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On December 24 2010 20:20 Lightwip wrote:
I feel sorry for you Flamewheel.
And I suppose it really comes down to how Bisu and Shine do. It's gonna be Bisu, JD, Shine, or Stork #1 imo.
I cannot see Bisu at #1 at all and I don't know what makes you think he could be. He is playing good, yes, but he wasn't even in the OSL and does not have some super strong back-up months to fall back upon.
Shine or Stork are my best bets right now, but nobody really can predict anything anymore. Such a weird time after this long period of domination by 2 players (and of course Flash much more than JD, but still).
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In all honesty, I'd only see Bisu at #1 if both Stork and Shine drop a league while he doesn't. Although if he makes it in MSL I'd put him at #2 right now because he advances against stronger opponents.
Shine, I have no idea. Anywhere from 1-3 at this point. Might have to use PL as a tiebreaker.
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
flamewheel
6:31:18 AM Hrm.
6:31:27 AM You know what will make it much easier?
6:31:34 AM Jaedong and Flash have to continue winning in PL
6:31:47 AM Shine needs to keep winning in PL but lose / play questionably in MSL.
6:31:56 AM Kal needs to 2-0 MSL group.
6:32:00 AM Bisu needs to not qualify for MSL group.
6:32:10 AM Fantasy needs to make his group.
6:32:19 AM Hydra needs to keep winning in PL.
6:32:26 AM Sea... Sea's pretty much out of PR for next month.
6:32:38 AM Stork needs to pull more impressive wins in PL.
]343[
6:32:54 AM heh
6:33:02 AM doubt this will happen
6:33:06 AM i think shine will just keep winning
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The funny thing is, it's kinda true. Shine is just gonna win everything for a while.
Also, Bisu is gonna 2-0.
So basically, everything left in this PR really depends on that crucial last group of MSL.
Edit: And the tiebreakers.
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On December 24 2010 20:19 Holgerius wrote:
So, what does this mean? O_o JD is not looking invincible by any means, losing ace games and dropping out of OSL. Really interesting stuff happening in the world of SC right now...
If by interesting you mean sad 
On December 24 2010 20:20 Lightwip wrote:
I feel sorry for you Flamewheel.
And I suppose it really comes down to how Bisu and Shine do. It's gonna be Bisu, JD, Shine, or Stork #1 imo.
Jaedong can only have #1 if he wins very convincingly for the rest of the month. That game today was so sad. I wouldn't have mind it if it was a BO loss or if Hogil played well, but Jaedong didn't look like himself.
I think Shine is the top candidate for #1 now.
Happy christmas
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Whoever does better out of Stork and Shine in these tiebreakers is my candidate for #1 at this point.
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Sweden16951 Posts
On December 24 2010 20:48 Elroi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2010 20:19 Holgerius wrote:
So, what does this mean? O_o JD is not looking invincible by any means, losing ace games and dropping out of OSL. Really interesting stuff happening in the world of SC right now... If by interesting you mean sad
You were all so happy when it was just Flash who got knocked out. Sucks when it happens to your guy, eh?
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On December 24 2010 20:53 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2010 20:48 Elroi wrote:On December 24 2010 20:19 Holgerius wrote:
So, what does this mean? O_o JD is not looking invincible by any means, losing ace games and dropping out of OSL. Really interesting stuff happening in the world of SC right now... If by interesting you mean sad You were all so happy when it was just Flash who got knocked out. Sucks when it happens to your guy, eh?
To be honest I'm used to it happening to my guy. He just isn't meant to win OSL.
Although with JD either in or out(of SL's, don't interpret this the wrong way) is good, Flash out is kinda nice for once. We at least get to see some new faces, or else Fanta or Stork.
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Sweden16951 Posts
Could we seriously get Shine as #1? XD
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I say depends on tiebreakers and MSL, but yes we could.
Haha, I'm actually kinda relieved that we're finally gonna have a power rank that isn't Flash-JD.
Also, NO JAEDONG NO!
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Am I the only one who thinks that BW finally got interesting again? For the past year I've only really been checking out the results, not bothering to watch most games since it was just going to end up in Flash/Jaedong winning anyway. Suddenly the giants look vulnerable and excitement has returned to the game. Almost anybody could end up winning the gold. The #1 PR spot is suddenly wide open, no longer being simply a question of will it be Flash there or Jaedong.
I just hope it lasts and isn't just a hiccup. If next season we end up with FvJ finals once again I will be very sad.
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On December 24 2010 21:55 Goragoth wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that BW finally got interesting again? For the past year I've only really been checking out the results, not bothering to watch most games since it was just going to end up in Flash/Jaedong winning anyway. Suddenly the giants look vulnerable and excitement has returned to the game. Almost anybody could end up winning the gold. The #1 PR spot is suddenly wide open, no longer being simply a question of will it be Flash there or Jaedong.
