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WCS Finals - Ro32 Preview Part Two - Page 4

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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
November 16 2012 17:48 GMT
#61
On November 17 2012 02:11 maracuja123 wrote:
Just a quick fact that I know 100% of people here dont know, but it is still worth mentioning.

Levin is actually REALLY good, and get this: he`s almost 31 years old and he`s a full time doctor and barely plays SC2. He beat Tunico in WCS South America, who`s only 19 years old and despite him going to college, at that time he used to play almost full time SC2.

Levin has been playing online games for ages, and he was quite successful at Warcraft III, he managed to beat players like Madfrog and suho (top night elf player from China).

Im almost sure he will not go through his group, but he`s a legend around here. Of all WCS players qualified, he`s the only one who does not play SC2 profissionaly.

Folha de Sao Paulo a famous newspaper here in Brazil interviewed him and the title says "Dr. Gamer" ( http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/fsp/tec/77509-doutor-gamer.shtml ).

Anyway, I`m just saying these things because it`s really worth mentioning it. A nice curiosity

ps: On the link it says Levin has been engaged to his girlfriend for 15 years hahaha... I dont know how the hell you can delay the marriage so much hahaha


That IS interesting stuff. Adds some flavor to his story for sure.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 16 2012 17:55 GMT
#62
On November 17 2012 01:27 Dexington wrote:
I will never understand this Scarlett hype. Outside of beating NA players she's hardly done anything. I expect her to go 0-2 out of the group.


2nd place RSL (4-3 to Leenock), AK Dignitas, IPL's world vs korea qualifier. She also beat both Bomber and HerO in the last MLG to tie with Suppy as the fourth highest placed non-korean. And all of that is just in the last month.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18593 Posts
November 16 2012 17:57 GMT
#63
wth who was the crazy insane person who created Group E???
Cornix
Profile Joined June 2011
United States220 Posts
November 16 2012 18:03 GMT
#64
On November 17 2012 02:57 sharkie wrote:
wth who was the crazy insane person who created Group E???


Blame day[9], he was using his psychic powers on the draws all night. Seriously go watch the video.
iS.SunnY, writer extraordinaire. Miami CSL!
KookyMonster
Profile Joined January 2012
United States311 Posts
November 16 2012 18:04 GMT
#65
Great write up! It matched my bracket perfectly!
Paper is Imba. Scissors is fine. -Rock
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
November 16 2012 18:04 GMT
#66
I actually am rooting for CJ_Hero ... i think he has a good shot at getting out of his group.
tomaszot
Profile Joined November 2012
Poland3 Posts
November 16 2012 18:06 GMT
#67
Agreed. IDRA is not capable to compete with the best these days. He hasn't shown anything since last year?
I'LL BE BACK
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
November 16 2012 18:06 GMT
#68
On November 17 2012 02:57 sharkie wrote:
wth who was the crazy insane person who created Group E???

no seeding + random drawings
Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
November 16 2012 18:11 GMT
#69
"Winners Match: Stephano > RorO"

Did Stephano improve his ZvZ so much?
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Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 18:17:39
November 16 2012 18:15 GMT
#70
On November 17 2012 02:11 maracuja123 wrote:
Just a quick fact that I know 100% of people here dont know, but it is still worth mentioning.

Levin is actually REALLY good, and get this: he`s almost 31 years old and he`s a full time doctor and barely plays SC2. He beat Tunico in WCS South America, who`s only 19 years old and despite him going to college, at that time he used to play almost full time SC2.

Levin has been playing online games for ages, and he was quite successful at Warcraft III, he managed to beat players like Madfrog and suho (top night elf player from China).

Im almost sure he will not go through his group, but he`s a legend around here. Of all WCS players qualified, he`s the only one who does not play SC2 profissionaly.

Folha de Sao Paulo a famous newspaper here in Brazil interviewed him and the title says "Dr. Gamer" ( http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/fsp/tec/77509-doutor-gamer.shtml ).

