• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:48
CEST 06:48
KST 13:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall10HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles2[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China9Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL66Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?14FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event22
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form? Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles Program: SC2 / XSplit / OBS Scene Switcher
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays Korean Starcraft League Week 77
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL20 Preliminary Maps [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall SC uni coach streams logging into betting site Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL
Tourneys
[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China [BSL20] Grand Finals - Sunday 20:00 CET CSL Xiamen International Invitational The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Summer Games Done Quick 2025! US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Summer Games Done Quick 2024!
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
Culture Clash in Video Games…
TrAiDoS
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 620 users

Do you like the direction B.net 2.0 is taking? - Page 4

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
May 29 2010 14:29 GMT
#61
people are probably voting yes for the sake of voting yes
savior did nothing wrong
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 15:06:59
May 29 2010 14:39 GMT
#62
Overall, I'd have to say No. It's not to say I don't see a lot of potential with the current framework. I think it just needs to accommodate more feedback from the fans, rather than solely being "their image".


Criticizing people for voting yes is pretty unfair. For a lot of people, chat channels are not an important thing (myself included), or the fact that it just doesn't seem polished (which is my issue) is not a concern for some. People assume everyone else has the same vision as to what is important to a good b.net experience, and that is just the wrong way to look at it. B.net does effectively get you into games pretty quickly, and the match ups are fairly decent. To a lot of people, B.net is a means to get them into games, and for them to say they like B.net for this reason is 100% justified.
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
May 29 2010 14:49 GMT
#63
Who the fuck voted yes...
They should explain their reasons here...
BW forever!
sLiMpoweR
Profile Joined March 2009
United States430 Posts
May 29 2010 14:54 GMT
#64
While i voted no i can see while some people voted yes. Its much easier to find games against similar skilled opponents. From the casual gamers perspective you dont lose much without chat channels because on bnet 1.0 they never left brood war usa-1 anyway. And instead of having to search through 3v3 bgh and and fastest games you can now quickly find a game and play.
Team aMg
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
May 29 2010 15:04 GMT
#65
On May 29 2010 23:54 sLiMpoweR wrote:
While i voted no i can see while some people voted yes. Its much easier to find games against similar skilled opponents. From the casual gamers perspective you dont lose much without chat channels because on bnet 1.0 they never left brood war usa-1 anyway. And instead of having to search through 3v3 bgh and and fastest games you can now quickly find a game and play.

You mean like automatchmaking that existed in wc3? (Only broken because of lack of players, not functionality)
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10827 Posts
May 29 2010 15:18 GMT
#66
On May 29 2010 23:54 sLiMpoweR wrote:
While i voted no i can see while some people voted yes. Its much easier to find games against similar skilled opponents. From the casual gamers perspective you dont lose much without chat channels because on bnet 1.0 they never left brood war usa-1 anyway. And instead of having to search through 3v3 bgh and and fastest games you can now quickly find a game and play.

AMM was already present in bnet 1.0 (wc3)
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
May 29 2010 15:30 GMT
#67
[] no xrealm
[] no chat
[] no overall ranking
[x] facebook

no thx
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
Axonn
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia287 Posts
May 29 2010 15:46 GMT
#68
On May 29 2010 14:58 Ysorigin wrote:
Calling it right now! The poll is going to be 90% no and 10% yes!


Almost there
NO definitely
haterade
Profile Joined May 2010
7 Posts
May 29 2010 15:57 GMT
#69
I don't understand the hostility towards facebook integration. If you don't want it, don't use it and that way your facebook "friends" that you seem to hate won't be able to find you.

But anyway I voted no because they are using the same logic that Infinity Ward used to justify their lack of dedicated servers. "If we make IWnet good, people won't want dedicated servers". "If we make matchmaking good, people won't want chat channels".

Don't tell me what I want.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
May 29 2010 15:58 GMT
#70
I'd like to hear more from those that voted Yes (other than trolls and people who who somehow think this will keep BW as popular as it is)
TLOBrian
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States453 Posts
May 29 2010 16:14 GMT
#71
I voted No. Battlenet 0.2 is horrible. But on another note, I found THIS in the updated ULA.

