[GSTL] Round Two - Fnatic vs Prime/NSH vs Startale - Page 3

On June 16 2012 10:31 NrGmonk wrote:

If this were true, then Jjakji is considered a better player than MKP?

On June 16 2012 10:46 TheQuixotic wrote:
MKP should never have been considered the best player in the world. I said it then and I'll say it now. MLG is a great tournament, but it does not feature anywhere near the depth of competition that GSL does. The fact that players cannot be near their peak condition at an MLG isn't my primary issue, but it does compound the its issues.

MKP was never the best player in the world, due to his consistant failure to make a deep run in the most important tournament during the time period at hand. I would say that right now, no player has the results to be considered #1.

On June 16 2012 10:33 Dodgin wrote:


not " better " because " better " is not defined by achievements but by gameplay, he is more accomplished though.

then again you can make an argument for 3 gsl silvers and 2 mlgs > one gsl win, which I would probably agree with.

On June 16 2012 08:04 JJH777 wrote:
MarineKing the number 1 Terran? I don't think he was the Terran that just won GSL.... Pretty sure he's the one who hasn't even passed ro16 in like a year.

On June 16 2012 10:49 Pokebunny wrote:

I think more important than any titles is taking into account consistent quality of play and success vs top level opponents over a period of time, which MarineKing has shown more than anyone as of late IMO. Sure Jjakji did great, and yes Mvp's GSLs are obviously a massive achievement, but I think MKP seems like the scarier player right now. Of course this is subjective, but I don't think you can look at it as simply as comparing medals.

On June 16 2012 10:53 Dodgin wrote:


I agree you can't just look at medals when looking for " the best player " that's why It's so hard to really say who the best is, right now I think DRG is currently playing the best out of anyone but that can change very quickly if he for example fails to advance from his ro32 group. It's hard to please everyone with the criteria of what makes the best player.

On June 16 2012 10:49 TommyP wrote:


Code S really isnt the best indicator of skill. Anything can happen and its like a shit fest basically. I dont really think you can dispute MKP as the best Terran (DRG fan here)

On June 16 2012 10:55 Dodgin wrote:


GSL is basically a shit fest and anything can happen, what do you call rushing out an entire premier tournament in a weekend? GSL is where you can see who the most consistent players are, not just who is having a good weekend.

On June 16 2012 10:57 NuclearJudas wrote:

I assume you mean MLG or something like it in you first sentence?

Glad Fnatic managed to upset Prime, and I hope NSH can pull out a win tonight. :D

On June 16 2012 10:57 TommyP wrote:


True, but it shows who can be the best in the world without preparing for a single opponent and what i meant by "shit fest" was there is just too much talent and you never have an easy game, where as in MLG you can play a foreigner, but yes pretty much all tournaments are shit fests.

On June 16 2012 08:40 andaylin wrote:

MVP is the best Terran at preparation/strategy
MKP is the best at MLG/IPL kind of things relying on fundamentals/mechanics

Arguably the top 2 of the Terrans though.

On June 16 2012 10:58 Dodgin wrote:


Yep typo, sorry.



I can agree with that, I still think winning a GSL with the current length of the season is by far the most impressive thing any player can accomplish though. Last year's GSL seasons were a lot shorter but now it really takes a champion to play well enough to win a 2-3 month long tournament.

I'll give an example, Slayers_Alicia.

Alicia was playing amazing at MLG and came home with second, beating MKP.

But Alicia will never win GSL ( feel free to quote me months/years down the road and laugh if I'm wrong ) because he is not a true champion. Marineking is also, not yet, a true champion. When Marineking wins the GSL he will be. This of course has nothing to do with player skill and we're getting a bit off topic here but I want people to understand just how hard it is to win GSL compared to a weekend tournament. This is why It's the most prestigious tournament in the world and lots of people will agree 1 gsl > multiple MLG wins.

On June 16 2012 09:25 MasterKang wrote:


"MarineKingPrime, the #1 Terran player in the world, was particularly disappointing". I don't see the word "arguably" in there do you?

On June 16 2012 09:03 JJH777 wrote:

Winning a GSL is more impressive than winning 10 MLGs.

On June 16 2012 11:25 Snijjer wrote:


And lots of people will agree multiple MLG wins is more impressive than 1 GSL win.

I don't get why yall are even arguing. Some people like the planning, mindgame skills in GSL and some people like the game sense needed for MLGs. As for which one's better - they are both opinions, there is not right or wrong answer.

For now the only objective reason GSL is considered better is because of the high level competition, but MLG keeps getting better and better players coming so ...