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[Up/Down] Group C/D Preview, A/B Recap (S2)

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March 4th, 2013 22:48 GMT

PvZ

Up/Down Day 2 Preview



Up/Down Group C Preview
Maru, Fantasy, HerO, Nestea, Keen


Up/Down Group D Preview
B4, Noblesse, Labyrinth, Crazy, aLive, Avenge


Up/Downs on Liquipedia

Group A & B Recaps

by Stuchiu

Results from Live Reports Threads by Shellshock1122 - Group A - Group B
+ Show Spoiler [Group A Results] +
(P)YongHwa <Daybreak> (Z)Stephano
(P)Trust <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Lure
(P)YongHwa <Akilon Flats> (T)MarineKing
(P)Lure <Whirlwind> (Z)Stephano
(P)Trust <Icarus> (T)MarineKing
(P)Lure <Neo Planet S> (P)YongHwa
(Z)Stephano <Cloud Kingdom> (T)MarineKing
(P)Trust <Whirlwind> (P)YongHwa
(P)Lure <Icarus> (T)MarineKing
(P)Trust <Akilon Flats> (Z)Stephano



(T)MarineKing 3-0
(Z)Stephano 2-1
(P)Lure 1-2
(P)Trust 0-3
(P)YongHwa 0-0

YongHwa forfeited his matches to travel to IEM


(T)MarineKing and (Z)Stephano advance to Code S!

+ Show Spoiler [Group B Results] +
(Z)EffOrt <Akilon Flats> (P)Creator
(T)Ryung <Icarus> (Z)Shine
(P)Killer <Neo Planet S> (T)Center
(Z)EffOrt <Whirlwind> (T)Ryung
(P)Creator <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Killer
(Z)Shine <Cloud Kingdom> (T)Center
(Z)EffOrt <Daybreak> (P)Killer
(P)Creator <Icarus> (Z)Shine
(T)Ryung <Neo Planet S> (T)Center
(Z)EffOrt <Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)Shine
(P)Creator <Cloud Kingdom> (T)Center
(T)Ryung <Whirlwind> (P)Killer
(Z)EffOrt <Daybreak> (T)Center
(Z)Shine <Akilon Flats> (P)Killer
(P)Creator <Bel'Shir Vestige> (T)Ryung



(P)Creator 4-0
(Z)Shine 3-2*
(Z)EffOrt 3-2
(T)Ryung 2-2
(T)Center 2-3
(P)Killer 0-4

*Shine defeated EffOrt head to head and finishes 2nd in the group


(P)Creator and (Z)Shine advance to Code S!



(Mostly) As Expected
- (T)MKP and (Z)EG.Stephano.RC advance from Group A, (P)CreatorPrime advances in first from Group B


Going into this Up/Down groups, it was expected that MKP and Stephano would be the frontrunners to make it out of group A. This seemed even more likely when it was suddenly announced that Yonghwa had to forfeit his group due to sponsor obligations at CeBIT (the location of the IEM WC). For once, there were absolutely no wrenches thrown in the works, and things went exactly as expected.

The night started off with (Z)Stephano going up against (T)MKP in a match that would decide who would finish first and who would finish second. Stephano went for a roach baneling all-in that was countered by MKP’s hellion marauder strategy, after which MKP would just keep attacking and trade cost effectively until he won the war of attrition. MKP then took care of business as expected against the two Protoss underdogs in (P)CJ_Trust and (P)MVP.Lure, crushing them in his best match-up to finish 3 - 0 in he group.

After starting off badly against MKP, Stephano secured advancement to Code S with his ZvP. Stephano vs. Lure started off weirdly with Lure opting for a gate first build into stargate opener and Stephano answering with a 2 base double evo build. Lure went for the standard 3 base PvZ bust, but got stalled on the move out by a large ling counter attack. This gave time for Stephano to get Ultras out and with a large creep spread, found Lure completely out of position allowing Stephano the perfect surround and a chance to use neural parasites to cinch the engagement. His second PvZ against Trust was much more normal with just Trust going for a large 3 base attack that got stopped right in its tracks. After trading a few blows, Stephano’s upgrades and economy proved to be too much and he waltzed into Code S.

