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What do you think about SC2 after BlizzCon 2K9?

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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
August 23 2009 00:52 GMT
#1
Personally, the gameplay panel and the exhibition matches convinced me that SC2 is in good hands.

It might take a few months after release to get the game perfect, but it's gonna be worth it.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
AlTheCake
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1071 Posts
August 23 2009 01:01 GMT
#2
To be honest, I wanted to pick so excited (which I am!), but I just love Dustin Browder more haha
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
August 23 2009 01:01 GMT
#3
That 2v2 looked hellafun. Can't wait to get my hands on this now.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
August 23 2009 01:02 GMT
#4
Have to agree with the dirty Belgian.
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prOxi.Beater
Profile Joined December 2008
Denmark626 Posts
August 23 2009 01:03 GMT
#5
I'm convinced I can do better and they all sucked. In short, I'm already hooked! :D
Nobody beats the Beater
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
August 23 2009 01:04 GMT
#6
i dont like it... i hope to be wrong =(
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
August 23 2009 01:06 GMT
#7
the gameplay looked awesome but whats really exciting are the possibilities of ums
fuck lag
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
August 23 2009 01:12 GMT
#8
Starcraft is worth it.
I've got high hopes for the game.
So much cheese to learn.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
August 23 2009 01:15 GMT
#9
Too excited to think xAFSAWwoffles.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
August 23 2009 01:31 GMT
#10
The game is on a good street, we will complete the city.
Blyf
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Denmark408 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 01:36:06
August 23 2009 01:35 GMT
#11
On August 23 2009 10:03 prOxi.Beater wrote:
I'm convinced I can do better and they all sucked. In short, I'm already hooked! :D


What the hell. You went all the way from Denmark to blizzcon?

I'm so jealous
"ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" - Charles Darwin --- wtf? begets isn't a word. quit trying to make up words, fuckface. - Some idiot --- D3 Evelynn main with a side of Ashe/Tristana
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
August 23 2009 01:52 GMT
#12
I had forgotten how fast it looks. Man.
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
August 23 2009 01:54 GMT
#13
for me, everything about sc2 was about as expected except the pay for maps feature.
hi
Koof
Profile Joined June 2008
United States66 Posts
August 23 2009 02:19 GMT
#14
Looks great, as usual. Still want beta out, really, REALLY badly.
LeperKahn
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Romania1839 Posts
August 23 2009 02:39 GMT
#15
Looks great as a spectator sport, but all of the gameplay concerns are still there for me.
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redmarine
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark165 Posts
August 23 2009 02:52 GMT
#16
This.

Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
August 23 2009 03:19 GMT
#17
On August 23 2009 11:52 redmarine wrote:
This.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joNPrnY4K_4

Its great to see the editor in action but this doesn't change how much I'm looking forward to SC2, I already knew everything shown was possible in the editor. They make some of it sound easier than it is though.
♞
drivec
Profile Joined May 2009
United States354 Posts
August 23 2009 04:09 GMT
#18
i think this is great. i kinda thought the maps the exibitions were played on were kinda small but i could be wrong.
starcraft is chess at warp speed
Guilty
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada812 Posts
August 23 2009 05:58 GMT
#19
from an observers stand point the 2v2 seemed like a total mess of units; i couldnt tell one team from the other, or even the colours apart. I expect this will be cleared up once i get more familiar with the game but sc:bw is so simple to tell the colours apart. Death animation are still not clear enough for my taste. Gameplay is more important that asthetics!!!
"How hard could it be?" -J. Clarkson
samwang
Profile Joined August 2009
China7 Posts
August 23 2009 06:00 GMT
#20
i am gonna have to buy a new computer to run sc2.....
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
August 23 2009 07:00 GMT
#21
not well informed but from what little i know i see no reason to feel anything other than contempt for dustin browder
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[uci] Fizik
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States263 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 07:04:48
August 23 2009 07:04 GMT
#22
Automine for zerg, kool. Zerg itself, God please make changes.
I felt everything new and good requires Hive Tech and its just too slow to acquire compared to the tech speed and strength of the other races and their units.
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hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
August 23 2009 07:12 GMT
#23
Actually, zerg 1 hatch hydra works wonders when it shouldn't. It's pretty scary to a protoss. A Blizzard guy overheard my friend and me talking about PvZ, and he said, "Let me know if you ever figure out how FE works, because none of us have figured it out."

