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On August 24 2010 04:14 InFdude wrote:
What is all this Bisu bashing and him not being able to achieve such dominance.Before the Flash/JD
there was the Bisu/JD and before that just Bisu.He doesn't have less titles than say..Boxer and he is protoss .Flash might be good but we have 3 T bonjwas so IMO Bisu being that good with protoss says something.
I think it has a little to do with him constantly failing out of OSL (ok maybe he made a few semifinals...) and his inconsistency at PL back in his 07-08 glory days. Then he revived in 09, became good at proleague, and won an MSL, but jaedong was up there competing with him for #1 then.
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+ Show Spoiler +On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
You know it's interesting. For all that we talk about how the skill gap is always closing between S-class and practice partners, the top gamers have been getting more and more consistent with each passing year. I've been thinking of writing an article on why this is true and how it relates to the bonjwas. In win percentage, both JD and Flash are ahead of where Boxer ever was, but nobody -- I mean nobody -- came anywhere close to Boxer's level of dominating the strategical game.
On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
That said, we're getting to the point where we can expect Flash/JD finals pretty much in every league every season.
and You say it after two 2-3 semifinals? hm.
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On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
That said, we're getting to the point where we can expect Flash/JD finals pretty much in every league every season.
Except for the Korean Air OSL 2, which will be Stork's triumph over either Leta or Free.
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On August 24 2010 04:52 DracoVolantus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
You know it's interesting. For all that we talk about how the skill gap is always closing between S-class and practice partners, the top gamers have been getting more and more consistent with each passing year. I've been thinking of writing an article on why this is true and how it relates to the bonjwas. In win percentage, both JD and Flash are ahead of where Boxer ever was, but nobody -- I mean nobody -- came anywhere close to Boxer's level of dominating the strategical game. Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
That said, we're getting to the point where we can expect Flash/JD finals pretty much in every league every season. and You say it after two 2-3 semifinals? hm.
I mean continuing into the future. It's always been the case that the best players of the current season are the most likely finalists of next season, but lately the number of finals containing Flash and/or JD has been startling.
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On August 24 2010 05:53 Mortality wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 04:52 DracoVolantus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
You know it's interesting. For all that we talk about how the skill gap is always closing between S-class and practice partners, the top gamers have been getting more and more consistent with each passing year. I've been thinking of writing an article on why this is true and how it relates to the bonjwas. In win percentage, both JD and Flash are ahead of where Boxer ever was, but nobody -- I mean nobody -- came anywhere close to Boxer's level of dominating the strategical game. On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
That said, we're getting to the point where we can expect Flash/JD finals pretty much in every league every season. and You say it after two 2-3 semifinals? hm. I mean continuing into the future. It's always been the case that the best players of the current season are the most likely finalists of next season, but lately the number of finals containing Flash and/or JD has been startling.
I think they won't meet even in this OSL because of quality of their opponents, but we'll see, hm.
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On August 24 2010 06:21 DracoVolantus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 05:53 Mortality wrote:On August 24 2010 04:52 DracoVolantus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
You know it's interesting. For all that we talk about how the skill gap is always closing between S-class and practice partners, the top gamers have been getting more and more consistent with each passing year. I've been thinking of writing an article on why this is true and how it relates to the bonjwas. In win percentage, both JD and Flash are ahead of where Boxer ever was, but nobody -- I mean nobody -- came anywhere close to Boxer's level of dominating the strategical game. On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
That said, we're getting to the point where we can expect Flash/JD finals pretty much in every league every season. and You say it after two 2-3 semifinals? hm. I mean continuing into the future. It's always been the case that the best players of the current season are the most likely finalists of next season, but lately the number of finals containing Flash and/or JD has been startling. I think they won't meet even in this OSL because of quality of their opponents, but we'll see, hm.
I think if Stork advances and plays JD, then Stork can advance instead, but I don't see Flash being knocked out.
