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[WCS KR] Ro32 - Group D Recap/Interviews (S1) - Page 3

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bloodyrooster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States15 Posts
April 12 2013 01:31 GMT
#41
TaeJa is the man
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
April 12 2013 01:58 GMT
#42
Well, if you're gonna give seeds out, and form a league and start it in season 2, wouldn't it make sense for the players to have a choice in picking where they want to compete in? Blizzard is collapsing entire league formats to get this done, so to make up for lost opportunities, they should let players pick.

From a business perspective though, Blizzard would want to lock the best players in their regions. Blizzard will leverage their status for more views and if they fall out, they fall out (oops). In the long run, players' importance become diminished (unlike the situation now, where players are valuable for their fans) by divorcing the fans from the players and making them fans of WCS instead. I'd be spending far less on live events, venue rental, prize money and get a whole load more competitors. Blizzard will have a monopoly on the game they created.

There are a few ways for players to combat this: a) through their independently established federations; b) through team sponsors who contribute a shed load to eSports; c) strike.

The consensus is that if the teams split, they will multiply, but that's not necessarily true. This is like doing a risky double expand with no defense.

Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
April 12 2013 02:02 GMT
#43
Q: What do you think of the WCS format in general?
A: It's great to the players on top, but it's very poor for players in the mid level of their teams or below. They can't go to other tournaments, and all they have is the GSL.

Kinda getting tired of people who keep saying this... you can play in 1 WCS region and as many other non-WCS tournaments as you like. That includes regular, non-WCS portion of MLG and IEM, as well as Dreamhack, NASL (if they still plan on putting out SC2 tournaments), and any other tournament that might come up, period.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 02:42:11
April 12 2013 02:41 GMT
#44
On April 12 2013 11:02 Soda-88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Q: What do you think of the WCS format in general?
A: It's great to the players on top, but it's very poor for players in the mid level of their teams or below. They can't go to other tournaments, and all they have is the GSL.

Kinda getting tired of people who keep saying this... you can play in 1 WCS region and as many other non-WCS tournaments as you like. That includes regular, non-WCS portion of MLG and IEM, as well as Dreamhack, NASL (if they still plan on putting out SC2 tournaments), and any other tournament that might come up, period.


Their teams wont send them..... they only send the top guys to big events in general unless it was already paid for intended for an A teamer and they can't go cause of GSL or MLG etc and they end up sending a Bteamer. The korean guys are basically screwed if they aren't A teamers cause their teams might not allow them to go to MLG WCS instead of goin thru code A etc
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
ynori
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia21 Posts
April 12 2013 04:33 GMT
#45
those losers match games... really got me thinking >>

I know they are pro players and all, but the ability for 1 race to be so utterly behind in number (3 or 4 to 1) and still managed to fight back on through racial mechanics and basic units just feels... wrong somehow.

even though I am a terran myself, but after seeing those games, I really think it is a bit unfair to have what we have.
Probes are OP >.>
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 05:03:52
April 12 2013 05:02 GMT
#46
Taeja has been my favorite player for a while. It's awesome that he was able to advance in first despite the long games with his bad wrists. I just wish he was happier about it; his interview kind of gave me the impression that he has a frustrated/defeatist attitude atm

I hope its just the pain putting him in a bad mood and he'll be more optimistic after his time off to heal.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
April 12 2013 05:21 GMT
#47
On April 12 2013 11:02 Soda-88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Q: What do you think of the WCS format in general?
A: It's great to the players on top, but it's very poor for players in the mid level of their teams or below. They can't go to other tournaments, and all they have is the GSL.

Kinda getting tired of people who keep saying this... you can play in 1 WCS region and as many other non-WCS tournaments as you like. That includes regular, non-WCS portion of MLG and IEM, as well as Dreamhack, NASL (if they still plan on putting out SC2 tournaments), and any other tournament that might come up, period.


It sounds great... IF there are going to be other tournaments around. What makes you think MLG will be interested in sinking more investment with less returns in other live events? Do you really think Carmac is going to continue the IEM tours after focusing on the league? The only exceptions are Dreamhack and NASL, who now fulfill a specific niche. The problem is now sponsors - who/what will they sponsor, especially now that WCS will have more reach? DH and NASL can't compete. Sponsors look at reach as one of their KPIs, so obviously the most ROI for sponsors will be the tournament with the most reach. Also what makes you think other brands will want to share publicity? Hence, IEM (Intel Extreme Masters) and ASUS ROG. These are not consistent tournaments, they are one offs. If the ROI isn't there, they will drop the event. In other words, we will see a decline of big, independent, event-based tournaments like DH and MLG. Less events = less participants = less player rotation = less viewers = less interest generated.

Of course this would be from a Korean gaming stand point. It could grow communities to develop their own players and teams, but only time will tell. But if the US is anything to go by...
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 12 2013 06:49 GMT
#48
Good interviews bar the balance whine, its ok we get mad at each other on a forum, but the pros should stick to their game!

Grats to Losira and Taeja!
"NO" -Has
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
April 12 2013 07:37 GMT
#49
Wow Taeja nice dump on Blizzard there.
The dark side is strong in this one.
The curse is real
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 12 2013 08:18 GMT
#50
i kinda dislike taeja after this interview..
kanghos was really good
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Nightwishone
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy391 Posts
April 12 2013 08:54 GMT
#51
TaeJa + Coach Park... Enough said.
TaeJa IS a bonjwa. TLO - Scarlett - Snute - MaNa - HerO - TeamLiquid fighting!
spena
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada116 Posts
April 12 2013 13:57 GMT
#52
teaja is out for blood.. blizzard blood
It's easier to be terrified by an enemy you admire.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
April 12 2013 15:37 GMT
#53
On April 12 2013 17:54 Nightwishone wrote:
TaeJa + Coach Park... Enough said.

TaeJa isn't staying at the team house, lives at his parents' far away. So I don't think he has much dealings with Coach Park. Which probably also explains his extended absence from Proleague.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Nightwishone
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy391 Posts
April 12 2013 20:44 GMT
#54
On April 13 2013 00:37 Proseat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 17:54 Nightwishone wrote:
TaeJa + Coach Park... Enough said.

TaeJa isn't staying at the team house, lives at his parents' far away. So I don't think he has much dealings with Coach Park. Which probably also explains his extended absence from Proleague.

Yeah ^^ I've read about it, I was just joking after those egtl victories and all the #makeamiracle Coach Park facts since TaeJa won even with his wrists problems.
Ah, and In case you didn't know, TaeJa doesn't live at his parents. He lives inside Coach Park's plan, like everyone else
TaeJa IS a bonjwa. TLO - Scarlett - Snute - MaNa - HerO - TeamLiquid fighting!
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
April 12 2013 20:57 GMT
#55
Taejas opinion on blizz is pretty dumb imo. Also cant beliee fantasy didnt advance :c
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
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