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April 11th, 2013 18:29 GMT

2013 GSL Season 2

WCS Korea Season 1 - GSL




Code S Ro32 Group D
Recap: TaeJa and Losira advance


Winner Interviews
TaeJa and Losira


Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

Code S Ro32: Group D Recap

by Waxangel

Results via Live Report Thread by Karasaki.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
TaeJa vs. FanTaSy
(T)TaeJa <Akilon Wastes> (T)FanTaSy
(T)TaeJa <Star Station> (T)FanTaSy
(T)TaeJa <Daybreak> (T)FanTaSy

TaeJa wins 2-1!

TRUE vs. KangHo
(Z)TRUE <Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)KangHo
(Z)TRUE <Daybreak> (Z)KangHo
(Z)TRUE <Whirlwind> (Z)KangHo

KangHo wins 2-1!

Winners' Match
(T)TaeJa <Whirlwind> (Z)KangHo
(T)TaeJa <Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)KangHo
(T)TaeJa <Akilon Wastes> (Z)KangHo

TaeJa wins 2-1!

Losers' Match
(T)FanTaSy <Whirlwind> (Z)TRUE
(T)FanTaSy <Star Station> (Z)TRUE
(T)FanTaSy <Akilon Wastes> (Z)TRUE

TRUE wins 2-1!

Final Match
(Z)KangHo <Atlas> (Z)TRUE
(Z)KangHo <Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)TRUE
(Z)KangHo <> (Z)TRUE

KangHo wins 2-0!



TaeJa and KangHo advance to Code S RO16!



(T)TaeJa and (Z)LosirA progress, while (Z)TRUE and (T)FanTaSy entertain.

By the results alone, the story of Group D was KeSPA facing a reality check after the elation of Group C, with two of The Association's players being eliminated just a day after two had booked their Ro16 spots. (T)Liquid`TaeJa and (Z)LG-IM_LosirA, tried and true veterans of the GSL stage, proved to be far too much for Code S newcomers TRUE and Fantasy to handle and dropped them down to the Challenger League.

But looking at the content of the games, there's a different story: it was the most entertaining day of WCS Korea this season. The two eliminated players, (T)SKT_FanTaSy and (Z)8th_TRUE, proved that they were more than capable of playing wildly entertaining styles, even if they lacked the refinement to stay in Code S. TRUE might have even been the real star of the night in terms of in-game content, playing a relentlessly aggressive style reminiscent of KeSPA Zergs like Kwanro or JulyZerg before him.

There was another subplot still, as TaeJa attracted the most attention outside the game with his post-victory interview. Not only did he reveal the possibility of a long break due to his wrists, and early forfeiture of Code S due to that, but he also expressed his dissatisfaction with the WCS system and compared Blizzard unfavorably to competitor Riot Games. (Interview Below)

Initial Matches: TaeJa vs. Fantasy || TRUE vs. Losira

The first match of the night was a battle between Crown Princes, one self-named and the other the de facto heir to the SK Telecom empire. (T)FanTaSy successor of Boxer and iloveoov, took the upper hand early on, using hellbat drops to great effect to wear down and topple (T)Liquid`TaeJa in a macro game. However, TaeJa ('crown prince' in Korean) tied the series up almost immediately, as his FE with 2 rax-reaper crippled Fantasy's banshee rush before it even got started.

While the first two games were somewhat anti-climatic, the deciding game turned out to be one of the most exciting TvT HotS has seen yet. TaeJa's bio-tank locked horns against Fantasy's pure mech, with both players refusing to budge as they traded blows. The game ended up being decided in a close finish, with a half-base trade reducing both players' economies and armies severely. This ended up being to the bio player's benefit, and TaeJa exploited his mobility and better efficiency in small-to-mid scale engagements to deny Fantasy resources and earn a hard fought victory.

The ZvZ match between (Z)TRUE and (Z)LosirA proved to be uninteresting in comparison, although it had the added twist that both players had previously been teammates and friends on the Brood War team Hwaseung Oz. TRUE decided to bring aggressive builds in every single game, and their success or failure decided the outcome. While he was successful in game one, he failed to do sufficient damage in games two and three, giving Losira a 2 – 1 victory.

