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May 16th, 2012 15:10 GMT

Interview: Quantic.NaNiwa

After two weeks of skillful dodging on both sides, I finally managed to set up an interview with Code S quarter-finalist, Quantic.NaNiwa. NaNiwa's trademark honesty was on display, and we had a candid talk on wide range of topics: his GSL run, the under-appreciated but extremely important mental game in the GSL, Mvp vs Squirtle, foreigners, and the state of Protoss. I'd like to say that we left no stone unturned, but the interview was already getting dangerously close to "TL;DR" territory (and we'd hate to ban any more of you). I hope you enjoy this interview!

-Waxangel



TeamLiquid: Alright, so it’s been a few weeks since your quarterfinal loss to Mvp. How are you feeling, just in general?

NaNiwa: I feel really bored. If you go out in the round of 8, you have like a month where you don’t do anything. But if you go out in like the round of 16, you play code A, so it’s like, I’m kinda just practicing in general – I don’t have any specific thing I can prepare for.

Practicing in general, is it hard to get motivated for that in comparison to practicing for a tournament?

Yeah, well… I played for a long time, and if I don’t have any tournament, I can’t practice as efficiently I guess. So, I prefer to have tournaments.

I saw you after TSL3, you took that loss pretty hard. How are you feeling after the GSL loss?

It wasn’t the same, though. Like TSL, I still remember, it was 3-1 in my favor, I was winning the game 5, on Crossfire. I had a build planned there and I took the victory out in advance, like way before. Well, I don’t think I should say too much that will disrupt other things, but I felt that I should have won that final 4-1, right then, or at worst I should have won at Tal’darim [in game seven] where I had a huge advantage, then I choked again.

It’s extremely painful, but to lose in GSL… it’s like, I was too nervous to do the proper reactions, and that’s what really really made me angry afterwards. It’s not that I got cheesed or whatever, people might say that I play greedy or whatever, but it’s not true. Like, I made 3 cannons [on Entombed Valley] and he just got lucky. He made a random all-in on Entombed Valley that worked, and that’s it, basically. On Daybreak, I think it was, I just reacted very very bad. I should have just put down a forge, and I would have probably been fine.

So on Entombed, you didn’t know he was coming until he was right there, and your probes were too late, and it’s game over?

Yeah, basically. I couldn’t know if he had a in-base command, or if he had 2 barracks, 3 barracks, 4 barracks, and he couldn’t know if I had more than 1 cannon or whatever because he didn’t scout it. So basically he prepared that all-in way before he saw anything.

So he flipped…

He flipped a coin, but that’s part of the game. It was a tense situation, and in pressured situations, it’s good to throw in the all-ins sometimes for mind games and so on.

Did you expect him to do, like he did 2 base tank builds twice. Did you expect that kind of strategy from him?

I expected it once, yeah. But I think, the first game I was really really nervous, but then it got a bit better, but still, once you get nervous, like really nervous, and you lose, it’s really hard to recover. On Antiga, I felt I was playing normal though again, and it went exactly as I thought it would.

How should have the Cloud Kingdom game have gone, if you had played it better?

I made some really bad decisions, like I saw vikings and tanks, I should have just made a 3rd base, immortal, and immediately switched to archon and a forge. I would have defended his attack very easily if I just played it properly. It’s easy to see it afterwards and say what you should have done and how it would have played out, but I know what I did wrong and all I can do is think about the future, right? There’s not much else I can do.

So after your lost the series to MVP, that was the furthest you ever got in the GSL. So would you say, that even before you played that match, you were kind of satisfied with your run, so you didn’t feel as bad about going out?

No, no no no. I won both of my groups pretty convincingly, I think. So it would be stupid to not aim even further, at least try to. It’s always the same, it’s like, you come to the semifinal of MLG or whatever, and you think, “wow, that’s pretty good.” And then you lose, you’re like, “f***, I could have done so much better. Why did I get satisfied?”

So once you get there, even if you start off with low expectations, they grow as you get further in a tournament.