Massive.
Blizzard's Games and the Service may incorporate technology of Massive Incorporated ("Massive"), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation ("Microsoft"), that enables in-game advertising, and the display of other similar in-game objects, which are downloaded temporarily to your personal computer and replaced during online game play. As part of this process, Massive may collect some information about the game and the advertisements delivered to you, as well as standard information that is sent when your personal computer or game console connects to the Internet including your Internet protocol (IP) address. Massive will use this information to transmit and measure in-game advertising, as well as to improve the products and services of Massive and its affiliates. None of the information collected by Massive will be used to identify you. For additional details regarding Massive's in-game advertising practices, please see Massive's In-Game Advertising privacy statement at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=122085&clcid=0x409. The trademarks and copyrighted material contained in all in-game advertising are the property of the respective owners. Portions of the Service are © 2008 Massive Incorporated. All rights reserved.

Goddammit Blizzard.
Steven Bonnell II is the friggin man.
Spinks
Profile Joined April 2010
South Africa23 Posts
May 29 2010 16:33 GMT
#72
Lol i dont understand blizzard...

With all the votes, emails and opinons it can easily be seen that the majority of the community do not like the direction that sc2 was taken.
Since blizzard is all for the players, why are we still having to deal with these stupid problems?

Wc3 was and still is a great game, why cant they just have the lan and bnet settings the same?

It worked for wc3 so why the **** change it?

You guys agree?
Night[7]
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden31 Posts
May 29 2010 16:34 GMT
#73
I voted yes and wouldn't post except people seem to want to know why.

Now I don't think B.net is perfect, far from it. No chat channels and similar issues will inevitable bring down the "B.net experience".

Lack of overall ranking

This is UNNECESSARY. Let's look at the TSL ladder. That's basically an overall ranking of the participating players. Was it accurate? No. Neither was the iCCup ladder and an overall B.net ladder wouldn't be accurate either. The only reason to have 1 big ladder would be to satisfy your own astoundingly big egos.

Tournaments decide who is better. Not ladders.

No chat channels

This I find one of the most serious issues. But you can indeed connect with anyone you want anyway so I don't consider it to be breaking B.net.

No cross server play allowed

This made me mad.

Inability to change nicknames

You actually put this as a problem? Obviously you are running out of issues and just want to hate on Blizzard.

No LAN feature

This has been done to death and while I personally would prefer a LAN feature I can live with it and overall it won't change that much.

Inability to host games by name and password

This again I find annoying. This should be available.

Online replays

Blizzard stated their reasons for these and I mostly agree. The only argument I see is that you can copy someone elses build. But people have proven quite capable of doing that just by watching VODS.

So overall yes I like the way B.net is heading. Although some changes are needed.
climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
May 29 2010 16:35 GMT
#74
I voted no. I really miss my chatrooms. I feel its just one of those things that b.net needs.
Twitter: @JonathanRosales
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 29 2010 16:52 GMT
#75
On May 29 2010 15:46 Renaissance wrote:
People voting no are trolls, or family or friends of Blizzard.

I'm family, and I voted no :D
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
May 29 2010 17:33 GMT
#76
--- Nuked ---
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
May 29 2010 17:34 GMT
#77
On May 29 2010 15:48 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 15:46 Renaissance wrote:
People voting no are trolls, or family or friends of Blizzard.

I think you're the troll here.

Assuming you have confused 'no' with 'yes' on purpose...


You both are, now stop talking about it.

On a more serious note. BNET 2.0 is taking one step forward two steps back with every single iteration it produces, and every time we hear anyone at Blizzard talk about it one thing is quite clear to me. They have absolutely no idea whatsoever what features fans want, and are taking a completely stubborn approach to developing the Beta as whole. They ask us for feedback, and then disregard all of it in favor of 'we've got a whole lot of data to sift through'. Guess what? Data isn't going to be the saving grace of any video game, it may help fix overall balance in a race vs race situation however the fact of the matter is that without taking an actual look at the hands-on game play (by more than Blizzard handful of in-house Beta testers oh wait I'm talking about a BETA!). If SC2B was like any other Beta I've ever been in the company producing it would actually read and respect the opinions of players, but wait there is more. Rather than using simply a direct-submit form like was used with the WC3 and all Blizzard Betas prior to this they choose to use a 4 different section forum like the did with WoW Beta. And what happened? Threads get buried in second buy noobs and trolls spamming useless banter, a direct-submit system would the only way to make sure Blizzard sees the legitimate testers reports, but that won't happen because they've got their all precious data. The game as a whole is okay, but the presentation we are currently seeing is far and away from what I would have expected.
i-bonjwa
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
May 29 2010 17:46 GMT
#78
Didn't know there are 355 blizz employees on this forum.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
May 29 2010 17:57 GMT
#79
On May 30 2010 01:14 TLOBrian wrote:
I voted No. Battlenet 0.2 is horrible. But on another note, I found THIS in the updated ULA.

