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Life is going to meet his maker... if you know what I mean.
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On September 09 2012 04:45 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 01:52 ChoboDane wrote: I cant believe people who would have preferred to see a foreigner in the final. Dont you guys like quality games? We get exposure to quality higher-than-foreign-level games on daily basis, even 24/7 if you're counting streams. They're not that much of a commodity any more. It's a rarity that players as good as Life and Creator stream.
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I hope TSL5 ( and wish it come!) is like TSL 2 and 3. Both were incredibly awesome. And for the me the highest tier of tournaments.
because I moved in a foreign city and didn't have internet I travled 2 houres to the company of my father only to download the latest tsl2 games. It felt completly worth it, I never question that. TSL3 I watched very game life (coz I finally had inet).
So epic tournaments. The Idra game, the Mondragon action, The Thorzaine fighting. That only in TSL3. TSL2 with Mondragons walk through and the idra tyler rage game.. oh man.
If Koreans are that much stronger I think TSL4 should be like TSL2 a foreign tournament. That would be so amazing!
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On September 09 2012 01:58 Gojira621 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 01:52 ChoboDane wrote: I cant believe people who would have preferred to see a foreigner in the final. Dont you guys like quality games?
As for myself, I'm looking much more forward to this final than TSL3 (which was awesome). so if it's a korean player, the quality of games will always be better? Perhaps you don't understand how fanbase and fan interest works. People want to watch players they can relate to, players who have storylines, and generally players who have established themselves as big names. Life and Creator, while currently making names for themselves, haven't really done so to this point (the WCS win for Creator is pretty awesome though). Considering TSL was traditionally about getting big name non-koreans to dish it out and create some fun/exciting storylines, this is kind of the opposite. It just feels like a regular GSL match So just say that FlaSh and Jaedong qualified and went to the finals and met each other in the finals. I bet no one would be bitching at all. They have story lines and fan base but they didn't start out that way these are great player let them build their legacy just cause its a Korean doesn't take away from the games at all . It almost seems like people are segregating players and not showing interests in games because people are KOREAN and not foreigner . It's sad .
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On September 09 2012 05:51 Wrath 2.1 wrote: I hope TSL5 ( and wish it come!) is like TSL 2 and 3. Both were incredibly awesome. And for the me the highest tier of tournaments.
because I moved in a foreign city and didn't have internet I travled 2 houres to the company of my father only to download the latest tsl2 games. It felt completly worth it, I never question that. TSL3 I watched very game life (coz I finally had inet).
So epic tournaments. The Idra game, the Mondragon action, The Thorzaine fighting. That only in TSL3. TSL2 with Mondragons walk through and the idra tyler rage game.. oh man.
If Koreans are that much stronger I think TSL4 should be like TSL2 a foreign tournament. That would be so amazing! This is what I am talkin about
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I like watching foreigners don't get me wrong but was anyone who really loved broodwar any less interested in it cause Koreans won all the time ? Cause they actually gave a shit ? FlaSh and JaeDong , Boxer and Yellow etc etc were some of the best rivalries in eSports they were Korean and no one sAid they wouldn't watch tournaments they played in?
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On September 09 2012 06:24 Shakattak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 05:51 Wrath 2.1 wrote: I hope TSL5 ( and wish it come!) is like TSL 2 and 3. Both were incredibly awesome. And for the me the highest tier of tournaments.
because I moved in a foreign city and didn't have internet I travled 2 houres to the company of my father only to download the latest tsl2 games. It felt completly worth it, I never question that. TSL3 I watched very game life (coz I finally had inet).
So epic tournaments. The Idra game, the Mondragon action, The Thorzaine fighting. That only in TSL3. TSL2 with Mondragons walk through and the idra tyler rage game.. oh man.
If Koreans are that much stronger I think TSL4 should be like TSL2 a foreign tournament. That would be so amazing! This is what I am talkin about I dont know why theres no mention of TSL 1 in this. so lost. (EASILY, the best TSL imo). The reason these arent exclusive to foreigners is because in BroodWar, koreans were so far ahead it would have literally been a complete stomp out(as in maybe 1 game dropped to non koreans the entire time) In SC2, i think the gap may be getting there but it's def not there yet, so no need to be foreign only
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On September 09 2012 06:23 Shakattak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 01:58 Gojira621 wrote:On September 09 2012 01:52 ChoboDane wrote: I cant believe people who would have preferred to see a foreigner in the final. Dont you guys like quality games?
