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[GSL] Up/Down Matches: Group A (2013 S1)

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January 5th, 2013 22:20 GMT

Up/Down


Up/Down Group A Preview


GSL Up/Down Matches brackets and results at Liquipedia

Up/Down: Group A Preview

by: Fionn

The GSL is back! The world's toughest, most prestigious StarCraft II league kicks off the new year with the no-holds barred death match otherwise known as the Up and Downs, where the twelve final Code S spots will be given to the worthy. This is the line between Code S and Code A, stardom and anonymity, heaven and purgatory. We've never seen a player take a game off in the Up/Downs while they still have a Code S spot on the line, and it routinely gives us some of the most nerve-wracking, emotionally charged games in StarCraft II. What a great way to start the season.


Group A: (T)Flash, (Z)Jaedong, (P)MC, (T)YoDa, (P)YongHwa, (P)Vampire
Top two advance to Code S, third place goes to wild card group.

6: (P)MVP.Vampire

The MVP Protoss isn't in this position because he is necessarily bad, but more because this group is stacked from top to bottom. Having taken over the role that Ensnare, Virus and Suhosin passed on of being that guy in Code S that continually makes it into Code S while people think he isn't good enough, Vampire has proven to be a solid, but nothing special Protoss the past couple of months. He got dispatched quite easily in last season's Ro32, and he will need to show a lot of improvement if he has any hope of even taking a wild card spot from this group. However, you have to remember that even Virus put together one great, MC-impeaching, Nestea-slaying Ro16 run that season he where everything was clicking, which goes to show that the skill gap at this level is narrower than you might think.

5. (Z)EG.Jaedong.RC
2013 Code S players

'12 Season 5 Top Eight (8)
(P)Creator, (Z)HyuN, (T)Bogus, (Z)Soulkey, (T)MarineKing, (T)Ryung, (Z)Leenock
(Z)Sniper

Qualified through Code A (11)
(T)Noblesse, (P)PartinG, (Z)BBoongBBoong (T)Hack, (T)BaBy, (T)Mvp, (Z)Life
(Z)Curious, (Z)RorO, (T)KeeN, (T)GuMiho
(T)Polt (forfeited)

Code S Seed (1)
(Z)Stephano

12 Spots Remaining
Up/Down winners (10), Up/Down wild cards (2)


Putting Jaedong in the second to last spot is sure to anger fangirls and fanboys, but the Brood War legend just hasn't been that great since making his transition to Starcraft 2. The only match-up that he is Code S level in currently, ZvZ, will be of absolutely no help to him in this group, seeing as he'll be facing three Protoss and two Terran. His ZvT is hovering around 40%, which is already pretty bad, but his ZvP is even worse, as he's lost his nine last games against Protoss in Korea and having an abysmal 34% in the match-up.

There is no doubt that Jaedong could turn it on and steamroll this group, but name value alone can't make him one of the favorites in this group. Even before the switch from Brood War to Starcraft 2 occurred, Jaedong was lagging behind players like Soulkey, Zero, and other Zergs who were all showing better play. Jaedong is now in a team house with strong Protoss players and he can try to fix his ZvP with the help of JYP and Hero. But with the quality of players he'll have to face in this group, a crash session with his Protoss housemates might not be enough, especially with Proleague to prepare for as well. We might see a lot of sad Korean girls walking out of the GOM studios before the night is done.

4. (T)LG-IM_YoDa

Once called the best player on LG-IM by Mvp, we're still waiting on Yoda's huge breakout season. He made it to the Ro16 a season ago, but couldn't get any farther after being paired up against Hyun and Hack. He is a solid player all around and is particularly strong in TvT, so that should give him an edge over one of the better players of the group, Flash, who has shown the much trouble in the mirror match-up. Yoda has proven through last season's Ro16 appearance that he shouldn't be at the bottom of the pack, but with three straight series losses and not the most consistent track record before last season, we can't say for sure he'll be able to beat the three monsters ahead of him.

