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Do you like the direction B.net 2.0 is taking? - Page 4

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EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
May 29 2010 14:29 GMT
#61
people are probably voting yes for the sake of voting yes
savior did nothing wrong
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 15:06:59
May 29 2010 14:39 GMT
#62
Overall, I'd have to say No. It's not to say I don't see a lot of potential with the current framework. I think it just needs to accommodate more feedback from the fans, rather than solely being "their image".


Criticizing people for voting yes is pretty unfair. For a lot of people, chat channels are not an important thing (myself included), or the fact that it just doesn't seem polished (which is my issue) is not a concern for some. People assume everyone else has the same vision as to what is important to a good b.net experience, and that is just the wrong way to look at it. B.net does effectively get you into games pretty quickly, and the match ups are fairly decent. To a lot of people, B.net is a means to get them into games, and for them to say they like B.net for this reason is 100% justified.
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1076 Posts
May 29 2010 14:49 GMT
#63
Who the fuck voted yes...
They should explain their reasons here...
BW forever!
sLiMpoweR
Profile Joined March 2009
United States430 Posts
May 29 2010 14:54 GMT
#64
While i voted no i can see while some people voted yes. Its much easier to find games against similar skilled opponents. From the casual gamers perspective you dont lose much without chat channels because on bnet 1.0 they never left brood war usa-1 anyway. And instead of having to search through 3v3 bgh and and fastest games you can now quickly find a game and play.
Team aMg
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
May 29 2010 15:04 GMT
#65
On May 29 2010 23:54 sLiMpoweR wrote:
While i voted no i can see while some people voted yes. Its much easier to find games against similar skilled opponents. From the casual gamers perspective you dont lose much without chat channels because on bnet 1.0 they never left brood war usa-1 anyway. And instead of having to search through 3v3 bgh and and fastest games you can now quickly find a game and play.

You mean like automatchmaking that existed in wc3? (Only broken because of lack of players, not functionality)
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
May 29 2010 15:18 GMT
#66
On May 29 2010 23:54 sLiMpoweR wrote:
While i voted no i can see while some people voted yes. Its much easier to find games against similar skilled opponents. From the casual gamers perspective you dont lose much without chat channels because on bnet 1.0 they never left brood war usa-1 anyway. And instead of having to search through 3v3 bgh and and fastest games you can now quickly find a game and play.

AMM was already present in bnet 1.0 (wc3)
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BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
May 29 2010 15:30 GMT
#67
[] no xrealm
[] no chat
[] no overall ranking
[x] facebook

no thx
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
Axonn
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia287 Posts
May 29 2010 15:46 GMT
#68
On May 29 2010 14:58 Ysorigin wrote:
Calling it right now! The poll is going to be 90% no and 10% yes!


Almost there
NO definitely
haterade
Profile Joined May 2010
7 Posts
May 29 2010 15:57 GMT
#69
I don't understand the hostility towards facebook integration. If you don't want it, don't use it and that way your facebook "friends" that you seem to hate won't be able to find you.

But anyway I voted no because they are using the same logic that Infinity Ward used to justify their lack of dedicated servers. "If we make IWnet good, people won't want dedicated servers". "If we make matchmaking good, people won't want chat channels".

Don't tell me what I want.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
May 29 2010 15:58 GMT
#70
I'd like to hear more from those that voted Yes (other than trolls and people who who somehow think this will keep BW as popular as it is)
TLOBrian
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States453 Posts
May 29 2010 16:14 GMT
#71
I voted No. Battlenet 0.2 is horrible. But on another note, I found THIS in the updated ULA.

Massive.
Blizzard's Games and the Service may incorporate technology of Massive Incorporated ("Massive"), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation ("Microsoft"), that enables in-game advertising, and the display of other similar in-game objects, which are downloaded temporarily to your personal computer and replaced during online game play. As part of this process, Massive may collect some information about the game and the advertisements delivered to you, as well as standard information that is sent when your personal computer or game console connects to the Internet including your Internet protocol (IP) address. Massive will use this information to transmit and measure in-game advertising, as well as to improve the products and services of Massive and its affiliates. None of the information collected by Massive will be used to identify you. For additional details regarding Massive's in-game advertising practices, please see Massive's In-Game Advertising privacy statement at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=122085&clcid=0x409. The trademarks and copyrighted material contained in all in-game advertising are the property of the respective owners. Portions of the Service are © 2008 Massive Incorporated. All rights reserved.

Goddammit Blizzard.
Steven Bonnell II is the friggin man.
Spinks
Profile Joined April 2010
South Africa23 Posts
May 29 2010 16:33 GMT
#72
Lol i dont understand blizzard...

With all the votes, emails and opinons it can easily be seen that the majority of the community do not like the direction that sc2 was taken.
Since blizzard is all for the players, why are we still having to deal with these stupid problems?

Wc3 was and still is a great game, why cant they just have the lan and bnet settings the same?

It worked for wc3 so why the **** change it?

You guys agree?
Night[7]
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden31 Posts
May 29 2010 16:34 GMT
#73
I voted yes and wouldn't post except people seem to want to know why.

Now I don't think B.net is perfect, far from it. No chat channels and similar issues will inevitable bring down the "B.net experience".

Lack of overall ranking

This is UNNECESSARY. Let's look at the TSL ladder. That's basically an overall ranking of the participating players. Was it accurate? No. Neither was the iCCup ladder and an overall B.net ladder wouldn't be accurate either. The only reason to have 1 big ladder would be to satisfy your own astoundingly big egos.