Still Korean, for a few more weeks

While (T)TaeJa said his worsening wrist condition, his WCS Season 2 region switch, and the possibility of having to take an extended rest made him okay with Ro32 elimination, it didn't seem to matter as he took out (Z)LosirA 2 – 1 to reach the Ro16 once more.

All three games against Losira played out in a similar way, with TaeJa playing a the standard bio-mine-medivac composition, while Losira pulled out an interesting solution by opening muta-ling-bane and then teching quickly to ultras and infestors. The new HotS features ended up being a key part of TaeJa's victory, as drops crippled Losira's economy in game one, and massive widow mine shots clinched victory in game three. To Losira's credit, he played masterfully all-around to take the second map, Bel'Shir vestige.

In the losers match, a desperate struggle to avoid elimination

The highlight series of the night – and of the GSL so far – was the losers match between (Z)8th_TRUE and (T)FanTaSy as they both sought to keep their hopes alive. Fantasy's infamy for refusing to surrender until the last moment was a key contributing factor to the excitement of the matches, as well as TRUE's fascinatingly aggressive style.

The first match was one of the best of the year. The game started off unusually, with TRUE showing his aggressive colors yet again by hurling speedbane bust after speedbane bust at Fantasy's defenses, despite the many mines that lay in his path. While at first it seemed futile, Fantasy seemed to get taken off-guard by how relentless TRUE was, reloading and attacking again when most Zergs would have decided to make a transition. The non-stop attacks crippled Fantasy's economy, and he seemed to be down for the count with over 80 SCVs dead within the first fifteen minutes of the game.

However, that was just the setup for the truly interesting part of the game. Even without SCVs, Fantasy still had marines and medivacs, which were all he needed to get him back in the game. A doom drop in TRUE's main got Fantasy right back in it, thanks to his stellar micro (TRUE bet that Fantasy couldn't possibly focus fire down six banelings in the middle of a speedling pack; Fantasy proved him wrong). On top of that, having lost all of his SCVs actually proved to be a weird advantage for Fantasy, as he still had minerals left to mine at his natural and third, while TRUE's unhampered drones had quickly mined out his main and natural. When Fantasy went on to drop and kill TRUE's only remaining base, the game fell into total disarray.

Too much happened to lay out completely what occured in the bizarre, low-resource situation scenario that followed. I hope it might suffice to say that the ending sequence featured a single dropship and two marines trying to hunt down a single mutalisk so that a banshee could win the game. In the end, TRUE's use of burrowed zerglings to disrupt enemy mining, and long-distance drone mining to make single mutalisks was enough to shut down Fantasy's desperate efforts and seal the deal.

The second game could only be a disappointment after the unusual and unique entertainment the first had provided, but it furthered TRUE's credentials as an offense-first player. Another baneling bust was attempted, but this time Fantasy defended successfully and took the game.

The final game between TRUE and Fantasy was another entertaining one, though it was more of a showcase for TRUE than a truly competitive match. TRUE decided to go for a Nydus all-in with zerglings and roaches, but had his plans revealed at the last second by a pesky reaper. With nothing to do but go for it anyway, TRUE forced the attack against an enemy with complete forewarning, going through the front door instead of the back. Through some miracle, TRUE managed to make the attack work to some degree, and put himself in a manageable, though disadvantageous spot.

And manage TRUE did, as he transitioned into a standard game and slowly got the better of his opponent. He responded deftly to Fantasy's drops, protected his bases, defused mines expertly, and slowly built himself an insurmountable lead. Fantasy stayed in the game until the bitter end in the hope of making another near comeback, but it was not to be, and he surrendered the series to TRUE.

And like that, poof. He's gone.

