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Shinhan Proleague 2008/2009 Grand Finals Coverage by Riptide and Heyoka

Alea iacta est or The die is cast - these famous words were uttered on January 10th, 49BC by a Roman Pronconsul who with only one legion at his command crossed the Rubicon river and challenged the entire Roman Senate led by Pompey. These words, which are attributed to the Athenian playwright Menander, go down in history because of this man, a man who dared to take on the might of a republic, and as history now tells us, conquer it, and become its most famous leader.

Gaius Julius Caesar is said to have quoted Menander after crossing the Rubicon river with his army, and thereby breaking Roman law, which stipulated that Proconsuls or governors, as we know them now, could not bring their armies into Rome. By crossing the river, he defied the republic and began a long civil war from which he eventually emerged victorious.

This weekend, thousands of years after Caesar crossed the river, another man leads a legion against the might of an empire. Last weekend, as the curtains fell on the Proleague Semi Finals, Lee Jaedong sat in the back of the Hwaseung OZ team van, and uttered these words quietly to himself.

Alea iacta est.

On Friday, less than a week after almost single handedly conquering a mighty CJ Entus, Lee Jaedong will lead his men across the Nakdong River and walk into a stadium to face not a team, but a dynasty. Although Lim Yo Hwan and Choi Yun Sung are no longer the frontmen of this outfit, their shoes have been filled by the likes of Kim Taek Yong and Jung Myung Hoon, players who are at the very peak of their game. Times have changed, names have changed, but SK Telecom T1 is once again the powerhouse it once was, and in leading his sparse battalion against these giants Lee Jaedong is doing what others can only dream of - challenging history itself.

While OZ have won a Proleague Grand Finals more recently than SKT T1, they have nowhere near the amount of overall appearances as SKT. In fact SKT won the first ever Grand Finals over Hanbit Stars in the 2003 KTF EVERCup ProLeague, and thereafter went to win three more PL rounds and two more Grand Finals topped off by two MBC Team League titles. Place that record against Hwaseung's one Proleague Round 2 title and one Grand Finals title and you get an idea of the disparity here.

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SKT T1 - not a team, but an empire.

In fact, we think it'd be good to stop for a second and take a time machine back to when SKT won their last Proleague title. The year was 2006, and the SKY 2005 finals were on between SKT and KTF, putting greats like Boxer and Iloveoov versus the likes of Yellow and Reach. Ghostclaw reports.

Reign of Fire


By Ghostclaw

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To look back at the last time that SKT T1 won a final, we need to go back to February, 2006, when proleagues had a Round 1 and a Round 2, when H.O.T. Forever had just announced his retirement, and when people first started posting things in the liquibet comments like:

On February 20 2006 11:46 FireBlast! wrote:
Can we please please have a Boxer - Yellow 7th game decider?

The format back for the 2005 Proleague Finals was a best of seven, with 4 different 1v1's and 3 different 2v2's. Not only did it include 2v2, but you also were able to announce players to go up right before they needed to play – none of this announcing the lineups to prepare for a matchup, you just stood up to play when your coach or captain told you to go (check, I can't find a lineup anywhere)

Some of the notable players from this time from KTF included Sync, Nal_ra, Goodfriend, reach, Chojja, and Yellow. SK's roster was a veritable hall of fame, with Iloveoov, Midas, Kingdom, IntotheRainbow, Gorush, Canata, and, of course, Boxer.

Game 1: Goodfriend (KTF) vs. Boxer (SKT T1) on R-Point
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At this point, Boxer was 14-2 in televisied games on R-point (6-0 in proleague), and Goodfriend was 3-4 on R-point (No games played in proleague). Suffice to say, Boxer was the heavy favorite going into this match. However, Goodfriend at 5 goes 2 fact vult into a contain against boxer's (at 7) 1 fact → cc, and rides his unit advantage into a surprise win, holding his contain throughout the game.
KTF 1- 0 SKT

Game 2: Yellow & Nal_rA (KTF) vs. Canata & Rumble (SKT T1) on Usan Nation
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Previously, Nal_ra & Yellow were 2-0 in proleague, while Canata & Rumble were 7-2 in proleague. 2V2 is a very very complex matchup, and in the currently proleague format is starting to become a lost art.

Yellow started at 8, Nal_ra at 10, Canata at 5, and Rumble at 1. All of the players start off with a fairly low econ game – 9 pools for both of the zerg players, 2 gate goon for Nal_ra, and 10/12 rax for canata. The game was basically decided the first time the players combined armies met – Nal_ra's Dragoons were out of position, and zerglings with mnm killed off most of them
KTF 1- 1 SKT

Game 3: Chojja (KTF) vs. iloveoov (SKT T1) on Rush Hour II
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In proleague, Iloveoov was 6-0 on this map, and on rush hour 2 he was 10-3 previous to this game. Chojja was 8-1 however, and no slouch at all. However...Iloveoov was dominating professional Starcraft at this point. He had just qualified over Casy for the OSL finals the night before, and feared no zerg on the planet.

Oov(at 7) opened with a Bunker rush, which Chojja(at 7) fends off nicely with drones. Chojja ends up going mutalisk harass → lurkers + hive into expansion off of only 2 bases, and uses an ensnare+lurker to save one of his expansions (very cool). However, after some time, oov gets a large enough 2-2 upgraded mnm/tank force to run over chojja.

KTF 1-2 SKT T1
Game 4: Chojja & Goodfriend (KTF) vs. IntoTheRainbow & Rumble (SKT T1) On Luna
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Fresh off of his last game, Chojja got called up to play again on Luna. This was a bit of a surprise, as many thought that reach would be at least one of the players who would be called up to play. Neither of these pairs had played together previously either, which means that no one had any idea of what to expect.

With Rainbow at 7, Rumble at 1, Goodfriend at 11, and Chojja at 4, Rainbow chooses to open with a gate + forge into a cannon containment on Goodfriend. With both zerg players attempting to do damage to each other, Goodfriend breaks out with his first sieged tank as Rainbow techs to reavers. However, Goodfriend anticipated Rainbow's reavers, and already has a wraith out before Rainbow's reaver can do anything. With Goodfriend showing a large mnm army, and no more cannon containment, the combined KTF forces roll over SKT T1's team.

KTF 2 – 2 SKT T1

Game 5: Sync (KTF) Vs. Kingdom (SKT) on Neo Requiem
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Sync was a surprise choice for KTF, as it seemed odd that Reach was still sitting on the bench for KTF. Kingdom was 7-1on Neo Requiem in proleague, 9-5 overall, whereas sync was 3-8 on Neo Requiem. Very odd choice for the KTF coach to be sure.

Kingdom spawned at 9, whereas Sync spawned at 12. Kingdom showed why he was 7-1 on the map previously, as he used his dragoons to harass the scv's and wall that sync had built, and basically never let Sync out of his base. Kingdom made it look easy, as he teched to reaver (17 kills), and essentially made it look as if sync was some sort of D level player.

KTF 2-3 SKT T1

Game 6: Yellow & Reach (KTF) Vs. Midas & MuMyung on Iron Curtain
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With their backs against the wall, KTF sends out their veteran team of Yellow and Reach to try to get a win. At this point, they're 7-2 for the season. SKT T1 sent out Midas & MuMyung, who had never played together on TV up until this point.

SKT opens with both players on the left, and KTF opens with both players on the right. This allows both teams to tech up, and allows them to have less defenses than normal. This map almost requires a strong air force, as the mineral blocks in the center of the map make it very difficult for units to make a ground pus across the map. Reach techs to hidden DT, both zerg players get mutalisks, and Midas builds wraiths. However, the DT don't do any damage, as both SKT players have plenty of detection. SKT took control of the air fleet, and the KTF team had trouble getting across the middle of the map. As SKT launches the final drop (~40 hydras from MuMyung), KTF was forced to gg, and SKT T1 was crowned the Proleague Champions.

KTF 2 – SKT T1 4

For more information, check out the original coverage thread by Mani.

Critics will be quick to point out that the SKT wins cant be counted here because none of those players play anymore yardiyar. Save it. Eras have changed, and this we do not deny. To say SKT is anything but an empire, however, is foolhardy at best. Although Boxer and oov are certainly not leading the team in terms of actual wins, they are certainly the driving force behind the team. In fact, we'd like to posit that SKT's rapid rise to the top in PL R5 may have something to do with Boxer's return to the team house in December last year. In fact, perhaps this is a good time to look at something that was penned on the verge of Boxer leaving the air force.

Indeed, Lim Yo Hwan comes back to a SKT T1 that is a shadow of what it once was. With Oov retiring, to come back as playing coach, and Midas and GoRush nowhere near their original form, Boxer has some hard months ahead of him. Despite having the Bisu/Best twin powerhouses to work with, The Emperor's leadership skills will be tested as never before. His experience with ACE will be helpful, but his task at SKT T1 is far more daunting. He will have to, within the next few months, show that he is capable of bringing SK Telecom T1 back to, or in the very least close to where it once was.
       -Return of the King, TLFE.