He also said that he loves GOM, and that practically everyone on the SCII team follows pro-gaming. They also read/lurk on TL every day. Hi Blizzard
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
August 23 2009 07:27 GMT
#24
On August 23 2009 16:12 hazelynut wrote:
Actually, zerg 1 hatch hydra works wonders when it shouldn't. It's pretty scary to a protoss. A Blizzard guy overheard my friend and me talking about PvZ, and he said, "Let me know if you ever figure out how FE works, because none of us have figured it out."

He also said that he loves GOM, and that practically everyone on the SCII team follows pro-gaming. They also read/lurk on TL every day. Hi Blizzard


hey dustin if you're reading, i demand a beta key
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 23 2009 07:33 GMT
#25
I used to think it would be terrible. In fact it is so much fun. Zerg is imba, but that's okay. The game is really fast and difficult, especially for Terran IMO, at the "fast" speed setting. Ridiculous.
Peace~
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
August 23 2009 07:35 GMT
#26
I'm excited more for the UMS and world editor that they're adding because there wasn't much new stuff on the front of actual gameplay. Tosh and Mengsk are fucking badass though.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
leomon
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada169 Posts
August 23 2009 07:40 GMT
#27
still think SC2 will be the best game to come ever.

Still can't wait for it
Radians
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
August 23 2009 07:40 GMT
#28
I don't understand how so many people think its gonna suck. Im personally very excited for it. I don't know if its gonna be the absolute best game ever but Im highly anticipating it.
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
August 23 2009 08:57 GMT
#29
On August 23 2009 15:00 samwang wrote:
i am gonna have to buy a new computer to run sc2.....

Me too, but it won't be a problem since i'm already so excited about sc2.
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KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
August 23 2009 09:03 GMT
#30
On August 23 2009 11:52 redmarine wrote:
This.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joNPrnY4K_4


Holy shiit, i cant wait right now. Must play SC2 and all FPS UMS maps shiit O_O
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
NiTenIchiRyu
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom273 Posts
August 23 2009 10:23 GMT
#31
On August 23 2009 16:33 fanatacist wrote:
Zerg is imba

LOL WUT?

Can't wait to get my hands on SC2
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
August 23 2009 13:35 GMT
#32
The reason SC1's game engine was completely rewritten was because they didn't want it to be a "warcraft in space". IMO it seems like sc2 is turning into a "warcraft in space"
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
August 23 2009 15:28 GMT
#33
I am excited for it, as long as they stop fucking it up i'll be perfectly happy. If they keep going in the direction of "HURR MONEY OVER CUSTOMERS YOU PAY $5 A GAME" then i won't even bother to download it.
U Gotta Skate.
Postaljester
Profile Joined December 2002
United States128 Posts
August 23 2009 15:44 GMT
#34
someone said that we have to pay for map packs... any info on this?
If you cant do something well, learn to enjoy doing it poorly
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
August 23 2009 16:01 GMT
#35
On August 23 2009 11:52 redmarine wrote:
This.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joNPrnY4K_4

that sold me... i want to play a sc fps
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kerr0r
Profile Joined September 2008
Norway319 Posts
August 23 2009 16:11 GMT
#36
Why so little <3 for Dustin?

On August 23 2009 22:35 dhe95 wrote:
The reason SC1's game engine was completely rewritten was because they didn't want it to be a "warcraft in space". IMO it seems like sc2 is turning into a "warcraft in space"

Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
August 23 2009 17:14 GMT
#37
[QUOTE]On August 24 2009 01:11 kerr0r wrote:


[QUOTE]On August 23 2009 22:35 dhe95 wrote:
The reason SC1's game engine was completely rewritten was because they didn't want it to be a "warcraft in space". IMO it seems like sc2 is turning into a "warcraft in space"[/QUOTE]

