EPTAlso if your team is #1 your team mates can guarantee your #1 for you even if you fail.
So the ranking is fair, and in the next months PR Jaedong and Great shouldn't be in the PR at all. Their teams simply does not exist.
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12yearsofsc
Greece30 Posts
Also if your team is #1 your team mates can guarantee your #1 for you even if you fail. So the ranking is fair, and in the next months PR Jaedong and Great shouldn't be in the PR at all. Their teams simply does not exist. | ||
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BPCoffee
27 Posts
On July 03 2010 00:51 TwoToneTerran wrote: I think it's tentative. Since both KT and Oz have their positions basically decided, the matches aren't that important. But if, say, Jaedong performs spectacularly well against someone on Khan who still, barely, has a chance to qualify and are playing their hearts out, it'll probably notch a point. I think it's a bit subjective but if someone plays an awesome game with which there's no doubt it was an impressive display, they'll probably get credit. In the same vein, I don't think anyone would hold games likes that one Pusan played against gogo when they were both eliminated from their group already and he was just fucking around, etc. Or I think you're assuming far too much, especially for someone who doesn't make the PR | ||
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BPCoffee
27 Posts
On July 02 2010 13:36 SimonB wrote: I wonder if Savior's moral demise has caused a mass migration of his hardcore fans to JD. JD's always had some pretty delusional fans, but it's taken to new levels now. says the guy with the Terran icon and the KT icon. At least JD fans are not delusional and biased enough to put JD over Flash if these two player's month record was switched, but apparently you guys are worse than JD fans. Flash fans are the most bitter/biased childish fans on TL imo User was warned for this post | ||
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dogabutila
United States1438 Posts
On July 02 2010 21:57 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote: I know you think that your somewhat snarky quoting served as a sort of rebuttal, but I stand by what I said. As far as I can remember, Plexa has consistently used the current and previous month to make his ranks. Maybe to everyone's consternation, and maybe he's never outlined his particular rubric, but that has always seemed to be the case when I read his PRs. Wax's "unlimited period" is simply just exaggeration. Despite the surreality making it easy to forget, Flash did 3-0 Jaedong in the MSL just days prior to the month in question. Sure, maybe Plexa always errs on the side of Flash, and I may personally disagree with his final decision, but they're still relevant results, in my opinion. Relevant enough that all of the caterwauling and bloodlust in the comments is unjustified. Riiiight. I love how MSL wins only count when flash wins them. When jaedong rapes the shit out of flash it doesnt mean anything. If you think this PR still has relevant results, then I am glad you are not doing PR either. Also you need to start watching starcraft again. On July 03 2010 03:03 12yearsofsc wrote: Well i think i got it right. Jaedong doesn't deserve #1 because of Hiya (cheer for ro16), Lomo and Killer failing. It has no meaning getting a win that gives a 50% success ticket to your team, when the team fails. Also if your team is #1 your team mates can guarantee your #1 for you even if you fail. So the ranking is fair, and in the next months PR Jaedong and Great shouldn't be in the PR at all. Their teams simply does not exist. OHHHH, I see. I thought this was an *Individual* player power rankings, not *team* power rankings! I take it all back. | ||
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Alak
Sweden380 Posts
On July 03 2010 03:52 BPCoffee wrote: says the guy with the Terran icon and the KT icon. At least JD fans are not delusional and biased enough to put JD over Flash if these two player's month record was switched, but apparently you guys are worse than JD fans. Flash fans are the most bitter/biased childish fans on TL imo Considering the amount of bile you've been spreading in pretty much every single post you've made, the pot is calling the kettle black here. There are grounds for JD being #1 this month, but as has already been said, there are grounds for Flash being #1 this month as well. A choice was made and there's plenty of debate to be made (debate is a good thing), but all this acting like Plexa stole your firstborn and fed it to pigs is silly and uncalled for. Some of you people are taking this way, way too seriously. