, but I have no idea when those will happen so... -.- I believe they are tonight.
Sunday, December 26th 21:00 KST. Just under 10 hours from now.
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Good. A lot of important results will happen there too: Stork and Shine are both contenders for #1, after all.
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Pretty excited for January PR... who will be #1????
Also, I'm expecting FBH to be top 10 :D
...please?
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Bisu's PR fate will depends largely on his MSL group as well, New Year's Eve.
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Wow, Bisu's really tearing PL up. I think he needs to be at least #2 if he wins his MSL group 2-0.
Tiebreakers coming up, really gonna determine a lot of stuff as far as better players go.
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Bisu has indeed been doing well but his MSL group once again contains Shine, which doesn't bode well for him at all. If he gets knocked out (certainly possible with Kal and Shine in the group) he will be out of both OSL and MSL, which would hurt his rank a lot.
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Stork for #1 now, probably.
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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