While TRUE put on the star performance of the night, he had his Code S debut brought to an end by Losira who awoke from his catnap to finally play again. The rematch was almost comically short compared to the long series that had come before, as Losira took the remaining Ro16 spot with a quick 2 – 0. Early baneling-ling attacks figured in again, except this time it was from Losira's side, and TRUE could not defend.


In Conclusion

(T)TaeJa: TaeJa has officially joined the club of players who do so well in spite of wrist problems that you wonder if it's just an elaborate fake (other members: Flash and Mvp). All kidding aside, TaeJa does look worse than he was at his prime, but even a diminished TaeJa is a player who has a great chance to reach the Code S Ro8 every season. His decision to pick NA next season was an interesting one, and we will have to see how that plays out.

(Z)LosirA: Like soO yesterday, it's hard to know what to make of Losira since he advanced by winning two ZvZs. He looked quite good in his one winning game against TaeJa, but that might not be enough against Terrans who are even more relentless droppers.

(Z)TRUE: Wow, what a debut performance in Code S. Not only did TRUE play well, but he played with panache, showing a uniquely aggressive style. Even the things he didn't do well were fun to watch, like his seven failed nydus attempts before he finally managed to make one in Fantasy's main (it did no damage).

(T)FanTaSy: Fantasy is stuck in the same zone he was back in November of 2012, where we're all raving about his potential to be amazing in SC2. However, he's still rough around the edges, and has the same issues with supply blocks and keeping up with his macro. His TvT is up at a high level, but his other match-ups need work if he's going to challenge in Code S.

Winner Interviews

(T)Liquid`TaeJa

Q: How you feel about topping your group?
A: Before the games the condition of my wrists suddenly got worse so I showed up without being able to practice much. I came thinking it was okay to lose, but surprisingly I won.

Q: You decided to go to NA next season anyway, did that help you stay calm and not get nervous?
A: I might have to take a break because of my wrists, so I had a situation where I might have had to forfeit Code S. I felt I could play NA later even if I rested one season.

Q: Against Fantasy, his hellbat drops did a ton of damage to you in game one.
A: In the first game, I just played the game as it came to me, I just played without thinking. In the third game I made turrets thinking not to get hurt by that again.

Q: Fantasy used mech play while you went for bio-tank. What do you think of those compositions, and do you play mech styles as well?
A: I don't think Mech is better than bio in HotS. It's good for building on a lead you have, but the games I had against Fantasy were pretty even, so bio was better in those situations.

Q: Have you seen the NA player list? What do you think?
A: A lot of not well-known players got seeds. I'll make Blizzard regret giving the seeds to other players instead of me. I didn't like Blizzard that much before, so I dislike even more (laughs). Compared to riot, they don't seem to really be considerate of people who play the games.

Q: How bad is the state of your wrists?
A: I can't fully put strength into my fingers. It got worse after it got slightly better in season one. I'll go to the hospital tomorrow to get a detailed examination.

Q: Well now that you're in the Ro16, what's your goal?
A: I didn't expect to advance, but now that I'm here I want to go to the Ro4.

Q: The Ro4 has been your limit in the GSL so far.
A: I don't practice focusing on one race, I practice on the ladder. So I think I'm lacking in preparation against a specific opponent.

Q: Would you stay in the KR region if you got a good result and another seed, like Ro4+?
A: It would depend on how my wrists are. I think even if I reached the Ro8 I would have had to give up the spot.

Q: What do you think of the WCS format in general?
A: It's great to the players on top, but it's very poor for players in the mid level of their teams or below. They can't go to other tournaments, and all they have is the GSL.

Q: How did the Nazgul feel about your choice?
A: It didn't seem like he liked it so much, because it meant giving up Code S.

Q: Anyone you want to face in the Ro16?
A: I don't have any plans. I'll pick anyone who asks to be picked.

Q: Final comments?
A: Thanks to our sponsors ShinyThings, Razer, Twitch, and Barracuda. Thanks to San, Daisy, Yongsu (Dragon?) Hyung, and Cheonjae Hyung from the NoS clan who came to cheer for me in this match.