Although it's impossible to isolate the exact reasons for SKT T1's drastic improvement in Proleague R5, the difference is too much and too soon to be put down to mere coincidence. Playing only a few televised games since his release from the air force, and admittedly doing badly in them, Lim Yo Hwan has been at work at SKT, and it shows. When OZ meets them this Friday they will be meeting a team that has the benefit of working with the experience of over a decade, and to call that anything but an empire of Broodwar is short sighted.

Hwaseung are the underdogs. Let's not argue about that. However, this doesn't mean that they're going to take anything lying down. Lee Jaedong even on a bad day is still as lethal as they get and Coach Cho, his partner in crime, has pulled off a Grand Finals victory before, and over an impressive at that. In 2007, when Jaedong went out and was sniped by Frozean, many of us thought it was over. Yet, Cho showed that OZ was more than Lee Jaedong, and ForGG, Lomo, Shinhwa Anytime and Hiya pulled through to crush January's team. In fact, let's pause for a moment to take a closer look at those finals.

Rags to Riches


By Ghostclaw

The last time Lecaf OZ won was much more recent. Coach January had gotten her boys all the way out to the finals yet again, and Lecaf OZ was able to get all the way to the finals on the backs of Jaedong, anytime, and Hiya.

Before the matchup started, everyone knew that the keys were going to be players other than Jaedong.

On February 12 2008 14:19 Live2Win wrote:
Frozean will get his arsed wooped.

The key games are Set 4 Katrina and 6 CoF. TT/sigamari team hasn't been doing well so this is Lecaf's chance to win it. If they win 6th set they will most likely win the ace match, and win the whole thing.

AnyTime vs Stork is tough, but Stork has been historically the more consistant player other than PvP.


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Set 1: (T)FrOzean < Un'Goro Crater > (Z)Jaedong

As Live2Win stated in his liquibet comment, everyone thought that Frozean was going to get worked. Jeadong had been dominating over the previous moths, and Frozean's TvZ was not consistent at all (and, in fact, is still not consistent under the name of “cuteangel”).

Jaedong at 9 goes 12 hatchery into spire, evolution chamber, into lurkers. Frozean at 12 goes 1 rax expand into 4 rax. Jaedong defends his main with 1 sunken, and 2 creep colonies ready to morph as soon as frozean shows a sign of making a push. When frozean scouts Jaedong's fast lurker build, he pushes up jaedongs ramp against 3 sunkens and a fourth morphing. As jaedong loses his sunkens, and then his natural hatchery, he is forced to type out, and leaves the crowd wondering what had just happened.

Khan 1- 0 Lecaf

Set 2: (P)JangBi < Nemesis > (T)fOrGG
This map was one of the oldest maps in the set, and was known for turtling. There is only one expansion, and only one choke into your base. Everyone expected jangbi to be able to get a win of of forgg, as jangbi had been playing well, and forgg wasn't playing as well as jangbi.

Forgg starts at 1, and opens with a fast barracks, and then expanded after walling off his natural. Jangbi at 7 opened up as safe as possible, and when he realizes he's behind, takes his own natural, attacks Forgg and breaks the wall, along with some great reaver micro. Jangbi expands again, and continues to harass with his reaver. Forgg is all but dead, as he is behind in base count and scv count. Forgg senses that this is the only time he's going to be able to have any advantage, and moves out to attack jangbi before jangbi's third base can kick in. Jangbi decides to defend at the choke, but watches in horror as all of his units melt to siege tanks and vultures. Forgg doesn't have any reinforcements, but Jangbi has no units, and is forced to leave the game with a much greater economy, but no way to get out of his base.
Khan 1-1 Lecaf


Set 3: (Z)JiHyun/(T)CuteBOy < Hwangsanbul > (T)Lomo/(Z)ShinHwA
Ahh 2v2. Everyone going into this game expects JiHyun and Cuteboy to dominate Lomo and ShinHwa. JiHyun and Cuteboy are 9-2 in proleague, while Lomo and Shinhwa are 5-3 in proleague.

Lomo is at 1 and shinhwa is at 7 for Lecaf, and JiHyun is at 10 while cuteboy is at 5 for Khan. Cuteboy goes for a 2 rax marine rush, and jihyun goes 2 hatchery speedlings into lair. As it looks like the Khan team is heading towards Shinhwa, Lomo moves out of his base. As soon as lomo moves out, the Khan team changes targets from Shinhwa to Lomo, and Lomo is overrun as his vultures pop out. As lomo is overrun, Shinhwa moves towards JiHyun with 5 mutalisks. JiHyun has no defenses, and gets overrun. This leaves ShinHwa and Cuteboy still in the game. However, Shinhwa was able to continue to build enough mutalisks to run over Cuteboy off of both of the gases in his main.

Khan 1 - 2 Lecaf

Set 4: (P)Stork < Katrina > (P)Anytime
In one of the best, most anticipated games of the night, we have Anytime vs Stork. Both players have a long history of playing, and they were facing off on a protoss map in proleague. What could be better?

Both Stork at 9 and anytime at 12 go 2 gate zealot into fast expansion. However, Stork chooses to go very heavy zealot, with zealot legs before dragoon range. Anytime goes reaver/shuttle/dragoon, as is standard, and stork has a large number of zealots, with very few dragoons, and a reaver and a shuttle. Predictably, 3 or 4 scarabs, and superior shuttle micro from anytime destroy stork's zealot heavy army, and stork is forced to attempt to defend with essentially pure zealots. However, Anytime's reaver micro is very good, and Stork was forced to give in shortly.

Khan 1-3 Lecaf

Set 5: (T)firebathero < Python > (T)HiyA

With Khan facing elimination, they needed to pull out a win from firebathero. With the grand final championship on the line, Firebathero spawns at 6, and Hiya spawns at 8. Firebathero decided that the island expansion at the bottom left is more important, and that defending his natural should be fairly easy, and therefore gets more dropships to attempt to expand to the bottom left, and push hiya at the same time. However, with less dropships and more units, hiya decides to push into Firebathero's natural, and use his dropships to land tanks at the high ground at the same time. This forces Firebathero to move all of his units to defend, and pull off scv's. However, as soon as he fends off the first attack, 3 more of Hiya's dropships land with reinforcements, and Firebathero is forced to concede (FBH choking, does that sound familiar?).

If you're interested in reading more on these finals Daigomi's news post has some excellent coverage.

While we cannot ignore that Jaedong plays a far more central role in OZ now than he did back then, we must not forget that Cho is capable of pulling off a win when needed. With that said, let's have a look at what he's facing this time.

SK Telecom T1 vs Hwaseung OZ

Day 1
(T)fantasy < Outsider > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Canata < Shades of Twilight > (T)Lomo
(Z)Hyuk < Neo Medusa > (Z)ggaemo
(P)BeSt < Colosseum II > (P)BackHo
(Z)Thezerg < God's Garden > (Z)Killer
(P)Bisu < Heartbreak Ridge > (T)HiyA
< Neo Harmony >

Day 2
(P)Bisu < Heartbreak Ridge > (P)PerfectMan
(Z)Hyuk < Outsider > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Canata < Destination > (P)BackHo
(Z)Thezerg < God's Garden > (Z)Killer
(T)fantasy < Neo Harmony > (T)HiyA
(P)BeSt < Shades of Twilight > (T)Lomo
< Neo Medusa >

Ace
SK Telecom T1 < Destination > Hwaseung OZ

Indeed, the opening set is practically made for OZ, and indeed for us as fans of Broodwar. Did any of you ask KESPA for a rematch of the last OSL finals? I guess someone did, because that's exactly what they've given us. Jaedong vs Fantasy on Outsider, a map that is 26-33 TvZ. Not to write Fantasy off, but OZ cant help but feel confident here. Cho needs this win, and he couldn't have sent out a better player to get it for him.

Canata vs Lomo is going to be one sided. OZ fans are gonna like to think that their Terran has a chance, but sorry Canata is Canata and Lomo is Lomo. If you watched him last week vs Iris it isn't even necessary to consider this. Failing cheese or divine intervention, Canata is walking away with this one. A loss by Lomo will of course put the pressure on the OZ Zerg players who have to scrape together two wins to put their team in contention of an ace match. While ggaemo and Killer are certainly not the brightest bulbs around, they have the benefit of training with the best ZvZer of all time, and may just be able to pull it off.

If one of them fails though, it's gonna come down to Backho who unfortunately has to face Best. Now, Best is clearly not at his best this season, but even an ailing best is a force to contend with for the likes of Backho. Apart from the fact that Best is more experienced, he also has the advantage of PvPing with Bisu. Enough said. Best is not at his best, but his best is still a good deal above Backho's best. The OZ Protoss just might take this, but it's not going to be easy.

All in all, day one comes to Jaedong and two others winning. Canata and Bisu are all but assured their victories. Sorry Hiya fans, but no dice. Although Heartbreak Ridge is well balanced at 14-15 PvT, the Terran did lose to Bisu the last time they met, and with Bisu's experience and the time he has to prepare for this game, it's almost impossible to think that he will drop the game. Crazier things have happened in these playoffs though, so we're not ruling it out, just saying it's very unlikely.