Your logic is completely flawed

SC1 Original engine was changed so that it wouldn't use WC2 engine and wouldn't be called warcraft in space.
SC2's engine isn't wc3 engine so obviously its warcraft in space?
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
August 23 2009 17:32 GMT
#38
SC2 is the new EVERYTHING in one game. BEST GAME EVER.
Hi.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
August 23 2009 20:45 GMT
#39
My opinion hasnt really changed. I am still very excited about the game. I am a little dissappointed about paying for maps, but I think I can be happy just playing ladder.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
August 23 2009 21:45 GMT
#40
lololololololol at the other bald guy (the one on right) : "Terrible terrible damage" HAHAHAHAHAH xD

also this editor is fucking awesome !!! :O
T H C makes ppl happy
GoAudio
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden400 Posts
August 23 2009 21:54 GMT
#41
i love dustin browder LMAO
EffOrt[fOu] & Hyvaa[S.G] <3 :D
Chocola
Profile Joined July 2009
United States6 Posts
August 23 2009 23:39 GMT
#42
Waiting to snatch a zerg collector's edition whenever it is ready =P
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
August 23 2009 23:46 GMT
#43
the way I feel about sc2 is the same way I feel about wc3

The engine will result in some awesome UMS and the game will live...

Nothing CAN or should try to replace starcraft in the RTS e-sports sense. The balance, game immersion and mechanics in SC and SC:BW is JUST RIGHT. You can create flashier engines and change units but the original is still the best.

So, in summary, like some people said, this will be a visually stimulating game that will result in some awesome UMS', but I expect and ask for nothing more.
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
starPride
Profile Joined June 2009
United States142 Posts
August 24 2009 00:20 GMT
#44
dustin browder personally teases us by saying terrible terrible damage everytime.
He is. a starcraft Legend
starPride
Profile Joined June 2009
United States142 Posts
August 24 2009 00:30 GMT
#45
On August 24 2009 08:46 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
the way I feel about sc2 is the same way I feel about wc3

The engine will result in some awesome UMS and the game will live...

Nothing CAN or should try to replace starcraft in the RTS e-sports sense. The balance, game immersion and mechanics in SC and SC:BW is JUST RIGHT. You can create flashier engines and change units but the original is still the best.

So, in summary, like some people said, this will be a visually stimulating game that will result in some awesome UMS', but I expect and ask for nothing more.

its more visually appealing to audiences. and is needed to further evolve e-sports. get such elitest attitude out of your head
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
August 24 2009 01:00 GMT
#46
No love for Dustin Browder.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
August 24 2009 03:25 GMT
#47
On August 24 2009 09:30 starPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 08:46 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
the way I feel about sc2 is the same way I feel about wc3

The engine will result in some awesome UMS and the game will live...

Nothing CAN or should try to replace starcraft in the RTS e-sports sense. The balance, game immersion and mechanics in SC and SC:BW is JUST RIGHT. You can create flashier engines and change units but the original is still the best.

So, in summary, like some people said, this will be a visually stimulating game that will result in some awesome UMS', but I expect and ask for nothing more.

its more visually appealing to audiences. and is needed to further evolve e-sports. get such elitest attitude out of your head


Shuuuuut up dude. In all the posts I've seen you make you are always calling someone elitist, either someone with a different opinion than you or "Starcraft fans in general." Maybe you are the one being stubborn and elitist, thinking you are better than "the rest" of the "normal SC" fans on this site and that your opinion is clearly right. Please come up with a real arguement sometime and quit assuming you are THE representative of the non SC playing public and that thus you clearly are more "objective" about SC2. Sorry to rip on you but it's obvious to me that you are a borderline bad poster/wave my epenis around semi-troll. Obviously he wasn't saying people didn't like better graphics or that the graphics were bad. Get it in your head. It's just harder to follow as a spectator atm and I agree with that as do many of my 18-23 year old demographic gaming friends who don't still play SC and aren't "SC ELITISTS OMG LOLOL"

Anyways to reply to OP, it looks hella fun to play and I'm sure it'll be awesome (auto surround has me a bit nervous) but as for watching it as a spectator I don't really feel it has the same charm yet
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
August 24 2009 03:42 GMT
#48
Blizzcon 07: I played SC2 twice and didn't think much of it.
Blizzcon 08: I played ~10 games and it was ok.
Blizzcon 09: I couldn't get enough SC2. It's completely awesome now, and I can't wait to see it in beta.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 07:35:07
August 24 2009 04:02 GMT
#49
This will probably be my last Blizzcon since SC2 will be released in '10. Been following the game ever since it was announced. The game has been improving leaps and bounds each following year. I'm sad no beta came out but it'll come eventually.

