• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:09
CET 11:09
KST 19:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon! RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Learning my new SC2 hotkey…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2220 users

WCS Finals - Ro32 Preview Part Two - Page 4

Forum Index > News
136 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
November 16 2012 17:48 GMT
#61
On November 17 2012 02:11 maracuja123 wrote:
Just a quick fact that I know 100% of people here dont know, but it is still worth mentioning.

Levin is actually REALLY good, and get this: he`s almost 31 years old and he`s a full time doctor and barely plays SC2. He beat Tunico in WCS South America, who`s only 19 years old and despite him going to college, at that time he used to play almost full time SC2.

Levin has been playing online games for ages, and he was quite successful at Warcraft III, he managed to beat players like Madfrog and suho (top night elf player from China).

Im almost sure he will not go through his group, but he`s a legend around here. Of all WCS players qualified, he`s the only one who does not play SC2 profissionaly.

Folha de Sao Paulo a famous newspaper here in Brazil interviewed him and the title says "Dr. Gamer" ( http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/fsp/tec/77509-doutor-gamer.shtml ).

Anyway, I`m just saying these things because it`s really worth mentioning it. A nice curiosity

ps: On the link it says Levin has been engaged to his girlfriend for 15 years hahaha... I dont know how the hell you can delay the marriage so much hahaha


That IS interesting stuff. Adds some flavor to his story for sure.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 16 2012 17:55 GMT
#62
On November 17 2012 01:27 Dexington wrote:
I will never understand this Scarlett hype. Outside of beating NA players she's hardly done anything. I expect her to go 0-2 out of the group.


2nd place RSL (4-3 to Leenock), AK Dignitas, IPL's world vs korea qualifier. She also beat both Bomber and HerO in the last MLG to tie with Suppy as the fourth highest placed non-korean. And all of that is just in the last month.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18511 Posts
November 16 2012 17:57 GMT
#63
wth who was the crazy insane person who created Group E???
Cornix
Profile Joined June 2011
United States220 Posts
November 16 2012 18:03 GMT
#64
On November 17 2012 02:57 sharkie wrote:
wth who was the crazy insane person who created Group E???


Blame day[9], he was using his psychic powers on the draws all night. Seriously go watch the video.
iS.SunnY, writer extraordinaire. Miami CSL!
KookyMonster
Profile Joined January 2012
United States311 Posts
November 16 2012 18:04 GMT
#65
Great write up! It matched my bracket perfectly!
Paper is Imba. Scissors is fine. -Rock
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
November 16 2012 18:04 GMT
#66
I actually am rooting for CJ_Hero ... i think he has a good shot at getting out of his group.
tomaszot
Profile Joined November 2012
Poland3 Posts
November 16 2012 18:06 GMT
#67
Agreed. IDRA is not capable to compete with the best these days. He hasn't shown anything since last year?
I'LL BE BACK
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
November 16 2012 18:06 GMT
#68
On November 17 2012 02:57 sharkie wrote:
wth who was the crazy insane person who created Group E???

no seeding + random drawings
Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
November 16 2012 18:11 GMT
#69
"Winners Match: Stephano > RorO"

Did Stephano improve his ZvZ so much?
<3 Alexis Eusebio, Lee Shin Hyung, Choi Seong Hun, Joo Sung Wook, Jang Min Chul, Kim Yoo Jin, Lee Young Ho, Lee Shin Hyung, Yun Young Seo, Kim Joon Ho, Jeong Jong Hyeon, Eo Yoon Su, Johan Lucchesi, Ilyes Satouri
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 18:17:39
November 16 2012 18:15 GMT
#70
On November 17 2012 02:11 maracuja123 wrote:
Just a quick fact that I know 100% of people here dont know, but it is still worth mentioning.

Levin is actually REALLY good, and get this: he`s almost 31 years old and he`s a full time doctor and barely plays SC2. He beat Tunico in WCS South America, who`s only 19 years old and despite him going to college, at that time he used to play almost full time SC2.

Levin has been playing online games for ages, and he was quite successful at Warcraft III, he managed to beat players like Madfrog and suho (top night elf player from China).

Im almost sure he will not go through his group, but he`s a legend around here. Of all WCS players qualified, he`s the only one who does not play SC2 profissionaly.

Folha de Sao Paulo a famous newspaper here in Brazil interviewed him and the title says "Dr. Gamer" ( http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/fsp/tec/77509-doutor-gamer.shtml ).