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On July 03 2010 03:52 BPCoffee wrote: says the guy with the Terran icon and the KT icon. At least JD fans are not delusional and biased enough to put JD over Flash if these two player's month record was switched, but apparently you guys are worse than JD fans. Flash fans are the most bitter/biased childish fans on TL imo XD Bring out the popcorn, fanboy-war is on! | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On July 03 2010 03:52 BPCoffee wrote: says the guy with the Terran icon and the KT icon. At least JD fans are not delusional and biased enough to put JD over Flash if these two player's month record was switched, but apparently you guys are worse than JD fans. Flash fans are the most bitter/biased childish fans on TL imo What kind of fan are you, because that would easily solve this dilemma. edit: Jesus christ, he's a troll account. The dude's name comes from a really recent and kind of dumb BP schtick on youtube about them spilling the coffee. Man I hate trolls. | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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khellian
Korea (South)922 Posts
On July 03 2010 05:13 n.DieJokes wrote: I think Jaedong should be number one and I'm unbiased; look at my Terran icon and Rolster fan tag. Also this is true, I would know LOL, good one. <3 | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On July 03 2010 04:26 Holgerius wrote: XD Bring out the popcorn, fanboy-war is on!  Want some? I'm smiling my ass off when people dont watch the games and just watch staticstics "LOL RUBY HAS LOW PERCENTAGE, MUST BE A BAD PLAYER 100% OF THE TIME" I had my doubts about Flash being first as well. And if you JD fanboys and flash haters don't think Plexa had secound thoughts about it too, I swear to god the ranking is as thought out as possible. I can't help but take a big banana grin on when someone critisizes someone for following a team, if you think we're all bandwagons, (the bandwagons brings alot of new awesome people to the KT fan club, dont get me wrong), but personally I had KT as my favorite team, since I saw him struggle vs Jaedong and Bisu in the GOM's. I had also seen him dominate the carrier builds which walked everyone else over. BPCoffee, all fans are disillusional, if you don't ignore some of your favorite teams weaknesses and like them for it, I dont think youve got your right to call yourself a truehearted fan. But thats my opinion. Put on that Oz sign, I'd fit you, seriously, from what you posted in these PR comments, if not an Oz fan, you're a JaedongOz fan atleast. Am I the only who noticed the sudden, or well not sudden, spring of haters of KT and Flash (probally hates the former because of the latter)? I know some people hated him for his conservative playstyle. Haters gonna hate. I can hate on Bisu all I want, and I am going to do it; Plexa shouldve done the same he did to Baby and Guemchi put him on CBNC. Putting him directly on 10 doesnt show much, but he gets a lot of compensation BECAUSE he is Bisu. Some of the compensation Flash recieves, BECAUSE he is Flash. Before this ranking becomes blind with JD vs Flash fanboys, gaze upon the ranking and think about the "precaution" which some other players had, even though they showed good performance before (Baby in Gom, Guemchi in 08/09 proleague had good run... I think... he was at a 6 cost at the start of 10/11 season, so I guess he was relieable atleast). Regards, Iplaythings PS havent read all the comments, but those i read was the same throughoutly. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On July 03 2010 05:17 TwoToneTerran wrote: Come on, DieJokes, you're a cool dude, why you gotta assist the troll. =( Imo he is being sarcastic (; | ||
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
I don't really think most of Flash opponents played brilliant or had a BO advantage. And Flash play hasnt looked as good as ever at all. Heck, his opponents weren't vT specialists either. I think I'm pretty easy to convince but the arguments on number one sure did not. | ||
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Bwenjarin Raffrack
United States322 Posts
On July 03 2010 04:08 dogabutila wrote: Riiiight. I love how MSL wins only count when flash wins them. When jaedong rapes the shit out of flash it doesnt mean anything. If you think this PR still has relevant results, then I am glad you are not doing PR either. Also you need to start watching starcraft again. In all seriousness, it seems like you're being unreasonably spiteful, and I think perhaps you need to take a break for a bit to calm down. The January PR was exactly what I was referring to about Plexa's consistency, i.e., he used Flash's 2-0 over Jaedong in the OSL from late December as more relevant data in the direct comparison. Saying "Jaedong rapes the shit out of flash" referring to that MSL final is more than a little loaded and incorrect. Not only that, but the results and games of this most recent MSL are far more in line with your colorful terminology than the previous MSL. At least you're consistent, however: January's PR On February 01 2010 08:34 dogabutila wrote: There is just no way that flash should be over JD. JD destroyed flash in the finals. Game 1 was simple. Game 2 was wtf greater spire, otherwise he wins easily. G3 he destroyed flash. G4 he destroyed flash. WL he outplays flash and doesnt research consume. 