3. (P)SK_MC

Truth be told, MC hasn't been all that great recently. He has been one of the best players in Starcraft 2 since the game released, but his foreign results haven't been very impressive of late, and he hasn't done much in the GSL since getting steamrolled by now Code B player Seed in the third finals of 2012. If we're looking at simply recent results, Yoda should be ahead of MC, but the president-in-exile has a long history of getting it done when people are counting him out. When he seems as his absolute weakest and most figured out, he will put on a performance that makes you feel stupid for betting against a guy who has won the most money in the game's history. At the moment he seems completely figured out, is not in good condition, and should finish outside the top three, but every single time he's been in this position before, he's snapped out of it and destroyed his opposition.

2. (T)KT_Flash

Flash and Jaedong might have been rivals in Brood War, but they've had different starts to their SC2 careers. Jaedong has had a somewhat lackluster beginning, but Flash has done amazingly at the two foreign events he attended, been a rock for KT in Proleague, and has just played better overall than Jaedong. He still has a weak spot in the match-up of TvT, only having a 40% win rate, but that won't be the death of him with only one other Terran in the group. His TvZ and especially his TvP have been great of late, and he'll have three Protoss that he can face off against on the night.

He still isn't one of the best players in the world, but we can confidently say that he is at least a mid-tier Code S player with the results he has shown across the board. His TvT will need to improve a lot for him to be a contender for a Code S championship any time soon, but with the track record Flash has, we wouldn't put it past him to excel in the mirror match-up before too long. Flash might not be the young fifteen year old prodigy he was five years ago, but at the age of 20, The Man Known as God still has lots of years to master this new game.

1. (P)LG-IM_YongHwa

I'm pretty sure Artosis already has his speech ready when Yonghwa wins the first Code S title of 2013, but he still needs to get through this group first to even make it into the dance. Nobody is going to question Yonghwa's talent, but he still is known as the guy who choked a thousand times in Code B and was never able to make it into Code A. In any other Code A bracket, he more than likely would have made it into Code S directly, but Yonghwa got paired up with Life in the third stage and witnessed how scary he can be when he's at the top of his game (Yonghwa didn't even try to play Life straight-up, cheesing, and losing, two straight games). Now dropped into the Up and Down groups because of his loss to the Startale ace, Yonghwa will get to show us if he can handle the Up and Downs in his first go.

Strong in all three match-ups, Yonghwa will only have to worry about the unpredictably of PvP. His PvZ, besides his match against Life, has been top notch of late, and he has a 65% win rate against Terran that will be tough for Yoda and Flash to handle. There are a lot of factors that could drop Yonghwa out of the top three in this group, but he really should make it into Code S by the time the week is done, barring a huge mental block. There are a lot of big names in this group, but Yonghwa might be the one that ends the night stealing the headlines from the proven stars.

Writers: Fionn.
Graphics: Meko, hawaiianpig
Editor: Waxangel.
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Rob-Zero
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Germany459 Posts
January 05 2013 22:29 GMT
#2
Go Flash!
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Finland753 Posts
January 05 2013 22:32 GMT
#3
Jaedong hwaiting
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Canada384 Posts
January 05 2013 22:35 GMT
#4
Bonjwa Jaedong ftw
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Guam5609 Posts
January 05 2013 22:35 GMT
#5
Flash and Jaedong to Code S!
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Walnuts
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United States770 Posts
January 05 2013 22:37 GMT
#6
Its pretty amazing, I agree completely with everything here.
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United States40 Posts
January 05 2013 22:43 GMT
#7
Really hoping for MC and Flash to make it through.
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
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Last Edited: 2013-01-05 22:45:54
January 05 2013 22:44 GMT
#8
its not really the "twelve last code S spots" if they have the wildcard groups, right?

Also, jaedong fighting
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Hollandrock
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
January 05 2013 22:45 GMT
#9
Flash definitely going through there... Can't wait for his game with Jaedong!

Other qualifiers though ... Yonghwa will almost certainly choke again... Will beat only jaedong...
Past that not sure.