Anyway, I`m just saying these things because it`s really worth mentioning it. A nice curiosity

ps: On the link it says Levin has been engaged to his girlfriend for 15 years hahaha... I dont know how the hell you can delay the marriage so much hahaha


yeah I remember him in WC3. He had a very decent Nightelf vs Nightelf matchup and played in the WC3L (most important teamleague outside Korea) under the Jungleteam (jNg) along with Skyward etc

And its true he could ocassionally beat top players in Europe in a Nightelf vs Nightelf

Too bad hes too old to play serious now, hope another Brazilian star rises soon in the world of SC2
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
Negatiive
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada207 Posts
November 16 2012 18:15 GMT
#71
Major will get out of his group... i believe T_T
ROOT4ROOT <3
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
November 16 2012 18:18 GMT
#72
Stephano, HerO, Curious, TitaN, LucifroN, Insur, Creator, and Nerchio. Agreeing with all the top picks and disagreeing in all the 2nd picks. I'm a Bomber fan; I've learned to have faith
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
ChriseC
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany440 Posts
November 16 2012 18:19 GMT
#73
IDRAAAAAAAAAAAA GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
philip697
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom123 Posts
November 16 2012 18:19 GMT
#74
TL shows that this starts in 7 hours 42 mins, which would make it 2am UK time... that doesn't seem very clever! Is that definitely right?
Titan999
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark67 Posts
November 16 2012 18:20 GMT
#75
awesome write up, but Scarlett will not beat Nerchio i a ZvZ... just no.
Incontrol: “A part of the question was for you to figure out what I meant…..”
Ayoeme
Profile Joined November 2011
Latvia59 Posts
November 16 2012 18:22 GMT
#76
On November 17 2012 03:11 Madars wrote:
"Winners Match: Stephano > RorO"

Did Stephano improve his ZvZ so much?


It's weird, while he has significantly improved his ZvZ, it still isn't the best in the world. Not by a long shot. Since ZvZ is in a way a clash of styles, there's many great ZvZers who might outright lose to stephano but some "not as good" players who could beat him in ZvZ.

Example: In WCS Europe, when he first improved his ZvZ a little, vortix, who then was a good ZvZer and even took out nerchio i think, couldn't lay a finger on Stephano, no matter what he did. That happened to a few other players afterwards as well. SortOf, who has a slow ZvZ style, couldn't touch him as well in ESWC. Though it isn't the best tournament to compare, neither korean zergs nor stephanos A game were present, at the same time johnnyrecco gave him a run for his money, while his zvz is worse than sortof's.

I think this translates to higher caliber players as well. Since Stephano hasn't played him before (not any kespa players in tournaments), and his ZvZ is pretty style dependant, while better since the last time we saw it vs koreans, I can't predict the winner.
For some things, reason is not necessary.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
November 16 2012 18:25 GMT
#77
On November 17 2012 03:19 philip697 wrote:
TL shows that this starts in 7 hours 42 mins, which would make it 2am UK time... that doesn't seem very clever! Is that definitely right?


Yes,,,,,,unfortunatly.
pigtheman
Profile Joined January 2009
United States333 Posts
November 16 2012 18:28 GMT
#78
INSUR TAKES IT ALL CALLING IT NOW :D
*rawr* d(^_^d)
philip697
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom123 Posts
November 16 2012 18:28 GMT
#79
On November 17 2012 03:25 DaCruise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 03:19 philip697 wrote:
TL shows that this starts in 7 hours 42 mins, which would make it 2am UK time... that doesn't seem very clever! Is that definitely right?


Yes,,,,,,unfortunatly.

Oh ok Well I've been up about 30 hours as it is now, as I didn't go to sleep after night shift.... so I gue4ss I'd better get some sleep if I want to watch any of this!
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 16 2012 18:29 GMT
#80
Amazing read as usual, i am actually looking forward to Stephano playing as the foreigner hope from these groups... All hopes on Stephano and Grubby!!!
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
09:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #17
CranKy Ducklings91
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .125
Livibee 85
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 5381
Sea 1878
Horang2 1726
GuemChi 1414
Jaedong 1026
FanTaSy 851
Zeus 286
Pusan 269
Stork 268
Hyun 170
[ Show more ]
PianO 138
Killer 130
JulyZerg 70
Backho 58
Sharp 54
soO 48
ToSsGirL 36
Barracks 28
Light 28
Aegong 26
ZerO 20
ggaemo 18
Sacsri 17
Noble 14
SilentControl 6
zelot 5
Dota 2
XcaliburYe231
League of Legends
JimRising 427
Reynor152
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1085
shoxiejesuss572
Other Games
summit1g20288
ceh9523
Happy274
Sick189
Mew2King160
ZerO(Twitch)4
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 33
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1628
• HappyZerGling203
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
1h 52m
Wardi Open
5h 52m
Replay Cast
12h 52m
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
PiGosaur Monday
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
BSL 21
5 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
BSL 21
6 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.