(Z)LG-IM_LosirA

Q: How do you feel advancing?
A: (Long silence) I feel really good, but I feel bad because I had to beat a friend and teammate in TRUE.

Q: Did you feel bad getting in the same group?
A: I felt good on one hand getting to play against a player I had friendly competition against, in a real tournament. On the other hand, I felt bad that I was in a situation where one of us could eliminate the other.

Q: It's your birthday today. If you were unlucky, the matches could have ended after midnight.
A: I'm very happy I won, so I don't really even think about that.

Q: TRUE played a lot of early aggression strategies in your series. Did you expect it?
A: I had it in mind, but I didn't know he would go to such extremes.

Q: You went muta-bane-ling into fast ultras against TaeJa, is that the answer you've found for ZvT?
A: I think it's one of the solutions.... But Terran is strong...

Q: What did you think while watching the games between TRUE and Fantasy?
A: I thought wow, TRUE is really good. That he can play that way, not even doing damage and getting behind, but somehow evening things up and actually winning. I thought TRUE was really amazing.

Q: Your teammates, Nestea and Mvp decided to go the EU and America regions.
A: I'm not at that stage to think about it yet. They are great players, and it's their choice, and I think they will do well whatever they do.

Q: Your goal this season?
A: Championship.

Q: You returned to Code S last season, but it didn't go so well.
A: Practice is the only answer, that's all I can do. Find solutions in practice and get stronger.

Q: Any preferred races or opponents in the Ro16?
A: No, nothing of that sort. I'd like an even mix. Something I can practice for while raising my overall skill.

Q: Lots of people say ZvP is hard, so were you happy you got no Protoss opponents in this group?
A: I thought it would be fine if I had Protoss opponents. I like Protoss.

Q: What are your thoughts on the new system with WCS in place?
A: I think it's good for players in high places, and they can get fame and fortune commensurate to their skill. But in terms of all players getting a shot, I think that's that's gone. It's very disappointing.

Q: What do your fellow players say about it?
A: I don't think they liked it.

Q: Squirtle is the only LG-IM player left who has Code S matches now.
A: I think he can do well.

Q: You lost against Axiom-Acer in the GSTL, your thoughts on that?
A: I am practicing for GSTL as much as individual leagues, I don't doubt that the team will get good results. I'm confident.

Q: Final comments?
A: Thanks to our head coach, coach, and Seed for coming to the game. Also thanks to our coaches' wife and the players who practiced with me. Also, I want to tell TRUE good game, and that he really did well. Also, thanks to one of the GomTV writers for giving me chocolates on my birthday.



Writers: Waxangel.
Graphics: Shiroiusagi
Editor: Waxangel.
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Koromon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States304 Posts
April 11 2013 18:33 GMT
#2
*Points out the obvious mislinking* (is misslinking even the problem?)

Would've preferred anyone out of the group over Losira, but 1 Z and 1 T out is fine too I guess.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 11 2013 18:35 GMT
#3
--- Nuked ---
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33211 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 18:41:33
April 11 2013 18:41 GMT
#4
On April 12 2013 03:33 Koromon wrote:
*Points out the obvious mislinking* (is misslinking even the problem?)

Would've preferred anyone out of the group over Losira, but 1 Z and 1 T out is fine too I guess.


you should have pointed out the obvious front page complete meltdown too!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 11 2013 18:42 GMT
#5
Yeeeey LosirA got chocolates !

Intresting that all koreans seem rather bitter about WCS, understandible for most of there team mates will get hit hard.
Azriel
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico462 Posts
April 11 2013 18:43 GMT
#6
How weird that Taeja has never reached finals. He is such a skilled guy.
faiza
Profile Joined June 2012
United States451 Posts
April 11 2013 18:47 GMT
#7
Taeja:
I'll make Blizzard regret giving the seeds to other players instead of me. I didn't like Blizzard that much before, so I dislike even more (laughs). Compared to riot, they don't seem to really be considerate of people who play the games.


Best thing he's ever said in an interview.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33211 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 18:53:26
April 11 2013 18:53 GMT
#8
Truly a momentous day, two of the worst interviewees in StarCraft II gave pretty good interviews.