Edit: Oh yeah. Nerf David Kim.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
August 24 2009 05:02 GMT
#50
On August 23 2009 14:58 Guilty wrote:
from an observers stand point the 2v2 seemed like a total mess of units; i couldnt tell one team from the other, or even the colours apart. I expect this will be cleared up once i get more familiar with the game but sc:bw is so simple to tell the colours apart. Death animation are still not clear enough for my taste. Gameplay is more important that asthetics!!!

I found that to be true. I think its cuz in sc the units main appearance was programmed to change colour (like a teal and green goon looks TOTALLY different because the top was all changed), while in sc2 its a bit hard to tell... maybe it had to do with char layout of the map and maybe the players all got like black and dark blues :/. Also everyone is so used to the pixels in starcraft. We just have to get used to the 3D aspect.
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stevethemacguy
Profile Joined September 2008
United States137 Posts
August 24 2009 06:24 GMT
#51
Watching the live SC2 1v1 and 2v2 matches showed that SC2 is already extremely entertaining to watch so I think that's a very good sign. I'm not more excited now then I was before blizzcon, but I think SC2 will be a cool game. However, I doubt it will be playable at a SC-like professional level for a few years after it's release.
"What we do in life, echoes in eternity" -maximus decimus meridius
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
August 24 2009 07:47 GMT
#52
On August 23 2009 15:00 samwang wrote:
i am gonna have to buy a new computer to run sc2.....

Gotta do what you've gotta do!
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
August 24 2009 09:09 GMT
#53
I need a cautiously optimistic choice
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hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
August 24 2009 11:11 GMT
#54
I didn't realize this until just now when I cracked open SC1, but right now SC1 looks a little emptier and plainer to me. Is this blasphemous?

Even though the game might not be able to produce a platform for any competitive/professional gaming at first, that might be the most exciting part of SCII. We'll get to devise our own BOs and strategies, figuring out the balance in the game ourselves and designing the 3hat muta equivalent against Terran. We get to shape a metagame! What could be more fun than that?
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 24 2009 12:09 GMT
#55
don't care till betas out, wake me up when they announce the release date. only then will i be ecstatic like a little school girl
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
danieldrsa
Profile Joined June 2008
Brazil522 Posts
August 24 2009 19:30 GMT
#56
Seeing so many ppl thinking SC2 is gonna suck is no surprise to me.

Doesnt matter what, wich, who, how, whatever, the game is, it will be bad for them.
Happy these guys dont change nothing and are unheard.

And some ppl even dare to judge balance. I lol soo much when i see these kind of arguments.
I wish they play SC1 Beta and see how bad it was balanced. Based on 2d graphics the game was destined to failure for many ppl, since 3d was the way to go.
Because of that SC1 sucked?
Or the patches made the game the balance greatness it is today?
It doesnt matter, some ppl dont think.

Seeing how cool and how well its turning, SC2 is gonna be the best game ever, for sure.
Blizzard is indeed trying to make the best sequel of all time.
-*-
GrowingStronger
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Argentina18 Posts
August 24 2009 21:07 GMT
#57
I can imagine all the good maps that will be made in this amazing editor.
Buying starcraft 2 will grant you a lots of different games inside the other, like Dota/war3.
Cant wait for it!
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 23:45:46
August 24 2009 23:44 GMT
#58
I chose "it will suck" simply because of the 3D engine. Much like w3. And yes i've played thousand of games on it, and still when in melee combat, all i'm focusing is the bottom and top left on the screen. Because it's just a TOTAL mess. Impossible to know what's happening with all this stuff going on at the same time.
I've watched the battle report, and i fear it feels the same plus their colours aren't "brightier" which really really kills the game not only for me but also for the spectator point of view.
Even though they've improved a lot in the past months they still fail imo.
But it's still beta eh ? At least pre beta.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
August 25 2009 01:23 GMT
#59
i still can't understand why people don't think zerg can hack it.

in every game i've ever played(that was made right..) the fastest units are the best. u can't beat zerg speed and mobility and that is what will separate them from the other races once people get good enough with them. the reason zerg isn't winning as many games is because they're the hardest to learn((so far)this may change in later stages).

zerg may lack something, and i'm not arguing against that, but i doubt it's as much as most think.