Yeah, basically, you should have the kind of mindset that even if things have gone well, you still need to go further. So while round of 8 is obviously good, I still feel that I could have done better.

But you said your first goal was to win 1 game.

Yeah, I did not expect to go this far. But, my thoughts about myself were always that I’m a good player, I can beat anybody, and so on. But then I lost in Code A like 3 times in a row, round 1, so I’m like, “perhaps I’m not as good as I thought I was.” But then when everything just fell together, and I could play without getting nervous and so on, suddenly I just kept winning. Perhaps I was right all along with being good.

But you don’t know for sure, it’s hard to tell?

Basically, I placed well and beat good enough players to claim that I am pretty good. And if I don’t have confidence in myself, then no one else will either, so I have to at least, even if I do suck – which I hope I don’t – I have to believe that I’m good at least.

Do you think you got unlucky playing Lucky in Code A that many times, that being around the time that he was one of the best at ZvP?

Hrm, no… Sure he was good, but he wasn’t the best player in Code A. So, as long as you don’t play the best player in Code A, it’s like, I wouldn’t have been able to reach code S anyway, if I played like that. It was hard for me, really hard, but clearly, I have not been as strong against Zerg as I have against Terran and Protoss, so that’s more the reason I think. It’s nerves, and PvZ.

Do you think, in this Code S run, you learned more than you did in the previous 6 months?

Yes, for sure. I learned how to prepare for a game mentally much better, and I just realized a lot of things that I never would have in foreign tournaments or whatever. And I understand why some players do better in the GSL format, and what it takes to win, is basically what I mean that I have learned more about.

What it takes to win?

Like, the kind of dedication, the kind of thought you have to put into it, certain mind games, and just things you need to think about. It’s not the same as playing a MLG or whatever, where you can just play game after game after game after game, and if you get lucky you get further, or whatever. It’s not the same.

So you think Mvp, objectively, in terms of skill, you’re better than him, but he’s a player who knows how to win more than you?

Mmm…. I don’t know if I’m better, if I could make that statement, but… Well, obviously, it would turn out bad for me if I say something like that. I do know how the community reacts.

Let’s just say, the fact that he’s a guy who has experience, and knows how to win, was a bigger factor than his straight up skill at Starcraft?

Yes. I think the real, real top players, like MC and Mvp and so on, they all have that in common. Like, they know how to prepare really, really well for like a best of 5, best of 7, or whatever. And they’re extremely familiar with the mind games that go on. If you’re a player who hasn’t played on that kind of stage – I had never ever come even close to that far in a GSL or whatever before this season – it's not as obvious to me as it is to them how to react, and how to think about everything.

Is it very different in GSL compared to the MLG format? Cause in GSL you have a lot of time to think between matches whereas in MLG you can ride momentum match to match.

Yeah, it’s momentum, but also it’s, there’s a huge audience, and there’s different adrenaline going on and so on. In GSL, it’s more like a battle against yourself. Like, sure you know everybody’s watching, but once you’re there, it’s not such a big audience. It’s just, you can feel that this is the place of the best players in the world, and if you want to prove yourself you have to play your best. But at MLG, it’s like, you can get unlucky in pool play, and there’s extended series and shit like that, it’s just that it’s the premiere league that makes it different I guess.

But you would say the crowd at MLG is an advantage for you? It makes you play better?

Yeah. When there are a lot more people seeing my games, I focus a lot better. It’s like, I know I can’t f*** up when there are so many who are seeing my game, so I have to play as good as I can. Whereas GSL, it was like, eventually it hit me how big it was. It’s like, “wow, the entire StarCraft world is seeing this.” And beforehand, I got emails from my parents and such cheering me on. So the pressure just became too much, I think, for me to handle.

So going into the finals, you said Mvp knows how to win and Squirtle’s a guy who is really good and he only kinda figured out how to win this season. So you would say objectively, Squirtle’s a better player, right?

Yeah, I think so. No, I know so, by far.