YoDa now solidly in first place in the 'worst starcraft ii interviewees' ranking.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 18:56:41
April 11 2013 18:53 GMT
#9
Taeja is IN CODE S KOREA, and is angry he didn't get an NA seed? Why would blizzard seed people from one code S to another? Seems perfectly logical to me that he didn't get one.

Truly a momentous day, two of the worst interviewees in StarCraft II gave pretty good interviews.

You thought Losira's was good? O.O

edit - It's actually not awful, I just read the first and last bit. The real meat was in the middle.
Refer to my post.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
April 11 2013 18:54 GMT
#10
On April 12 2013 03:53 Zenbrez wrote:
Taeja is IN CODE S KOREA, and is angry he didn't get an NA seed? Why would blizzard seed people from one code S to another? Seems perfectly logical to me that he didn't get one.
Show nested quote +

Truly a momentous day, two of the worst interviewees in StarCraft II gave pretty good interviews.

You thought Losira's was good? O.O


He said pretty good. =)

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33211 Posts
April 11 2013 18:56 GMT
#11
On April 12 2013 03:53 Zenbrez wrote:
Taeja is IN CODE S KOREA, and is angry he didn't get an NA seed? Why would blizzard seed people from one code S to another? Seems perfectly logical to me that he didn't get one.
Show nested quote +

Truly a momentous day, two of the worst interviewees in StarCraft II gave pretty good interviews.

You thought Losira's was good? O.O

edit - It's actually not awful, I just read the first and last bit. The real meat was in the middle.


by his standards
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
April 11 2013 18:58 GMT
#12
On April 12 2013 03:53 Zenbrez wrote:
Taeja is IN CODE S KOREA, and is angry he didn't get an NA seed? Why would blizzard seed people from one code S to another? Seems perfectly logical to me that he didn't get one.
Show nested quote +

Truly a momentous day, two of the worst interviewees in StarCraft II gave pretty good interviews.

You thought Losira's was good? O.O

More than one sentence as an answer? That's revolutionary for them.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 11 2013 19:02 GMT
#13
On April 12 2013 03:53 Zenbrez wrote:
Taeja is IN CODE S KOREA, and is angry he didn't get an NA seed? Why would blizzard seed people from one code S to another? Seems perfectly logical to me that he didn't get one.
Show nested quote +

Truly a momentous day, two of the worst interviewees in StarCraft II gave pretty good interviews.

You thought Losira's was good? O.O

edit - It's actually not awful, I just read the first and last bit. The real meat was in the middle.


You should read the Code A qualifiers interviews ...
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
April 11 2013 19:04 GMT
#14
TAEJA!
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
April 11 2013 19:05 GMT
#15
Go Taeja! I hope his wrists can hold long enough for him to make it to at least the Ro4!
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Garoodah
Profile Joined January 2012
United States56 Posts
April 11 2013 19:21 GMT
#16
LosirA fighting!!!
"Oh man we've got GG-lords"
Buddy168
Profile Joined June 2012
United States157 Posts
April 11 2013 19:30 GMT
#17
Flash had wrist problems as well?

Terran curse?
"You're being a useless fucking asshole" - Day[9]
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
April 11 2013 19:36 GMT
#18
On April 12 2013 04:30 Buddy168 wrote:
Flash had wrist problems as well?

Terran curse?


MVP as well. I think it comes from Terran having the hardest micro.
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
April 11 2013 19:44 GMT
#19
Wow! that's an angry Interview from Taeja...
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 19:46:01
April 11 2013 19:45 GMT
#20
I really like both TaeJa and LosirA, but those interviews... Ah well, at least these are slightly above their average, haha - though, I do hate when TaeJa complains in his interviews, but this time at least it's not randomly about balance.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
April 11 2013 19:50 GMT
#21
I hope TaeJa prevails in making Blizzard regret and stuff like that!
rip prime
Nuubie
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden66 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 20:19:00
April 11 2013 20:15 GMT
#22
Q: How do you feel advancing?
A: (Long silence) I feel really good, but I feel bad because I had to beat a friend and teammate in TRUE.


