• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:28
CEST 20:28
KST 03:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League36Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.164Rollback Netcode in Brood War1345.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0
StarCraft 2
General
Server Blocker SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact No more sc2 streamers on team liquid? Stellar Fest 2 Replay Pack Terran AddOns placement
Tourneys
WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Mineral gathering rate (boosted) for each patch BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How Much Genes Contribute to…
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10905 users

Heart of the Swarm Update - Page 9

Forum Index > News
480 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 25 Next All
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 22:36:26
June 08 2012 22:35 GMT
#161
cloak
recall
spider mine
goliath
firebat
defiler-consume, swarm
lurker downgrade
hydra speed

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

protoss looks like it's going to continue to be the race that makes matchups boring
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
June 08 2012 22:35 GMT
#162
On June 09 2012 06:31 Sadistx wrote:
Widow mine:

AKA - we give up on giving terran something to control terrain and we're just going to reintroduce spider mine, because it worked so well in bw.


My thoughts exactly, they just too proud to admit they made a mistake so they call it something else.I thought the same thing about the swarm host when it cam out, they want to give us the lurker but they are too proud to say they made a mistake. Instead lets give them something similar to both the lurker and the brood lord.
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
June 08 2012 22:36 GMT
#163
SPIDER MINES!!!! but 22 range upgrade for tempest? Pretty ridiculous.
Animal_PL
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland11 Posts
June 08 2012 22:36 GMT
#164
So Terrans are now Transforrmers, so in the HotS store they will discover thanks to some prophecy, that for real they came from Cybertron... I cant belive it. Not enougth that this race will become the most difficult in play, it will also be the most ugly race in the game.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
June 08 2012 22:36 GMT
#165
On June 09 2012 06:38 rufflesQueso wrote:
SC2: Heart of the Swarm or as I like to call it... wanna-be Brood War.

Anywho, I am so excited for the new terran units. Perhaps finally Mech will be viable vs protoss! (Anti-mech missiles seem pretty nice :D)


Wanna-be Brood War...that sounds like a game I'd enjoy playing :D
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Tippecanoe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States342 Posts
June 08 2012 22:37 GMT
#166
On June 09 2012 07:35 mcmartini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 06:31 Sadistx wrote:
Widow mine:

AKA - we give up on giving terran something to control terrain and we're just going to reintroduce spider mine, because it worked so well in bw.


My thoughts exactly, they just too proud to admit they made a mistake so they call it something else.I thought the same thing about the swarm host when it cam out, they want to give us the lurker but they are too proud to say they made a mistake. Instead lets give them something similar to both the lurker and the brood lord.


Takes 8 seconds to blow up, and even dustin himself said he expects pros to take no damage from it.
Dragonspear
Profile Joined April 2011
United States28 Posts
June 08 2012 22:37 GMT
#167
On June 09 2012 07:20 HellNino wrote:
If Warhounds dosen't fire at air, i REALLY hope blizzard dosen't remove the thor...

Or their hope to see more mech play seems very compromised...

And 22 range tempest?! WTF... With an obs they can kill BL when they're still in the zerg base...


Twitter: Khaldor confirmed that Thors are still in game and you can make more than 1.
Nuclear Launch Detected
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
June 08 2012 22:38 GMT
#168
On June 09 2012 07:37 Tippecanoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 07:35 mcmartini wrote:
On June 09 2012 06:31 Sadistx wrote:
Widow mine:

AKA - we give up on giving terran something to control terrain and we're just going to reintroduce spider mine, because it worked so well in bw.


My thoughts exactly, they just too proud to admit they made a mistake so they call it something else.I thought the same thing about the swarm host when it cam out, they want to give us the lurker but they are too proud to say they made a mistake. Instead lets give them something similar to both the lurker and the brood lord.


Takes 8 seconds to blow up, and even dustin himself said he expects pros to take no damage from it.

