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WCS Finals - Ro32 Preview Part Two - Page 6

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hyperdemented
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria372 Posts
November 16 2012 21:06 GMT
#101
On November 17 2012 02:11 maracuja123 wrote:
Just a quick fact that I know 100% of people here dont know, but it is still worth mentioning.

Levin is actually REALLY good, and get this: he`s almost 31 years old and he`s a full time doctor and barely plays SC2. He beat Tunico in WCS South America, who`s only 19 years old and despite him going to college, at that time he used to play almost full time SC2.

Levin has been playing online games for ages, and he was quite successful at Warcraft III, he managed to beat players like Madfrog and suho (top night elf player from China).

Im almost sure he will not go through his group, but he`s a legend around here. Of all WCS players qualified, he`s the only one who does not play SC2 profissionaly.

Folha de Sao Paulo a famous newspaper here in Brazil interviewed him and the title says "Dr. Gamer" ( http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/fsp/tec/77509-doutor-gamer.shtml ).

Anyway, I`m just saying these things because it`s really worth mentioning it. A nice curiosity

ps: On the link it says Levin has been engaged to his girlfriend for 15 years hahaha... I dont know how the hell you can delay the marriage so much hahaha


i actually remember levin from wc3, didnt know he was 31 and a full time doctor haha, thx for the info, nice to know these fun facts
oRacLeGosu
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway151 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 21:40:17
November 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#102
On November 17 2012 05:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:56 oRacLeGosu wrote:
I don't know these days, but I remember being very impressed by Scarlett's debut. I was not getting the feeling of pure boring "pseudo-foreigner-over-defensive-i can only macro brainlessly and try to disguise it as conservative absorbtion-brood war style" over it at first glance.


That's because that style hadn't truly proliferated to the extent it has 6 months later.

Now that's all ANY foreign zerg ever does most of the time, but back then it didn't carry the same kind of stigma.

Plus I feel like a lot of people get free passes on HOW they win when they are unknown rising stars, but when they become known players with fan followings they get added pressure on them to produce games with particular style and flair.


Well..personally I feel I have seen this style since day 1 of Sc2, but I agree it has become even more like this with broodlord/infestor. This style has had a stigma ever since BW..a style for people who can't control the direction of games with agressive skill and game sense, trying to abuse impatience and somehow thinking it takes skill..then again, the style was also used by skilled players, but in a more counter-aggro-fun to watch manner. SC2 hasn't evolved enough where players can destroy this easily yet, but I look forward to the day you have to micro the crap out of your units even defensively to even have a chance against top tier players. It just bores the hell out of me to watch this style when it is not coupled with skill-based stuff..when even intel is not needed. The best players never use it because you almost always give away control to the other player by doing this straight forward..it's really a survival game for lesser players done on it's own.

I agree on the "HOW" they win thing..it is easy to get impressed by newcommers and make it more than it is.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 16 2012 21:55 GMT
#103
On November 17 2012 03:31 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 02:55 Promethelax wrote:
On November 17 2012 01:27 Dexington wrote:
I will never understand this Scarlett hype. Outside of beating NA players she's hardly done anything. I expect her to go 0-2 out of the group.


2nd place RSL (4-3 to Leenock), AK Dignitas, IPL's world vs korea qualifier. She also beat both Bomber and HerO in the last MLG to tie with Suppy as the fourth highest placed non-korean. And all of that is just in the last month.


She was the only player in RSL to play on her own server, the only players on Dignitas worth beating are JR and Bischu now, whoop-de-do she beat Catz and Suppy so far.

She went 2-2 at MLG. She lost to Daisy, who is essentially a European Protoss. Hero can't beat Zergs lately. The Bomber games were impressive though.


So how does that line up against your statement that she hasn't done anything but beat NA players? She is significantly better than most if not all of the other NA players.
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MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 22:03:05
November 16 2012 22:02 GMT
#104
Predicitons seemed nice unitl i read. Nerchio < Scarlett. When Nerchio has a strong MU it´s ZvZ .He will go through Scarlett like a knife trough butter 100%.
markrevival
Profile Joined January 2012
United States222 Posts
November 16 2012 22:03 GMT
#105
Creator Fighting! I am so incredibly hyped for this :D
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
November 16 2012 22:10 GMT
#106
On November 17 2012 02:13 Corsica wrote:
I dont see how Scarlett can beat best foreign ZvZ player sry, last group should be Nerchio/Creator.


Scarlett has probably practiced with Nerchio alot way before this tournament.. They're teammates it will come down to who can meta game the other better and who can out play each other. You obviously haven't seen Scarlett's ZvZ in team leagues or even just 1v1 tournaments... Her ZvZ is actually pretty good especially if she can take out Code A koreans in that MU...
LuckShot
Profile Joined July 2011
United States4 Posts
November 16 2012 22:22 GMT
#107
I would be so stoked to see idra get out of this group and have some awesome games, id love to see stephano vs idra, its every foreign zergs wet dream lol
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 22:33:47
November 16 2012 22:31 GMT
#108
On November 17 2012 01:27 Dexington wrote:
I will never understand this Scarlett hype. Outside of beating NA players she's hardly done anything. I expect her to go 0-2 out of the group.


lol clearly this guy didnt even read the preview, where the writer puts justification for this pick ( a recent win over Nerchio and Vortix, the two best European zergs outside of stephano). Scarletts ZvZ is top notch, anyone who cant see that is crazy.