i feel zerg is quite formidable at this point if for no other reason than zerglings. most imba unit ever.
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Apa7HY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States125 Posts
August 25 2009 01:36 GMT
#60
I'm noticing a hilarious trend in this thread where n00bs to TL.net love SC2 and can't wait to play it and bash people who like SC1 more, or aren't excited for SC2, and a lot of the old timer guys are saying they're unsure of whether SC2 will be good or not, or that they're "cautiously optimistic", etc. I fall on the side of the old timers (check my join date before you say anything) and I think SC2 will not be nearly as deep or as challenging as SC1, but I do think it will be fun, if not for the UMS. But paying for battle.net and map packs is fucking bullshit.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 01:47:30
August 25 2009 01:46 GMT
#61
as long as terrible terrible damage still exists, I don't think that the game is going to be as good as sc1.

that being said, it should still be a pretty cool game/

as other people have said, I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Liquid_sAviOr
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3 Posts
August 25 2009 02:56 GMT
#62
damn that editor preview was pretty cool, looks like ima need a better video card for SC2 thats IF i buy it...
When few appear many, When many appear few.
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
August 25 2009 07:22 GMT
#63
On August 24 2009 20:11 hazelynut wrote:
I didn't realize this until just now when I cracked open SC1, but right now SC1 looks a little emptier and plainer to me. Is this blasphemous?

Even though the game might not be able to produce a platform for any competitive/professional gaming at first, that might be the most exciting part of SCII. We'll get to devise our own BOs and strategies, figuring out the balance in the game ourselves and designing the 3hat muta equivalent against Terran. We get to shape a metagame! What could be more fun than that?


A brand new evolving metagame is going to be exciting, but I think it's a bit too optimistic to think of it as "we get to shape a metagame". As far as competitive play goes, those doing the following will always far outnumber those doing the shaping.
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
August 25 2009 07:39 GMT
#64
am i the only one who thinks Dustin Browder looks kind of like the monk in D3?
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
August 25 2009 14:17 GMT
#65
I'm not so sure about SC2. It has potential but the graphics are too detailed and messy imo, it's more about looks than gameplay it seems.

Also MBS, ugh. And the fact that they are sooo slow with releasing the game, christ.
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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
August 25 2009 14:44 GMT
#66
On August 25 2009 10:46 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
as long as terrible terrible damage still exists, I don't think that the game is going to be as good as sc1.

that being said, it should still be a pretty cool game/

as other people have said, I'm cautiously optimistic.

cw)minsean(ru
A.L.I.E.N.S
Profile Joined August 2009
France3 Posts
August 25 2009 14:52 GMT
#67
On August 25 2009 04:30 danieldrsa wrote:
Seeing so many ppl thinking SC2 is gonna suck is no surprise to me.

Doesnt matter what, wich, who, how, whatever, the game is, it will be bad for them.
Happy these guys dont change nothing and are unheard.

And some ppl even dare to judge balance. I lol soo much when i see these kind of arguments.
I wish they play SC1 Beta and see how bad it was balanced. Based on 2d graphics the game was destined to failure for many ppl, since 3d was the way to go.
Because of that SC1 sucked?
Or the patches made the game the balance greatness it is today?
It doesnt matter, some ppl dont think.

Seeing how cool and how well its turning, SC2 is gonna be the best game ever, for sure.
Blizzard is indeed trying to make the best sequel of all time.


Amen ?
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 16:25:12
August 25 2009 16:18 GMT
#68
I think SC2 is gonna suck some hard balls but regardless of expectations I will give it a try when I get the chance.

If I ever get a new computer and can afford it, then yeah I will buy SC2 right off the shelves if it ever even gets to Norway in time, even thou from when it was announced till this very day I have never been convinced otherwise than that "SC2 is gonna suck "

Time will tell what will eventually happend to the game on a world basis but other than that the loyal fans that we are should support SC2, I may not like Blizzard as much as the old days before WOW came along...but they still have my respect more than any other gaming company out there.

It's SC2 for god fucking`s sake, it's like the DNF of RTS games, the sequel that might have never been, but it's around the corner now creeping along and if you have a computer that can handle it and have some money to spare and don't know better, than buy the game and give it a chance.

However no matter what, ANY FAN of SC that has spent up to 11 years of their lives for this game has to give the sequel to the greatest one-and-only RTS game of all time a chance no matter what your expectations are.

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SC2 may break my heart and respect for Blizzard
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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
August 25 2009 16:42 GMT
#69
I'm a fan of the game already.

