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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 22 2013 06:35 GMT
#101
On February 22 2013 15:29 mhael wrote:
complaining incoming:
Those games made me sick last night. I am so frustrated with the lack of variation Protoss gets in WoL. Its purely a turtle game and hiding behind a wall. I wish the Cybercore had a zealot speed upgrade so zergs would have to wall sometimes and prepare for a speedlot rush, or run by and get one of their hatches blown up. Or 20 phoenix coming in and harrassing you at every corner of your base and you have to run hydras back and forth on creep (like blink stalkers vs muta).

There is no variation. Toss has minor variations within a few builds, and don't go late game because some micro with a LOT of spines a few infestors and brood lords = instant win.

Anyhow - I am so happy to see WoL go - it could have been an amazing game, and I am so sad to see how horrible of a follow up we got to the greatest game ever: SC Brood War.
Seems like such simple fixes such as a zealot speed upgrade at cyber core, a infestor split of fungal growth and the root part of the spell into 2 seperate spells, and the removal of the infestor energy upgrade would make the infestor a unit used in conjunction with armies like the High Templar is; rather than being an army all alone (basically.) I also do not agree with Brood Lords - broodlings that create a wall of free units keeping units like HT out of position or impossible to flee.

All these things were on exhibit and I just watched my TV in frustration as I saw dopey cheesy builds that zerg can utilize that no other race even has a similar option - take the games and now we will possibly have a all zerg round of 4 and a zvz finals.

anyhow curious did play really well and so did symbol - but I thought innovation played better and got the short end of blizzards stick (except when he didn't scout the gold base.)

Please don't ban me.


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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
February 22 2013 06:39 GMT
#102
Go TaeJa! I believe!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 22 2013 06:43 GMT
#103
I hope MC can win. Maybe taeja can win because a lot of the repeat matches have the opposite winner
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Gihi
Profile Joined September 2011
384 Posts
February 22 2013 06:52 GMT
#104
Come on MC... I hope he gets his stuff together for this one!
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
February 22 2013 06:59 GMT
#105
w/e Zerg vs MC or w/e Zerg vs Taeja for the GRAND FINAL

Please!!!!!!!!
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Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
February 22 2013 07:01 GMT
#106
I bet against roro.
DeathDyingDoomKiller
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada91 Posts
February 22 2013 07:15 GMT
#107
Soulkey's weaknesses: Artosis predicted him to win. LOL
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BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
February 22 2013 07:15 GMT
#108
On February 22 2013 15:29 mhael wrote:
complaining incoming:
Those games made me sick last night. I am so frustrated with the lack of variation Protoss gets in WoL. Its purely a turtle game and hiding behind a wall. I wish the Cybercore had a zealot speed upgrade so zergs would have to wall sometimes and prepare for a speedlot rush, or run by and get one of their hatches blown up. Or 20 phoenix coming in and harrassing you at every corner of your base and you have to run hydras back and forth on creep (like blink stalkers vs muta).

There is no variation. Toss has minor variations within a few builds, and don't go late game because some micro with a LOT of spines a few infestors and brood lords = instant win.

Anyhow - I am so happy to see WoL go - it could have been an amazing game, and I am so sad to see how horrible of a follow up we got to the greatest game ever: SC Brood War.
Seems like such simple fixes such as a zealot speed upgrade at cyber core, a infestor split of fungal growth and the root part of the spell into 2 seperate spells, and the removal of the infestor energy upgrade would make the infestor a unit used in conjunction with armies like the High Templar is; rather than being an army all alone (basically.) I also do not agree with Brood Lords - broodlings that create a wall of free units keeping units like HT out of position or impossible to flee.

All these things were on exhibit and I just watched my TV in frustration as I saw dopey cheesy builds that zerg can utilize that no other race even has a similar option - take the games and now we will possibly have a all zerg round of 4 and a zvz finals.

anyhow curious did play really well and so did symbol - but I thought innovation played better and got the short end of blizzards stick (except when he didn't scout the gold base.)

Please don't ban me.


Well, yeah your going to get banned for that last line (not martyring so to speak, but the mods don't tolerate it anyway).

Besides that, if you just watch one night of GSL in isolation, especially one where Zerg wins, it might look like Protoss has that problem. If you'd watched the previous two nights of Code A, you'd have seen two separate Toss' doing very powerful Phoenix/Zealot attacks. Might be just a metagame thing, but adding zealot speed to this comp would be crazy.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
February 22 2013 07:27 GMT
#109
Man, I really, really want Taeja and MC to get through. Good luck!!! Fighting~
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
February 22 2013 07:46 GMT
#110
Curious healed my soul last night. I needed a Startale player to beat him and Life failed to do that last week. Glad Curious came through.
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BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
February 22 2013 07:54 GMT
#111
"Time to RorOwn"? Is that really the best title you could come up with? -_-
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 22 2013 07:58 GMT
#112
BossToss! Hoping MC knocks out Roro! I'm not sure Taeja has it in him to win Soulkey tbh. Last time they met, Soulkey won and he has a great form and seems like he understands the game. Going to be an uphill battle for Taeja, definitely the underdog imo.
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laerteis
Profile Joined August 2012
United States78 Posts
February 22 2013 08:11 GMT
#113
I'm steadily becoming a pretty big fan of Zealously's write-ups. Well done once again, m8.

