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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
"While beginning the month with two wins against his nemesis EffOrt, Jaedong also lost to Orion in the same semi final, and then went on to get stomped by a SKT led by frontman Fantasy in the Proleague Grand Finals, letting down his team, and as his fans would say, himself." I was 100% certain it was riptide =D No one writes in the same way. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Nylan
United States795 Posts
On September 01 2009 01:50 vaMpYr wrote: good post =) . hyuk instead of effort is a really good question , the STX masters finals really impressed me . but to comment this PR , fantasy #2 is NOT possible . he lost too many games in a pathetic way . the PL finals is not everything . bisu deserve EASILY the #2 spot , watch his games against luxury stork and flash and even perfectman . he is REALLY SCARY . bisu is the ONLY ONE who can be compare to jaedong , he is the ONLY ONE who can give a game to jaedong without let him being the favourite . the WCG will be maybe the best EVER . i miss androide =( . iris above kwanro is not possible too . kwanro played really well this month killed iris and zero . last month he RAPED flash , he deserve more than iris . iris 3 2 vs bisu is his ONLY performance this month . he got RAPED by flash and perfectman , he does NOT deserve more than the #9 spot . 1. jaedong 2. bisu 3. calm 4. fantasy 5. flash or kwanro 6. kwanro or flash 7. yarnc or stork 8. stork or yarnc 9. iris 10. effort or hyuk THIS IS THE GOOD PR . IM THE MASTER OF HUMANS . JUST DONT SPEAK AND FOLLOW MY WAY . ^^ joking :p For someone who claims to hate Bisu and not mind Fantasy, you sure do put down the latter and talk up a storm about how awesome the former is. | ||
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okum
France5776 Posts
Maybe also Calm above Fantasy, not sure about that. At least all 10 people on the rank deserve to be there, and all are *roughly* in the right spots, so not much to complain about overall. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Like some others, I would probably have done Jaedong/Calm/Bisu/Fantasy, but I can see how your rank works out, both because PL/MSL Quarters feel longer ago than they actually were, and because Calm has had the lucky break of only needing to practice one matchup. Also, good to see the CBNC mention of Hyuk.  I wonder how next month will play out given that we have such a dry month coming up. | ||
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okum
France5776 Posts
On September 01 2009 02:22 TheYango wrote: I wonder how next month will play out given that we have such a dry month coming up. The horror -_- I suggest TL members join forces to sponsor a September Tournament where the existing PR top 10 can duke it out solely to decide their respective positions on the next rank. | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
Oh, and good luck at law school JWD! | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
Even though I'd place Hyuk instead of Effort (Yeah I know, Blizzcon is a tourny but it's SC BW PR is about, not SC2, sorry to say it, but thats either a bit CJ biased of forgetting the other thing). Edit; Kwanro needs a pokemon nickname. | ||
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nodule
Canada931 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
for what it's woth, I don't mind the CBNC format, but I think the player names should at least be linked to their TLPD pages. | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
That said, I like the rest of the rank and your writing. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 01 2009 03:39 3clipse wrote: I really don't like Fantasy at #2- I'd have placed him at #4 or #5. When you have two Starleague winners, they really both deserve either 1st and 2nd place, barring extraordinary circumstances. Lets see, Jaedong is still Jaedong (despite some blunders resulting from FA stress), and he made the semi's of the MSL. No problem there. Calm not only won the MSL, but 3-1'd the greatest ZvZer in SC history and front-runner for #1. I think a player would have had to have had a flawless month break up the top 2, and Fantasy certianly did not, losing as many games vs big names as he won. He was certainly the centerpiece of T1 during their victorious PL finals, but he never had a chance to impress with a big bo5. Oh wait, he did. And he lost. I guess we could always use the standard "oh come on, it's Jaedong" excuse. Calm didn't have to. That said, I like the rest of the rank and your writing. IMO the thing that keeps Calm from