Concerns: Not entirely sure about the Zerg right now, and the inane macro-hacks have got to go (if you're not clear, this means obelisks and mules and w/e the Zerg have or might have). IMO the thing that made SC what it is is the relative simplicity of the mechanics involved. (Also my micro isn't good enough to be constantly fiddling with some stupid extra mining ability, so I'm biased, though I suppose the reasonable answer is for me to get better - but this is supposed to be a popular-level game, right?)

Real problems: Implementation, also known as being able to play the game. No LAN? Stupid. I understand the whole "no piracy" thing being a problem, but how is this supposed to stop it again? Blizzard becoming EA? Disappointing.
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GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
August 25 2009 20:06 GMT
#70
I am still sooo pissed off about the lack of LAN support. I can understand Blizzard ignoring us about everything else... but not that. If even the minority of fans say that you should put something like LAN in, then do it. They hide behind their "oh, everybody isn't using the internet?" excuse. But that really isn't the issue here. Their is no way you can replicate the lag-free environment LAN gives us, no way. I don't care if Bnet 2 is the best multiplayer server ever in the history of gaming. It just will never replace LAN.
TheTeamLiquidTiger
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
August 26 2009 00:33 GMT
#71
i'm surprised that Blizzard removed LAN,
but that said Starcraft 2 is so visually appealing and has plenty of new units
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retguy64
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1 Post
August 26 2009 04:39 GMT
#72
I very excited about many of new game mechanics, but I got the feeling that Protoss was quite overpowered with its warp gate abilities combined with the obelisk. I was always able to set up a proxy pylons near my opponents base and overwhelm him with a constant stream of forces.
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
August 26 2009 05:07 GMT
#73
i have a tingly feeling something big is gonna happen with this game... (big in a good way)
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Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-26 10:56:57
August 26 2009 10:56 GMT
#74
My major gameplay concerns (macro, impossible to overview fights with all those fancy explosions) are still there. Even though, it was a lot more fun to play than I initially thought.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 26 2009 14:48 GMT
#75
On August 23 2009 10:35 Blyf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2009 10:03 prOxi.Beater wrote:
I'm convinced I can do better and they all sucked. In short, I'm already hooked! :D


What the hell. You went all the way from Denmark to blizzcon?

I'm so jealous

In the woods, there lurks..
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
August 26 2009 17:26 GMT
#76
I voted "I love dustin browder" cause hes so awesome. But other then that im having suicidal thoughts cause i just can't wait for SC2, im so fucking excited
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
rAize
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany135 Posts
August 26 2009 21:01 GMT
#77
People that whine about the map payments should remember that DOTA wouldnt even be a premium map and I guess there will be LOADS of UMS maps out there for you to never get bored. Those few Premium maps that might be totally new mods since thats now possible deserve to get some money. Also keep in mind that really I doubt any 1v1 map will EVER go premium. Therefore no one should be worried much.
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Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
August 27 2009 04:05 GMT
#78
Have no clue, one week it looks like it's going to suck, next they pull something nice out and I get excited, then they do something that makes me think it will suck again, so for now I'll just be excited for d3 and if during sc2 beta it turns out that it rocks then I'll get back on board.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-27 10:06:33
August 27 2009 09:53 GMT
#79
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=100475&currentpage=7

I posted this in the latest archerofauir macro thread (above) but I think it's gone mostly unnoticed. Anyways here is a small (long) recap of a few games I played and some highlights:


My highlighted experiences of SC2:

Reapers, these fuckers are amazing. They scout and move fast like pros. They sneak around anywhere. they can stim. they can throw bombs. they rape small units.
The only downside is the slow tech.
More than a few games I opened with the standard marine marauder wall in, but secretly I got a merc compound and upped stim and d8 chargers and made 4-8 reapers. While moving out with my decent sized Marine maurader and expanding (pushing the enemy back to their base(s) I secretly moved my unknown reaper force into their mineral line (took 4 reapers to take down a probe and they were very good at move and shoot). But before I attack the workers I throw down some D charges behind the probes (where they would run) and on the probes. Needless to say lots of them go boom as well as the defense units coming to save the day. But the stimmed reapers are too crazy for melee and just run away from most ranged units.