Hmm, correct me if im wrong but his teammate true isnt even in Code A, this was Team8_TRUE?
Is the interview fake? :o

edit: nvm, they played in Hwaseung OZ together years ago
He had the same don't-give-a-f*** attitude from his stream, where he all-ins every game and shamelessly plays three ads.
Archen
Profile Joined April 2012
United States79 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 20:21:05
April 11 2013 20:20 GMT
#23
guy above me had exact same question, but with an answer lol.
"Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse." - Liquid.Nony
Kohoru
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden12 Posts
April 11 2013 20:26 GMT
#24
Taeja switching to lol?!
might be better for the wrists?
RorO. period
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9152 Posts
April 11 2013 20:29 GMT
#25
Q: Have you seen the NA player list? What do you think?
A: A lot of not well-known players got seeds. I'll make Blizzard regret giving the seeds to other players instead of me. I didn't like Blizzard that much before, so I dislike even more (laughs). Compared to riot, they don't seem to really be considerate of people who play the games.


That is some real talk right there.
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 20:39:32
April 11 2013 20:36 GMT
#26
Someone tell taeja that if he got a season 1 WCS NA seed, then he would possibly be playing in WCS KR and WCS NA at the same time if he got far in code s. Of course it makes sense for anyone in code s this season to only be allowed to play in season 2 of other regions. Just like how MC didn't get a seed for europe. You can't play in two regions simultaneously.
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skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
April 11 2013 20:37 GMT
#27
TL vs Blizzard round 1
as1
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
April 11 2013 21:18 GMT
#28
On April 12 2013 03:33 Koromon wrote:
*Points out the obvious mislinking* (is misslinking even the problem?)

Would've preferred anyone out of the group over Losira, but 1 Z and 1 T out is fine too I guess.


Why the hate on LosirA? Is it because he changed his name? Or you just don't like his style of play?
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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
April 11 2013 21:33 GMT
#29
Taeja got a little bit of sass going on :o
Though I can't pretend it's unjustified; there are gonna be major shakeups on all of the pro teams and players who realize they can't make it and retire before we finally see WCS achieve the kind of epicness that Blizzard is planning
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 21:36:23
April 11 2013 21:35 GMT
#30
I'm a bit taken aback by TaeJa's mood swings and his obliviousness toward GSL and specifically Code S. I wish he hadn't picked NA already. I guess there is no way for him to still change back to KR if he goes far this season again?

I want to see a bloodthirsty TaeJa who cannot wait to tear up the leagues. A TaeJa who will not miss a chance to fight alongside his teammates in Proleague like he used to. A happy TaeJa with his wrist problems resolved. A TaeJa who does not disparage himself all the time. Oh well.
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
April 11 2013 21:37 GMT
#31
SHOTS FIRED
Long live the Boss Toss!
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
April 11 2013 21:39 GMT
#32
really impressive by waxangel to do the recaps and the interviews.
thanks for that.
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erby
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
464 Posts
April 11 2013 21:51 GMT
#33
I would watch a tv show called "Real Talk with TaeJa". Granted, it would be something like 5 minutes long given his brevity, but 5 minutes of putting people on blast sounds like a good time.
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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
April 11 2013 22:13 GMT
#34
Taeja should go on the "On Blast Show." Although I think it would annihilate TL's virgin ears.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 11 2013 23:00 GMT
#35
Why would he expect a seed in NA when he's already playing in KR? That's kinda ridiculous.
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elderamy
Profile Joined January 2013
Portugal17 Posts
April 11 2013 23:10 GMT
#36
On April 12 2013 08:00 GolemMadness wrote:
Why would he expect a seed in NA when he's already playing in KR? That's kinda ridiculous.


Maybe because when they announced WCS he was already in code S and didn't really got the chance to choose where to play... So he is forced to play KR when he wanted NA...