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On August 24 2010 06:25 Yxes2211 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 06:21 DracoVolantus wrote:On August 24 2010 05:53 Mortality wrote:On August 24 2010 04:52 DracoVolantus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
You know it's interesting. For all that we talk about how the skill gap is always closing between S-class and practice partners, the top gamers have been getting more and more consistent with each passing year. I've been thinking of writing an article on why this is true and how it relates to the bonjwas. In win percentage, both JD and Flash are ahead of where Boxer ever was, but nobody -- I mean nobody -- came anywhere close to Boxer's level of dominating the strategical game. On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
That said, we're getting to the point where we can expect Flash/JD finals pretty much in every league every season. and You say it after two 2-3 semifinals? hm. I mean continuing into the future. It's always been the case that the best players of the current season are the most likely finalists of next season, but lately the number of finals containing Flash and/or JD has been startling. I think they won't meet even in this OSL because of quality of their opponents, but we'll see, hm. I think if Stork advances and plays JD, then Stork can advance instead, but I don't see Flash being knocked out.
In a bo5? If stork beats JD in a bo5 I would be very very impressed.
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On August 24 2010 07:41 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 06:25 Yxes2211 wrote:On August 24 2010 06:21 DracoVolantus wrote:On August 24 2010 05:53 Mortality wrote:On August 24 2010 04:52 DracoVolantus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
You know it's interesting. For all that we talk about how the skill gap is always closing between S-class and practice partners, the top gamers have been getting more and more consistent with each passing year. I've been thinking of writing an article on why this is true and how it relates to the bonjwas. In win percentage, both JD and Flash are ahead of where Boxer ever was, but nobody -- I mean nobody -- came anywhere close to Boxer's level of dominating the strategical game. On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
That said, we're getting to the point where we can expect Flash/JD finals pretty much in every league every season. and You say it after two 2-3 semifinals? hm. I mean continuing into the future. It's always been the case that the best players of the current season are the most likely finalists of next season, but lately the number of finals containing Flash and/or JD has been startling. I think they won't meet even in this OSL because of quality of their opponents, but we'll see, hm. I think if Stork advances and plays JD, then Stork can advance instead, but I don't see Flash being knocked out. In a bo5? If stork beats JD in a bo5 I would be very very impressed.
Stork could definitely beat Jaedong. The man is currently on a 7-game winning streak against him (yes, I'll count losses on Tears of the Protoss and Sin Chupung-Ryeong as wins).
No matter who'd win, a Bo5 between Stork vs Jaedong is probably the only thing I'd like to see more right now than Flash vs Jaedong. Except maybe Stork vs Flash.
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On August 24 2010 08:23 okum wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 07:41 blade55555 wrote:On August 24 2010 06:25 Yxes2211 wrote:On August 24 2010 06:21 DracoVolantus wrote:On August 24 2010 05:53 Mortality wrote:On August 24 2010 04:52 DracoVolantus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
You know it's interesting. For all that we talk about how the skill gap is always closing between S-class and practice partners, the top gamers have been getting more and more consistent with each passing year. I've been thinking of writing an article on why this is true and how it relates to the bonjwas. In win percentage, both JD and Flash are ahead of where Boxer ever was, but nobody -- I mean nobody -- came anywhere close to Boxer's level of dominating the strategical game. On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
That said, we're getting to the point where we can expect Flash/JD finals pretty much in every league every season. and You say it after two 2-3 semifinals? hm. I mean continuing into the future. It's always been the case that the best players of the current season are the most likely finalists of next season, but lately the number of finals containing Flash and/or JD has been startling. I think they won't meet even in this OSL because of quality of their opponents, but we'll see, hm. I think if Stork advances and plays JD, then Stork can advance instead, but I don't see Flash being knocked out. In a bo5? If stork beats JD in a bo5 I would be very very impressed. Stork could definitely beat Jaedong. The man is currently on a 7-game winning streak against him (yes, I'll count losses on Tears of the Protoss and Sin Chupung-Ryeong as wins). No matter who'd win, a Bo5 between Stork vs Jaedong is probably the only thing I'd like to see more right now than Flash vs Jaedong. Except maybe Stork vs Flash.