- (P)CreatorPrime crushes Group B while (Z)Samsung_Shine slips by in second place

As for the other big favorite on the night in (P)Creator, he was just a level above everyone he faced in group B. He beat (Z)CJ_EffOrt with a typical Creator 3 base timing after causing a silly amount of damage with his phoenix opening. Against (P)MVP.Killer, he easily stopped a proxy robo and counter-attacked for an easy win. Creator picked up his third win against (Z)Shine, decimating the Samsung Zerg's weird hydra-ling-corruptor build with just mass blink stalkers. Creator capped off a great night with a win against (T)Quantic.Center, using a well concealed fast third nexus to power a chargelot-archon-templar composition. Center eventually realized he was behind and did everything in his power to somehow multi-task his way back into the game, but Creator was already too far ahead and ran him over with a 2/2 timing attack. With four wins and no losses, Creator confirmed his spot in Code S and was excused from a meaningless game against (T)Ax.Ryung.

While one could easily mistake Samsung's (Z)Shine for MVP's (Z)Shine, the difference between them was quite evident in this Up/Down group. Where the noble self-sacrificing MVP_Shine would lose all of his own important matches, he would still win the meaningless ones to show the fans entertaining games while ensuring someone other than himself would make it into Code S. Samsung_Shine, on the other hand, actually did manage to win all of the games that mattered, coming through in clutch fashion to make it into his first Code S.

The most important win of the night for Shine came in his game against Effort, where he had a 1 - 1 record and effort was 2 - 0. Shine would get the order win with a 10 pool 10 gas bane bust against Effort’s hatch first gas then pool build. Effort tried everything in his power to stay in the game, but the disadvantage and damage was too much for him to make the comeback. That would tie them up at 2 - 1, and also give Shine a crucial head to head advantage down the line.

When it was time for Shine to play his final game of the night, he had a 2 - 2 record while effort stood ahead of him with 3 - 2. A win against Killer would tie them at 3 - 2, but Shine would be able to advance ahead on the head to head tiebreak rule. Shine did exactly that, clinching the deciding game against Killer with a blind double hatch before pool build. From there he would go mutas and contain Killer on 3 bases. By the time Killer could move out, Shine had 5 bases, 40 spines and a large infestor broodlord army. The writing was on the wall as Killer would stick to a ground based army while trying to take a 5th allowing Shine to smash him and take the game, as well as the a Code S spot.

- Other things that happened:

Artosis Curse: Has evolved to the point that Yonghwa can’t even participate in Up/Down matches.

MKP vs Lure: MKP actually scouted at an appropriate time and won because of it.

Shine vs. Creator: Shine couldn't help himself and went for 3 hatch hydra. However, Creator was no Bisu.

Killer: He really liked proxy robos and risky fast 3 base builds, but neither availed him in this Up/Down group as he went down 0 - 5.

Effort vs Ryung, Effort vs Center: Effort played some very stylish ZvT, focusing on his muta-ling-bane composition and taking the map control by using counter attacks, baneling mines and creep spread. He would avoid making infestors when at all possible, relying more on either ultras or ling/bane to get him to broodlords, at which point the game seemed all but decided in his favor.

Shine vs Center: The best game of the night. It was a fast paced TvZ on Cloud Kingdom that had both players constantly fighting for map control and position with multi-tasking and runbys. There would often be battles happening in 2 or 3 places along the map. Center would take a base down, while Shine would double expand in response and try to do an attack on Center’s always just threadbare defense of his third that was always just enough to push it back. Eventually, the constant aggression, multitasking and better defense would let Center take the game as Shine would get killed before he could get up to infestor broodlord.