Players could play all kind of tournaments and suddenly players can only play 1 region and don't really get the chance to pick for season 1...

it really sucks... i'll be watching my fav players a lot less...
Taeja, Jaedong, HerO, Snute, TLO!
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
April 11 2013 23:31 GMT
#37
On April 12 2013 08:10 elderamy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 08:00 GolemMadness wrote:
Why would he expect a seed in NA when he's already playing in KR? That's kinda ridiculous.


Maybe because when they announced WCS he was already in code S and didn't really got the chance to choose where to play... So he is forced to play KR when he wanted NA...

Players could play all kind of tournaments and suddenly players can only play 1 region and don't really get the chance to pick for season 1...

it really sucks... i'll be watching my fav players a lot less...

He can still play at Dreamhacks, MLGs, NASLs, and whatever else he wants to. Just not other WCS tournaments, which are new tournaments.
Refer to my post.
WonDeRSC
Profile Joined June 2011
United States234 Posts
April 11 2013 23:58 GMT
#38
Taeja practicing against ladder opponents...(but still winning)
Coach Park, help this man! :D
Calling out blizzard was pretty funny too, I hope blizzard steps it up as more and more top tier pro players voice their dislike for the new system.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 12 2013 00:51 GMT
#39
sounds like quite an eventful night haha
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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
April 12 2013 01:28 GMT
#40
I was very entertained by Fantasy vs True. Jesus.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
bloodyrooster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States15 Posts
April 12 2013 01:31 GMT
#41
TaeJa is the man
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
April 12 2013 01:58 GMT
#42
Well, if you're gonna give seeds out, and form a league and start it in season 2, wouldn't it make sense for the players to have a choice in picking where they want to compete in? Blizzard is collapsing entire league formats to get this done, so to make up for lost opportunities, they should let players pick.

From a business perspective though, Blizzard would want to lock the best players in their regions. Blizzard will leverage their status for more views and if they fall out, they fall out (oops). In the long run, players' importance become diminished (unlike the situation now, where players are valuable for their fans) by divorcing the fans from the players and making them fans of WCS instead. I'd be spending far less on live events, venue rental, prize money and get a whole load more competitors. Blizzard will have a monopoly on the game they created.

There are a few ways for players to combat this: a) through their independently established federations; b) through team sponsors who contribute a shed load to eSports; c) strike.

The consensus is that if the teams split, they will multiply, but that's not necessarily true. This is like doing a risky double expand with no defense.

Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
April 12 2013 02:02 GMT
#43
Q: What do you think of the WCS format in general?
A: It's great to the players on top, but it's very poor for players in the mid level of their teams or below. They can't go to other tournaments, and all they have is the GSL.

Kinda getting tired of people who keep saying this... you can play in 1 WCS region and as many other non-WCS tournaments as you like. That includes regular, non-WCS portion of MLG and IEM, as well as Dreamhack, NASL (if they still plan on putting out SC2 tournaments), and any other tournament that might come up, period.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 02:42:11
April 12 2013 02:41 GMT
#44
On April 12 2013 11:02 Soda-88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Q: What do you think of the WCS format in general?
A: It's great to the players on top, but it's very poor for players in the mid level of their teams or below. They can't go to other tournaments, and all they have is the GSL.

Kinda getting tired of people who keep saying this... you can play in 1 WCS region and as many other non-WCS tournaments as you like. That includes regular, non-WCS portion of MLG and IEM, as well as Dreamhack, NASL (if they still plan on putting out SC2 tournaments), and any other tournament that might come up, period.