not saying stork can't beat jaedong. In a bo1 and possibly a bo3 but bo5? Gl he'll need it hardcore, there is a reason Jaedong rarely loses a bo5 :D
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On August 24 2010 08:23 okum wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 07:41 blade55555 wrote:On August 24 2010 06:25 Yxes2211 wrote:On August 24 2010 06:21 DracoVolantus wrote:On August 24 2010 05:53 Mortality wrote:On August 24 2010 04:52 DracoVolantus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
You know it's interesting. For all that we talk about how the skill gap is always closing between S-class and practice partners, the top gamers have been getting more and more consistent with each passing year. I've been thinking of writing an article on why this is true and how it relates to the bonjwas. In win percentage, both JD and Flash are ahead of where Boxer ever was, but nobody -- I mean nobody -- came anywhere close to Boxer's level of dominating the strategical game. On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
That said, we're getting to the point where we can expect Flash/JD finals pretty much in every league every season. and You say it after two 2-3 semifinals? hm. I mean continuing into the future. It's always been the case that the best players of the current season are the most likely finalists of next season, but lately the number of finals containing Flash and/or JD has been startling. I think they won't meet even in this OSL because of quality of their opponents, but we'll see, hm. I think if Stork advances and plays JD, then Stork can advance instead, but I don't see Flash being knocked out. In a bo5? If stork beats JD in a bo5 I would be very very impressed. Stork could definitely beat Jaedong. The man is currently on a 7-game winning streak against him (yes, I'll count losses on Tears of the Protoss and Sin Chupung-Ryeong as wins). No matter who'd win, a Bo5 between Stork vs Jaedong is probably the only thing I'd like to see more right now than Flash vs Jaedong. Except maybe Stork vs Flash.
This is a joke? Stork is not even close to taking the best ZvP player in a bo5. As much as I would like to see a reemergence of Stork and for him to capture his second OSL the only person who seems capable of stopping JD right now is Flash (and vice-versa).
And Stork does not have a winning streak against JD if you count WCG grand finals.
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On August 24 2010 09:09 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 08:23 okum wrote:On August 24 2010 07:41 blade55555 wrote:On August 24 2010 06:25 Yxes2211 wrote:On August 24 2010 06:21 DracoVolantus wrote:On August 24 2010 05:53 Mortality wrote:On August 24 2010 04:52 DracoVolantus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
You know it's interesting. For all that we talk about how the skill gap is always closing between S-class and practice partners, the top gamers have been getting more and more consistent with each passing year. I've been thinking of writing an article on why this is true and how it relates to the bonjwas. In win percentage, both JD and Flash are ahead of where Boxer ever was, but nobody -- I mean nobody -- came anywhere close to Boxer's level of dominating the strategical game. On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
That said, we're getting to the point where we can expect Flash/JD finals pretty much in every league every season. and You say it after two 2-3 semifinals? hm. I mean continuing into the future. It's always been the case that the best players of the current season are the most likely finalists of next season, but lately the number of finals containing Flash and/or JD has been startling. I think they won't meet even in this OSL because of quality of their opponents, but we'll see, hm. I think if Stork advances and plays JD, then Stork can advance instead, but I don't see Flash being knocked out. In a bo5? If stork beats JD in a bo5 I would be very very impressed. Stork could definitely beat Jaedong. The man is currently on a 7-game winning streak against him (yes, I'll count losses on Tears of the Protoss and Sin Chupung-Ryeong as wins). No matter who'd win, a Bo5 between Stork vs Jaedong is probably the only thing I'd like to see more right now than Flash vs Jaedong. Except maybe Stork vs Flash. This is a joke? Stork is not even close to taking the best ZvP player in a bo5. As much as I would like to see a reemergence of Stork and for him to capture his second OSL the only person who seems capable of stopping JD right now is Flash (and vice-versa). And Stork does not have a winning streak against JD if you count WCG grand finals.
Even in the WCG grand finals, Stork came within an inch of beating Jaedong (he got a significant lead in the Tau Cross game but wasted it on one or two failed attacks, if I recall correctly). Their most recent game on Match Point was insane. So no, it's not at all a joke that Stork could take Jaedong. Certainly not "not even close".
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As long as it isn't a finals, Stork is probably the single best progamer at stepping up and conquering a challenge. It's why he's the only guy in the world with a significant winning record over Bisu/Jaedong/Flash despite losing to all of them in finals.