Ryung’s overall experience:
- During his TvZ games, “IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA.” After his TvZ games upon realizing he would never have to play another WoL TvZ ever again, “*^-^* -▽- o(-"-)o s( ̄▽ ̄)v”


Group C Preview

by: Fionn

Games at 02:30 GMT (+00:00)
Games played in Wings of Liberty.


5. (T)MaruPrime

A little under a year ago, three young standouts broke into the GSL. Life, Creator and Maru were the prodigies in each of the three races, all showing tremendous ability at under 15 years of age and looking like the players who would lead the next generation of StarCraft progamers. Just like in traditional sports, where people start hyping up any kid who shows incredible talent for his or her age, the trio received considerable hype as potential future champions. For Life and Creator, they've already grown into this potential. Life is a multiple time GSL champion and has crushed foreign tournaments around the globe. Creator, while not as successful in the GSL, won WCS Korea and came close to taking the entire WCS tournament itself before losing to Parting in a PvP finals.

Maru? Well, you can't say he's a bust, but he is lagging behind his two child genius peers. Studying under MarineKing, Maru has shown brilliant micro and early game strategies, but his best accomplishment is still a Code S Ro16 performance that occurred months ago. He's still a player that you can't look over when you're placed against him, but isn't the type of player that you are most scared to go against in an Up and Down group. The biggest marks against him heading into this group is how much Heart of the Swarm he's been playing, as he was near the top of the Grandmaster rankings during the beta period.

If Maru can make it out of this group, he could be one of players to benefit the most from the switch to Heart of the Swarm. He is one step away from going from one of the lower level Code S players to being an actual threat to get into the knockout rounds, but he still has one more night of Wings before he can put it down forever.

4. (Z)LG-IM_NesTea

Code S Season 2 Players

Season 1 Top Eight
(P)PartinG, (P)MC, (T)INnoVation
(T)TaeJa, (Z)Symbol, (Z)Curious
(Z)Soulkey, (Z)RorO

Code A Winners (12)
(P)Squirtle, (P)sOs, (T)Bomber
(T)YoDa, (T)GuMiho, (T)Flash
(Z)DongRaeGu, (Z)Leenock, (Z)HyuN
(Z)LosirA, (Z)Life, (Z)TRUE

Up/Down Winners (4/10)
(T)MarineKing, (Z)Stephano, (P)Creator, (Z)Shine

Direct Seeds (0/2)
TBD
Speaking about players who might get an upgrade with the new expansion pack rolling in, you have the former God of Zerg, LG-IM's Nestea. The oldest progamer in the GSL by a wide, ever-growing margin, Nestea has watched the people around his age retire, join the army, go into coaching, start commentating, or move into other aspects of e-sports. Nestea has held strong, focusing solely on his career as a player. As one of the earliest innovators of Zerg, Nestea's second chance at being a champion might come in the form of Heart of the Swarm, putting him on even footing with the rest of GSL. New units, maps, and strategies can only be a good thing for Nestea, giving him a chance to get a leg up on the competition once again with new tricks and strategies.

The caveat to all of this is that he will first have to qualify for Code S in WoL, going up against four tough opponents that could prove too much for the former leader of Zerg. Most Zergs would have a mile wide grin on their face if they learned their group contained three Terrans, but not Nestea, holding slightly above a 50% winning percentage in the match-up. With only three wins in his last ten games against Terran, it's going to be a tall order for him to take out Maru, Keen and Fantasy to make it into the next round.

The biggest game of the group will be between him and Hero. If he can steal one or two games against his Terran opponents, he can then lean on his recently on-fire ZvP (9 - 1 in last ten games). Even with his current run against Protoss, Hero won't be the easiest opponent, the Liquid Protoss ace having always been known for his stellar play against Zerg. It would be nice for Nestea to prove his doubters and critics wrong for what seems like the hundredth time in his career, but his shaky record against Terran makes it hard to put much faith in him. Win or lose, this will be the last time we see Nestea playing Wings of Liberty, so it will be a night to remember.