Moving on, Day 2 doesn't start off that well for OZ, with Perfectman going up against none other than Bisu. Yes, we saw his reaver play against Iris, and yes, we did think it was pretty sick, but there's no way we're giving him an edge on Bisu. At 67.02%, PvP is Bisu's best matchup, and we're predicting a win here, thereby completing a weird PL-MSL win circle of sorts - Bisu > Perfectman > Iris > Bisu.

With SKT up on day two, Jaedong is gonna take Hyuk ezpz and then it's gonna come down to Backho and Killer/Hiya/Lomo to seal the deal and take it to ace. Killer has the easier job on his hands though, for despite being a relative newbie, he's not facing Canata/Fantasy/Best. Out of the three OZ players left, we'd say Backho has the best chance here, though beating Canata is not gonna be easy. It's his best matchup, sure, but Canata has been on a roll lately and will no doubt be preparing heavily for this game.

Sorry Lomo, but Best is gonna steam roll you tank on galaxy style. It's not that we don't like you - we're just realists, you see. Again, best is not at his Best, but he seriously doesn't need his best to outdo the OZ Terran's best. Fantasy and Hiya? As of now, Fantasy has a TvT of 60.00%, and Hiya has a TvT of 40.00%. That's about right, we think. If Hyuk and Backho can manage wins on Day 2 to support Jaedong, OZ could take it ace. Apart from that, their chances are pretty slim.

If you haven't figured it out already, the Terrans of each team are set to play a major part in deciding this series. Pholon's here now to discuss the T factor in greater detail.

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On towards victory we march,
the guiding star leads us to the battlefield


Let’s be honest. (P)Kim Taek Young and (Z)Lee Jae Dong should win their respective games, and sure, (P)BeSt and (P)BackHo might pull off some 2 base Arb or Proxy Gate shenanigans, but the people it’s going to come down to to bring in those extra points needed for a team victory are the Terrans. Indeed, they may not be the #1 players on their team, but their rôle will be no less than pivotal to the outcome of this Grand Final. Steel meets Steel - this is the weekend of the Terran.


After his advancing in the OSL, by.fantasy declared he wanted people to know the might of SKT T1 Terrans. And yes, SKT T1 is well-endowed.

- (T)by.fantasy
“Jaedong is better, but Fantasy is smarter”, and FakeSteve is right. Fantasy is an incredibly intelligent player. Who can forget how, for example, his builds completely dismantled (Z)Luxury in last OSL. His gameplans are clever and meticulous, he’s currently sporting a 60% winrate versus Terran and a nearly as good overall winrate. Having two silvers under his belt, this guy will be anxious to win the gold.

      Fantasy will be facing (Z)Jaedong and (T)HiyA
      Vs Jaedong: 3-4 / Vs Zerg: 21-19 (52.5%)
      Vs Hiya: 0-1 / Vs Terran: 24-16 (60%)



- (T)Canata
Canata used to be famed as the TvT specialist. Many of the SKT T1 Terran qualities can be ascribed to this player: he is nifty, precise and in good shape. He’s made the final 8 of both the MSL and OSL (only to be eliminated by Jaedong and Fantasy) and let’s not forget his secret weapon, which, according to NeverGG, will out-sexy OZ: his infamous bowlcut.

       Canata will be facing (T)Lomo and (P)BackHo
      Vs Lomo: 1-1 / Vs Terran: 36-30 (54.55%)
      Vs BackHo: 1-0 / Vs Protoss: 19-17 (52.73%)



On top of this, Fantasy and Canata are the prodigies of the SKT T1 Terran lineage that is (T)BoxeR, (T)Oov and (T)Midas. With 3 times 10 years of Starcraft experience at their back, these players have enough of a foundation to build upon.


With (T)fOrGG leaving the house not too long ago, Oz’s Terran hope rests with (T)HiyA and (T)Lomo. They did bring in points for Oz throughout the season, but can they face up to their SKT T1 colleagues?

- (T)HiyA
Hiya is your typical A-class gamer. He’s definitely good, but that’s all he has going for him. He’s facing powerhouse (P)Bisu – the only dragon still in a StarLeague - and (T)by.fantasy against whom a 40% vT record just isn’t gonna cut it. In the Semis he played really well versus (P)Movie, but his play against (T)sKyHigh is hardly enough to take out Fantasy. I forgot what Magikarp evolves into and I doubt I’ll find out this weekend.

       Hiya will be facing (P)Bisu and (T)by.fantasy
      Vs Bisu: 1-2 / Vs Protoss: 26-15 (63.41%)
      Vs Fantasy: 1-0 / VsTerran: 22-33 (40%)



- (T)Lomo
Lomo is Oz’s pick for Shades of Twilight, having played 9 games on it since its introduction (4-5 overall, 3-3 vT, 1-1vP) and playing both of his matches on it vs SKT T1. Sure enough, Lomo will have had plenty of practise on the map, but will it help enough to overcome a below 50% overal record? One thing is for sure: if Oz wins, there will be humping.

      Lomo will be facing (T)Canata and (P)BeSt
      Vs Canata: 1-1 / Vs Terran: 17-24 (41.46%)
      Vs Best: 0-0 / Vs Protoss: 10-12 (45.45%)



Hwaseung Oz’s Terrans are good, well-rounded players. They’re just not great. Both players are fun to watch, have shown some great games in the past, but, overall, aren’t Finals material.


When comparing Fantasy/Canata to Hiya/Lomo the latter just don’t seem to have it in them. They fall behind on all terrains and even Fantasy Proleague Points show an average of 25.5 for Fantasy/Canata, while Hiya/Lomo evens out at 15.5. I hate to be the bringer of bad news, but a lot will hinge on these four players and Oz is going down.

The quest of the war, forever sung
To the sound of steel meets steel

Gah, analysis, analysis. Yeah, we know, enough of that for now. Let's get to some good old fashioned trash talk. Today we have TL's own Fanatacist and Atrioc going head to head in a give no mercy, take no prisoners write off that will in all probability cause your monitors to explode and your bandwidth to saturate due to pure venom. If by the end of this you aren't ready to jump into your respective SKT or OZ fan thread and go nuts, then I'm afraid that you should just give up and go play wow or something. Srsly.

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By Fanatacist

Fire, screams, prisoners pleading for their lives with tears in their eyes, the porridge growing cold on the blood-stained dinner table.

      SKT T1 is back in town, back in Pusan, and these are just the embers in the wake of their scorching victory. With an upset, OZ arrives at Pusan as well, barely squeaking out a win after a humiliating 0-4 defeat on Day 2 under the guidance of their only decent player, Jaedong (who actually lost to a 23% ZvZ Orion). The champions are waiting at the gates, having arrived there weeks earlier, gathering their strength and preparing a lot of funny netizen comments for when they subdue the uprising newcomer like an infant being put into a full-nelson by a coked-up steroid-popping sumo wrestler.

      A Gorilla for a captain, an Emperor in their midst, and a pair of Revolutionists at the helm of the SKT T1 flagship, this Titanic of a team is reinforced at the hull with the solid mechanics of the Galaxy Crusher, decimating the would-be iceberg/obstacle Hwaseung OZ. Jaedong’s sweat and tears over the ineptitude of his team are the sea in which this ship sails and thrives; Bisu and Fantasy are hungry for his head, should the impossible happen and one of the sets comes down to an ace match.

      What’s more is that OZ has no history, no mystique, no legacy – SKT T1 has it in full flair. If the dynasty is not enough to impress you, look back through the links I’ve provided you and ask yourselves, my blind non-believers, how many of these articles are Final Edits? How much royalty is there to carrying the same stripes and colors as the legends I’ve mentioned? Take a moment to read those articles and process the fact that all of these players are on the same team. Now realize that this is the team OZ is going up against in the finals. I would end my “argument” here, but that’d be letting ye unfaithful off easy. I, like my team, don’t stop until full penetration.

      As you can see, this is not a “debate,” but more of an assertion of facts. Is there anyone out there who really sees OZ as the favorite to win this match? I’ll take the Super Ace victory over Effort as a no. Going 5-4 against CJ in the team matches doesn’t look good when you are looking up at SKT T1 sitting comfortably at #1. I mean, as if their stellar lineup wasn't enough, it's like Kespa gave them a Grand Finals seed so they could spend an extra month preparing to pound anyone who dared come their way.

OZ is a tired, ragged and filthy flock of marauding Gauls, at the gates of Rome – SKT T1 is Rome, the fortified stronghold of Western civilization and most powerful city in the world. It’s not going to be pretty. It’s not going to be tears of joy streaming down Jaedong’s face. It’s going to be the intensely flickering light in Jaedong’s eyes being put out and smoldered by the tears of defeat. It’s going to be SKT T1, Counting bodies like sheep, to the rhythm of the war drum.
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By Atrioc

This has not been a good time of year to be an SKT T1 fan. Bisu dropping out of the MSL in an action packed Bo5 to Iris is just the latest in a string of disappointments and team kills that have haunted the house that Boxer built (and its fans) this individual league season. That is why it is with a heavy heart that I must inform any of you who carry that cumbersome T1 icon in your signature that the worst is, unfortunately, yet to come. I don't want to drag this out, so I'll just say it:

Hwaseung Oz is going to win the proleague finals.