Nice write up though!
Cipher32
Profile Joined April 2011
United States52 Posts
January 05 2013 22:47 GMT
#10
I agree with this, I expect Flash and Yonghwa to advance rather easily. both MC and JD are on the brink but just aren't there yet.
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
January 05 2013 22:47 GMT
#11
As desirable a Leessang victory to Code S is, it's unreasonable. Flash I see getting out almost guaranteed, second place probably Yonghwa, if not then it'd be YoDa or MC.
hmm... let's think about it
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
January 05 2013 22:47 GMT
#12
Please, MC, give us this day our daily ceremony, and show us why you are the fucking baws.
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United States1049 Posts
January 05 2013 22:48 GMT
#13
On January 06 2013 07:47 Cipher32 wrote:
I agree with this, I expect Flash and Yonghwa to advance rather easily. both MC and JD are on the brink but just aren't there yet.


JD, okay, but with MC, what do you mean by "yet"? The guy has been one of the best SC2 players of all time for a while now. It's not that he's not there yet, he's just not there right now maybe.
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United States4605 Posts
January 05 2013 22:50 GMT
#14
I'm betting on YoDa getting out in second place, but otherwise I agree with everything. Granted I haven't seen a Flash v P since he played an incredibly lackluster macro game vs NaNi, but I'll give him faith.
Unlike everyone here who seems to be huffing paint thinking JaeDong is a favorite, Flash has genuinely impressed me with his progress, so I'm not 100% locked on my YoDa bet
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Iraq16955 Posts
January 05 2013 22:54 GMT
#15
With all the Terran balance complaints, it took the 2013 Code S Players box to remind me that protoss is way worse off. I guess Protoss whining, and Protoss being underpowered is so common that we tend to overlook it.
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
January 05 2013 22:56 GMT
#16
Jaedong, ftw!!

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33399 Posts
January 05 2013 22:57 GMT
#17
On January 06 2013 07:44 partydude89 wrote:
its not really the "twelve last code S spots" if they have the wildcard groups, right?

Also, jaedong fighting


as a pure technicality, I think the wild cards are part of the Up/Downs
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WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
January 05 2013 23:07 GMT
#18
I've missed the GSL so much... Finally!

Really hard to predict. Every single one has a decent shot at advancing imo, just a matter of luck, preparation and momentum.
Snow948
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany83 Posts
January 05 2013 23:07 GMT
#19
Hoping for YongHwa that he show the big names now that he can play this game pretty gooooooood
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
January 05 2013 23:08 GMT
#20
Well 5 groups give us 10 Code S players then the wild card group gives us 2 more.

So if you finish 3rd in Group A-E you get to try again in a 5 person group.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 05 2013 23:12 GMT
#21
GO MC!! I believe in our President!
Long live the Boss Toss!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 05 2013 23:19 GMT
#22
the thing I'm most interested to see in this group is how good or bad MC is right now ( compared to his peers )
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United States33399 Posts
January 05 2013 23:22 GMT
#23
On January 06 2013 08:19 Dodgin wrote:
the thing I'm most interested to see in this group is how good or bad MC is right now ( compared to his peers )


he just signed another contract with SK

is that good or bad?!?!
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Profile Joined August 2012
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January 05 2013 23:24 GMT
#24
gogogo flash and JD
LimitSEA
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Australia9580 Posts
January 05 2013 23:35 GMT
#25
I hate this group. I want 5/6 of these guys in Code S, but only 3 have the possibility of making it with the Wildcard group. TT

Gonna have to cheer for my LG-IM homies. Gogo YoDa and YongHwa!
Long live the King of Wings
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 00:24:44
January 05 2013 23:48 GMT
#26
I don't feel worthy enough to watch and yet life would never be the same if I missed it. I suppose I will enjoy it and worry about being worthy later.

