EPTPower Rank 08/01/2010 - Page 31
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On August 24 2010 14:00 jalstar wrote: Stork has no PvZ consistency. For every win against Jaedong there's a loss to Shine, s2, Hydra, etc. If he plays Jaedong on a good day he might win 3-2. On most days Jaedong wins 3-0 easily. All zergs you listed is descent, whats your point? | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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InFdude
Bulgaria619 Posts
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WWJDD
India342 Posts
On August 25 2010 00:30 InFdude wrote: Just saw Jaedong is at his peak ELO overall and his peak vs T (strange after all the T stomping going on). The games vs Flash must have scored big points. It's amazing what these two people are doing. When zergs were dominating the league about six months ago, Flash goes on a tear. Now, that terrans are dominating, JD is #1 ELO. What's happening around here? | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On August 25 2010 02:31 WWJDD wrote: It's amazing what these two people are doing. When zergs were dominating the league about six months ago, Flash goes on a tear. Now, that terrans are dominating, JD is #1 ELO. What's happening around here? When zergs were dominating a year ago (double ZvZ finals) Flash wasn't even close to Ro8. | ||
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
On August 25 2010 03:35 SuperArc wrote: When zergs were dominating a year ago (double ZvZ finals) Flash wasn't even close to Ro8. Not even close to Ro8 as in going 1-2 in the Ro16 of both the MSL and OSL? Yeah that's miles away. And you are missing his point anyway (even if the time frame he stated is wrong), while Flash was not fantastic throughout the whole swarm season he definitely started his dominance while it was still going on. | ||
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
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WWJDD
India342 Posts
We are witnessing something truly special people!!! Starcraft's been solved. And there are two different solutions. Sadly toss is nowhere in the picture. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
On August 25 2010 05:53 Mortality wrote: SC has been "solved" more times than you could possibly imagine. I don't think we've hit the absolute limit yet. we are still quite far from the absolute limit in my opinion. there are perfectly viable builds and very powerful ones at that that even Jaedong decide not to use because they are too A.P.M intensive | ||
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dani_caliKorea
730 Posts
Free, also has a winning record against the Dong and has a much better PvZ. Not to mention Free beat Flash in an impressive game most recently. I hope both Free and Stork meet in the finals, the chance of that is like 3%, but its about a time we had a protoss champ | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
PR: 1/2: Decided by MSL finals. Obviously JD and Flash go here. 3. Fantasy (MSL semis, good play vs Zero in WCG, all-kill in GSM) 4. Free (IMO the clear #1 Protoss right now, should be ranked #4 if he beats Zero imo, leading 1-0 right now) 5. Zero (ridiculous GSM run, strong games against Fantasy, should take #4 if he beats Free) 6. Light (ridiculously strong TvZ performance carried him into MSL semis, where he was a hair's breath from knocking out JD) 7. Kal (welcome back to the land of the living) 8-10. ????? ForGG might deserve mention, at least for his TvZ and TvP... which weren't enough to carry him. Sea looked so good coming into this month, but now...? Lately he's been getting tossed around. Did he run into a wall against tougher competition? Leta was sneaking up in there, but Flash has been tossing him around. Stork was riding sooooooo much momentum coming into the month and is leading on Sea, but other than that victory, this month has not been good for him (won vs Kal, lost to Free, lost 2-0 to Pure, up 1 game vs Sea... in special leagues, won vs Lomo, lost vs BackHo and Baby). Effort was looking good, but lately seems to be taking it in the ass. And Action, our last OSL quarter-finalist, is really struggling right now. Hard month for a PR. Top ranks not too hard, but after that things disintegrate. | ||
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Tianx
United States1196 Posts
Sea looked so good coming into this month, but now...? Lately he's been getting tossed around. Did he run into a wall against tougher competition? just lol | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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VManOfMana
United States764 Posts
On August 25 2010 04:45 Severedevil wrote: Flash went on a tear at the end of Zerg domination, and then into a period of Terran domination which hasn't ended yet. (Terran league performance for non-Flash players lagged behind because the old maps were used for the early stages of the league.) Maybe because Flash himself ended it?  Plus Fantasy and Leta. | ||
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
On August 24 2010 11:15 setzer wrote: I have confidence in Stork's ability to take games off the best players in any proleague game, but with his current PvZ condition, Jaedong's current ZvP condition and it being a bo5, I have little confidence he will even get two wins. I believe Bisu on the other hand can take Jaedong in a bo5. bisu is the last protoss where i would put my eggs in a basket to beat jaedong in bo5. he makes utterly stupid mistakes that make you bash your head against the wall. (zealot wall anybody?) no, stork, kal or free are the protoss's i give the most credit for when it comes to challenging jaedong in games. kal played AMAZING p v z, it was just a shame that it was P v J. free has beat jaedong in bo3 i believe. or was it bo5 in a previous MSL where the archon + zealot push first emerged. stork is stork. brilliant tactician and amazing toss player. still relevant besides his manga/anime addiction. im hoping for an epic finals for MSL. flash.. jaedong.. give us more games like the ones u two played on rush hour 3, odd eye, etc etc. god im psyched! | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
On August 26 2010 06:40 Garaman wrote: bisu is the last protoss where i would put my eggs in a basket to beat jaedong in bo5. he makes utterly stupid mistakes that make you bash your head against the wall. (zealot wall anybody?) no, stork, kal or free are the protoss's i give the most credit for when it comes to challenging jaedong in games. kal played AMAZING p v z, it was just a shame that it was P v J. free has beat jaedong in bo3 i believe. or was it bo5 in a previous MSL where the archon + zealot push first emerged. stork is stork. brilliant tactician and amazing toss player. still relevant besides his manga/anime addiction. im hoping for an epic finals for MSL. flash.. jaedong.. give us more games like the ones u two played on rush hour 3, odd eye, etc etc. god im psyched! Bisu? Yah i agree, there is no way I would favor the suit in his current form. Bisu has and always will be a player that relies on his mechanics to win games. He is not someone like Stork who attempts to take the momentum early through intelligent play and choke the rest of the game out. Current Bisu does not have the mechanics do stand up to JD's ZvP. Sure we can quote the last game they played as an example of how close it would be, but I think it is a poor example. Yes a thoroughly enjoyed the epicness of that PvZ, but personally it wasn't all that more epic than Kal vs JD the series. Nah the only toss capable of taking JD in a Bo5 is Stork. Stork is an extremely intelligent player, with an arsenal of builds he can create specifically to exploit his opponent. That quality is why he isn't consistent overall, but has good records against the top players. You all should watch tasteless interview tasteless gives a really good comparison between Stork and Bisu | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
.I am super pumped to see the MSL finals again between Jaedong and Flash. Will Jaedong get revenge (please do) or will Flash win again? Sigh I can't wait :D | ||
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