A few giggles from the audience? A few looks of shock? Your disbelief is understandable – this is not an easy thing to accept. Never before has a team become so underestimated due to one of its player’s strength than Hwaseung Oz with Jaedong. His unmatched ability has overshadowed his perfectly strong teammates to such a point where they are treated not as solid Proleague aces who have racked up numerous wins and helped Oz maintain a dominant position throughout 5 rounds, but rather as second-class citizens who apparently have never won a game in their lives (basically like an SKT T1 Zerg).

As I read over the lineups though, a grin slowly began to creep over my face. The matchups could not have gone better for Hwaseung even if Oov had revealed his picks early for a tasty banana. Coach Cho’s strategy of carefully planned snipes using an extremely fierce practice schedule is out in full force. No Oz player other than Jaedong is a direct favorite – but they have been matched so perfectly with SKT T1 that none of them can be counted out. Had there been a mishap like ggaemo vs. Bisu or BackHo vs Fantasy, there would indeed by trouble for Oz, but every single game gives Oz the perfect opportunity to snag another win and show the world that despite less individual league success among their A-team than their rivals, Oz does not fuck around in proleague.

Finally though, I will admit that the boys in red are not favorite on paper (though lets not forget they certainly weren’t against CJ either, and Iris/Effort/Skyhigh/Kwanro is way more fearsome than Bisu/Fantasy/Canata/Best), but take a very close look at Bisu’s eyes in his Game 5 loss to Iris. Watch Canata’s small sigh as he makes the game losing mistake to Jaedong and throws away a good position in their 5th set. Listen to Oov as he arrogantly declares that only a T1 victory would advance e-sports.

Do all these things and start to realize that all the “good” that this team has accumulated on paper has failed to make the transition to the real world. While they fumble, Oz practices. When the team of talk meets the team of results in Pusan on Friday, I pity anyone who expects no upsets.

Its time to pass the crown, SK Telecom. Proleague has some new kings.



Feeling psyched? We certainly are. While many of us will be glue to our screens this Friday and Saturday, some of you lucky folk will be heading down to Pusan to catch these games live. If you've never been to a Proleague finals though, getting there and away can be a daunting task. Have a look at Mani's handy guide below to make sure that you get the most out of your trip.

Live Event Survival
by Manifesto7


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This is not a rock concert.

So you are going to Pusan to watch the finals live? With a little advance planning, this trip could be a rewarding experience. You will need the following:

1. Time

Better wake up early, because you will be competing with hundreds for those precious seats. The last thing you want is to be stuck at the back, staring at a screen that looks like a postage stamp. I recommend camping out the night before on the beaches of Pusan. I also recommend not showering for three days prior, as your stench will throw off the people crowding around to get a spot.

1a. Elbows and sneakers

Time to stake your claim. When the gates open you want to swing one arm left, one arm right, then dash forward as your competitors lay there stunned. DO NOT underestimate the power of a 14 year old Jaedong fan. They will grind you to dust in order to sit one row closer to their idol.

2. Marker and paper

If you have arrived early enough, and you have been merciless in crushing your rivals, you have a decent seat. Now with the four hours you have until game time in which to make some signs and get on TV. The key to getting on TV (besides being white) is to a) draw a sweet picture of a BW unit, b) sketch a caricature of a player or commentator, or c) write in English. A shoutout to TL.net is mandatory, obviously.

3. Lungs

Scream, scream, scream. Give those pipes a workout. Each player has a fan club leader that leads the chant. Learn the pattern, squeeze your eyes shut, and let it rip.

3a. Ear Plugs

Between the girl beside you sobbing into her hands, the boy beside you screaming "Kim Taek Yong" in soprano, and thousands of thundersticks beating the air, your ears will feel like they have been beaten by the KT coaches of old. Take precautions.

4. Sustenance

Soju looks like, and tastes better than, Korean tap water. A water bottle of that as well as some fish flavoured twisty cracker things and you won't care who wins at the end of the day.

5. TL.net

With your phone, you are always connected to TL. You can check the LR thread for when you popped up on screen, use the calender to check upcoming matchups, and impress the girl beside you by knowing the player's Korean names.

Enjoy the show.

According to a recent poll by Team Liquid, 26% of Starcraft fans were looking forward to the Proleague Grand Finals the most, compared to 19% for GOM and 15% for the OSL and MSL finals respectively. This is unusual, since the OSL is often the highlight of the season. So, what could the change be attributed to? We're no social theorists, but we think it may have something to do with the new two days of games and super ace playoff structure. Yes, like it or loathe it, it has definitely produced some crazy games. From EffOrt's veritable all kill of KHAN in the Quarter Finals, to Jaedong's last minute OZ save last week, the super ace had produced games that we will remember for years to come.

As we head into the finals, the super ace factor only increases the pressure on both teams to win 2 - 0 and not have the entire season come down to just one game. When you put it that way it does seem a little unfair - months of playing, tons of games, and everything decided by just one player. That's the way it's gonna be though sports fans, and if this poll is any indication, most of you are going to enjoy it.

The Proleague Grand Finals only roll around once a year. A match of this nature, on the other hand, only occurs once in a lifetime. All in all, let's hope for good games, and great sportsmanship, for as far as Broodwar goes, it just doesn't get any bigger than this. SKT T1 are back, back in the finals of a team league, and they're facing none other than the harbinger of death himself - Lee Jaedong.

This game is not so much about medals and points and prize money as it is about old meets new - one force led by a cocky young general, the other by two veterans who have conquered far bigger opponents. As these giants begin to battle, and metal meets psi, and psi meets swarm, let us not forget that what we're witnessing here is a clash of eras, a feud of ages played out over a windy weekend in Pusan, and that what we're seeing is actually a giant of old and a rising star, meeting on an Eastern beach to the sound of rapid storms and the unceasing flap of mutalisk wings. Let us remember this, and watch with baited breath for the fire of the tank, the roar of the archon, and the sign of swarm, orange against the evening sky. Let us listen, let us watch, and let us remember that we are not just witnessing Broodwar, but history in the making.

+ Show Spoiler [A Personal Note] +

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I've rooted for SKT T1 ever since I got into progaming. Although it was tempting to be an ACE fan as well, I always felt that my loyalty lay with the team that Lim Yo Hwan had created, not the one he was in. When Boxer returned from the air force, like many of you, I was excited. So excited, in fact, that I wrote about it.

The Emperor's critics will argue that he has done very little since his return. I beg to differ. SKT T1 is here in the Grand Finals for the first time in years, and I for one believe that this is in some way related to Boxer being back. To me, this is and always will be Lim Yo Hwan's team. When the new sons of SKT, Bisu, Fantasy and Best take the stage tomorrow, they will only be continuing one of progaming's most long standing traditions, a tradition of excellence that none has matched for as long as Broodwar has been played.

OZ, I'm sorry, but all I can feel for you is pity, for I really do pity the fools who dare come to Pusan to face the very masters of the universe. Maybe on another day, against another team, in another era you'd have had a chance. This weekend though, against these giants at Gwang An Li you will only stand in awe as you witness the beginning of a second reign of fire. Prepare to burn, OZ, prepare to burn.

riptide


Thanks to Atrioc and Fantacist for the wonderful guest columns, ghostclaw for dual pieces, Pholon and Manifesto7 for the informative box stories, Silversky for the awesome header image, alffla for the other graphics, pachi for the PL banner and Fomos for the pics!
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
August 06 2009 04:34 GMT
#2
I am so excited! Games should be exciting, go jaedong
brood war for life, brood war forever
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
August 06 2009 04:35 GMT
#3
WOW that's a long write up. Great... but looonnnnggggggg. Thanks for the effort!
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
August 06 2009 04:36 GMT
#4
Can I just point out two things as well:

1. SKT1 has had WEEKS with Boxer, iloveoov and Fantasy cooking up Terran strategies which they haven't had to show. I'm confident in SKT1's Terrans coming out tops.

2. SKT1 has had WEEKS with Boxer, iloveoov and Fantasy figuring out how to BREAK Terran strategies. I'm confident that anyone from SKT1 playing against an Oz Terran is going to have something very nasty planned.
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 06 2009 04:36 GMT
#5
wow! great write up, no doubt some great games are on the way.
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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
August 06 2009 04:39 GMT
#6
Alea iacta est or The die is cast - these famous words were uttered on January 10th, 49BC by a Roman Pronconsul who with only one legion at his command crossed the Rubicon river and challenged the entire Roman Senate led by Pompey. These words, which are attributed to the Athenian playwright Menander, go down in history because of this man, a man who dared to take on the might of a republic, and as history now tells us, conquer it, and become its most famous leader.