Edit: The bit about MC is so true, I love it when people realize how many times people have doubted him and he has proven them wrong. I just wish I could be there both for the games and to console all the sad JD/Flash fangirls.
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Latvia166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 00:03:51
January 06 2013 00:02 GMT
#27
On January 06 2013 07:20 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
This is the line between Code S and Code A, stardom and anonymity


If Flash or JD were to lose, they should change their IDs to anonymous or something else, so no-one knows who they are
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Netherlands7031 Posts
January 06 2013 00:11 GMT
#28
Jaedong's ranking is a joke. MC said in an interview he lost like 30 practice games in a row to Jaedong a month ago. And Jaedong is quite likely favored against Yoda.
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January 06 2013 00:14 GMT
#29
On January 06 2013 09:11 Grumbels wrote:
Jaedong's ranking is a joke. MC said in an interview he lost like 30 practice games in a row to Jaedong a month ago. And Jaedong is quite likely favored against Yoda.


You beat me to this post...Jaedong, flash and Yonghwa should be top 3, with flash being number 1 imo.
Dodgin
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Canada39254 Posts
January 06 2013 00:20 GMT
#30
It's really funny to read these posts about flash and then you go to his TLPD page and he's like 57th in ELO and a 54% winrate.

Fantasy is 22nd in ELO with a 70% winrate, 81% in TvT while Flash's TvT winrate is 42%. Yet Fantasy gets 1/4 of the hype.
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Ireland628 Posts
January 06 2013 00:26 GMT
#31
On January 06 2013 09:20 Dodgin wrote:
It's really funny to read these posts about flash and then you go to his TLPD page and he's like 57th in ELO and a 54% winrate.

Fantasy is 22nd in ELO with a 70% winrate, 81% in TvT while Flash's TvT winrate is 42%. Yet Fantasy gets 1/4 of the hype.


Fantasy also beat time the last time they met (if not 2 times).
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Australia54784 Posts
January 06 2013 00:26 GMT
#32
hoping for flash jaedong! won't mind mc
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United States33399 Posts
January 06 2013 00:27 GMT
#33
On January 06 2013 09:20 Dodgin wrote:
It's really funny to read these posts about flash and then you go to his TLPD page and he's like 57th in ELO and a 54% winrate.

Fantasy is 22nd in ELO with a 70% winrate, 81% in TvT while Flash's TvT winrate is 42%. Yet Fantasy gets 1/4 of the hype.


fuck off, SKT scum
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Canada16217 Posts
January 06 2013 00:28 GMT
#34
Nice write up.
Yonghwa and Flash will make it through most likely, but you should NEVER count out MC.
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StarVe
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Germany13591 Posts
January 06 2013 00:32 GMT
#35
Artosis and Fionn together, Yonghwa is fucked.
Dodgin
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Canada39254 Posts
January 06 2013 00:36 GMT
#36
On January 06 2013 09:27 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 09:20 Dodgin wrote:
It's really funny to read these posts about flash and then you go to his TLPD page and he's like 57th in ELO and a 54% winrate.

Fantasy is 22nd in ELO with a 70% winrate, 81% in TvT while Flash's TvT winrate is 42%. Yet Fantasy gets 1/4 of the hype.


fuck off, SKT scum




even his own team mate Stats is better than him

poor flash
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Canada11 Posts
January 06 2013 00:42 GMT
#37
Flash v Jaedong. So hyped
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January 06 2013 00:45 GMT
#38
On January 06 2013 08:22 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 08:19 Dodgin wrote:
the thing I'm most interested to see in this group is how good or bad MC is right now ( compared to his peers )


he just signed another contract with SK

is that good or bad?!?!

Good for MC, bad for SK.
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Norway86 Posts
January 06 2013 00:45 GMT
#39
Looking forward to this so much! Gogo Flash!
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United States97276 Posts
January 06 2013 00:47 GMT
#40
Odd. I predicted the group exactly the same. I guess I got all my liquibets wrong
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
January 06 2013 01:10 GMT
#41
I disagree with having JD so low purely because he possibly got the best map draw of any of the players in any of the up/down groups to the point where I expect him to advance.
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January 06 2013 01:14 GMT
#42
On January 06 2013 09:11 Grumbels wrote:
Jaedong's ranking is a joke. MC said in an interview he lost like 30 practice games in a row to Jaedong a month ago. And Jaedong is quite likely favored against Yoda.