Their teams wont send them..... they only send the top guys to big events in general unless it was already paid for intended for an A teamer and they can't go cause of GSL or MLG etc and they end up sending a Bteamer. The korean guys are basically screwed if they aren't A teamers cause their teams might not allow them to go to MLG WCS instead of goin thru code A etc
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
ynori
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia21 Posts
April 12 2013 04:33 GMT
#45
those losers match games... really got me thinking >>

I know they are pro players and all, but the ability for 1 race to be so utterly behind in number (3 or 4 to 1) and still managed to fight back on through racial mechanics and basic units just feels... wrong somehow.

even though I am a terran myself, but after seeing those games, I really think it is a bit unfair to have what we have.
Probes are OP >.>
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States869 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 05:03:52
April 12 2013 05:02 GMT
#46
Taeja has been my favorite player for a while. It's awesome that he was able to advance in first despite the long games with his bad wrists. I just wish he was happier about it; his interview kind of gave me the impression that he has a frustrated/defeatist attitude atm

I hope its just the pain putting him in a bad mood and he'll be more optimistic after his time off to heal.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
April 12 2013 05:21 GMT
#47
On April 12 2013 11:02 Soda-88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Q: What do you think of the WCS format in general?
A: It's great to the players on top, but it's very poor for players in the mid level of their teams or below. They can't go to other tournaments, and all they have is the GSL.

Kinda getting tired of people who keep saying this... you can play in 1 WCS region and as many other non-WCS tournaments as you like. That includes regular, non-WCS portion of MLG and IEM, as well as Dreamhack, NASL (if they still plan on putting out SC2 tournaments), and any other tournament that might come up, period.


It sounds great... IF there are going to be other tournaments around. What makes you think MLG will be interested in sinking more investment with less returns in other live events? Do you really think Carmac is going to continue the IEM tours after focusing on the league? The only exceptions are Dreamhack and NASL, who now fulfill a specific niche. The problem is now sponsors - who/what will they sponsor, especially now that WCS will have more reach? DH and NASL can't compete. Sponsors look at reach as one of their KPIs, so obviously the most ROI for sponsors will be the tournament with the most reach. Also what makes you think other brands will want to share publicity? Hence, IEM (Intel Extreme Masters) and ASUS ROG. These are not consistent tournaments, they are one offs. If the ROI isn't there, they will drop the event. In other words, we will see a decline of big, independent, event-based tournaments like DH and MLG. Less events = less participants = less player rotation = less viewers = less interest generated.

Of course this would be from a Korean gaming stand point. It could grow communities to develop their own players and teams, but only time will tell. But if the US is anything to go by...
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 12 2013 06:49 GMT
#48
Good interviews bar the balance whine, its ok we get mad at each other on a forum, but the pros should stick to their game!

Grats to Losira and Taeja!
"NO" -Has
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
April 12 2013 07:37 GMT
#49
Wow Taeja nice dump on Blizzard there.
The dark side is strong in this one.
The curse is real
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 12 2013 08:18 GMT
#50
i kinda dislike taeja after this interview..
kanghos was really good
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Nightwishone
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy391 Posts
April 12 2013 08:54 GMT
#51
TaeJa + Coach Park... Enough said.
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spena
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada116 Posts
April 12 2013 13:57 GMT
#52
teaja is out for blood.. blizzard blood
It's easier to be terrified by an enemy you admire.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
April 12 2013 15:37 GMT
#53
On April 12 2013 17:54 Nightwishone wrote:
TaeJa + Coach Park... Enough said.

TaeJa isn't staying at the team house, lives at his parents' far away. So I don't think he has much dealings with Coach Park. Which probably also explains his extended absence from Proleague.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Nightwishone
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy391 Posts
April 12 2013 20:44 GMT
#54
On April 13 2013 00:37 Proseat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 17:54 Nightwishone wrote:
TaeJa + Coach Park... Enough said.

TaeJa isn't staying at the team house, lives at his parents' far away. So I don't think he has much dealings with Coach Park. Which probably also explains his extended absence from Proleague.

Yeah ^^ I've read about it, I was just joking after those egtl victories and all the #makeamiracle Coach Park facts since TaeJa won even with his wrists problems.
Ah, and In case you didn't know, TaeJa doesn't live at his parents. He lives inside Coach Park's plan, like everyone else
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IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
April 12 2013 20:57 GMT
#55
Taejas opinion on blizz is pretty dumb imo. Also cant beliee fantasy didnt advance :c
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