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On August 24 2010 09:37 TwoToneTerran wrote:
As long as it isn't a finals, Stork is probably the single best progamer at stepping up and conquering a challenge. It's why he's the only guy in the world with a significant winning record over Bisu/Jaedong/Flash despite losing to all of them in finals.
He wins games that don't mean anything to one of the other top 3 or by ridiculous circumstances, such as beating Bisu 3-0 in Ever when Bisu was sick, going 3-0 against Flash in third place series before Flash got good, and beating Jaedong 2-0 in WCG Korea when Jaedong had free agency on his mind. Also random proleague games when Jaedong and Flash ahd the individual leagues on their minds increase his totals.
Also, Stork beating Jaedong in a best of 5? Are you people serious? Has he even beaten any zerg in a bo5 besides Luxury? Has Jaedong even lost a bo5 to a toss since the Rock series? I like Stork, but personally I don't think it would be close.
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On August 24 2010 09:09 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 08:23 okum wrote:On August 24 2010 07:41 blade55555 wrote:On August 24 2010 06:25 Yxes2211 wrote:On August 24 2010 06:21 DracoVolantus wrote:On August 24 2010 05:53 Mortality wrote:On August 24 2010 04:52 DracoVolantus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
You know it's interesting. For all that we talk about how the skill gap is always closing between S-class and practice partners, the top gamers have been getting more and more consistent with each passing year. I've been thinking of writing an article on why this is true and how it relates to the bonjwas. In win percentage, both JD and Flash are ahead of where Boxer ever was, but nobody -- I mean nobody -- came anywhere close to Boxer's level of dominating the strategical game. On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
That said, we're getting to the point where we can expect Flash/JD finals pretty much in every league every season. and You say it after two 2-3 semifinals? hm. I mean continuing into the future. It's always been the case that the best players of the current season are the most likely finalists of next season, but lately the number of finals containing Flash and/or JD has been startling. I think they won't meet even in this OSL because of quality of their opponents, but we'll see, hm. I think if Stork advances and plays JD, then Stork can advance instead, but I don't see Flash being knocked out. In a bo5? If stork beats JD in a bo5 I would be very very impressed. Stork could definitely beat Jaedong. The man is currently on a 7-game winning streak against him (yes, I'll count losses on Tears of the Protoss and Sin Chupung-Ryeong as wins). No matter who'd win, a Bo5 between Stork vs Jaedong is probably the only thing I'd like to see more right now than Flash vs Jaedong. Except maybe Stork vs Flash. This is a joke? Stork is not even close to taking the best ZvP player in a bo5. As much as I would like to see a reemergence of Stork and for him to capture his second OSL the only person who seems capable of stopping JD right now is Flash (and vice-versa). And Stork does not have a winning streak against JD if you count WCG grand finals.
You have to understand, JD and Stork are really good friends and practice with each other constantly. Yes his ZvP isn't great when compared to tosses, but if there is ANY toss that knows how to play JD, its Stork.
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On August 24 2010 10:55 Yxes2211 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 09:09 setzer wrote:On August 24 2010 08:23 okum wrote:On August 24 2010 07:41 blade55555 wrote:On August 24 2010 06:25 Yxes2211 wrote:On August 24 2010 06:21 DracoVolantus wrote:On August 24 2010 05:53 Mortality wrote:On August 24 2010 04:52 DracoVolantus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
You know it's interesting. For all that we talk about how the skill gap is always closing between S-class and practice partners, the top gamers have been getting more and more consistent with each passing year. I've been thinking of writing an article on why this is true and how it relates to the bonjwas. In win percentage, both JD and Flash are ahead of where Boxer ever was, but nobody -- I mean nobody -- came anywhere close to Boxer's level of dominating the strategical game. On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
That said, we're getting to the point where we can expect Flash/JD finals pretty much in every league every season. and You say it after two 2-3 semifinals? hm. I mean continuing into the future. It's always been the case that the best players of the current season are the most likely finalists of next season, but lately the number of finals containing Flash and/or JD has been startling. I think they won't meet even in this OSL because of quality of their opponents, but we'll see, hm. I think if Stork advances and plays JD, then Stork can advance instead, but I don't see Flash being knocked out. In a bo5? If stork beats JD in a bo5 I would be very very impressed. Stork could definitely beat Jaedong. The man is currently on a 7-game winning streak against him (yes, I'll count losses on Tears of the Protoss and Sin Chupung-Ryeong as wins). No matter who'd win, a Bo5 between Stork vs Jaedong is probably the only thing I'd like to see more right now than Flash vs Jaedong. Except maybe Stork vs Flash. This is a joke? Stork is not even close to taking the best ZvP player in a bo5. As much as I would like to see a reemergence of Stork and for him to capture his second OSL the only person who seems capable of stopping JD right now is Flash (and vice-versa). And Stork does not have a winning streak against JD if you count WCG grand finals. You have to understand, JD and Stork are really good friends and practice with each other constantly. Yes his ZvP isn't great when compared to tosses, but if there is ANY toss that knows how to play JD, its Stork.