I think I love you for this <3 Roman History! Great write-up!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-06 04:41:18
August 06 2009 04:39 GMT
#7
Go Oz! I know many of these games will be fantastic. Except the TvTs.
Jaedong
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 06 2009 04:40 GMT
#8
HUGE ARTICLE!
Congratulations.

GO SKT!
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Mirklan
Profile Joined April 2009
United States7 Posts
August 06 2009 04:45 GMT
#9
very very nice write up.

Go Oz.
alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
August 06 2009 04:46 GMT
#10
HOLY CRAP nice writeup haha it took me forever to read. but...
GO HWASEUNG AJIFOEJIAF;OJEI AHHHHHHHHHHH JD
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ItsPaul
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia177 Posts
August 06 2009 04:47 GMT
#11
Everything else aside I have to comment on this:

and impress the girl beside you by knowing the player's Korean names.


Boy howdy its about time a dude can impress a chick by knowing about a video game. I can't wait to watch these games, I'm gunna be at work two hours into day two so I'm hoping it goes to the seventh match, but I'll be able to watch all of day one. Go SKT1!!!!
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
August 06 2009 04:49 GMT
#12
EPPIIICCCC!!!!!

I cannot wait!
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13918 Posts
August 06 2009 04:51 GMT
#13
just realized why are they playing at the latter time?

all the other matches have been at an earlier time....
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
iPF[Div]
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain572 Posts
August 06 2009 04:51 GMT
#14
wtf is a rubicon
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gotwater
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States179 Posts
August 06 2009 04:52 GMT
#15
great write up. i am PUMPED for this
Everything counts.
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
August 06 2009 04:53 GMT
#16
Wonderful article. I can't believe I read the whole thing, but I'm more excited for the Proleague Finals than I was for the Super Bowl.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
August 06 2009 04:57 GMT
#17
Riptide you rule!
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nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
August 06 2009 05:01 GMT
#18
Wow, awesome writeup, and I have to say, the writing overall on TL has become so much better, comparing how it is now to the old articles from 2006 it's a totally different beast.

I don't even follow these two teams, and I'm so hype for this grand final.
u gotta sk8
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
August 06 2009 05:04 GMT
#19
The latest news posts have been nothing short of spectacular and this one is no exception. Awesome write up by everyone involved! Can't wait to meet up with some friends to watch the games live tomorrow night.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32271 Posts
August 06 2009 05:04 GMT
#20
nice write up! and loooooooooooooooong
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Elian
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States129 Posts
August 06 2009 05:05 GMT
#21
awesome write up. poetic, almost.
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
August 06 2009 05:06 GMT
#22
This is an excellent writeup leading to the Grand Finals! I cannot wait until the games start!
BackHo failed so badly against Canata last time, I wonder how much he'll choke this time around.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
August 06 2009 05:06 GMT
#23
if anybody's a cocky young general, it's Bisu
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Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
August 06 2009 05:07 GMT
#24
I'm surprised anyone thinks Oz has a chance lol
Day 1 is the more favourable of the two for them, buuuut I wouldn't say it looks good for Oz
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durza
Profile Joined August 2009
United States667 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-06 05:08:22
August 06 2009 05:08 GMT
#25
Brillant write up. Has made me even more pumped for this series. This being the first year I have ever followed pro starcraft I am extreamly glad that I chose to decidate time to this.

Skt1 to feast on the broken flesh of Oz players.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-06 05:14:29
August 06 2009 05:09 GMT
#26
On August 06 2009 13:51 iPF[Div] wrote:
wtf is a rubicon




It's the river Ceaser crossed to enter Rome. By crossing the river Caesar was disobeying Pompey's orders. 50 BC is great stuff
geegee1
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States618 Posts
August 06 2009 05:09 GMT
#27
even though you pointed out many predictions and 100% bisu will win perfectman and other new players and as a big SKT fan we cannot underestimate hwaseung Oz because we seen how these playoffs go as Miracle himself pulled BIG MIRACLES and perfectman himself pulled a win against iris. even orion kicking jaedong ass was unexcepted. we just cannot underestimate hwaseung Oz because their players might make a upset or skt pulling a "HYUK" but we never know but one day im sure of is that SKT will this PL GRAND FINAL
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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
August 06 2009 05:10 GMT
#28
Incredible writeup.
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
August 06 2009 05:10 GMT
#29
Great write-up <3
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tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
August 06 2009 05:14 GMT
#30
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That is all.
DeepGray
Profile Joined October 2008
United States214 Posts
August 06 2009 05:15 GMT
#31
On August 06 2009 13:51 iPF[Div] wrote:
wtf is a rubicon

Brush up on your history or geography...
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 06 2009 05:16 GMT
#32
Bwahaha. This is going to be awesome.

Thx for the writeup.

BTW, where's the people who usually do the statistics?
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Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
August 06 2009 05:20 GMT
#33
I had to lol at this line "Iris/Effort/Skyhigh/Kwanro is way more fearsome than Bisu/Fantasy/Canata/Best". Though I do tout the SKT icon so maybe I'm biased.
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
August 06 2009 05:21 GMT
#34
I loved this format, so many contributors made this long read as fresh as it gets. I don't know if this took more work and coordination than usual, but a hype as this is only fitting for the finals. Can't fucking wait.
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Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
August 06 2009 05:25 GMT
#35
I am really pumped after reading this

ahhhhh grand finals!
mister.bubbles
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada171 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-06 05:31:14
August 06 2009 05:27 GMT
#36
I think Jaedong is as much of a deciding factor in whether Oz takes this as his dopey teammates. The minimum wins Oz has to take can look like so:

Jaedong:3
Not Jaedong:2

I think it is safe to say that Oz's weaker players should be able to take two wins (especially since if they do it on day one both those wins can be taken off T1 zergs who have a legacy of their own to live up to). Jaedong on the other hand will have to face T1's aces in the deciding games of this series, who, with Bisu and Fantasy in their number, are among the best Broodwar has seen.

Therein lies the heart of this conflict. We know Jaedong is capable of beating anyone in the world and equally capable of failing. I think that these matches will be decided not by the caliber of Oz's backup lineup, but by whether Jaedong decides to take the crown that destiny has offered him and rise from legend-killer to legend in the flesh.

[Edit] Although if the Oz backup fails as hard as they did against CJ it's gonna be lights out really fast. I think Oz has a lot more that could go wrong and a lot more that needs to go right to pull an upset[Edit]
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imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
August 06 2009 05:30 GMT
#37
very nice!!! go skt1
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Acidic Pirate
Profile Joined July 2009
United States38 Posts
August 06 2009 05:33 GMT
#38
Rooting for SKT all the way
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Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
August 06 2009 05:40 GMT
#39
Can't wait!
SNARF HWAITING
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 06 2009 05:44 GMT
#40
I was half-ass awake 15 minutes ago ... but now I totally am ...

Wicked writeup imo ... I couldn't wait for the finals, and now after reading this article, it just got worse ...
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
August 06 2009 05:45 GMT
#41
It's so awesome that game 1 is fantasy vs Jaedong.

I really wonder how much can be attributed to Boxer's return to SKTT1. I would say the main success of SKT has been the rise of Fantasy as a stable player (and thezerg's small winstreak in Round 4 allowed for a LOT of 3-1s between him and fantasy/Bisu). Can most of fantasy's 2009 success be attributed to Boxer returning? Maybe, I mean fantasy is easily the most like boxer in play-style out of the modern Terrans I would say.
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saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
August 06 2009 05:47 GMT
#42
Great writeup.

Oz all the way!
Heaven_n
Profile Joined April 2009
Mexico170 Posts
August 06 2009 05:48 GMT
#43
fantasy vs jaedong bisu vs jaedong super ace will be WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
August 06 2009 05:48 GMT
#44
Great writeup riptide ^^
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Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
August 06 2009 05:48 GMT
#45
oh yeah almost forgot, AWESOME WRITEUP! ^_^
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19343 Posts
August 06 2009 05:48 GMT
#46
great write up, just finished reading it, i lb'd skt but rooting for oz (unless boxer plays)

thanks for the effort, very entertaining
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ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
August 06 2009 05:51 GMT
#47
Riptide, you write some awesome articles! Keep them coming!

OZ HWAITING!!!!!
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BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
August 06 2009 05:51 GMT
#48
awesome write up!

gogo321 SKT GO!!
wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
August 06 2009 05:53 GMT
#49
Wow very nice writeup.
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
August 06 2009 05:54 GMT
#50
This was intense and hype filled the whole long way, great job and thanks for the writeup!
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 06 2009 05:55 GMT
#51
Oh god... I hope 2 of the 3 with a chance (backho/ggaemo/killer) on the first day can pull out a win. If so it gives us hope for the super-ace and maybe the most hyped game of all time if bisu (or fantasy) are sent!
NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
August 06 2009 06:00 GMT
#52
but the people it’s going to come down to to bring in those extra points needed for a team victory are the Terrans.