Tournaments decide who is better. Not ladders.

No chat channels

This I find one of the most serious issues. But you can indeed connect with anyone you want anyway so I don't consider it to be breaking B.net.

No cross server play allowed

This made me mad.

Inability to change nicknames

You actually put this as a problem? Obviously you are running out of issues and just want to hate on Blizzard.

No LAN feature

This has been done to death and while I personally would prefer a LAN feature I can live with it and overall it won't change that much.

Inability to host games by name and password

This again I find annoying. This should be available.

Online replays

Blizzard stated their reasons for these and I mostly agree. The only argument I see is that you can copy someone elses build. But people have proven quite capable of doing that just by watching VODS.

So overall yes I like the way B.net is heading. Although some changes are needed.
climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
May 29 2010 16:35 GMT
#74
I voted no. I really miss my chatrooms. I feel its just one of those things that b.net needs.
Twitter: @JonathanRosales
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 29 2010 16:52 GMT
#75
On May 29 2010 15:46 Renaissance wrote:
People voting no are trolls, or family or friends of Blizzard.

I'm family, and I voted no :D
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
May 29 2010 17:33 GMT
#76
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SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
May 29 2010 17:34 GMT
#77
On May 29 2010 15:48 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 15:46 Renaissance wrote:
People voting no are trolls, or family or friends of Blizzard.

I think you're the troll here.

Assuming you have confused 'no' with 'yes' on purpose...


You both are, now stop talking about it.

On a more serious note. BNET 2.0 is taking one step forward two steps back with every single iteration it produces, and every time we hear anyone at Blizzard talk about it one thing is quite clear to me. They have absolutely no idea whatsoever what features fans want, and are taking a completely stubborn approach to developing the Beta as whole. They ask us for feedback, and then disregard all of it in favor of 'we've got a whole lot of data to sift through'. Guess what? Data isn't going to be the saving grace of any video game, it may help fix overall balance in a race vs race situation however the fact of the matter is that without taking an actual look at the hands-on game play (by more than Blizzard handful of in-house Beta testers oh wait I'm talking about a BETA!). If SC2B was like any other Beta I've ever been in the company producing it would actually read and respect the opinions of players, but wait there is more. Rather than using simply a direct-submit form like was used with the WC3 and all Blizzard Betas prior to this they choose to use a 4 different section forum like the did with WoW Beta. And what happened? Threads get buried in second buy noobs and trolls spamming useless banter, a direct-submit system would the only way to make sure Blizzard sees the legitimate testers reports, but that won't happen because they've got their all precious data. The game as a whole is okay, but the presentation we are currently seeing is far and away from what I would have expected.
i-bonjwa
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
May 29 2010 17:46 GMT
#78
Didn't know there are 355 blizz employees on this forum.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
May 29 2010 17:57 GMT
#79
On May 30 2010 01:14 TLOBrian wrote:
I voted No. Battlenet 0.2 is horrible. But on another note, I found THIS in the updated ULA.

Massive.
Blizzard's Games and the Service may incorporate technology of Massive Incorporated ("Massive"), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation ("Microsoft"), that enables in-game advertising, and the display of other similar in-game objects, which are downloaded temporarily to your personal computer and replaced during online game play. As part of this process, Massive may collect some information about the game and the advertisements delivered to you, as well as standard information that is sent when your personal computer or game console connects to the Internet including your Internet protocol (IP) address. Massive will use this information to transmit and measure in-game advertising, as well as to improve the products and services of Massive and its affiliates. None of the information collected by Massive will be used to identify you. For additional details regarding Massive's in-game advertising practices, please see Massive's In-Game Advertising privacy statement at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=122085&clcid=0x409. The trademarks and copyrighted material contained in all in-game advertising are the property of the respective owners. Portions of the Service are © 2008 Massive Incorporated. All rights reserved.

Goddammit Blizzard.

Lol what, you are joking right? You have to be?
Now they want to reserve the right to install adaware on my computer as well?
Seriously?
Wtf.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
May 29 2010 17:59 GMT
#80
On May 30 2010 01:34 Night[7] wrote:
I voted yes and wouldn't post except people seem to want to know why.

Now I don't think B.net is perfect, far from it. No chat channels and similar issues will inevitable bring down the "B.net experience".

Lack of overall ranking

This is UNNECESSARY. Let's look at the TSL ladder. That's basically an overall ranking of the participating players. Was it accurate? No. Neither was the iCCup ladder and an overall B.net ladder wouldn't be accurate either. The only reason to have 1 big ladder would be to satisfy your own astoundingly big egos.

Tournaments decide who is better. Not ladders.

No chat channels

This I find one of the most serious issues. But you can indeed connect with anyone you want anyway so I don't consider it to be breaking B.net.

No cross server play allowed

This made me mad.

Inability to change nicknames

You actually put this as a problem? Obviously you are running out of issues and just want to hate on Blizzard.

No LAN feature

This has been done to death and while I personally would prefer a LAN feature I can live with it and overall it won't change that much.

Inability to host games by name and password

This again I find annoying. This should be available.

Online replays

Blizzard stated their reasons for these and I mostly agree. The only argument I see is that you can copy someone elses build. But people have proven quite capable of doing that just by watching VODS.

So overall yes I like the way B.net is heading. Although some changes are needed.


Actually no, you didnt like it but you are too much of a wuss to lay a finger against mighty blizzard.

youd rather be complacent with their faults since thats how they roll nowdays.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
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