Massive.
Blizzard's Games and the Service may incorporate technology of Massive Incorporated ("Massive"), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation ("Microsoft"), that enables in-game advertising, and the display of other similar in-game objects, which are downloaded temporarily to your personal computer and replaced during online game play. As part of this process, Massive may collect some information about the game and the advertisements delivered to you, as well as standard information that is sent when your personal computer or game console connects to the Internet including your Internet protocol (IP) address. Massive will use this information to transmit and measure in-game advertising, as well as to improve the products and services of Massive and its affiliates. None of the information collected by Massive will be used to identify you. For additional details regarding Massive's in-game advertising practices, please see Massive's In-Game Advertising privacy statement at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=122085&clcid=0x409. The trademarks and copyrighted material contained in all in-game advertising are the property of the respective owners. Portions of the Service are © 2008 Massive Incorporated. All rights reserved.

Goddammit Blizzard.

Lol what, you are joking right? You have to be?
Now they want to reserve the right to install adaware on my computer as well?
Seriously?
Wtf.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
May 29 2010 17:59 GMT
#80
On May 30 2010 01:34 Night[7] wrote:
I voted yes and wouldn't post except people seem to want to know why.

Now I don't think B.net is perfect, far from it. No chat channels and similar issues will inevitable bring down the "B.net experience".

Lack of overall ranking

This is UNNECESSARY. Let's look at the TSL ladder. That's basically an overall ranking of the participating players. Was it accurate? No. Neither was the iCCup ladder and an overall B.net ladder wouldn't be accurate either. The only reason to have 1 big ladder would be to satisfy your own astoundingly big egos.

Tournaments decide who is better. Not ladders.

No chat channels

This I find one of the most serious issues. But you can indeed connect with anyone you want anyway so I don't consider it to be breaking B.net.

No cross server play allowed

This made me mad.

Inability to change nicknames

You actually put this as a problem? Obviously you are running out of issues and just want to hate on Blizzard.

No LAN feature

This has been done to death and while I personally would prefer a LAN feature I can live with it and overall it won't change that much.

Inability to host games by name and password

This again I find annoying. This should be available.

Online replays

Blizzard stated their reasons for these and I mostly agree. The only argument I see is that you can copy someone elses build. But people have proven quite capable of doing that just by watching VODS.

So overall yes I like the way B.net is heading. Although some changes are needed.


Actually no, you didnt like it but you are too much of a wuss to lay a finger against mighty blizzard.

youd rather be complacent with their faults since thats how they roll nowdays.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 216
Tasteless 85
ProTech68
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 1025
Leta 525
PianO 266
Snow 40
Dewaltoss 24
Bale 19
Icarus 10
League of Legends
JimRising 764
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K690
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King174
Other Games
summit1g9684
monkeys_forever474
WinterStarcraft369
Maynarde154
SortOf78
NeuroSwarm53
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick41719
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH314
• practicex 45
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo977
• Rush597
• masondota2247
Other Games
• Scarra1963
• Shiphtur319
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5h 12m
WardiTV European League
11h 12m
MaNa vs sebesdes
Mixu vs Fjant
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs goblin
Gerald vs Babymarine
Krystianer vs YoungYakov
PiGosaur Monday
19h 12m
The PondCast
1d 5h
WardiTV European League
1d 7h
Jumy vs NightPhoenix
Percival vs Nicoract
ArT vs HiGhDrA
MaxPax vs Harstem
Scarlett vs Shameless
SKillous vs uThermal
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 11h
Replay Cast
1d 19h
RSL Revival
2 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs Reynor
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs Cure
[ Show More ]
FEL
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
FEL
4 days
FEL
4 days
CSO Cup
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
Bonyth vs QiaoGege
Dewalt vs Fengzi
Hawk vs Zhanhun
Sziky vs Mihu
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Sziky
Fengzi vs Hawk
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
FEL
5 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
5 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
QiaoGege vs Dewalt
Hawk vs Bonyth
Sziky vs Fengzi
Mihu vs Zhanhun
QiaoGege vs Zhanhun
Fengzi vs Mihu
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 20
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025

Upcoming

2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSL Xiamen Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.