I don't know how you come to that conclusion, looking at the matchups. This is really all about what happens in Hyuk vs ggaemo, and Thezerg vs. Killer. OZ's plan is Jaedong + 2 wins + ace on one day. These games are against SK's weakest players, and ZvZ can be very random and unforgiving. The odds of OZ taking both of these is better than the odds of them taking any other combination of 2 games that day.

After that, if Jaedong did his job in taking out Fantasy, it's on to the ace match vs... well, Fantasy.

The only place that the Terrans in this matchup matter is when they're playing Jaedong. Their other games are essentially conceded from the beginning.

Lomo's going to fail because... that's what Lomo does. He can't play, period. Why do you think they stuck him on that map? And Hiya drew Bisu on day one, so that's a priori done.

OZ's fate will be decided in two ZvZ's, not in Terran matchups.

On August 06 2009 13:51 iPF[Div] wrote:
wtf is a rubicon


It's a river in Italy. In the time of Ceaser, it separated the Roman homeland from not-Rome. By marching his Legion across the Rubicon, Ceaser declared his intention to take Rome.
So you know, cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come up and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them, it doesn't always go so well. - Shigeru Miyamoto
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-06 06:02:17
August 06 2009 06:00 GMT
#53
I've never picked a team icon because I really like several teams. But I just realized that when it comes down to it, my two favorite teams are SKT and OZ.

Man, this is going to be an amazing finals.

On August 06 2009 15:00 NicolBolas wrote:
Lomo's going to fail because... that's what Lomo does. He can't play, period.

I bet you the kid will prove you wrong. Lomo is taking at least one of his games.
May the BeSt man win.
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
August 06 2009 06:01 GMT
#54
nice writeup.can't wait for the finals.hoping that SKT takes this one.
You have the power to create your own destiny.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
August 06 2009 06:03 GMT
#55
Guys you really have to calm down... Keep this up and your writeups are going to challenge the actual events.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
August 06 2009 06:05 GMT
#56
This is why I love TL.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
August 06 2009 06:14 GMT
#57
This may sound a bit noob, but how (if possible) do you watch the proleague live?
Many thanks in advance!
mister.bubbles
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada171 Posts
August 06 2009 06:16 GMT
#58
On August 06 2009 15:00 NicolBolas wrote:
OZ's fate will be decided in two ZvZ's, not in Terran matchups.


This counts on Jaedong to pull through in the ace matches against Fantasy, Bisu or some other cheese wielding sniper. I think it's Jaedong who will set the stage more than the other two Oz zergs. Killer and ggaemo both get to practice with Jaedong. The SKT1 zergs only get to practice with each other.
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iPF[Div]
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain572 Posts
August 06 2009 06:17 GMT
#59
On August 06 2009 14:15 DeepGray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 13:51 iPF[Div] wrote:
wtf is a rubicon

Brush up on your history or geography...


Picture of GoRush in a sleeveless shirt stole my eyes away from the introduction. My apologies.
Since ma jae yoon and jin young soo stabbed me in the fucking back, i've got no one to rep here.
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
August 06 2009 06:32 GMT
#60
SKT destine to redeem themself by taking 1st in 08-09 proleauge
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 06 2009 06:32 GMT
#61
On August 06 2009 14:45 Ideas wrote:
It's so awesome that game 1 is fantasy vs Jaedong.

I really wonder how much can be attributed to Boxer's return to SKTT1. I would say the main success of SKT has been the rise of Fantasy as a stable player (and thezerg's small winstreak in Round 4 allowed for a LOT of 3-1s between him and fantasy/Bisu). Can most of fantasy's 2009 success be attributed to Boxer returning? Maybe, I mean fantasy is easily the most like boxer in play-style out of the modern Terrans I would say.

It might just be a coincidence but I realize SKT's TvZ has improved a lot since Boxer's return.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
August 06 2009 06:33 GMT
#62
A bone to pick with your recap of SKT-1's 2006 championship: Oov already feared Savior at this point. Oov's "invincible" TvZ was no longer invincible.



As for predictions, I actually think that OZ has a shot. They need to put all their eggs into the day 1 basket (again).

Fantasy definitely can win against JD, but on a map that gives Zerg the advantage, JD should take it.

However, don't entirely count Lomo out on his TvT with Canata. They are 1-1 vs each other and just like how Canata used to be known for his TvT, Lomo's TvT used to be whispered as being strong (then the floor dropped out from under him). Rather ironically, Lomo's "good TvT era" came to an end after beating Canata last time. Canata is the obvious favorite, but don't write Lomo off; SkyHigh is undeniably one of the top 3 TvT players in the world (and he raped Leta twice to prove it) and Canata's TvT right now is not the same level.

ggaemo vs Hyuk is totally up in the air.

While Best's PvP has always been strong (even if it looks much weaker now than it did before), BackHo is "Mr. I Can Win Or Lose Vs Anyone" himself.

Killer vs thezerg is totally up in the air.

And while Bisu is the serious favorite vs Hiya, don't discount the dragon slayer.

If OZ makes it to the ace match they should take it. Neo harmony forces SKT-1 to send Fantasy because of the bad PvZ there. JD should prepare to play Fantasy twice and if he focuses especially hard on this game, then they have a chance.

Day 2 looks bad for OZ and the super ace is on Destination, which again is a map where SKT-1 should rely on Fantasy because of the strong TvZ there, but they can also use Bisu if necessary. However, Destination is not terrible for Zerg, so OZ can win if JD can get to play the super ace.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 06 2009 06:33 GMT
#63
On August 06 2009 14:16 eshlow wrote:
BTW, where's the people who usually do the statistics?


Originally I set out to find some fun "POST SEASON STATS" stuff but nothing interesting at all was around. I can add that % stuff I sometimes do if people want it but realistically the series will probably end at 1-1 like every other playoff series so far, at which point it comes down to how good jaedong is on saturday agaisnt bisu or fantasy (whoever SKT likes more on that map I guess?).
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FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
August 06 2009 06:37 GMT
#64
Great writeup.. long but worth the reading.

Now I just cant wait anylonger for this Final.. I just hope that Backho and JD wins ;D

And dont take Lomo for a scrub.. yeah he is not Fantasy or he is not Flash but he is capable of winning against a Terran on that map (if he doesnt suicide all of his tanks agains to a mine), remember that on the last SKT1 vs Oz Lomo won against Fantasy (idk if the last but he won).
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10637 Posts
August 06 2009 06:43 GMT
#65
To bad they play BO1 (in each matchup)... :/ Would be way more awesome if PL-Final would be 7 BO3's...
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
August 06 2009 06:46 GMT
#66
Nice write up.
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
August 06 2009 06:56 GMT
#67
SKT GOGOGO! I was really hoping for a khan v skt final, since the two teams are so similar, but this is better than skt v cj because of jaedong v bisu.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Faronel
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States658 Posts
August 06 2009 06:57 GMT
#68
Nice article... SKT1 FTW!!!
C'est la vie...
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 06 2009 07:00 GMT
#69
On August 06 2009 15:43 Velr wrote:
To bad they play BO1 (in each matchup)... :/ Would be way more awesome if PL-Final would be 7 BO3's...

Then Grand Finals should be like a week long ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
August 06 2009 07:06 GMT
#70
On August 06 2009 16:00 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 15:43 Velr wrote:
To bad they play BO1 (in each matchup)... :/ Would be way more awesome if PL-Final would be 7 BO3's...

Then Grand Finals should be like a week long ...

...fest of awesomeness.
Jaedong
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
August 06 2009 07:23 GMT
#71
Impressive :D

Enjoyed it. Despite the history buff in me rebelling against the [most likely] misquote.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
August 06 2009 07:28 GMT
#72
GO HWASEUNG OZ! Shove it in iloveoov's face after you guys take the championship.
n.Die_Jaedong <3
liaf
Profile Joined April 2009
Norway318 Posts
August 06 2009 07:31 GMT
#73
I think that people shouldn't underestimate Lomo and Hiya on day 1. Lomo recently beat Fantasy on Shades of Twilight and Fantasy's tvt is better than Canata's. Hiya may be up against Bisu, but it's important to remember that tvp is Hiya's best match up and Bisu's worst.
♥ Snute ♥ Scarlett ♥ Jaedong ♥ KeeN ♥
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
August 06 2009 07:55 GMT
#74
SICK writeup with so much history and knowledge. Thanks.
Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
August 06 2009 07:59 GMT
#75
SKT has the advantage of sending out either a T or P for a ace/super ace against JD. JD can't practice for everything.
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
August 06 2009 08:06 GMT
#76
On August 06 2009 16:59 Railz wrote:
SKT has the advantage of sending out either a T or P for a ace/super ace against JD. JD can't practice for everything.

Thats very true but I would also say that Jaedong is way more motivated to win than any SKT Ace.
I think its about 50% for Jaedong to win Super Ace if it comes down to it.

Great article really enjoyed it.
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-06 08:10:45
August 06 2009 08:09 GMT
#77
This is going to end with the Gorilla back in the zoo and Grandpa in the retirement home.