I have confidence in Stork's ability to take games off the best players in any proleague game, but with his current PvZ condition, Jaedong's current ZvP condition and it being a bo5, I have little confidence he will even get two wins.
I believe Bisu on the other hand can take Jaedong in a bo5.
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On August 24 2010 11:15 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 10:55 Yxes2211 wrote:On August 24 2010 09:09 setzer wrote:On August 24 2010 08:23 okum wrote:On August 24 2010 07:41 blade55555 wrote:On August 24 2010 06:25 Yxes2211 wrote:On August 24 2010 06:21 DracoVolantus wrote:On August 24 2010 05:53 Mortality wrote:On August 24 2010 04:52 DracoVolantus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
You know it's interesting. For all that we talk about how the skill gap is always closing between S-class and practice partners, the top gamers have been getting more and more consistent with each passing year. I've been thinking of writing an article on why this is true and how it relates to the bonjwas. In win percentage, both JD and Flash are ahead of where Boxer ever was, but nobody -- I mean nobody -- came anywhere close to Boxer's level of dominating the strategical game. On August 24 2010 03:50 Mortality wrote:
That said, we're getting to the point where we can expect Flash/JD finals pretty much in every league every season. and You say it after two 2-3 semifinals? hm. I mean continuing into the future. It's always been the case that the best players of the current season are the most likely finalists of next season, but lately the number of finals containing Flash and/or JD has been startling. I think they won't meet even in this OSL because of quality of their opponents, but we'll see, hm. I think if Stork advances and plays JD, then Stork can advance instead, but I don't see Flash being knocked out. In a bo5? If stork beats JD in a bo5 I would be very very impressed. Stork could definitely beat Jaedong. The man is currently on a 7-game winning streak against him (yes, I'll count losses on Tears of the Protoss and Sin Chupung-Ryeong as wins). No matter who'd win, a Bo5 between Stork vs Jaedong is probably the only thing I'd like to see more right now than Flash vs Jaedong. Except maybe Stork vs Flash. This is a joke? Stork is not even close to taking the best ZvP player in a bo5. As much as I would like to see a reemergence of Stork and for him to capture his second OSL the only person who seems capable of stopping JD right now is Flash (and vice-versa). And Stork does not have a winning streak against JD if you count WCG grand finals. You have to understand, JD and Stork are really good friends and practice with each other constantly. Yes his ZvP isn't great when compared to tosses, but if there is ANY toss that knows how to play JD, its Stork. I have confidence in Stork's ability to take games off the best players in any proleague game, but with his current PvZ condition, Jaedong's current ZvP condition and it being a bo5, I have little confidence he will even get two wins. I believe Bisu on the other hand can take Jaedong in a bo5.
I think the fact that Stork has been the only toss to consistently beat JD over this past year of his ZvP dominance is saying alot, and that makes him a viable threat. That said, I don't think that Stork would beat JD, because after the MSL finals, JD only has to focus on OSL, and at most Stork gets 1 more day than JD to prepare. Really my point was that Stork is a bigger threat to JD, than free or ZerO is to Flash.