3. (T)SKT_Fantasy

Maybe I am giving too much credit to Brood War Fantasy, but I still think Starcraft 2 Fantasy can be one of the biggest contenders in this group. With Maru already putting in most of his effort into Heart of the Swarm and Nestea's ZvT being shaky at best, Fantasy has a chance to do well in his group. His recent results haven't been good, and he's currently on an eight game losing streak in Proleague. He was able to beat Zenio in the first round of Code A by a 2 - 0 score, but this isn't January 2011 and beating Zenio won't make anyone think you're a Code S caliber player.

Dropping in the second stage of Code A to Samsung's Shine, Fantasy needs a big night in the Up and Downs to meet his rival and close friend Flash in Code S. Everything about Fantasy would make you believe that he would be a great player in SC2, but his skills simply haven't transitioned well from one game to another. While the Elephant in the Room article made us fear the Fantasy's of the world crossing over and destroying everyone, it is Roro, the sub .500 player known for busting Proleague fantasy teams, who has become KeSPA's best player and is in the finals of the last Wings of Liberty Code S.

With how much pressure KeSPA puts on players when it comes to Proleague, you would have to think that Fantasy hasn't touched much of HotS, mostly practicing for his Proleague games. This could give him an edge against a player like Maru who is topped the HotS GM ladder, but his recent results make you think that he might actually bomb out of this group altogether and lose to all four his opponents.


2. (T)MVP.KeeN

I'm just going to come out and say it: Keen's become stale. Remember the days when you would tune in specifically to see Keen bust out a new ceremony? The joy he would show every time he won a game, coming out with a new celebration to the glee of the Korean and foreign communities? How can anyone forget his epic rivalry with Nada, the two having a continuous veteran vs. rookie war that stretched out through many seasons, always ending up with the older Nada getting the better of the up-and-coming young lion?

It used to be fun to talk about Keen. No, he never beat Nada, but he was good enough to be seen as Nada's rival, something that any young player would love to be called. Now, everything that used to make Keen who he was is gone. No longer do you see him busting out new ceremonies. Nada, his half mentor and half rival, has gone on to the World of Tanks, which I don't think is anywhere near the world of Code S. Don't get me wrong, Keen is still a very capable player and has at times looked like someone who might very well get into the top eight of Code S, but he's lost the charisma and spark that made him special.

I am using this part of this article as a plea to Keen. Please, Keen, bring back the ceremonies. We miss them. We miss your goofy attitude. We miss your wacky antics. Yes, I know that being serious and winning games should be your main focus, but do not forget what made you a player that everyone loved. Come back to us, Fun Keen. We miss you.


1. (P)Liquid`HerO

It's not the Christmas season and Hero isn't on fire, but he still is good enough to win this group. Everyone in this group has had consistency issues of late, but with Proleague on the mind, Hero should be mainly practicing Wings of Liberty. His Proleague stint hasn't been the best, holding a 10-9 record, but is still one of the better players on his EG-TL team, which sits in last place of the standings. With EG-TL down in the dumps in Proleague, a good performance in Up and Downs and a spot in the first season of HotS Code S could be a good mood lifter for HerO.

With CJ's herO looking like the stronger hero lately, winning an MLG Dallas spot and going 6 - 0 in round 3, it's time for capitalized HerO to get back on track after a couple of poor tournaments and games. His HotS skill doesn't look to be at its best, and he got rolled over by Polt in the MLG Dallas qualifier matches. But that wasn't unexpected with Polt being one of the better HotS players in beta, and Hero most likely only had a few hours of the game under his belt due to GSL and PL obligations.

Hero was never able to become a GSL champion in Wings, a 0 - 3 loss to Squirtle in the semi-finals being the furthest he ever got. People will say he might never become a GSL champion with his nervouness and confident issues, but don't count Hero quite yet. With a new expansion upon us, it's a new beginning for one of the most exciting Protoss players in the world.