Baneling drops, I tried to do this in almost every game I played with zerg (which was like 5-6 games) but only managed to do it in 1. they take quite a bit of tech and macro to get a sizeable force of them. And then you still need to upg drop and speed on ur lords. But once I finally did I fucking moving dropped them in the guy's SCV line and it was Amazing. they don't do a huge amount of damage like a scarab but 6 of them still managed to get a grief stricken face of my opponent across me who was going 1 base BC.

Overseer Changelings, these are so fun to use and very very good recon. Enemy units don't automatically shoot at them and if dropped near enemy base they create a teir 1 unit? of the appropriate race (marine in my case). I loved running these around in the guy's base and I swear I saw the guy trying to micro the straying marine a few times before he realized it wasn't his and sniped it with his ghost lol.

This part is long
Teamplay/Winning 3v1, during the last few hours of blizzcon I sat down after literally an hour long line this time and played some guy who wasn't fairly decent but not really that good. He was defeated 2-0 and then I stayed sitting there calling out for an opponent like I had just sat down. It actually took like 10 minutes for some reason (buncha idiots wanting to play Dota and shit). wtf, seriously, who comes to blizzcon to play dota? Anyways so a girl and 2 guys showed up and the coordinator told us we'd be doing a 2v2. I said cool, this would be my first 2v2 iirc. One guy's name was Tree, girl's name was Cady, and the other guy I forget. So I made my name House as to go with Tree. They assumed I was referencing the TV show and told me to go back to the hospital etc.

So the first game was underway and I had proxy 2 gated at my nat and rushed a zerg and with macroing reinforcement zeals eventually took out all the buildings (the mantalings from buildings are quite annoying >.< ) but she managed to escape her drones and rebuilt somewhere. My ally was slowy teching to DTs, and I was making an expansion going heavy stalker/zeal. I rekilled the zerg and smashed into the walled in terran and then just let my allies DT finish him off so he could get some playtime lol. They were all pretty noob but that's understandable. After some minor banter about me being a beast they decided to put the girl on my team this time.

Turns out the girl was actually a bit better because she was a great teammate and actually asked me what to build and for tips unlike my previous partner. I told her to just make sure to spawn larvas with her queen and pump lots of drones, and FE. And then mass hydras. So this game I had done esentially the same strat of zealot rushing and did quite a bit of damage to one terran but as I was raping him I typed in LIFT and a few seconds later he did. And began rebuilding on an island.
Then I noticed Cady was doing awesome and had a sizeable force of hydras. Along with my stalker/zeal and 1 collosus army I said lets go break the other guy's wall. He had just gotten a few tanks up behind his wall and bunker so I took heavy losses on busting open the door. But Cady had lost nearly nothing and could have probably finished him off had she followed my "target the tank" instruction, but I guess she was too busy. She did manage to take out the bunker and my zeal got 1 last hit to finish off the tank but overall it was a loss. I told her to switch to muta because the island guy and she did.
While she was amassing muta I had sent a few warprays and phoenix over to harass the terran luckily before he had turrets and much AA up but close to teir 2.5/3 tech. Her mutas came in and cleaned up. Meanwhile I had created a few more bases and a lot of ground forces zeals and immortals with 2 collossus, and a small strike force of blink stalkers. As I moved into the walled terran again I used a Col to see up the hill on the side and sneak in some stalkers to drill his min line. This caused him to unseige and move all his force to defend which enabled me to just walk in and rape with the rest of my ground. Her mutas were redundant but it was GG again.

So upon joining the next game and reading that I was a beast and more house references I jokingly suggested a 3v1 which they agreed to. I didn't expect to win this at all, especially since they actually chose the WORST map for terran which was this weird 2v2 map where 2 bases are connected and share 1 really wide ass ramp. Furthermore I didn't even realize that this was the map (had only played it once) and had begun SSBSSBing the wall in lol. after a few minutes I noticed an assimilator warping in near me and went to scout and noticed a whole base lol. So I made a bunker and started leapfrogging into the protoss. The funny part was when the probes tried to escape and I had a wall up but I accidentally sunk a depot and let them all out anyways.
So they got to escape and rebuild in some obscure part of the map (yellow mins).
One terran wised up and tried to save the protoss with his M/M but couldn't match my uphill M/M walled at this point and gave up after a few skirmishes.
But It gave me another base with my wallin and I just teched to Seige tanks and reapers as I expanded 3 times in base. I found the protoss base and reapered it up until canons came online. Then I finished it off with a small M/M force. She retreated to the safety of the other 2's main and rebuilt on one of their inner nats.