I watched JD's stream a few times and his PvZ is terrible, for every 10 immortal-sentry all in, he held 0.5
And Yoda beat DRG at IPL (with cheese). Wouldn't be surprised to see JD falling for the same thing here
...
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
January 06 2013 01:18 GMT
#43
MC and flash fighting!
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January 06 2013 01:18 GMT
#44
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United States33399 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 01:23:17
January 06 2013 01:22 GMT
#45
On January 06 2013 10:14 Ace Frehley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 09:11 Grumbels wrote:
Jaedong's ranking is a joke. MC said in an interview he lost like 30 practice games in a row to Jaedong a month ago. And Jaedong is quite likely favored against Yoda.


I watched JD's stream a few times and his PvZ is terrible, for every 10 immortal-sentry all in, he held 0.5
And Yoda beat DRG at IPL (with cheese). Wouldn't be surprised to see JD falling for the same thing here


you're calling 2 fact no-medivac timings cheese?

even all-in is more appropriate there
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United States249 Posts
January 06 2013 01:23 GMT
#46
i believe in jaedong!
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United States4259 Posts
January 06 2013 01:36 GMT
#47
The last time YongHwa was in a group stage he got smacked around by foreigners... MC and Flash will advance IMO.
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January 06 2013 01:42 GMT
#48
i really agree that JD isn't the most amazing player right now, but he is still pretty decent. i would place him one or two spots higher. We will see how he does though
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
January 06 2013 01:46 GMT
#49
I don't think MC will make it out. Best he'll do is probably 3rd. I also feel like Yonghwa is still overrated. If I'm proven wrong, I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Germany13591 Posts
January 06 2013 01:52 GMT
#50
On January 06 2013 10:36 Elite_ wrote:
The last time YongHwa was in a group stage he got smacked around by foreigners... MC and Flash will advance IMO.

Jaedong is no Lowely, Yonghwa will be fine.

I had Yonghwa 1st, Yoda 2nd and Flash 3rd, but that depends on who wins the TvT. If Flash can beat Yoda, I think he'll advance.
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Canada11044 Posts
January 06 2013 02:05 GMT
#51
Flash or bust.
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Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 02:07:13
January 06 2013 02:06 GMT
#52
Jaedong would have been 5-2 in proleague had he not missed the Nydus worm. I'm quite confident he'll do better than fifth place. The protoss players in this group are not so strong except for Yonghwa. (and he might be overrated)
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
January 06 2013 02:15 GMT
#53
Heart:
MC 1st, YongHwa 2nd, YoDa 3rd

Head:
YongHwa 1st, YoDa 2nd, Flash 3rd
A mind sharper than any blade.
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
January 06 2013 02:17 GMT
#54
On January 06 2013 10:22 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 10:14 Ace Frehley wrote:
On January 06 2013 09:11 Grumbels wrote:
Jaedong's ranking is a joke. MC said in an interview he lost like 30 practice games in a row to Jaedong a month ago. And Jaedong is quite likely favored against Yoda.


I watched JD's stream a few times and his PvZ is terrible, for every 10 immortal-sentry all in, he held 0.5
And Yoda beat DRG at IPL (with cheese). Wouldn't be surprised to see JD falling for the same thing here


you're calling 2 fact no-medivac timings cheese?

even all-in is more appropriate there


Actually, I didn't watch the games, but people were saying it was 2rax, so I believed, since Yoda is (supposedly) not as good as DRG lol
...
BobbyAwesome
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada21 Posts
January 06 2013 02:33 GMT
#55
I really hope MC comes into this in classic form. It would be sick to see him come in and show everyone their place. :D