I cant wait to watch Groups E and H, but they really need rank the groups instead of random draw. We have 2 champions in 1 group from 2 of the 3 major areas.

Sadly this tournament has to go a very specific way to hold my interest because of grouping. An all korean round of 8 would be a snoozer.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
November 16 2012 22:43 GMT
#109
If Scarlett > Nerchio then why would Acer choose Nerchio over Scarlett as ace player in team matches? Seems like NA bias :/

Other than that great read.
EmNGiantNome
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States126 Posts
November 16 2012 22:53 GMT
#110
IDRA WILL DESTROY HIS GROUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IDRA HWAITING!!!!!!!!!!! <3 the Gracken!
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 16 2012 22:53 GMT
#111
On November 17 2012 07:31 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 01:27 Dexington wrote:
I will never understand this Scarlett hype. Outside of beating NA players she's hardly done anything. I expect her to go 0-2 out of the group.


lol clearly this guy didnt even read the preview, where the writer puts justification for this pick ( a recent win over Nerchio and Vortix, the two best European zergs outside of stephano). Scarletts ZvZ is top notch, anyone who cant see that is crazy.


I cant wait to watch Groups E and H, but they really need rank the groups instead of random draw. We have 2 champions in 1 group from 2 of the 3 major areas.

Sadly this tournament has to go a very specific way to hold my interest because of grouping. An all korean round of 8 would be a snoozer.


There are only 7 Koreans in this whole thing. RorO, Curious, both herO and HerO, Creator, Rain and PartinG.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
November 16 2012 23:06 GMT
#112
C'mon Curious! Let's break your curse this time around!
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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
November 16 2012 23:23 GMT
#113
Vortix looks like idra.
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Fatam
Profile Joined June 2012
1986 Posts
November 16 2012 23:33 GMT
#114
Scarlett and Nerchio are pretty damn close in skill, I think it's reasonable for the article to read the way it does. You could easily make the case either way. They both have 1 major tournament win, both have taken out some pretty great players over the past few months, but both lose to some players they probably shouldn't.
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
November 16 2012 23:44 GMT
#115
Stephano beating Roro in ZvZ is nothing more than a foreigner pipe dream.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 23:51:12
November 16 2012 23:46 GMT
#116
On November 17 2012 07:31 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 01:27 Dexington wrote:
I will never understand this Scarlett hype. Outside of beating NA players she's hardly done anything. I expect her to go 0-2 out of the group.


lol clearly this guy didnt even read the preview, where the writer puts justification for this pick ( a recent win over Nerchio and Vortix, the two best European zergs outside of stephano). Scarletts ZvZ is top notch, anyone who cant see that is crazy.


I cant wait to watch Groups E and H, but they really need rank the groups instead of random draw. We have 2 champions in 1 group from 2 of the 3 major areas.

Sadly this tournament has to go a very specific way to hold my interest because of grouping. An all korean round of 8 would be a snoozer.

Yeah, 2 foreigners are guaranteed in the RO8, B and G are all foreigner groups and their 1st and 2nd places play each other in RO16. If all goes well, we'll have two Spanish players in the Round of 8.
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
November 17 2012 00:12 GMT
#117
I think Juan will do better than anyone expects him to.
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
November 17 2012 00:31 GMT
#118
Nerchio will win against Scarlett if they face each other.
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
November 17 2012 00:43 GMT
#119
On November 17 2012 07:53 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 07:31 Darpa wrote:
On November 17 2012 01:27 Dexington wrote:
I will never understand this Scarlett hype. Outside of beating NA players she's hardly done anything. I expect her to go 0-2 out of the group.


lol clearly this guy didnt even read the preview, where the writer puts justification for this pick ( a recent win over Nerchio and Vortix, the two best European zergs outside of stephano). Scarletts ZvZ is top notch, anyone who cant see that is crazy.


I cant wait to watch Groups E and H, but they really need rank the groups instead of random draw. We have 2 champions in 1 group from 2 of the 3 major areas.

Sadly this tournament has to go a very specific way to hold my interest because of grouping. An all korean round of 8 would be a snoozer.


There are only 7 Koreans in this whole thing. RorO, Curious, both herO and HerO, Creator, Rain and PartinG.


Oh my bad, I thought the article mentioned a round of 8 all korean possibility.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 17 2012 00:58 GMT
#120
I have the faith in HerO! not the kespa hero, but the liquid hero, even though the other hero will advance too... gah it is all just so confusing. Anyway I'm going with HerO/Stephano, Curious/CJhero, Insur/Lucifron, and Creator/Scarlett. Probably my only real upset pick is for Insur to advance over lowely.
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