It's time for a real revolutionist. Under this new Monarchy, one man will lead the way, he and his Secret Police will destroy everything in their path.

It's time for a new dynasty.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
August 06 2009 09:03 GMT
#78
On August 06 2009 17:09 keV. wrote:
This is going to end with the Gorilla back in the zoo and Grandpa in the retirement home.

It's time for a real revolutionist. Under this new Monarchy, one man will lead the way, he and his Secret Police will destroy everything in their path.

It's time for a new dynasty.


you dare utter such blasphemy???

off with his head!

long live skt1!!! =o =o =o
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
ZooG
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden618 Posts
August 06 2009 09:06 GMT
#79
If you think it's over, Better think again
There'll be no compromise, Turning up the power
Feel adrenaline, Move into overdrive

Here comes the revolution
Time for retribution

If you think I'd back down, Or accept defeat
Brace for the aftershock, Driven to the limit
Take it to the streets, Give it everything you've got

Here comes the revolution
Time for retribution

Time to come together, Revolution
Living on forever, Revolution
Get ready for the evolution

Here comes the revolution
Time for retribution

SKT1 FIGHTING~

(Judas Priest - Revolution)
"Rain, also a name for a meteorological condition" -Artosis
moon`
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States372 Posts
August 06 2009 09:08 GMT
#80
Very nice writeup! :D Go oz!!
Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like pandabearguy.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
August 06 2009 09:21 GMT
#81
Dear Santa,
if you make Bisu go 3-0 vs Jaedong in the Grand Finals, I will dedicate my whole life to charity, human rights and world peace. I will study hard from now on, I will never cheat on my GF and I will never lie my parents.

Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
August 06 2009 09:36 GMT
#82
GO SKT GOGOGOGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Omgomgomg if they go to the super ultra last ace match : SEND BOXER NUKE :D
Omgomgomgomgomg, so excited.
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
August 06 2009 09:39 GMT
#83
Sick writing.
I can barely wait to see Oz winning this.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
August 06 2009 10:08 GMT
#84
On August 06 2009 13:51 iPF[Div] wrote:
wtf is a rubicon

omg i hope for your life you are joking
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structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
August 06 2009 10:49 GMT
#85
epic writeup, the match itself now has a lot to live up to!
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
August 06 2009 10:57 GMT
#86
On August 06 2009 13:51 iPF[Div] wrote:
wtf is a rubicon

here

+ Show Spoiler +
just kidding
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
August 06 2009 10:57 GMT
#87
Great writeup as always!

btw. will anyone stream it at mogulus?
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
August 06 2009 11:01 GMT
#88
wow, props for the length.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
August 06 2009 11:01 GMT
#89
Great story, good work people!
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
Vanimar
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
220 Posts
August 06 2009 11:06 GMT
#90
Stage is clearly set for an epic chance.
Point is, only Bellona herself (Roman war goddess) could help it.
But I still hope it will happen, Jaedong takes 5 of those 14 games (including super ace) and catapults himself over 4000 in KeSPA's Ranking :D

I know this won't happen, but just the chance of something THIS epic makes my giny tickle!!!
And really, all it takes is for Bellona to make 2 of Jaedongs minions win (twice), AND Jaedong to play at his best (at which point he becomes virtually undefeatable and will just walk through SKT like moses, with the sea letting him pass instead of trying to overcome his divine powers.

I like the Idea, I really do, unfortunately I think even Bellona might not be enough for those non-Jaedong wins to happen. But we shall see :D
I figured out the EG Curse. It was set in motion by Voodoo Shamans working for Millenium. Whenever EG aquires a player, Voodoo energies start slowly draining skill from the EG guy into an Millenium newcomer. Think about it!
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
August 06 2009 11:08 GMT
#91
Gogo Hwaseung! Jaedong's death stare will melt the entire SKT1 team! BackHo will loose 4 speed shuttles and still win his games!
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
August 06 2009 11:49 GMT
#92
On August 06 2009 14:06 Sunyveil wrote:
if anybody's a cocky young general, it's Bisu

Remind me again which player said he'd make this week Jaedong Week.

Was it Bisu?
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1208 Posts
August 06 2009 12:25 GMT
#93
Wow! Best coverage on an e-sport event EVER ... a really sincere THANK YOU to all the writers!!!!!
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
August 06 2009 12:47 GMT
#94
I think the interest towards Proleague is mainly because there are alot of new players in the scene, and the team-format appeals to them.

I for one think that proleague is kinda meh, but I'll watch good games. OSL/MSL is more interesting to me.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
August 06 2009 12:48 GMT
#95
On August 06 2009 20:49 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 14:06 Sunyveil wrote:
if anybody's a cocky young general, it's Bisu

Remind me again which player said he'd make this week Jaedong Week.

Was it Bisu?

Remind me again which player gave Jaedong horrible stats in the GOM special match and then had to eat his words by loosing.

Was it Bisu?

Yes it was.

And imho saying that he will make this week Jaedong week isn't cocky as much as it is being confident.

Anyway I'll stop this fanboyism before I kill myself. I actually like T1 and Bisu a whole lot to. I just prefer to root for the underdog.
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
DarkShadowz
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden321 Posts
August 06 2009 12:56 GMT
#96
omg this is the most epic writeup ever, I'm so PUMPED!

I actually want Oz to get a few wins vs my favorite team so I can have Bisu vs Jaedong in super Ace.
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
August 06 2009 13:07 GMT
#97
On August 06 2009 21:48 Belano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 20:49 Kyo Yuy wrote:
On August 06 2009 14:06 Sunyveil wrote:
if anybody's a cocky young general, it's Bisu

Remind me again which player said he'd make this week Jaedong Week.

Was it Bisu?

Remind me again which player gave Jaedong horrible stats in the GOM special match and then had to eat his words by loosing.

Was it Bisu?

Yes it was.

And imho saying that he will make this week Jaedong week isn't cocky as much as it is being confident.

Anyway I'll stop this fanboyism before I kill myself. I actually like T1 and Bisu a whole lot to. I just prefer to root for the underdog.

That's kind of a double standard in my opinion. "If Bisu talks boldly, it's arrogance, but if Jaedong talks boldly, it's confidence."

Then again, nobody ever gave Savior flak for saying "I will destroyed everyone in 2009" when he failed to do so except in Heritage and at the beginning of 2009.

Every player speaks a little cocky sometimes. It's just a shame that there's rampant blind fanboyism everywhere and people hate Bisu just because he plays Protoss/he's on SKT1 more or less.
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
August 06 2009 13:14 GMT
#98

That's kind of a double standard in my opinion. "If Bisu talks boldly, it's arrogance, but if Jaedong talks boldly, it's confidence."
.

I guess that is somewhat true but I still don't think that the two statements mentioned are in the same tone. Jaedong basically said "I will do good" whereas Bisu insulted Jaedong by giving him far worse stats than he deserved. To me, comparing those two statements, Jaedong was confident and Bisu was cocky. Thats just my opinion anyway.
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
Batibot
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines348 Posts
August 06 2009 13:15 GMT
#99
looooooooooooooong writeup but, it's a good read. OZ HWAITING!!!
Jaedong has to be a Bonjwa. Tired of of rooting for July.
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
August 06 2009 13:44 GMT
#100
On August 06 2009 13:51 iPF[Div] wrote:
wtf is a rubicon


its like a line you cross and never turn back. kind of like point of no return, but more of a decisive mind matter....
The artist formerly known as Starparty
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 06 2009 13:48 GMT
#101
I'm going to cheer for the underdog though. Go Hwaseung Oz!
Brood War loyalist
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
August 06 2009 13:51 GMT
#102
a very looong read but it's all worth it!!!

i can't wait for tomorrow's games... although i lost some of my excitement when bisu lost the other night

anyhow, SKT T1 HWAIIITING!!!
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
August 06 2009 13:59 GMT
#103
GO OZ. i'm so sad that i will not have access to a computer this weekend
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
August 06 2009 14:16 GMT
#104
What an epic read omg...nice writing skillz riptide & co ^___^
Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13918 Posts
August 06 2009 14:23 GMT
#105
So pumped red the side articles now.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
August 06 2009 14:30 GMT
#106
Woot gogogogogooo skt
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
August 06 2009 14:47 GMT
#107
SKTelecom!
cant wait!
very anxious to see what the coaches of SKT have cooked up for fantasy and canata, and the (repaired and rejuvinated) BESTTANK at work!
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
MagisterMan
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden525 Posts
August 06 2009 14:52 GMT
#108
Hope this goes to super ace. Go Oz!!
Nachos?
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-06 15:06:39
August 06 2009 15:05 GMT
#109
Well skt1 has the constant loser (T)Canata, why do people put their hopes in this guy? In my biased heart, (T)Canata is always the underdog to EVERY opponent. He is like the Terran (P)TerAtO
-,-
Danka
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Peru1018 Posts
August 06 2009 15:20 GMT
#110
Im rooting for SKT but Fantacist totally owned Atrioc in the Opening bash war.
Its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. - Mark Twain
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 06 2009 15:35 GMT
#111
On August 07 2009 00:05 SayTT wrote:
Well skt1 has the constant loser (T)Canata, why do people put their hopes in this guy? In my biased heart, (T)Canata is always the underdog to EVERY opponent. He is like the Terran (P)TerAtO

Sorry, but if you think that, then you're just plain misinformed. Canata's been playing quite well as of late, and his TvT has always been his strong point (his TvP isn't as good, but day 2 is less contested than day 1). Even on a bad day, Canata is no worse than Lomo in any matchup that isn't TvZ (which isn't relevant to this series).
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
August 06 2009 15:45 GMT
#112
Awsome write up, sexy riptide as always
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
fishyjoes
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany644 Posts
August 06 2009 15:57 GMT
#113
couldnt read it all but it looks great! thanks for the effort.
infinite fun: http://dagobah.biz/flash/loituma.swf
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
August 06 2009 16:00 GMT
#114
I'm sorry, but Galaxy Crusher is the coolest name ever.
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
August 06 2009 16:16 GMT
#115
man these articles have gotten so sick recently
thanks guys
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MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
August 06 2009 16:29 GMT
#116
On August 07 2009 01:00 Nylan wrote:
I'm sorry, but Galaxy Crusher is the coolest name ever.