As for myself, I'm looking much more forward to this final than TSL3 (which was awesome). so if it's a korean player, the quality of games will always be better? Perhaps you don't understand how fanbase and fan interest works. People want to watch players they can relate to, players who have storylines, and generally players who have established themselves as big names. Life and Creator, while currently making names for themselves, haven't really done so to this point (the WCS win for Creator is pretty awesome though). Considering TSL was traditionally about getting big name non-koreans to dish it out and create some fun/exciting storylines, this is kind of the opposite. It just feels like a regular GSL match So just say that FlaSh and Jaedong qualified and went to the finals and met each other in the finals. I bet no one would be bitching at all. They have story lines and fan base but they didn't start out that way these are great player let them build their legacy just cause its a Korean doesn't take away from the games at all . It almost seems like people are segregating players and not showing interests in games because people are KOREAN and not foreigner . It's sad .
my post pretty much agrees with everything you're saying so I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make. Obviously Flash and Jaedong playing would be huge because its...Flash and Jaedong. They have huge fanbases and we would all love to see it. Creator is sort of a newcomer on the international scene and same with Life since they haven't played in many big tournaments outside Korea that i can think of. I never said all koreans shouldn't get interest in their games. There are a ton of koreans who have built up huge fanbases throughout the sc2 era, and people have fallen in love with their personalities, i.e. MC, marineking, MVP, Nestea, DongRaeGu i could go on and on.
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On September 09 2012 13:46 Gojira621 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 06:23 Shakattak wrote:On September 09 2012 01:58 Gojira621 wrote:On September 09 2012 01:52 ChoboDane wrote: I cant believe people who would have preferred to see a foreigner in the final. Dont you guys like quality games?
As for myself, I'm looking much more forward to this final than TSL3 (which was awesome). so if it's a korean player, the quality of games will always be better? Perhaps you don't understand how fanbase and fan interest works. People want to watch players they can relate to, players who have storylines, and generally players who have established themselves as big names. Life and Creator, while currently making names for themselves, haven't really done so to this point (the WCS win for Creator is pretty awesome though). Considering TSL was traditionally about getting big name non-koreans to dish it out and create some fun/exciting storylines, this is kind of the opposite. It just feels like a regular GSL match So just say that FlaSh and Jaedong qualified and went to the finals and met each other in the finals. I bet no one would be bitching at all. They have story lines and fan base but they didn't start out that way these are great player let them build their legacy just cause its a Korean doesn't take away from the games at all . It almost seems like people are segregating players and not showing interests in games because people are KOREAN and not foreigner . It's sad . my post pretty much agrees with everything you're saying so I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make. Obviously Flash and Jaedong playing would be huge because its...Flash and Jaedong. They have huge fanbases and we would all love to see it. Creator is sort of a newcomer on the international scene and same with Life since they haven't played in many big tournaments outside Korea that i can think of. I never said all koreans shouldn't get interest in their games. There are a ton of koreans who have built up huge fanbases throughout the sc2 era, and people have fallen in love with their personalities, i.e. MC, marineking, MVP, Nestea, DongRaeGu i could go on and on.
No what I'm saying is that these newer players are gonna be the new Flashes and jaedongs of their era it's nice to see them make progress , peoPle need to see Korean players as players more then "oh another Korean /ignore"
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On September 10 2012 14:42 Shakattak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 13:46 Gojira621 wrote:On September 09 2012 06:23 Shakattak wrote:On September 09 2012 01:58 Gojira621 wrote:On September 09 2012 01:52 ChoboDane wrote: I cant believe people who would have preferred to see a foreigner in the final. Dont you guys like quality games?
As for myself, I'm looking much more forward to this final than TSL3 (which was awesome). so if it's a korean player, the quality of games will always be better? Perhaps you don't understand how fanbase and fan interest works. People want to watch players they can relate to, players who have storylines, and generally players who have established themselves as big names. Life and Creator, while currently making names for themselves, haven't really done so to this point (the WCS win for Creator is pretty awesome though). Considering TSL was traditionally about getting big name non-koreans to dish it out and create some fun/exciting storylines, this is kind of the opposite. It just feels like a regular GSL match So just say that FlaSh and Jaedong qualified and went to the finals and met each other in the finals. I bet no one would be bitching at all. They have story lines and fan base but they didn't start out that way these are great player let them build their legacy just cause its a Korean doesn't take away from the games at all . It almost seems like people are segregating players and not showing interests in games because people are KOREAN and not foreigner . It's sad . my post pretty much agrees with everything you're saying so I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make. Obviously Flash and Jaedong playing would be huge because its...Flash and Jaedong. They have huge fanbases and we would all love to see it. Creator is sort of a newcomer on the international scene and same with Life since they haven't played in many big tournaments outside Korea that i can think of. I never said all koreans shouldn't get interest in their games. There are a ton of koreans who have built up huge fanbases throughout the sc2 era, and people have fallen in love with their personalities, i.e. MC, marineking, MVP, Nestea, DongRaeGu i could go on and on. No what I'm saying is that these newer players are gonna be the new Flashes and jaedongs of their era
Somehow I doubt that. Some players will be the Flashes and Jaedongs of their era, but it won't be these two.