I just hope it lasts and isn't just a hiccup. If next season we end up with FvJ finals once again I will be very sad.
I kind of see what you mean, but I want to tell you you've missed many many good games by doing that. Even in Flash and Jaedong's series (oh my, last MSL...).
As for the PR, I hope Stork 2-0s the tiebreakers^^
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Sweden16951 Posts
100% of the currently featured streams online are BW streams. ^__^
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On December 24 2010 21:55 Goragoth wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that BW finally got interesting again? For the past year I've only really been checking out the results, not bothering to watch most games since it was just going to end up in Flash/Jaedong winning anyway. Suddenly the giants look vulnerable and excitement has returned to the game. Almost anybody could end up winning the gold. The #1 PR spot is suddenly wide open, no longer being simply a question of will it be Flash there or Jaedong.
I just hope it lasts and isn't just a hiccup. If next season we end up with FvJ finals once again I will be very sad.
It would be so much better if it was some one stepping up and not only Jaedong and Flash stepping down.
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On December 24 2010 22:41 Elroi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2010 21:55 Goragoth wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that BW finally got interesting again? For the past year I've only really been checking out the results, not bothering to watch most games since it was just going to end up in Flash/Jaedong winning anyway. Suddenly the giants look vulnerable and excitement has returned to the game. Almost anybody could end up winning the gold. The #1 PR spot is suddenly wide open, no longer being simply a question of will it be Flash there or Jaedong.
I just hope it lasts and isn't just a hiccup. If next season we end up with FvJ finals once again I will be very sad. It would be so much better if it was some one stepping up and not only Jaedong and Flash stepping down.
The good thing is that we do have a lot of players stepping up. I would also agree on having the number one spot filled by the winner of shine/stork. The problem for flash and JD now is that they can not maintain a top 3 position as long as you can not play in the individuals (or your team does not get it together). JD is still in the MSL but how often will he play there in the next weeks? Stork and shine advancing from the tiebreakers would probably guaranty a top 3 spot.
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On December 24 2010 21:55 Goragoth wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that BW finally got interesting again? For the past year I've only really been checking out the results, not bothering to watch most games since it was just going to end up in Flash/Jaedong winning anyway. Suddenly the giants look vulnerable and excitement has returned to the game. Almost anybody could end up winning the gold. The #1 PR spot is suddenly wide open, no longer being simply a question of will it be Flash there or Jaedong.
I just hope it lasts and isn't just a hiccup. If next season we end up with FvJ finals once again I will be very sad.
To be honest, I sort of agree. The Flash/JD rivalry hasn't been enough to hold my interest. I tend to stop following progaming for a little while whenever my life starts getting very busy. Over the years there were other rivalries I greatly preferred like NaDa/Gorush. But to be honest, having both drop out of OSL due to what feels like fluky results... I don't know if that's the answer. I'd like to see other S-class players solidify their game play. Effort before he decided to quit, Fantasy before he decided to start dropping games to every single opponent he faces... perhaps Stork and Bisu... except there's a problem here, a problem with that picture to. Go back and look at the tournament results since after Savior's dual finals. What do you see? I can only think of 3 finals that don't have Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Stork, or Jangbi. GGplay vs Iris in Daum 07, Luxury vs... Kal? in 08. July vs Best in 08. If we remove Jangbi I don't know how much the list will change. Kal could become such a player but he's been around the block a lot too.
I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for, but variety is definitely a part of it. Edit: it would be awesome to see an older player who never made it to the finals before like Sea or Light win a title. It would be awesome to see a young talent enter the S-class for longer than just a season. Can Snow or Soulkey or Action give that to us?
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On December 24 2010 21:55 Goragoth wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that BW finally got interesting again? For the past year I've only really been checking out the results, not bothering to watch most games since it was just going to end up in Flash/Jaedong winning anyway. Suddenly the giants look vulnerable and excitement has returned to the game. Almost anybody could end up winning the gold. The #1 PR spot is suddenly wide open, no longer being simply a question of will it be Flash there or Jaedong.
I just hope it lasts and isn't just a hiccup. If next season we end up with FvJ finals once again I will be very sad.
Fantasy vs Juni
lol
flamewheel it sucks to be you :D
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On December 25 2010 01:35 Mortality wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2010 21:55 Goragoth wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that BW finally got interesting again? For the past year I've only really been checking out the results, not bothering to watch most games since it was just going to end up in Flash/Jaedong winning anyway. Suddenly the giants look vulnerable and excitement has returned to the game. Almost anybody could end up winning the gold. The #1 PR spot is suddenly wide open, no longer being simply a question of will it be Flash there or Jaedong.
