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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 22:36:26
June 08 2012 22:35 GMT
#161
cloak
recall
spider mine
goliath
firebat
defiler-consume, swarm
lurker downgrade
hydra speed

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

protoss looks like it's going to continue to be the race that makes matchups boring
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
June 08 2012 22:35 GMT
#162
On June 09 2012 06:31 Sadistx wrote:
Widow mine:

AKA - we give up on giving terran something to control terrain and we're just going to reintroduce spider mine, because it worked so well in bw.


My thoughts exactly, they just too proud to admit they made a mistake so they call it something else.I thought the same thing about the swarm host when it cam out, they want to give us the lurker but they are too proud to say they made a mistake. Instead lets give them something similar to both the lurker and the brood lord.
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
June 08 2012 22:36 GMT
#163
SPIDER MINES!!!! but 22 range upgrade for tempest? Pretty ridiculous.
Animal_PL
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland11 Posts
June 08 2012 22:36 GMT
#164
So Terrans are now Transforrmers, so in the HotS store they will discover thanks to some prophecy, that for real they came from Cybertron... I cant belive it. Not enougth that this race will become the most difficult in play, it will also be the most ugly race in the game.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
June 08 2012 22:36 GMT
#165
On June 09 2012 06:38 rufflesQueso wrote:
SC2: Heart of the Swarm or as I like to call it... wanna-be Brood War.

Anywho, I am so excited for the new terran units. Perhaps finally Mech will be viable vs protoss! (Anti-mech missiles seem pretty nice :D)


Wanna-be Brood War...that sounds like a game I'd enjoy playing :D
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Tippecanoe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States342 Posts
June 08 2012 22:37 GMT
#166
On June 09 2012 07:35 mcmartini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 06:31 Sadistx wrote:
Widow mine:

AKA - we give up on giving terran something to control terrain and we're just going to reintroduce spider mine, because it worked so well in bw.


My thoughts exactly, they just too proud to admit they made a mistake so they call it something else.I thought the same thing about the swarm host when it cam out, they want to give us the lurker but they are too proud to say they made a mistake. Instead lets give them something similar to both the lurker and the brood lord.


Takes 8 seconds to blow up, and even dustin himself said he expects pros to take no damage from it.
Dragonspear
Profile Joined April 2011
United States28 Posts
June 08 2012 22:37 GMT
#167
On June 09 2012 07:20 HellNino wrote:
If Warhounds dosen't fire at air, i REALLY hope blizzard dosen't remove the thor...

Or their hope to see more mech play seems very compromised...

And 22 range tempest?! WTF... With an obs they can kill BL when they're still in the zerg base...


Twitter: Khaldor confirmed that Thors are still in game and you can make more than 1.
Nuclear Launch Detected
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
June 08 2012 22:38 GMT
#168
On June 09 2012 07:37 Tippecanoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 07:35 mcmartini wrote:
On June 09 2012 06:31 Sadistx wrote:
Widow mine:

AKA - we give up on giving terran something to control terrain and we're just going to reintroduce spider mine, because it worked so well in bw.


My thoughts exactly, they just too proud to admit they made a mistake so they call it something else.I thought the same thing about the swarm host when it cam out, they want to give us the lurker but they are too proud to say they made a mistake. Instead lets give them something similar to both the lurker and the brood lord.


Takes 8 seconds to blow up, and even dustin himself said he expects pros to take no damage from it.

Dustin Browder, outright admitting he wants to make the game easy.
LeapofFaith
Profile Joined November 2011
United States446 Posts
June 08 2012 22:38 GMT
#169
That looks really sick.
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 22:39:19
June 08 2012 22:38 GMT
#170
edit: nvm, someone answered this above.
Broot
Profile Joined February 2012
Ireland6 Posts
June 08 2012 22:38 GMT
#171
Cant wait! :D
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 22:39:24
June 08 2012 22:39 GMT
#172
Recall every three minutes, costing no supply. Don't the changes to protoss encourage turtling and and produce an even stronger deathball?
Tippecanoe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States342 Posts
June 08 2012 22:39 GMT
#173
On June 09 2012 07:38 rift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 07:37 Tippecanoe wrote:
On June 09 2012 07:35 mcmartini wrote:
On June 09 2012 06:31 Sadistx wrote:
Widow mine:

AKA - we give up on giving terran something to control terrain and we're just going to reintroduce spider mine, because it worked so well in bw.


My thoughts exactly, they just too proud to admit they made a mistake so they call it something else.I thought the same thing about the swarm host when it cam out, they want to give us the lurker but they are too proud to say they made a mistake. Instead lets give them something similar to both the lurker and the brood lord.


Takes 8 seconds to blow up, and even dustin himself said he expects pros to take no damage from it.

Dustin Browder, outright admitting he wants to make the game easy.


Yeah which improves my point on the widowmakers being useless just like the warhound and battle hellion.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
June 08 2012 22:39 GMT
#174
spider mines, i'm hard.
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
June 08 2012 22:40 GMT
#175
Many of the changes seem really retarded IMHO. 22 range is going to be abused no matter what. Oracle is like a micro-less version of a HT drop. The Mothership core seems to give a "get out of jail" card. Spider Widow mines seems to lose depth when they are actually constructed rather than come equipped to another unit.

I mean, I'm just not feeling anything with many of the changes, although some are nice.
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
June 08 2012 22:41 GMT
#176
If Thors aren't that hero unit concept from before, and can now be built with warhounds, then I'm pretty excited and I like these changes as Terran. The Reaper change doesn't affect me much; I still won't be building Reapers in game. The widow mine is also intriguing...
Filter
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada620 Posts
June 08 2012 22:41 GMT
#177
RIP Siege Tanks 1998 - HOTS Release
Live hard, live free.
Tippecanoe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States342 Posts
June 08 2012 22:42 GMT
#178
On June 09 2012 07:41 Filter wrote:
RIP Siege Tanks 1998 - HOTS Release


Still useful in tvt... i think.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
June 08 2012 22:42 GMT
#179
On June 09 2012 07:40 1ntrigue wrote:
Many of the changes seem really retarded IMHO. 22 range is going to be abused no matter what. Oracle is like a micro-less version of a HT drop. The Mothership core seems to give a "get out of jail" card. Spider Widow mines seems to lose depth when they are actually constructed rather than come equipped to another unit.

I mean, I'm just not feeling anything with many of the changes, although some are nice.

The oracle seems to be countered by one spine-crawler anyway, I think the cloaking ability will be used more often to be honest.
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
June 08 2012 22:42 GMT
#180
if wing of liberty its far away for being balanced... the balance in HOTS seems to be extremely difficult !! Blizzard would need years after all games are released to achieve something close to Starcraft:Broodwar Masterpiece.
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
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