Either way, I am expecting some high level Starcraft from the ultimate legends of Brood War, the highest earning SC2 player , and some high level mainstays; what more could one want?
Without me, it's just aweso.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
January 06 2013 02:33 GMT
#56
Wow, just realized how few Toss players could potentially be in Code S this upcoming season.
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
January 06 2013 02:35 GMT
#57
Oh poor Yonghwa. The double Artosis + Fionn curse means you will be Code B very soon.
markrevival
Profile Joined January 2012
United States222 Posts
January 06 2013 02:52 GMT
#58
my body is not ready. i'm so sleep but i can't miss this x.x. we're about to witness history
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
January 06 2013 02:55 GMT
#59
I hope MC can impress and move on. I think Flash'll probably get out, too.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
January 06 2013 03:01 GMT
#60
i cant wait to say flash .. the code s terran.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
January 06 2013 03:05 GMT
#61
LET'S GO FLASH AND JD!!!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
DoctorFoxer
Profile Joined August 2012
United States191 Posts
January 06 2013 03:13 GMT
#62
이영호 이제동 선수 화이팅!
When behind, Dark Shrine.
Heavenfallz
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia73 Posts
January 06 2013 03:15 GMT
#63
Woots!! go Flash and Jaedong!!!
"Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories" - Sun Tzu
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 06 2013 03:52 GMT
#64
1-Yonghwa
2-Flash
3-Jaedong
4-YoDa
5-MC
6-Vampire

would be my order^^
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mhael
Profile Joined January 2012
United States102 Posts
January 06 2013 04:26 GMT
#65
Flash and JD please!!

can't wait!
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
January 06 2013 05:09 GMT
#66
MC, Flash, and JD, I wish...
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
dots-chan
Profile Joined July 2011
23 Posts
January 06 2013 06:17 GMT
#67
Flash just all-killed EG-TL... No.1 going by momentum right now....
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 06 2013 06:24 GMT
#68
On January 06 2013 09:26 paddyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 09:20 Dodgin wrote:
It's really funny to read these posts about flash and then you go to his TLPD page and he's like 57th in ELO and a 54% winrate.

Fantasy is 22nd in ELO with a 70% winrate, 81% in TvT while Flash's TvT winrate is 42%. Yet Fantasy gets 1/4 of the hype.


Fantasy also beat time the last time they met (if not 2 times).

damn, Fantasy is so good he can beat time itself :O


really hoping for MC to show everybody up. but Yonghwa and Yoda are also awesome. and i'd be fine with Flash advancing if it wasn't for everybody jizzing on their monitors every time he wins a game.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Raiquer
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden98 Posts
January 06 2013 06:27 GMT
#69
Flash fighting! Pull through the Up and Downs with a 5-0 like you all killed EG-TL!
Slayers_Boxer, Mvp, Flash, Fantasy, Nestea, Jinro, Naniwa, Thorzain, Jaedong, DongRaeGu, White-ra, Sase, Haypro, Nada, Tastosis, Day[9], IM and KT Fighting!
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
January 06 2013 07:36 GMT
#70
After seeing Flash in Pro League today, I think he might be Number 1 in this group
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
January 06 2013 08:16 GMT
#71
Flash will go into this with confidence.

GO JAEDONG and MC
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
January 06 2013 08:42 GMT
#72
What are these wildcard spots?
The heart's eternal vow
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 06 2013 08:42 GMT
#73
YongHwa and Yoda will finally release their potentials this season in the GSL. it will be beautiful. no code s for the rest of the group, you can take that to the bank!
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 06 2013 08:45 GMT
#74
On January 06 2013 17:42 PVJ wrote:
What are these wildcard spots?


The third place finishers in all 5 groups will go to a final up/down group where the last two Code S spots are on the line.

Instead of GOM doing Code S seeds this season they are letting in two additional players from the up/downs.
LaO-Tyros_Reffa
Profile Joined May 2005
Netherlands50 Posts
January 06 2013 09:01 GMT
#75
Nice preview as always Fionn! <3
Rooting for Flash - and hoping he picks Life in his GSL group later for grudge-match :D
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12204 Posts
January 06 2013 09:30 GMT
#76
Yup, 2 protosses in code S, and half TL wants Jaedong and Flash through.

Unsurprised I am.
No will to live, no wish to die
Gimmeurladderpoints
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany372 Posts
January 06 2013 10:13 GMT
#77
1 - Flash
2 - MC
3 - Yoda
4 - Yongwha
5 - JD
6 - Vampire
~Ryung~Genius~Bomber~Nestea~Liquid_Jinro~Sage~San~jjakji~Boxer~Fantasy~Polt~
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
January 06 2013 10:50 GMT
#78
On January 06 2013 09:20 Dodgin wrote:
It's really funny to read these posts about flash and then you go to his TLPD page and he's like 57th in ELO and a 54% winrate.

