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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
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ellirc
Sweden3286 Posts
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
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phoenixfeather95
665 Posts
On September 09 2012 00:42 ellirc wrote: Judging from the amount(or actually lack of) of pages in this thread. Nobody cares. Very few people relate to these players. It's sad. I wish the format was different, but I still love TSL and TL. I hope for entertaining games. But it's not even live. Most people will understand what I'm saying. I'm totally with you. This TSL is a bit underwhelming to be completely honest. I remember in the TSL3 Finals, in the final game with Day9 solo casting, ThorZaiN vs NaNiwa struggling so hard to try and win... that was the most memorable moment for me. Such hype and a very very epic finals. Let's just hope this Finals will not be a disappointment. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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ChoboDane
Denmark98 Posts
As for myself, I'm looking much more forward to this final than TSL3 (which was awesome). | ||
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Gojira621
United States374 Posts
On September 09 2012 01:52 ChoboDane wrote: I cant believe people who would have preferred to see a foreigner in the final. Dont you guys like quality games? As for myself, I'm looking much more forward to this final than TSL3 (which was awesome). so if it's a korean player, the quality of games will always be better? Perhaps you don't understand how fanbase and fan interest works. People want to watch players they can relate to, players who have storylines, and generally players who have established themselves as big names. Life and Creator, while currently making names for themselves, haven't really done so to this point (the WCS win for Creator is pretty awesome though). Considering TSL was traditionally about getting big name non-koreans to dish it out and create some fun/exciting storylines, this is kind of the opposite. It just feels like a regular GSL match | ||
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
On September 08 2012 09:15 SpunXtain03 wrote: I still think it's disappointing that the players are being cast from replays now, rather than playing live at the TLHQ. If a team considers its players to be too young to compete in foreign tournaments, then they should not be entered. Like it or not, being a progamer requires some sacrifices. These kids are getting a headstart in life with huge cash bonuses, and they are living the dream that thousands of people wish they could - making a career out of gaming. Because Creator and Life joined the tournament, two other potential candidates were not able to join the tournament. If you're not willing or able to make the requirements you shouldn't be in it - at this point, I'd recommend Team Liquid need to consider whether or not they should reinvite these two for the next TSL. They've shown a lack of commitment, and disappointed fans - and they are being paid a lot of money for it. When you think about how disappointing it is for the TL staff, the fans, the other progamers who couldn't be in the tournament, and think how easy it would be for the teams to either send a coach or captain with their players, or even a family member, it just seems a bit of a let-down to me. Maybe we need to start introducing 18+ tournaments... lol. This kinda reminds me of the first TSL "ITS A REPLAY????" I don't blame their parents one bit for expressing concern. Watch the games and don't complain. | ||
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
On September 08 2012 23:07 Dionyseus wrote: Well things were very different back in TSL3, the foreigners were still underdogs but not as big an underdog as they are now. The skill gap used to be close enough that you could be fooled into believing that Thorzain and Naniwa were as good as the Koreans. Now the Koreans dominate so hard that having an all Korean finals makes it a bit hard to distinguish this final from any other Korean final. It's actually pretty easy, as there are pretty much always different players in those "Korean finals". But I guess it's even easier to just look at players nationality and say "oh they are Korean. so boring" instead of actually dealing with every player as an individual. Quite sad tbh. | ||
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ChoboDane
Denmark98 Posts
On September 09 2012 01:58 Gojira621 wrote: so if it's a korean player, the quality of games will always be better? Perhaps you don't understand how fanbase and fan interest works. People want to watch players they can relate to, players who have storylines, and generally players who have established themselves as big names. Life and Creator, while currently making names for themselves, haven't really done so to this point (the WCS win for Creator is pretty awesome though). Considering TSL was traditionally about getting big name non-koreans to dish it out and create some fun/exciting storylines, this is kind of the opposite. It just feels like a regular GSL match no the quality of games will be better because these two players are way way way way way better than anyone outside of Korea. and no I dont understand this fanbase and fan interest thing. Why would you root for the inferior players? | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
not entirely sure how you work out that there's $16k on the line | ||
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metbull
United States404 Posts
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Gojira621
United States374 Posts
On September 09 2012 02:18 ChoboDane wrote: no the quality of games will be better because these two players are way way way way way better than anyone outside of Korea. and no I dont understand this fanbase and fan interest thing. Why would you root for the inferior players? Ask any sports fan who cheers for a team/player that doesn't win 100% of their games. Cheering only for winners is boring and seems stupid. Also there are lots of great players outside Korea that I doubt Life and Creator have played before so I find it hard to take that seriously. | ||
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ChoboDane
Denmark98 Posts
On September 09 2012 03:14 Gojira621 wrote: Ask any sports fan who cheers for a team/player that doesn't win 100% of their games. Cheering only for winners is boring and seems stupid. Also there are lots of great players outside Korea that I doubt Life and Creator have played before so I find it hard to take that seriously. you would be a fool to argue Creator and Life arent leagues above any foreigner. | ||
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thegeek574
United States29 Posts
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ellirc
Sweden3286 Posts
On September 09 2012 02:18 ChoboDane wrote: no the quality of games will be better because these two players are way way way way way better than anyone outside of Korea. and no I dont understand this fanbase and fan interest thing. Why would you root for the inferior players? You seem to have a major misunderstanding on how sports works. It doesn't actually matter if the games are shit. If the teams(or players in this case) have fans it will be a big deal anyway. It's almost journalists only that watch football games or hockey and say "amagad that was an amazing game". If Man U and Chelsea had NO fans and were about to encounter in a match in CL, do you think it'd be a big deal? The FANS are everything. Therefore I say that this TSL is a total failure. I know there is a lot of money on the line. I know a lot of players tried to qualify. I also know that basically nobody is going to watch the finals. Why? Go figure... | ||
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ChoboDane
Denmark98 Posts
On September 09 2012 03:42 ellirc wrote: You seem to have a major misunderstanding on how sports works. It doesn't actually matter if the games are shit. If the teams(or players in this case) have fans it will be a big deal anyway. It's almost journalists only that watch football games or hockey and say "amagad that was an amazing game". If Man U and Chelsea had NO fans and were about to encounter in a match in CL, do you think it'd be a big deal? The FANS are everything. Therefore I say that this TSL is a total failure. I know there is a lot of money on the line. I know a lot of players tried to qualify. I also know that basically nobody is going to watch the finals. Why? Go figure... Who cares if random noobs watch or not? | ||
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ellirc
Sweden3286 Posts
On September 09 2012 03:45 ChoboDane wrote: Who cares if random noobs watch or not? All of esports..? That's the whole point. | ||
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Gojira621
United States374 Posts
On September 09 2012 03:45 ChoboDane wrote: Who cares if random noobs watch or not? obviously our arguments have flown right over your head so I'm done trying. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On September 09 2012 01:52 ChoboDane wrote: I cant believe people who would have preferred to see a foreigner in the final. Dont you guys like quality games? We get exposure to | ||
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