Group D Preview

by: stuchiu

Games at 09:10 GMT (+00:00)


6. (T)SKT_LabyRinth

Every once in awhile in GSL, there comes 'that' guy. That one guy who realizes he can’t play straight up games so he goes for all-in after all-in, either dying a bitbybit or becoming the villain. In Labyrinth’s case he was able to take out Bisu in the last round of the qualifiers and then eliminate LG-IM's First from Code A with 1-1-1’s, before finally falling to HyuN after a failed proxy 2-Rax (he promised he was going to show macro games in his interviews). While the Up/Down groups are always chaotic and tend to favor aggressive plays, every player in this group should completely know what to expect from this Terran.


5. (T)MVP.Noblesse

MVP's third string Terran behind Dream and Keen projects to finish around 5th in this group. Having said that, his actual skill is about tied with the players I have placed at 3rd and 4th, but I gave Noblesse the disadvantage here as his best matchup is TvP and there’s only 1 Protoss here. His TvZ is fairly weak in comparison and with two zergs, this group will be much harder for Noblesse to get through. But this is a chance for Noblesse. With Dream out of the GSL, Noblesse will get a chance to outdo him and perhaps move up Team MVP's internal Terran rankings. For Noblesse it will all come down to his TvT, specifically his match against Alive. If he can take out Alive, and either one of the Zergs he has a longshot to take a spot. If not, then he’ll be relegated to Code A for next season.


4. (Z)KT_Crazy

Within the GSL, there’s not much to say about Crazy other than that he played strong late game PvZ against Vampire, and that he got jumped by in ZvZ by KeSPA 8th Team's TRUE. Outside of GSL, he’s been used by KT to play against either Zergs or Terrans with a win rate of around 50 percent. While his TvZ should be good enough to beat both Labyrinth and Noblesse, Alive will be problematic for him. Especially when you consider in a bo1, aLive is very likely to pull out the 2 rax on him. His chances against BBoongBBoong are a coin flip and while I’d give Crazy slightly better odds in a long game against Avenge, Avenge can just take it early with a Soul push. Crazy is pretty much in the middle of the pack here, but anything goes in Up/Down groups.


3. (P)ST_Avenge

Avenge is the newly crowned king of ST Protoss players. While this would have been a great title to have had 2-3 months ago, now it’s more of a reminder that the two best Protosses in the lineup have left - Parting for SKT and Squirtle for LG-IM. While Avenge has won the title of best Protoss on ST by default with all other candidates stuck in Code B hell.

Avenge has already shown he has some chops when it comes to PvT by taking out Baby in the first round 2-0. On top of that, his historically weaker PvP won’t hurt him here with no Protosses around. And being at the top of the ST Protoss line, I full expect Avenge to be able to execute a reasonably good Soul Train on Bboongbboong or Crazy as a get out of jail card. While not an out and out favorite, Avenge is a definite threat to everyone in the group.


2. (T)aLive

After ignominiously losing in the first round of the last GSL, Alive is back to try to make it back into Code S just in time for the HotS release, and finally gain the recognition he wants. This is a pretty decent group for Alive. The Terrans are numerous, it’s only bo1’s with Zergs, and his TvP should be more than enough to take out Avenge. The biggest hurdles here will be Crazy and Bboongbboong, but if he can 2 rax one of them successfully, I can’t see Alive going below the #2 spot.


1. (Z)Azubu.BBoongBBoong

The pizza zerg’s stock has recently gone up. Many players seem to do well whenever they change teams. And in BBoongBBoong’s case this will be his second team change in 2 months, going from Prime to MJ and from MJ to Azubu. B4 has reaped the team change blessing twice now going from Code B to Code S and then using the second one to finally break his way into ro16, playing some of the most solid games of his life. While Code A matches showed B4 couldn't topple MajOr's anointed messiah in TRUE, he should still be the favorite in this group. His ZvZ is his only real weakness, but with both him and Crazy losing to true, it's not like we can say one is significantly better than the other.. On top of that most of the Terrans here are weak to Zerg putting B4 in the perfect position to take this group decisively.