Dustin Browder, outright admitting he wants to make the game easy.
LeapofFaith
Profile Joined November 2011
United States446 Posts
June 08 2012 22:38 GMT
#169
That looks really sick.
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 22:39:19
June 08 2012 22:38 GMT
#170
edit: nvm, someone answered this above.
Broot
Profile Joined February 2012
Ireland6 Posts
June 08 2012 22:38 GMT
#171
Cant wait! :D
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 22:39:24
June 08 2012 22:39 GMT
#172
Recall every three minutes, costing no supply. Don't the changes to protoss encourage turtling and and produce an even stronger deathball?
Tippecanoe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States342 Posts
June 08 2012 22:39 GMT
#173
On June 09 2012 07:38 rift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 07:37 Tippecanoe wrote:
On June 09 2012 07:35 mcmartini wrote:
On June 09 2012 06:31 Sadistx wrote:
Widow mine:

AKA - we give up on giving terran something to control terrain and we're just going to reintroduce spider mine, because it worked so well in bw.


My thoughts exactly, they just too proud to admit they made a mistake so they call it something else.I thought the same thing about the swarm host when it cam out, they want to give us the lurker but they are too proud to say they made a mistake. Instead lets give them something similar to both the lurker and the brood lord.


Takes 8 seconds to blow up, and even dustin himself said he expects pros to take no damage from it.

Dustin Browder, outright admitting he wants to make the game easy.


Yeah which improves my point on the widowmakers being useless just like the warhound and battle hellion.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
June 08 2012 22:39 GMT
#174
spider mines, i'm hard.
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
June 08 2012 22:40 GMT
#175
Many of the changes seem really retarded IMHO. 22 range is going to be abused no matter what. Oracle is like a micro-less version of a HT drop. The Mothership core seems to give a "get out of jail" card. Spider Widow mines seems to lose depth when they are actually constructed rather than come equipped to another unit.

I mean, I'm just not feeling anything with many of the changes, although some are nice.
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
June 08 2012 22:41 GMT
#176
If Thors aren't that hero unit concept from before, and can now be built with warhounds, then I'm pretty excited and I like these changes as Terran. The Reaper change doesn't affect me much; I still won't be building Reapers in game. The widow mine is also intriguing...
Filter
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada620 Posts
June 08 2012 22:41 GMT
#177
RIP Siege Tanks 1998 - HOTS Release
Live hard, live free.
Tippecanoe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States342 Posts
June 08 2012 22:42 GMT
#178
On June 09 2012 07:41 Filter wrote:
RIP Siege Tanks 1998 - HOTS Release


Still useful in tvt... i think.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
June 08 2012 22:42 GMT
#179
On June 09 2012 07:40 1ntrigue wrote:
Many of the changes seem really retarded IMHO. 22 range is going to be abused no matter what. Oracle is like a micro-less version of a HT drop. The Mothership core seems to give a "get out of jail" card. Spider Widow mines seems to lose depth when they are actually constructed rather than come equipped to another unit.

I mean, I'm just not feeling anything with many of the changes, although some are nice.

The oracle seems to be countered by one spine-crawler anyway, I think the cloaking ability will be used more often to be honest.
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
June 08 2012 22:42 GMT
#180
if wing of liberty its far away for being balanced... the balance in HOTS seems to be extremely difficult !! Blizzard would need years after all games are released to achieve something close to Starcraft:Broodwar Masterpiece.
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 25 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
01:00
#67
RotterdaM1014
TKL 375
TaKeTV 276
IndyStarCraft 232
SteadfastSC178
BRAT_OK 106
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1014
TKL 375
ByuN 370
IndyStarCraft 232
SteadfastSC 178
BRAT_OK 106
UpATreeSC 99
JuggernautJason72
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 20784
Calm 1750
Shuttle 1137
Horang2 327
Soulkey 243
BeSt 195
firebathero 112
ProTech110
Mong 91
Dewaltoss 75
[ Show more ]
Zeus 47
sorry 41
Killer 36
Sexy 24
ToSsGirL 21
soO 20
yabsab 12
Hm[arnc] 11
Sacsri 7
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1416
shoxiejesuss189
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby3230
Liquid`Hasu199
Other Games
B2W.Neo977
FrodaN895
Beastyqt791
ceh9745
mouzStarbuck231
KnowMe202
C9.Mang0187
QueenE91
Chillindude13
MindelVK8
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 135
• LUISG 10
• Reevou 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV994
League of Legends
• Nemesis5566
• TFBlade749
Other Games
• imaqtpie1181
• Shiphtur1176
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
16h 32m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 5h
The PondCast
1d 15h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 16h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
FEL
4 days
FEL
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.