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Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 23 2010 11:49 GMT
#541
Yeah, Jaedong played amazingly. I feel bad for both players. I also agree that Flash and Jaedong are standing on top of SC right now, and neither of them will probably get far enough ahead of the other to earn bonjwa status, now.

I'm just really disappointed tonight. Not that Flash lost, but that it happened like this. I'm sure Jaedong isn't happy about it either. MSL looked like a sick dog that needed to be put out of its misery, what with Jaedong awkwardly trying to smile and what sounded like 3 or 4 fangirls total making noise.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
January 23 2010 11:56 GMT
#542
jaedong looked really sad i agree and flash was just like this thing is a joke.

however, i think it proved pretty conclusively that jaedong is still a force to be reckoned with and still playing at an astonishingly high level, for anyone who doubted that.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
January 23 2010 12:10 GMT
#543
#1 (T)Flash
#2 (Z)Jaedong
#3 (Z)Power Outage
din
Profile Joined October 2009
Hungary27 Posts
January 23 2010 12:10 GMT
#544
hmm... Flash will be surely Nr.1 on February PR, but I will also get a headache on the comments of childish jd fanboys :D
din
Profile Joined October 2009
Hungary27 Posts
January 23 2010 12:14 GMT
#545
On January 23 2010 21:10 Scorch wrote:
#1 (T)Flash
#2 (Z)Jaedong
#3 (Z)Power Outage


That report ruins ELO...
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
January 23 2010 13:07 GMT
#546
well, flash should keep his #1, but I think we all saw that JD is aprox at the same skill level with him. When Jaedong owned, no one was this close to him (maybe fantasy, but ...nah). I hope the bonjwa talk will end here.
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-23 13:17:53
January 23 2010 13:10 GMT
#547
On January 23 2010 21:10 din wrote:
hmm... Flash will be surely Nr.1 on February PR, but I will also get a headache on the comments of childish jd fanboys :D


Nah i'm pretty satisfied with Jaedong's showing . He showed that he can compete with Flash and saved us from "OMG Flash is an invincible bonjwa comments " . Not that i disagree with Flash being a bonjwa , but i think Jaedong deserves it just as much even thought Flash is the better player right now . It pains me thought that "super natural powers" had to take place in their series ....
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 23 2010 13:20 GMT
#548
Jaedong and Flash are both the best players.
Jaedong played it abit more risky this series giving him an edge.
3hatch before pool in 2 games as opposed to flash not going for 14CC or 1suply CC any game.

I felt that jaedong was ahead buildorderwise in all games except game nr1. so imo its not enough to put him ahead of flash.
Jaedong played great though..
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 23 2010 13:24 GMT
#549
On January 23 2010 22:20 StylishVODs wrote:
Jaedong and Flash are both the best players.
Jaedong played it abit more risky this series giving him an edge.
3hatch before pool in 2 games as opposed to flash not going for 14CC or 1suply CC any game.

I felt that jaedong was ahead buildorderwise in all games except game nr1. so imo its not enough to put him ahead of flash.
Jaedong played great though..


You know one rax cc>12 hatch 11pool BO-wise?

There is no even BO in any of the tvp, tvz, zvp matchups. There will always be one with the better BO.

Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 23 2010 13:27 GMT
#550
no, I didn't know that.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-23 14:03:43
January 23 2010 14:02 GMT
#551
Since the "Flash bonjwa" hype must be dying, how about bringing back good old "zerg imba" discussion?

Seriously, what's the deal with units that can't be killed?

Edit: oops, I intended to post this is another thread. But I guess it's equally off-topic here.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
January 23 2010 14:04 GMT
#552
On January 23 2010 21:10 Scorch wrote:
#1 (T)Flash
#2 (Z)Jaedong
#3 (Z)Power Outage


Switch 1 and 3, imo. How many players can say they've beaten down the best player in the game so badly that they're reduced to tears and their father goes nuts?
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 23 2010 14:30 GMT
#553
On January 23 2010 23:02 okum wrote:
Since the "Flash bonjwa" hype must be dying, how about bringing back good old "zerg imba" discussion?

Seriously, what's the deal with units that can't be killed?

Edit: oops, I intended to post this is another thread. But I guess it's equally off-topic here.


why would it die?
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 23 2010 14:41 GMT
#554
On January 23 2010 23:30 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 23:02 okum wrote:
Since the "Flash bonjwa" hype must be dying, how about bringing back good old "zerg imba" discussion?

Seriously, what's the deal with units that can't be killed?

Edit: oops, I intended to post this is another thread. But I guess it's equally off-topic here.


why would it die?

Because the games showed that Jaedong is capable of playing on Flash's level. There cannot be 2 bonjwa's at the same time.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 23 2010 14:46 GMT
#555
Bah bonjwa is a wierd word...
jaedong and flash are both best players.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-23 15:11:34
January 23 2010 14:51 GMT
#556
On January 23 2010 23:41 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 23:30 StylishVODs wrote:
On January 23 2010 23:02 okum wrote:
Since the "Flash bonjwa" hype must be dying, how about bringing back good old "zerg imba" discussion?

Seriously, what's the deal with units that can't be killed?

Edit: oops, I intended to post this is another thread. But I guess it's equally off-topic here.


why would it die?

Because the games showed that Jaedong is capable of playing on Flash's level. There cannot be 2 bonjwa's at the same time.


JD out played him on imba maps... That is not Bonjwa level.

EDIT: sry wanted to respond to StylishVOD
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
January 23 2010 14:57 GMT
#557
On January 23 2010 23:51 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 23:41 Holgerius wrote:
On January 23 2010 23:30 StylishVODs wrote:
On January 23 2010 23:02 okum wrote:
Since the "Flash bonjwa" hype must be dying, how about bringing back good old "zerg imba" discussion?

Seriously, what's the deal with units that can't be killed?

Edit: oops, I intended to post this is another thread. But I guess it's equally off-topic here.


why would it die?

Because the games showed that Jaedong is capable of playing on Flash's level. There cannot be 2 bonjwa's at the same time.


JD out played him on imba maps... That is not Bonjwa level.

well thats what Holgerius said, that he's not a bonjwa..what are u tryin` to prove?
there simply won`t be any more bonjwas...so what?
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 23 2010 15:01 GMT
#558
I don't think you can say that any other zerg could've played like JD did in game 3.... That was spectacular. Anyways, JD is looking quite good once again. His ZvP is in its finest form. His ZvT is looking quite strong (I mean come on, his only losses lately have come from flash, and sea), and his ZvZ is looking strong as well. With winners league coming up I fully expect him to go into monster mode. Seeing flash breaking all sorts of records has probably made him hungry to break some of his own records.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 23 2010 15:05 GMT
#559
Well, Flash is playing on bonjwa level; look at his record during the season. Ridiculous ELO peak, by far the best player in PL, winner of OSL (where he beat JD on the way) and MSL finalist. Savior never dominated this hard. The problem is that Jaedong is fucking sick as well and can obviously play good games against Flash. Plus he has won 5 Starleagues. We need a new term to classify these amazing GOAT candidates. They're above S-class and they can't both be bonjwa.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 23 2010 17:41 GMT
#560
All I ask is for JD at number two as expected.
Jaedong
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