I just hope it lasts and isn't just a hiccup. If next season we end up with FvJ finals once again I will be very sad. To be honest, I sort of agree. The Flash/JD rivalry hasn't been enough to hold my interest. I tend to stop following progaming for a little while whenever my life starts getting very busy. Over the years there were other rivalries I greatly preferred like NaDa/Gorush. But to be honest, having both drop out of OSL due to what feels like fluky results... I don't know if that's the answer. I'd like to see other S-class players solidify their game play. Effort before he decided to quit, Fantasy before he decided to start dropping games to every single opponent he faces... perhaps Stork and Bisu... except there's a problem here, a problem with that picture to. Go back and look at the tournament results since after Savior's dual finals. What do you see? I can only think of 3 finals that don't have Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Stork, or Jangbi. GGplay vs Iris in Daum 07, Luxury vs... Kal? in 08. July vs Best in 08. If we remove Jangbi I don't know how much the list will change. Kal could become such a player but he's been around the block a lot too. I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for, but variety is definitely a part of it. Edit: it would be awesome to see an older player who never made it to the finals before like Sea or Light win a title. It would be awesome to see a young talent enter the S-class for longer than just a season. Can Snow or Soulkey or Action give that to us?
It was Luxury vs Jangbi. You missed Calm vs Kwanro in Summer MSL of 09.
At any rate this PR is gonna be tough now that Flash and JD are no longer dual leagues. It's looking like #1 is probably gonna be Shine, Stork, Kal or Fantasy (assuming he plays well again for the rest of the month. Bisu dropped a league so it would be strange to have him at #1 if JD isn't #1 cause he dropped the OSL. Maybe if Bisu plays fucking amazing in all his games for the rest of the month and all of the people I listed above play poorly he could get #1.
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On December 25 2010 04:25 Zaxro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 01:35 Mortality wrote:On December 24 2010 21:55 Goragoth wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that BW finally got interesting again? For the past year I've only really been checking out the results, not bothering to watch most games since it was just going to end up in Flash/Jaedong winning anyway. Suddenly the giants look vulnerable and excitement has returned to the game. Almost anybody could end up winning the gold. The #1 PR spot is suddenly wide open, no longer being simply a question of will it be Flash there or Jaedong.
I just hope it lasts and isn't just a hiccup. If next season we end up with FvJ finals once again I will be very sad. To be honest, I sort of agree. The Flash/JD rivalry hasn't been enough to hold my interest. I tend to stop following progaming for a little while whenever my life starts getting very busy. Over the years there were other rivalries I greatly preferred like NaDa/Gorush. But to be honest, having both drop out of OSL due to what feels like fluky results... I don't know if that's the answer. I'd like to see other S-class players solidify their game play. Effort before he decided to quit, Fantasy before he decided to start dropping games to every single opponent he faces... perhaps Stork and Bisu... except there's a problem here, a problem with that picture to. Go back and look at the tournament results since after Savior's dual finals. What do you see? I can only think of 3 finals that don't have Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Stork, or Jangbi. GGplay vs Iris in Daum 07, Luxury vs... Kal? in 08. July vs Best in 08. If we remove Jangbi I don't know how much the list will change. Kal could become such a player but he's been around the block a lot too. I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for, but variety is definitely a part of it. Edit: it would be awesome to see an older player who never made it to the finals before like Sea or Light win a title. It would be awesome to see a young talent enter the S-class for longer than just a season. Can Snow or Soulkey or Action give that to us? It was Luxury vs Jangbi. You missed Calm vs Kwanro in Summer MSL of 09. At any rate this PR is gonna be tough now that FLash and JD are no longer dual leagues. It's looking like #1 is probably gonna be Shine, Stork, Kal or Fantasy (assuming he plays well again for the rest of the month. Bisu dropped a league so it would be strange to have him at #1 if JD isn't #1 cause he dropped the OSL. Maybe if Bisu plays fucking amazing in all his games for the rest of the month and all of the people I listed above play poorly he could get #1.
Good catch, although it only reiterates the point: since Savior fell, exactly 3 major finals have featured someone other than Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Stork or Jangbi, and that includes GOM. And we're fast approaching four years since Savior fell...
Bisu has losing records against both Shine (3-5) and Kal (4-6) who are in his MSL group and lost BO3's to them both recently this season. Kal is guaranteed to advance at least in OSL and Shine is in a tie-breaker with 2 of 3 advancing. Bisu needs to thoroughly demolish them in order to prove that he is worthy of a #1 ranking.
Interestingly, Calm is the only player currently locked in for both leagues. Stork and Shine are in a tie-breaker together, Kal and Fantasy still need to advance (from hard groups) in MSL. Tonight's MSL matches will be big.
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Even though Jaedong lost OSL at least he's still in the MSL. While I hate that he's out of OSL i'm just happy he's still in one ^^.
Next PR should be interesting 
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