Writers: Fionn and stuchiu.
Graphics: Meko, shiroiusagi
Editor: Waxangel.
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VKCA
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Canada391 Posts
March 04 2013 22:56 GMT
#2
gogo b4!!!!
Fuell
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Netherlands3111 Posts
March 04 2013 22:57 GMT
#3
Expecting KeeN/NesTea and Crazy/B4 to do well.
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
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United States30730 Posts
March 04 2013 23:03 GMT
#4
Hate to say it, but it's looking rather grim for Nestea D;

Too much Terran. He should beat HerO though.

and after going through the liquidbets, I wouldn't be too surprised if CrazyH makes it out of group D
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
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Canada7089 Posts
March 04 2013 23:07 GMT
#5
Its time for B-money! He is taking himself to code S again!
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Last Edited: 2013-03-04 23:09:55
March 04 2013 23:08 GMT
#6
I LOVE YOU STUCHIU

for putting Avenge that high.

He practically introduced Korea to the immortal-sentry allin. Back then, when Avenge used it, the casters would call it "a 7 gate 1/1 immortal push".

Go Avenge!

edit: B4 vs Avenge rematch? In the 2012 Season 2 Up/Downs, it was the deciding game—the winner would advance to Code S. Sick game:

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March 04 2013 23:09 GMT
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FANTA!!!!!!!!!!!!
HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Philippines3613 Posts
March 04 2013 23:22 GMT
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We'll see how labyrinth's 1-1-1's do.
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March 04 2013 23:23 GMT
#9
psch, maru ftw
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United States1639 Posts
March 04 2013 23:34 GMT
#10
I really want to Hero to pull through, but I think it's gonna be Fantasy/Keen.
As for Group D, I'll agree with the prediction above. B4 and aLive should be able to secure it.
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March 04 2013 23:38 GMT
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Go HerO! Make it back to Code S!
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United States254 Posts
March 04 2013 23:47 GMT
#12
Alive B4 i agree with but I say Keen Nestea for group C, maybe Maru.
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United States97276 Posts
March 05 2013 00:00 GMT
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Go Maru and B4!
I can't make the threads tonight Lab reports and test. Here are the premade OPs
Group C: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339146&currentpage=19#373
Group D: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339146&currentpage=19#374
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
March 05 2013 00:17 GMT
#14
I agree. I also miss Fun Keen =(

Agree with the ratings for the most part as well, though I expect group D is harder to predict. B4 and aLive aren't standouts compared to the rest so it could be anyones.

Group C I agree has Hero and Keen in front, but it could also be anyones since it's sorta packed.
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
March 05 2013 00:22 GMT
#15
Avenge fighting!!!!
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 05 2013 00:26 GMT
#16

Artosis Curse: Has evolved to the point that Yonghwa can’t even participate in Up/Down matches.


Oh my god... I remember back when he called the first NASL, and he was just on a roll then... oh how the mighty have fallen xD
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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
March 05 2013 00:55 GMT
#17
Yeah, you definitely put too much faith in fantasy, but otherwise I agree. My heart wants to disagree with your nestea prediction, but I know I shouldn't...
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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
March 05 2013 01:13 GMT
#18
Kinda hoping on Alive/Nestea, but we'll see.
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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 05 2013 01:22 GMT
#19
While I really want HerO to win his group, he's been playing extremely badly, and I really don't see Fanta losing a TvT to Keen or Maru. I think it will be Fanta winning the group and #2 totally up for grabs.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
March 05 2013 01:30 GMT
#20
Hmm. Small note, but I Maru wasn't really hailed as one of the leaders of the next generation even though he was super young. Life and Creator for sure, but it was Taeja that was talked about as the terran, not Maru.

Also, I don't think it's fair to say that Fantasy's skills haven't transitioned well at all. He was 13-5 in Proleague (I think) before his 8 game slump, which is pretty sick. I think it's safe to say that Fantasy is a very good player, and is just in a slump, not that his skills didn't transition well.
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