2-2 vs flash even taking out the power outage game where he was ahead far and away. The two games flash won were not by his own strength but because JD made a mistake. It would not have been surprising to see all of those games go to JD at all. So, how is it possible to say that flash is better then him? Cause flash can beat other players who are not as good? JD can beat them too. Lets not forget him destroying #6 Kal. Demolishing the #1 player and #6 player and finishing #2 does not make sense when the #1 player hasn't done the same against anybody in the top 10 power rankings..... About the December OSL, Flash 2-0 Jaedong On February 01 2010 11:00 dogabutila wrote: Did you see that game? It wasnt a normal day. It's pretty much the mental equivalent of G4 MSL. You could tell how tired and worn out he was in the booth pregame just watching the camera flick on to him. This last MSL: On May 30 2010 01:36 dogabutila wrote: Boring finals. Looks like JD didn't get any sleep. Nothing special from either player. // Looks like plexa got an excuse to keep Flash #1 on power rankings now. Really now.. you're doing the same things you accuse Plexa of doing, and your bias is overwhelmingly obvious. How are the MSL finals results irrelevant? Because it happened two days prior to a cut-off that will benefit your favorite player? Again, I reiterate: On July 02 2010 10:08 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote: Indeed. Everyone tends to gerrymander the results to their favorite player's advantage (i.e., last month does/doesn't count, month before last does/doesn't count) in these discussions. Jaedong fans have done it nearly every single month ("it's a monthly Power Rank!"). Plexa's doing it now. Taking into account the current and the last month in that order of importance seems to be the most consistent. Anything else would mean far too much fluctuation and leads me to believe that most people don't actually know what they want from this rank. The latter half of the PR already fluctuates wildly enough. Sigh. Anyway.. On July 03 2010 05:44 Iplaythings wrote: Am I the only who noticed the sudden, or well not sudden, spring of haters of KT and Flash (probally hates the former because of the latter)? I know some people hated him for his conservative playstyle. Haters gonna hate. My preferred theory is that they were cowed into silence by Flash's indisputable results, and now that they are disputable, they're coming out to.. dispute. And how. For example, it seems as if many voices who accepted Flash did so only begrudgingly, and have turned on him now that they can get away with it.  | ||
]343[
United States10328 Posts
On July 03 2010 06:40 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote: My preferred theory is that they were cowed into silence by Flash's indisputable results, and now that they are disputable, they're coming out to.. dispute. And how. For example, it seems as if many voices who accepted Flash did so only begrudgingly, and have turned on him now that they can get away with it. this. also, should bisu realllllly be in the PR for beating a bunch of scrubs? Poll: Where should Bisu be on the PR? CBNC (14) 10 (10) 8 (4) 6 (3) 7 (0) 9 (0) 31 total votes Your vote: Where should Bisu be on the PR? | ||
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ultimateq
United States114 Posts
I'm happy to see Bisu back, I have a great amount of respect for him, I hope he can come back. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On July 02 2010 00:56 snowdrift86 wrote: FLASH FANBOY [x] There's no such thing as Jaedong fans, only Flash antifans [ ] If you disagree, you're a hater [ ] A game vs foru is a free win, a game vs Backho in the guy's first appearance since his injury isn't [ ] Losses reflect so well on Flash, perhaps more than his wins [ ] Drawn-out TvTs are a rarity [ ] when Flash cheeses and wins, it's a well-calculated, genius move [ ] Flash can only lose to cheese [ ] Ruby is top-line competition [ ] when Flash cheeses and fails, his opponent deserves no credit [ ] None of the above applies to Jaedong This made me laugh out loud. Touché, snowdrift, touché. As far as I'm concerned Flash is still the guy to beat and everyone has their eye's set on him. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
Clearing this confusion up with most likely ruin some of the fun though  | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On July 03 2010 05:13 n.DieJokes wrote: I think Jaedong should be number one and I'm unbiased; look at my Terran icon and Rolster fan tag. Also this is true, I would know Uh oh, you missed something. + Show Spoiler + Quick, request a name change! | ||
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