By this time I was rolling in the money and began pumping Vikings and putting up lots of turrets and sensor towers. A few minutes after I noticed a bleep on the map and saw a red "!" moving around to my backside. I wrote a little "I see you" and it slowed to a stop. Then 30 seconds later it came in and dropped a cloaked ghost in futility which I took out with my massive 12 viking force of macroed off 4 and now 5 starports.

Right after this I decided it's time to go harass with them since there was a zerg opponent anyways. I move across the map and got a few lords. Then I flew around to the back of their base and reverted to ground mode and raped a ton of SCV, lifted back off when muta arrived and began to hit and run the muta. The muta proved to be too strong and fast in an nearly equal numbered fight and I lost my force. But I was persistent and had remade another 12 or so vikings along with my tons of M/M Tank. This time I decided it's time to move out on them and push into their wallin using seiged tanks and viking sight.
So I opened up shop and began to pot shot units and buildings. My vikings began to harrass the protoss and and they managed to defend quite well taking out half of my vikings again. But I had been busy making turrets and sensor towers across the map as well as BCs with yamoto upgrade. They tried in vain to nuke my vikings as I swung them back and forth against their air units. Eventually they wisened up and aimed a nuke right at my tank m/m force and I quickly moved away. At this very moment the mutas began to chase my vikings as I retreated and the nuke blasted every single one which gained simultaneous LOLs from 3 players including me.

I reseiged the partial wall in and brought the vikings back into the main and took free reign on the lords and eventually the drones. The terran managed to clean them up, but by this time I had BC rallying to my tanks and Yamoto'd a few tanks and waltzed in. They didn't leave right away trying to nuke me some more but I dodged them all and bulldozed down their bases. After some questioning they decided that I was too good and GG'd a final time. It was so fun. BETA SOON PLZ

PS- For like 2 days after blizzcon I was getting withdrawls from not playing SC2, I totally felt like I didn't get to do anything in all the time that I played there (which was pretty much nonstop except for the BW pro games). I can't vote BEST GAME EVER, because frankly I haven't played enough and even if I did it's way too early to tell, but I am excited as hell for this game. And even if the game fails, I understand how powerful the editor is so we can just remake BW on 3d engine and win either way. Fuck yea!
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
August 28 2009 02:35 GMT
#80
paying for map packs, hideous player colors (can you be any more confusing???), ridiculous one bnet id per cd key, idiotic no chat channel, the utter stupidity of no online replays, MBS, Multicommand, hideous BNET UI (worst part of WC3 Bnet was the chain interface that artificially added 2-3 seconds to each room join attempt)...


Need I say more?
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 28 2009 11:52 GMT
#81
On August 23 2009 09:52 RaGe wrote:
Personally, the gameplay panel and the exhibition matches convinced me that SC2 is in good hands.

It might take a few months after release to get the game perfect, but it's gonna be worth it.

While I'm bouncing off the walls excited for this game, I think the replay-dodge during the gameplay panel pissed me off more than anything -_-

Q: "What about online replays?"

A: "ESPORTS ESPORTS ESPORTS WE LOVE ESPORTS... does that answer your question? No? Ok good."
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
xdeviance
Profile Joined July 2009
United States38 Posts
August 29 2009 19:45 GMT
#82
I don't like it, but that's just me.
EffOrt.!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 30 2009 12:37 GMT
#83
On August 23 2009 16:00 Failsafe wrote:
not well informed but from what little i know i see no reason to feel anything other than contempt for dustin browder

You are right.

You really are not well informed.

I can't really see any reason to hate on Dustin Browder, he's been good for the game as far as I can tell.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 30 2009 16:52 GMT
#84
On August 30 2009 04:45 xdeviance wrote:
I don't like it, but that's just me.

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BlackSphinx
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada317 Posts
August 31 2009 03:45 GMT
#85
That game is going to be a sport.

There is no question that the people working on the game itself are he most dedicated individuals at producing the best damn shit to ever grace a PC.

There is questioning towards Activision/Blizzard exec with the cash, but if the game is as masterful as it's shaping up to be, it'll be a very minor annoyance.
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