Fantasy is 22nd in ELO with a 70% winrate, 81% in TvT while Flash's TvT winrate is 42%. Yet Fantasy gets 1/4 of the hype.

It's because Flash was God. Everybody knows that, but what people don't know is that in the last year or so of Broodwar Fantasy (whom I've always thought has more raw talent) finally became the God-Killer. Unfortunately he was not able to break through and win an OSL, so he (rightly) will never be considered one of the Broodwar greats, despite being the best player at the end.

So then you come to Starcraft 2 which has a lot of people who didn't really follow broodwar. They know mostly about Flash, the game's last Bonjwa and Jaedong who would have been the last Zerg bonjwa if it weren't for Flash.

Fantasy is my favourite player (and the captain of my fantasy Pro League side), but considering his best period was after the release of Starcraft 2, it's not surprising that most people don't know too much about him. He's going to win the 1st GSL of the year though .
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
January 06 2013 11:00 GMT
#79
On January 06 2013 17:45 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 17:42 PVJ wrote:
What are these wildcard spots?


The third place finishers in all 5 groups will go to a final up/down group where the last two Code S spots are on the line.

Instead of GOM doing Code S seeds this season they are letting in two additional players from the up/downs.


Wow

that sounds super crazy. Thanks.
The heart's eternal vow
kuriz
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark141 Posts
January 06 2013 11:06 GMT
#80
Not only will you see sad Korean girls leaving the studio, I will be absolutely horrible to be around at school if my dear Jaedong doesn't do well. This is a very interesting group I can't wait to see it
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
January 06 2013 11:14 GMT
#81
moar proofreading please ;D

other than that nice write up.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
January 06 2013 13:51 GMT
#82
hmm, Yonghwa was not the best call^^
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Sorathez
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia209 Posts
January 06 2013 13:55 GMT
#83
Fionn, you cursed YongHwa
There's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep trying till you run out of cake.
Repomies
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland73 Posts
January 06 2013 14:08 GMT
#84
My vote goes for President MC. Show us your celebrations
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33399 Posts
January 06 2013 14:14 GMT
#85
Yonghwa with the choke, sadly
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 14:21:23
January 06 2013 14:18 GMT
#86
Dat Artosionn curse... Not only this thread, but also this:


Also, this:
trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
January 06 2013 14:28 GMT
#87
solid editor picks.
~
MysterySC
Profile Joined October 2012
Andorra109 Posts
January 06 2013 14:49 GMT
#88
LOL, mid-tier code S? wouldn't that mean he actually had been in code S? Also foreign tournaments.... didn't Alicia get two seconds at foreign tournaments... We all know he is not code S. I thought places like TL would have less fanboy bandwagon BS than this...
<3 Hyvaa
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 15:01:10
January 06 2013 14:54 GMT
#89
On January 06 2013 23:49 MysterySC wrote:
LOL, mid-tier code S? wouldn't that mean he actually had been in code S? Also foreign tournaments.... didn't Alicia get two seconds at foreign tournaments... We all know he is not code S. I thought places like TL would have less fanboy bandwagon BS than this...


Alicia was Code S... in 2011... Also some Koreans get less nervous at foreign tournaments because they couldn't care less about their results there compared to how important the GSL is in Korea.

Also, Flash tied for 2nd place in the exact same way last season... tying with two players, but losing to them. Therefore placing 4th overall. It's just a matter of time before he gets Code S... Or with terrible bracket luck, gets knocked out of Code A.
AndaGalant
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany42 Posts
January 06 2013 15:03 GMT
#90
JD beaten Flash!! WUHUUU
Why didnt he played yesterday for EG-TL to stop Flashs all-kill??? so sad for EGTL

Also, I am impressed with YoDa, he seems to fail in code S, but Code A and U/Ds hes a machine ;D
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
January 06 2013 15:08 GMT
#91
weeel that prediction was... almost accurate ^^

no but seriously I understand your reasoning I was completely baffled when I tuned in and saw jd > flash and yoda at 3-0 o.O

MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
January 06 2013 15:08 GMT
#92
Worst day for predictions ever :
- YongHwa completely failed to live to the expectations
- Flash won his TvT, lost his some of his other matchups
- MC is back in decent shape
- YoDa is more than decent
Gashnack
Profile Joined June 2011
3 Posts
January 06 2013 15:41 GMT
#93
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?
MC, Y U NO LEARN ENGLISH?
Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
January 06 2013 15:56 GMT
#94
On January 06 2013 07:45 Hollandrock wrote:
Flash definitely going through there... Can't wait for his game with Jaedong!

Other qualifiers though ... Yonghwa will almost certainly choke again... Will beat only jaedong...
Past that not sure.

Nice write up though!



Nice prediction bro.....real expert....=)

Also TL:

Yonghwa without taking a map
Flash lost to JD but WON against the over terran

But never mind, mostly TL predictions are very close to the results...

Im so happy for MC guys...
MMA II DeMuslim II MKP II JD II IdrA II HuK II Leenock II Stephano II
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
January 06 2013 16:06 GMT
#95
so sad YongHwa get well soon
GraphicsInsidiA | StarCraft 2 Manager for Team eLevate | Graphic Designer for Red Bull eSports & HTC | @iamjasonpun
zumpy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States122 Posts
January 06 2013 17:31 GMT
#96
haha YongHwa choke and no body in this thread roots for Yoda
looks like flash needs more training, elephants not there yet
well won
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
January 06 2013 17:34 GMT
#97
im putting my money on a miracle with jeadong on 1, and flash on 2, yoda on 3. Dunno why, guess because it's flash and jeadong
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
January 06 2013 17:45 GMT
#98
On January 07 2013 02:34 govie wrote:
im putting my money on a miracle with jeadong on 1, and flash on 2, yoda on 3. Dunno why, guess because it's flash and jeadong


Did you realise that the group was already played out? :D
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
January 06 2013 18:11 GMT
#99
MC!!!
And JD > Flash :D
Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
January 06 2013 18:25 GMT
#100
wow, never underestimate power of Fionn and Artosis curse, especially both at the same time
Dengar_
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland1 Post
January 06 2013 19:08 GMT
#101
Yea JD 3rd place! Flash Code A!
ShinsoEU
Profile Joined April 2012
Bulgaria92 Posts
January 06 2013 20:00 GMT
#102
Why did MC tweet yonghwa has sick eyes? Does he have some health issues or something? :/
Only the strong survive, I got the scars to prove it.
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
January 06 2013 20:31 GMT
#103
Yongwah sick

it looks like
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
Kitaen
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria466 Posts
January 06 2013 22:54 GMT
#104
close call fionn! :D
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
January 07 2013 00:44 GMT
#105
Just watched the matches.
LOL @ Fionn's predictions .
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
thesums
Profile Joined December 2010
Taiwan257 Posts
January 07 2013 01:30 GMT
#106
man, why are they allowed to seed someone? stephano better get top 8 at least, i hate seeds
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 07 2013 03:27 GMT
#107
--- Nuked ---
Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
January 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#108
On January 07 2013 10:30 thesums wrote:
man, why are they allowed to seed someone? stephano better get top 8 at least, i hate seeds



Because seeds allow people, not constantly living in Korea, to participate on Code S.
You cannot play hole code A season while living in NA or EU.

Anonther important point is the EU and NA communitiy.
Same like Proleague: Foreigners (or Foreigner-Teams) provide Korean tournaments with foreign viewers...


BtW: GOGO Stephano
MMA II DeMuslim II MKP II JD II IdrA II HuK II Leenock II Stephano II
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
January 07 2013 17:26 GMT
#109
:D JD!!!

Can't wait to see him [hopefully] dominate that wild-card group!
dailybargainshop840
Profile Joined January 2013
United States5 Posts
January 08 2013 12:24 GMT
#110
Nice one, I like it very much. Go ahead.
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