Anyway, I`m just saying these things because it`s really worth mentioning it. A nice curiosity

ps: On the link it says Levin has been engaged to his girlfriend for 15 years hahaha... I dont know how the hell you can delay the marriage so much hahaha


yeah I remember him in WC3. He had a very decent Nightelf vs Nightelf matchup and played in the WC3L (most important teamleague outside Korea) under the Jungleteam (jNg) along with Skyward etc

And its true he could ocassionally beat top players in Europe in a Nightelf vs Nightelf

Too bad hes too old to play serious now, hope another Brazilian star rises soon in the world of SC2
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
Negatiive
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada207 Posts
November 16 2012 18:15 GMT
#71
Major will get out of his group... i believe T_T
ROOT4ROOT <3
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
November 16 2012 18:18 GMT
#72
Stephano, HerO, Curious, TitaN, LucifroN, Insur, Creator, and Nerchio. Agreeing with all the top picks and disagreeing in all the 2nd picks. I'm a Bomber fan; I've learned to have faith
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
ChriseC
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany440 Posts
November 16 2012 18:19 GMT
#73
IDRAAAAAAAAAAAA GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
philip697
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom123 Posts
November 16 2012 18:19 GMT
#74
TL shows that this starts in 7 hours 42 mins, which would make it 2am UK time... that doesn't seem very clever! Is that definitely right?
Titan999
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark67 Posts
November 16 2012 18:20 GMT
#75
awesome write up, but Scarlett will not beat Nerchio i a ZvZ... just no.
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Ayoeme
Profile Joined November 2011
Latvia59 Posts
November 16 2012 18:22 GMT
#76
On November 17 2012 03:11 Madars wrote:
"Winners Match: Stephano > RorO"

Did Stephano improve his ZvZ so much?


It's weird, while he has significantly improved his ZvZ, it still isn't the best in the world. Not by a long shot. Since ZvZ is in a way a clash of styles, there's many great ZvZers who might outright lose to stephano but some "not as good" players who could beat him in ZvZ.

Example: In WCS Europe, when he first improved his ZvZ a little, vortix, who then was a good ZvZer and even took out nerchio i think, couldn't lay a finger on Stephano, no matter what he did. That happened to a few other players afterwards as well. SortOf, who has a slow ZvZ style, couldn't touch him as well in ESWC. Though it isn't the best tournament to compare, neither korean zergs nor stephanos A game were present, at the same time johnnyrecco gave him a run for his money, while his zvz is worse than sortof's.

I think this translates to higher caliber players as well. Since Stephano hasn't played him before (not any kespa players in tournaments), and his ZvZ is pretty style dependant, while better since the last time we saw it vs koreans, I can't predict the winner.
For some things, reason is not necessary.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
November 16 2012 18:25 GMT
#77
On November 17 2012 03:19 philip697 wrote:
TL shows that this starts in 7 hours 42 mins, which would make it 2am UK time... that doesn't seem very clever! Is that definitely right?


Yes,,,,,,unfortunatly.
pigtheman
Profile Joined January 2009
United States333 Posts
November 16 2012 18:28 GMT
#78
INSUR TAKES IT ALL CALLING IT NOW :D
*rawr* d(^_^d)
philip697
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom123 Posts
November 16 2012 18:28 GMT
#79
On November 17 2012 03:25 DaCruise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 03:19 philip697 wrote:
TL shows that this starts in 7 hours 42 mins, which would make it 2am UK time... that doesn't seem very clever! Is that definitely right?


Yes,,,,,,unfortunatly.

Oh ok Well I've been up about 30 hours as it is now, as I didn't go to sleep after night shift.... so I gue4ss I'd better get some sleep if I want to watch any of this!
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 16 2012 18:29 GMT
#80
Amazing read as usual, i am actually looking forward to Stephano playing as the foreigner hope from these groups... All hopes on Stephano and Grubby!!!
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