EPTdual gold Jaedong you can do it
mah boy zero </3
Power Rank 08/01/2010 - Page 33
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
dual gold Jaedong you can do it mah boy zero </3 | ||
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chameleonism
United States31 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:05 chameleonism wrote: If JD can beat Flash in the MSL finals, it will be one of the greatest SL runs ever. JD has basically had the toughest possible road laid for him and he has triumphed every step of the way so far. After the finals, he will have played three straight TvZ series against arguably the best three TvZers on the planet and that isn't mentioning the one-sided map pool. If Jaedong wins the map pool obviously isn't as one-sided as people think. | ||
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:55 J1.au wrote: If Jaedong wins the map pool obviously isn't as one-sided as people think. And Katrina wasn't bad for TvP because Flash managed to win on it, and the Shinhan 3 map pool was fine for Zergs since Savior won that OSL. Right? | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:55 J1.au wrote: If Jaedong wins the map pool obviously isn't as one-sided as people think. While I don't think the map pool is nearly as bad as people think (certainly not compared to the Shinhan 3 OSL maps where the most balanced map in the pool was Hitch Hiker), at the same time it should be noted that Jaedong winning would not prove that the map pool isn't one-sided. Consider that Jaedong in his matches against Light in MSL and Flash in WCG, Jaedong was not able to win when the games extended into late game play. Obviously a large part of that has to be attributed to the super high level skills of Light and Flash, but realistically speaking, Jaedong would not have beaten Light if he hadn't gimmicked his way to victory on Polaris. But actually, I voted for JD to win MSL in Liquibet. Even though I think Flash's TvZ is stronger than Jaedong's ZvT and even though the maps favor Terran, I think Jaedong has 55% chance of winning this one. JD has been playing pretty much nothing but ZvT lately. He's been practicing it extensively, whereas Flash is practicing TvT. And at this level of play, that difference in experience matters. Against hard opponents, Flash has been relying heavily on his late game turtle style recently, whereas Jaedong has been studying midgame timings extensively. Jaedong will practice hard to find any possible way to deal game-winning damage during the early/midgame. If Flash anticipates this and blocks these moves, it will be a repeat of last MSL. Otherwise, JD will actually come into the MSL finals with the advantage, despite the maps. | ||
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:55 J1.au wrote: If Jaedong wins the map pool obviously isn't as one-sided as people think. right... so if a player triumphs versus very hard opponents on very hard map we can start to minimize it y saying the maps were balanced after all when they clearly are not (I'm not saying Jaedong's MSL run was nearly impossible because of the maps but it is certainly impressive considering the maps and whom he went through and trying to minimize his feat if he wins by saying the maps were balanced after all when they clearly are not is stupid in my opinion) | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
On August 28 2010 05:26 Mortality wrote: While I don't think the map pool is nearly as bad as people think (certainly not compared to the Shinhan 3 OSL maps where the most balanced map in the pool was Hitch Hiker), at the same time it should be noted that Jaedong winning would not prove that the map pool isn't one-sided. Consider that Jaedong in his matches against Light in MSL and Flash in WCG, Jaedong was not able to win when the games extended into late game play. Obviously a large part of that has to be attributed to the super high level skills of Light and Flash, but realistically speaking, Jaedong would not have beaten Light if he hadn't gimmicked his way to victory on Polaris. But actually, I voted for JD to win MSL in Liquibet. Even though I think Flash's TvZ is stronger than Jaedong's ZvT and even though the maps favor Terran, I think Jaedong has 55% chance of winning this one. JD has been playing pretty much nothing but ZvT lately. He's been practicing it extensively, whereas Flash is practicing TvT. And at this level of play, that difference in experience matters. Against hard opponents, Flash has been relying heavily on his late game turtle style recently, whereas Jaedong has been studying midgame timings extensively. Jaedong will practice hard to find any possible way to deal game-winning damage during the early/midgame. If Flash anticipates this and blocks these moves, it will be a repeat of last MSL. Otherwise, JD will actually come into the MSL finals with the advantage, despite the maps. I agree with the majority what you said, however, in response to the bold, this really is a double edged sword. Flash has sooooo much footage of JD's ZvT whereas JD has very little of Flash's. I would not be surprised if Flash has totally changed his openings from the last MSL. Because of the lack of insight i would give a 55% for Flash not JD. But this really is a matter of opinion. Personally I believe having your play style unknown to be an advantage over continuously playing a single matchup. And we all know Flash is going to have top notch ZvT just by looking at his practice partners. (Effort and ZerO who are the aggressive zerg and macro zerg respectively). All that said, I really want this to be a close series. That's really all I want. I want it to go to game 5 with everyone unable to predict the winner  if it goes to 5 games I will not care who wins XD | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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pre_amp
Australia47 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
Who will it be? Also, LeeSsang looks a bit less invincible this time around, probably because good players actually started doing well. | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
JD's doing this for TL's PR I'm sure of it lol | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On August 28 2010 19:40 SuperArc wrote: So what is zerg supposed to do against scout--14cc (with wallin) 4 pool. 9 pool speed. Anything aggressive, really. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On August 28 2010 20:06 Lightwip wrote: 4 pool. 9 pool speed. Anything aggressive, really. But if the terran scouts 9poolspeed, terran is just going to walling with 2 raxes? | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On August 28 2010 20:08 SuperArc wrote: But if the terran scouts 9poolspeed, terran is just going to walling with 2 raxes? It's late for that. The terran builds nothing until like 12 supply, so you could probably pull off 9ps. Pretty much, just like what just happened. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
And I still fail, so what am I doing wrong? | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4732 Posts
GG edit: Wrong thread, but whatever, fits in here as well | ||
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johanes
Czech Republic2229 Posts
is he bonwja now? long time for me at least | ||
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