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On September 10 2012 15:29 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 14:42 Shakattak wrote:On September 09 2012 13:46 Gojira621 wrote:On September 09 2012 06:23 Shakattak wrote:On September 09 2012 01:58 Gojira621 wrote:On September 09 2012 01:52 ChoboDane wrote: I cant believe people who would have preferred to see a foreigner in the final. Dont you guys like quality games?
As for myself, I'm looking much more forward to this final than TSL3 (which was awesome). so if it's a korean player, the quality of games will always be better? Perhaps you don't understand how fanbase and fan interest works. People want to watch players they can relate to, players who have storylines, and generally players who have established themselves as big names. Life and Creator, while currently making names for themselves, haven't really done so to this point (the WCS win for Creator is pretty awesome though). Considering TSL was traditionally about getting big name non-koreans to dish it out and create some fun/exciting storylines, this is kind of the opposite. It just feels like a regular GSL match So just say that FlaSh and Jaedong qualified and went to the finals and met each other in the finals. I bet no one would be bitching at all. They have story lines and fan base but they didn't start out that way these are great player let them build their legacy just cause its a Korean doesn't take away from the games at all . It almost seems like people are segregating players and not showing interests in games because people are KOREAN and not foreigner . It's sad . my post pretty much agrees with everything you're saying so I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make. Obviously Flash and Jaedong playing would be huge because its...Flash and Jaedong. They have huge fanbases and we would all love to see it. Creator is sort of a newcomer on the international scene and same with Life since they haven't played in many big tournaments outside Korea that i can think of. I never said all koreans shouldn't get interest in their games. There are a ton of koreans who have built up huge fanbases throughout the sc2 era, and people have fallen in love with their personalities, i.e. MC, marineking, MVP, Nestea, DongRaeGu i could go on and on. No what I'm saying is that these newer players are gonna be the new Flashes and jaedongs of their era Somehow I doubt that. Some players will be the Flashes and Jaedongs of their era, but it won't be these two. hahaha, you're quite the creator hater, aye.
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On September 10 2012 15:29 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 14:42 Shakattak wrote:On September 09 2012 13:46 Gojira621 wrote:On September 09 2012 06:23 Shakattak wrote:On September 09 2012 01:58 Gojira621 wrote:On September 09 2012 01:52 ChoboDane wrote: I cant believe people who would have preferred to see a foreigner in the final. Dont you guys like quality games?
As for myself, I'm looking much more forward to this final than TSL3 (which was awesome). so if it's a korean player, the quality of games will always be better? Perhaps you don't understand how fanbase and fan interest works. People want to watch players they can relate to, players who have storylines, and generally players who have established themselves as big names. Life and Creator, while currently making names for themselves, haven't really done so to this point (the WCS win for Creator is pretty awesome though). Considering TSL was traditionally about getting big name non-koreans to dish it out and create some fun/exciting storylines, this is kind of the opposite. It just feels like a regular GSL match So just say that FlaSh and Jaedong qualified and went to the finals and met each other in the finals. I bet no one would be bitching at all. They have story lines and fan base but they didn't start out that way these are great player let them build their legacy just cause its a Korean doesn't take away from the games at all . It almost seems like people are segregating players and not showing interests in games because people are KOREAN and not foreigner . It's sad . my post pretty much agrees with everything you're saying so I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make. Obviously Flash and Jaedong playing would be huge because its...Flash and Jaedong. They have huge fanbases and we would all love to see it. Creator is sort of a newcomer on the international scene and same with Life since they haven't played in many big tournaments outside Korea that i can think of. I never said all koreans shouldn't get interest in their games. There are a ton of koreans who have built up huge fanbases throughout the sc2 era, and people have fallen in love with their personalities, i.e. MC, marineking, MVP, Nestea, DongRaeGu i could go on and on. No what I'm saying is that these newer players are gonna be the new Flashes and jaedongs of their era Somehow I doubt that. Some players will be the Flashes and Jaedongs of their era, but it won't be these two. He is 16 life is 15 , these guys are Young and full of skill and talent
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