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On August 24 2010 10:08 Nick_54 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 09:37 TwoToneTerran wrote:
As long as it isn't a finals, Stork is probably the single best progamer at stepping up and conquering a challenge. It's why he's the only guy in the world with a significant winning record over Bisu/Jaedong/Flash despite losing to all of them in finals. He wins games that don't mean anything to one of the other top 3 or by ridiculous circumstances, such as beating Bisu 3-0 in Ever when Bisu was sick, going 3-0 against Flash in third place series before Flash got good, and beating Jaedong 2-0 in WCG Korea when Jaedong had free agency on his mind. Also random proleague games when Jaedong and Flash ahd the individual leagues on their minds increase his totals.
So, riddle me this, who was the guy who completely shocked everyone by soundly and impressively defeating the two current mini-bonjwas?
Jaedong had untouchable ZvP, until Stork fought him in an amazing game on matchpoint that he won. Still the best PvZ of the year. When Flash was tearing everyone up left and right, who pulled out an amazing and crazy strategy to not only beat Flash but dismantle him and send him second place in group stages of the OSL? Stork.
You may want to belittle his standard of play, but you don't win games like those without being the kind of player who can raise his standard of play an incredible amount against incredible competition. Every single person on this forum should be painstakingly aware just how viciously well Stork can play, even if he embarrasses himself against weaker gamers more than the rest of taekbangleessang.
Also I love Flash and while I don't think those old wins should reflect how good he is now, even if you take out those third place games Stork has a 6-6 record with him. If you want to count GSI it's an 8-9 record, still very close and that's cherrypicking it as much as you can in Flash's favor, which I don't approve of.
I definitely do not favor Stork in a Bo5 against Jaedong or Flash. But he is the only player OUTSIDE of Jaedong and Flash who I am not surprised to see beat LeeSsang.
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On August 24 2010 11:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2010 10:08 Nick_54 wrote:On August 24 2010 09:37 TwoToneTerran wrote:
As long as it isn't a finals, Stork is probably the single best progamer at stepping up and conquering a challenge. It's why he's the only guy in the world with a significant winning record over Bisu/Jaedong/Flash despite losing to all of them in finals. He wins games that don't mean anything to one of the other top 3 or by ridiculous circumstances, such as beating Bisu 3-0 in Ever when Bisu was sick, going 3-0 against Flash in third place series before Flash got good, and beating Jaedong 2-0 in WCG Korea when Jaedong had free agency on his mind. Also random proleague games when Jaedong and Flash ahd the individual leagues on their minds increase his totals. So, riddle me this, who was the guy who completely shocked everyone by soundly and impressively defeating the two current mini-bonjwas? Jaedong had untouchable ZvP, until Stork fought him in an amazing game on matchpoint that he won. Still the best PvZ of the year. When Flash was tearing everyone up left and right, who pulled out an amazing and crazy strategy to not only beat Flash but dismantle him and send him second place in group stages of the OSL? Stork. You may want to belittle his standard of play, but you don't win games like those without being the kind of player who can raise his standard of play an incredible amount against incredible competition. Every single person on this forum should be painstakingly aware just how viciously well Stork can play, even if he embarrasses himself against weaker gamers more than the rest of taekbangleessang. Also I love Flash and while I don't think those old wins should reflect how good he is now, even if you take out those third place games Stork has a 6-6 record with him. If you want to count GSI it's an 8-9 record, still very close and that's cherrypicking it as much as you can in Flash's favor, which I don't approve of. I definitely do not favor Stork in a Bo5 against Jaedong or Flash. But he is the only player OUTSIDE of Jaedong and Flash who I am not surprised to see beat LeeSsang.
Totally agree with everything you say here.
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To clarify, I did not suggest that Stork would be more likely than not to beat Jaedong in a Bo5 (only Flash -- barely -- qualifies for that distinction does at the moment). I'd probably give him a 40% chance or so, main point being that it definitely wouldn't be an upset if it happened.
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On August 24 2010 12:44 okum wrote:
To clarify, I did not suggest that Stork would be more likely than not to beat Jaedong in a Bo5 (only Flash -- barely -- qualifies for that distinction does at the moment). I'd probably give him a 40% chance or so, main point being that it definitely wouldn't be an upset if it happened.
I think you meant a surprise here because If Jaedong is favored then Stork's win is an upset, 40% is high imo but anyways ^^
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