The GSL ends for me tonight if 2 more dirty Z get through. I never thought I'd miss the days of gomTvT, but all these patchling fratricides make me want to turn on the GDM LCS, so help me.
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DeCoder
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland236 Posts
February 22 2013 08:12 GMT
#114
Subtle anti-zerg bias showing in the Symbol vs Innovation recap.
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
February 22 2013 08:13 GMT
#115
On February 22 2013 09:23 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 09:03 SidianTheBard wrote:
I'm hoping for Taeja and MC to get through. I swear if we get another final 4 all zerg GSL........

I do actually agree with the predictions though. I think Soulkey and MC will take it, although yes, I'm rooting for Taeja.


I do not believe there has ever been an all zerg Ro4, ever.


Not in GSL but some other events. There has been at least two of them :p. I think HSC V was one of them.

I don't want to have 4 zergs ro4 but i would really like to both roro and soulkey to advance :S
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 09:05:42
February 22 2013 08:42 GMT
#116
My reaction after watching the unexpected outcome of game 5 b/w Symbol and Innovation was: what? What??? But, OK, I thought, we always knew Symbol was a solid player and his zvt has always been a strength.

But then, Curious 3-0'd Parting. And I wondered: has the Earth been tilted on its axis? It's always been the case that SC2 results can be volatile, but if Curious can 3-0 Parting in a GSL quarterfinal, anything goes. Literally, anything. Coupled with the night's other upset, it is clear that from now on that, like quantum physics, any result is possible. For example, Curious could become GSL champion. Or Symbol. Or a foreigner. Or a foreigner could plough through a lineup of the best SC2 players in the world (who are they, exactly, now?), let's just say for old time's sake: Life, Parting, DRG, Leenock, Innovation, and while we’re being sentimental, let’s add Mvp, MC, and Nestea – on their way to royal roading the GSL. That's how much sense last night's results make.

Watching Curious play last night was like watching kid Goku suddenly transform into a Super Saiyan and one-punch his adversary in half. The question is where has this Curious been his whole career? Curious has remained a solid middle-tier zerg for well over a year, with a pronounced tendency of underperforming in high-pressure situations (namely code S round 2's.) Until this point, this GSL has looked no different. Curious looked solid but unremarkable through his first two rounds. There was little to indicate other than that Curious had strayed past his boundaries through immense good fortune and Parting would have to be the one to play the gatekeeper and send him back to his rightful place in the ro16.

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Curious's hair changes from gold to black when he transforms into Super Saiyan Curious


Parting, the reigning World Champion and GSL finalist. A player who gained his fame for slapping down zergs left and right during a bleak year for non-zerg races where pvz was running at 35-40% before Blizzard had to nerf infestors in 3 different ways. Who owned their head-to-head matchup 3-0/6-2. Who was considered one of the best players not to win a GSL yet. Parting wasn't just a favourite to beat Curious, he was a favourite to take down the whole score.

This is Starcraft 2. We know upsets can happen. It would’ve been one thing for Curious to counterpunch, play good defense, sneak a win or two with some cute builds, force a game 5 and then steal the series with a weird all-in. For example, like Symbol. It’s quite another to totally, completely eviscerate your opponent in 3 straight games. It’s as if Stanislaw Wawrinkas suddenly showed up to a Wimbledon final and then destroyed Roger Federer in his prime in straight sets. It just makes no sense. Curious just levelled up to power level 1000000 from nothing. He had Parting on the defense from the first minute of the first game when he was threatening with early lings. Parting didn’t go for the soul train in any of his games because he was too preoccupied with trying to survive the whole time.

Who is this Curious who’s suddenly appeared in the code S semifinals because he’s not the Curious we know from this dimension. He’s from a distant, curious alien planet and it looks like he’s been training at 10000x gravity. And he looks very scary.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4866 Posts
February 22 2013 08:43 GMT
#117
Although he had a streak of losses, where even Bisu managed to beat him, he recently took down Stats and Rain to show that he isn't without hope in the match-up.


It still makes me sad that this sentence is even true

But rooting for MC, I like to see good toss players win.
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Ryncol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States980 Posts
February 22 2013 09:02 GMT
#118
MC/Taeja PLEASE
Culture
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada488 Posts
February 22 2013 10:37 GMT
#119
Will soulkey's crazy scenario come true?
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
February 22 2013 10:40 GMT
#120
RorO is the person you do not want to bet against. Ever.


But no mention of his anti-team destroying ways?
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