the #2 or #1 spot is that he only had to play one matchup all month (ok, he played one non ZvZ match, but that's ZvBest; no A-class Zerg needs to practice that), where every other contender for that spot had to play all their matchups. While I'm not trying to take away from his achievement, I still don't think I'd put my money on him in a Bo5 against Jaedong or Bisu (Fantasy is a bit harder to judge; I don't 100% agree with him at #2, but at the same time, I'm not sure Calm deserves #2 off 1 matchup). | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 01 2009 03:55 TheYango wrote: IMO the thing that keeps Calm from the #2 or #1 spot is that he only had to play one matchup all month (ok, he played one non ZvZ match, but that's ZvBest; no A-class Zerg needs to practice that), where every other contender for that spot had to play all their matchups. While I'm not trying to take away from his achievement, I still don't think I'd put my money on him in a Bo5 against Jaedong or Bisu (Fantasy is a bit harder to judge; I don't 100% agree with him at #2, but at the same time, I'm not sure Calm deserves #2 off 1 matchup). If it's not calm, it's someone else. Fantasy isn't #2 material. Except in the OSL. | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
On September 01 2009 03:55 TheYango wrote: IMO the thing that keeps Calm from the #2 or #1 spot is that he only had to play one matchup all month (ok, he played one non ZvZ match, but that's ZvBest; no A-class Zerg needs to practice that), where every other contender for that spot had to play all their matchups. While I'm not trying to take away from his achievement, I still don't think I'd put my money on him in a Bo5 against Jaedong or Bisu (Fantasy is a bit harder to judge; I don't 100% agree with him at #2, but at the same time, I'm not sure Calm deserves #2 off 1 matchup). I see your point. But here's the thing; it's common knowledge that ZvZ has traditionally been Calm's weakest matchup. He's already proven his ZvT and ZvP prowess. This is the month it all came together for Calm. He not only won his first Starleague, but he's proven that he can play every matchup exquisitely, taking out both players we used to think were untouchable as the top two zergs. Easily deserved #2 spot, with Bisu being a stronger candidate for #3 than Fantasy (not a huge issue for me though). | ||
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
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vaMpYr
France119 Posts
On September 01 2009 04:23 3clipse wrote: I see your point. But here's the thing; it's common knowledge that ZvZ has traditionally been Calm's weakest matchup. He's already proven his ZvT and ZvP prowess. This is the month it all came together for Calm. He not only won his firts Starleague, but he's proven that he can play every matchup exquisitely, taking out both players we used to think were untouchable as the top two zergs. Easily deserved #2 spot, with Bisu being a stronger candidate for #3 than Fantasy (not a huge issue for me though). nothing to say more . i think people are underestimate bisu and calm and overestimate fantasy a lot . i think we will see some fun results in the next season ^^ . JAEDONG STORK CALM AND KAL FIGHTING !!! OZ FIGHTING STX FIGHTING ESTRO FIGHTING HITE FIGHTING SKT TO HELL | ||
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mg
88 Posts
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tedster
984 Posts
Bisu, on the other hand, didn't even get close to delivering a specific performance to put him on the border of a #1 ranking. Part of it was him getting creamed in individual leagues, and part was him not being matched up against JD in PL finals, but regardless he hasn't delivered a "nearly #1 performance" and couldn't possibly deserve a higher rank than Calm. Fantasy is... probably misplaced. Do I think he's either the second or third best player in the world? Absolutely. But he probably should be #3, behind Calm, or #4, behind Bisu, both of whom have delivered a bit more consistently. Fantasy deserves no worse than #4 for his ridiculous PL finals, and his games against JD were very, very close, but in the end he left us wanting. | ||
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Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
I like the placements, JD and Calm are title holders they have to lead the rank, however Bisu could have been #2 or #3 after Calm, he's just crazy crazy strong lately, he didn't succeed in starleagues, but it's the same with fantasy. His micro vs Flash in game 3 was the most impressive i've ever seen from protoss. | ||
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