Lol, hands down.

I am heart broken that I don't have internet for the weekend. Not a happy camper. Not happy at all.
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
August 06 2009 16:47 GMT
#117
Great writeup there, really got me even more excited for the Grand Final than I was before.

I'm rooting for neither team, really, being neutral in my opinions of them both, but I just can't wait to see some of the best games of SC ever as I'm sure they will be.

I've got a feeling that we will be in for a few surprises, particularly from those we consider to be the weaker players in the lineups.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
August 06 2009 16:55 GMT
#118
On August 06 2009 22:07 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2009 21:48 Belano wrote:
On August 06 2009 20:49 Kyo Yuy wrote:
On August 06 2009 14:06 Sunyveil wrote:
if anybody's a cocky young general, it's Bisu

Remind me again which player said he'd make this week Jaedong Week.

Was it Bisu?

Remind me again which player gave Jaedong horrible stats in the GOM special match and then had to eat his words by loosing.

Was it Bisu?

Yes it was.

And imho saying that he will make this week Jaedong week isn't cocky as much as it is being confident.

Anyway I'll stop this fanboyism before I kill myself. I actually like T1 and Bisu a whole lot to. I just prefer to root for the underdog.

That's kind of a double standard in my opinion. "If Bisu talks boldly, it's arrogance, but if Jaedong talks boldly, it's confidence."

Then again, nobody ever gave Savior flak for saying "I will destroyed everyone in 2009" when he failed to do so except in Heritage and at the beginning of 2009.

Every player speaks a little cocky sometimes. It's just a shame that there's rampant blind fanboyism everywhere and people hate Bisu just because he plays Protoss/he's on SKT1 more or less.

PR's also a double standard. Don't see you complaining in that.
Jaedong
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
August 06 2009 17:01 GMT
#119
Lol we write win such an epic style here. No wonder people are always trying to steal our writers.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
August 06 2009 17:28 GMT
#120
This is an amazing article. Really hyped me up for the final!
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
August 06 2009 18:24 GMT
#121
GALAXY TANKKKKkkkkkk... .... CRUSH!
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
August 06 2009 18:35 GMT
#122
WAR.
Stipulation
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States587 Posts
August 06 2009 18:38 GMT
#123
Where does one find a stream to watch the finals on?
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-06 19:18:26
August 06 2009 19:18 GMT
#124
On August 07 2009 03:38 Stipulation wrote:
Where does one find a stream to watch the finals on?


This thread will have the info you need at the bottom of the first post when it's close to time for the match to start (4 AM EST)
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
August 06 2009 19:18 GMT
#125
On August 07 2009 03:35 Matoo- wrote:
WAR.

It's Faaaannnntastic!
So close, and yet so far
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13918 Posts
August 06 2009 19:53 GMT
#126
Holy crap i just noticed its jaedong in that first picture what!
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
rockon1215
Profile Joined May 2009
United States612 Posts
August 06 2009 20:05 GMT
#127
When do the finals actually start?
Flash v Jaedong The finals that is ALWAYS meant to be
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 06 2009 20:12 GMT
#128
Less than 12 hours!!!! check the calender!!!!
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
kawoq
Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
August 06 2009 20:39 GMT
#129
Epic reading... just WOW...

thanks for all the effort, so will the SKT1 Titanic Crush Jaedong Iceberg or the history will repeat and the Iceberg will prevail??? Just a few more hours so find out....

Maybe wont be the iceberg what will sink the ship. I am cheering for SKT1 to win but I WANT SOME EPIC GAMES!!!!
"It is not a shameful thing to be unable to reach the goal. It's becoming afraid and running away, even before considering the fact that the road is long and rough, that is truly cowardly." by - Lim Yo Hwan aka SlayerS_Boxer from "Crazy as me"
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
August 06 2009 20:42 GMT
#130
SKT1
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
August 06 2009 20:49 GMT
#131
I think we can all agree that this match would be most suitably satisfied by a Bisu vs Jaedong super ace

On August 06 2009 20:06 Vanimar wrote:
Stage is clearly set for an epic chance.
Point is, only Bellona herself (Roman war goddess) could help it.
But I still hope it will happen, Jaedong takes 5 of those 14 games (including super ace) and catapults himself over 4000 in KeSPA's Ranking :D



Impossible. If Jaedong wins both ace matches, then the super ace is unnecessary
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mokinono
Profile Joined December 2008
United States19 Posts
August 06 2009 21:02 GMT
#132
Dude, from Latin to trash talk...BOY AM I PUMPED UP!!!!
Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
August 06 2009 21:10 GMT
#133
I as well have always been a fan of SKT since I started to follow StarCraft here at TeamLiquid. But unfortunately one of the reasons why I was so into SKT was Boxer and his Terran teammates, and I have never gotten to watch a live game of my hero in HIS team because of his military duties.

I am rooting for SKT and my dream would be a surprise in the Super Ace match bringing in Boxer to play Jaedong. On the other hand I really really really want to see Jaedong succeed. It would be absolutely surreal if JD won the OSL, MSL and ProLeague in the same year.

I'm a SKT fan but if it goes to the Super Ace between Bisu or whoever vs. JD, I want JD to win in hopes he gets the other titles too. I just want to be there to witness some truly epic stuff that I can cherish. The most epic thing I've been around for was July's Golden Mouse and Stork finally achieving gold.

Good luck to both teams. Looking forward to some cool displays of skill from the SKT Terrans.
Part Time Ninja
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
August 06 2009 21:28 GMT
#134
haha that group photo when their holding their vocals is so hilarious!
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
August 07 2009 00:17 GMT
#135
I think I pee'd my pants...
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 07 2009 00:39 GMT
#136
The only way this could've been better is if you had photoshopped Hiya's face onto one of the horses. :3
Remember Violet.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11549 Posts
August 07 2009 00:53 GMT
#137
S K T T 1!!!!

:D:D:D

great write up fana
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 07 2009 01:20 GMT
#138
This writeup is a fucking BEAST. Thank you for your work. I don't know how you do it :3
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Waffles
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Romania605 Posts
August 07 2009 01:28 GMT
#139
lol hyuk vs jaedong.
MrMoose
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada176 Posts
August 07 2009 03:01 GMT
#140
On August 06 2009 13:22 riptide wrote:
If Hyuk and Backho can manage wins on Day 2 to support Jaedong


I hate to nitpick on such an amazing write-up, but I think you meant Killer, not Hyuk.

Anyway, with that said, go SKT1!
When in doubt, lubricate!
Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
August 07 2009 03:09 GMT
#141
Translating alea iacta est as "the die is cast" is bad Latin grammar (despite most of the internet using this translation). It should be translated as "the die has been cast." The misunderstanding is likely due to the Latin est which usually is translated as "is". However in this context is actually part of the participle iacta est which is actually translated together as "has been cast".
one thing that sc2 has over bw is the fact that I can actually manage my hotkeys
Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
August 07 2009 04:00 GMT
#142
On August 06 2009 13:51 iPF[Div] wrote:
wtf is a rubicon

a river
one thing that sc2 has over bw is the fact that I can actually manage my hotkeys
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
August 07 2009 13:46 GMT
#143
Long but great writeup!

Thanks, keep up the good work!
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain345 Posts
August 07 2009 15:36 GMT
#144
T1 just raped OZ xD
Dizigen
Profile Joined December 2007
Canada28 Posts
August 07 2009 16:03 GMT
#145
+ Show Spoiler +
Bisu never even had to get off of his throne. Lee's men weep silently from the humiliating onslaught
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
August 07 2009 19:09 GMT
#146
What's humiliating is not getting any individual titles this season.
Jaedong
HARUKI
Profile Joined August 2009
10 Posts
August 08 2009 01:13 GMT
#147
Great write up, riptide ! I hope that Oz wins , other is over rate.
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