But, would you say it’s even, just because you know Mvp has... whatever, the mindgames, the experience…
Even? I don’t know. It’s impossible to tell, just because recently Squirtle has done sooooo well. He owned it up at IPL, he went... I don’t know how many games in a row he won. And then he won at GSL, he’s now at the final. So we can’t know where his peak is, or where he’s at. It’s impossible to say. It could be that he reached his best and then maybe it’s an even game, or maybe he’s going to be much better than everyone expected. So, it’s impossible to call right now.

You talk to Squirtle, he’s your teammate and stuff. Do you see him preparing – I’ve heard in recent interviews guys saying they’re preparing for the 'external' part of the game. Not the skill, the mind games, being calm. Do you see that from Squirtle at all?

Well, I know that when he was practicing for playing Hero, he basically didn’t play any games. Like, he was sick a lot of the time, and then when he wasn’t sick, he just focused on the mind game part. Cause, he seems, to be honest, really really confident in the basic skills. I don’t think I should reveal too much of what he said, but he was extremely confident going in to the match, and he won 3-0 so apparently he had it right.

I think a while back TheWind said something like StarCraft 2 or Brood War, skill is less than 50%, “mental” is 50% or more. In Korea, they say this thing, “mental” a lot, which means like confidence, calmness, etc., they always talk about it. Do you agree it’s that big?

Yeah. For sure. In practice, it’s very different. I think if you’re better at controlling it than the other player, it’s like practice skill like this, and if you’re calm, if you get better by the crowd, your skill can go up, even from like your practice level or whatever. But if you’re expecting you can’t handle the pressure, it would be like MarineKing basically, before he won everything. It’s like his practice level was so high, and then he came to a tournament, he’s like only half of what he could be. And everyone still knew he was extremely, extremely good in practice.

Do you think that’s a natural part of the game, the difference between just playing games and doing eSports?

Yeah, I guess you could say that. It makes sense.

Well in terms of competition, some competitions accentuate the mind games part, like GSL. Whereas some tournaments, where you play open bracket in a LAN environment at IPL4 or whatever, are more practice-y. Do you prefer an environment like that?

I prefer the GSL way, because once the pressure is the highest, you can see who’s the best player. It’s not just about knowing the best about the game, it’s everything else too, like handling your emotions, the pressure, all the expectations, and just living up to your own standards and controlling yourself. I think it’s more about the battle against yourself than your opponent.

And you think, a lot of foreigners don’t understand this yet because they haven’t played in Korea at that level? Playing in MLGs all the time, maybe they don’t understand that fully?

You don’t have to understand it to be good at it. Stephano’s personality is really good, because if you don’t give a s***, you won’t get nervous, so he can still play good. But, let’s say that he would suddenly start to care a lot more, then perhaps he would play worse. It’s like, if you spend every single waking moment thinking about the game, practicing the game, then you put these demands on yourself that you have to win, then there are very many players who just crumble.

But you would say that a player who cares, and cares correctly, and doesn’t get nervous, compared to a player who doesn’t give a s***, the player who case is going to do a better job?

Yeah, if he can control it correctly. It’s like, I feel that when I play my best, everything is perfect in my mind, then I know I have to win, but it’s to the extent where I can handle it. Like, my hands aren’t shaking, it’s just my mind is very very clear.

Well Stephano is almost certainly going to get a seed if he wants it. How do you think he’ll do?

Well, everyone said when I got my seed, that I would drop out 0-2, 0-2, so I’m not going to predict his group, I’ll just leave that up to him.

But just pure skill, outside of the mind part, you think he can play in Code S?

Pure skill, Stephano is a good player. He is not worse than many of the Code S players. In pure skill, but that’s not what it’s all about. When you have time to prepare for your opponent, it’s a way different game. And Stephano’s style is extremely easy to counter. If he gets the wrong opponents, he will lose for sure. If he gets the right opponent, I still think he will lose, but… I will probably get hated for it, but whatever, that’s just my honest opinion, and I would love to see him prove me wrong, because it’s always nice when another foreigner does well too.

Up to now, you haven’t really seen the side of him that prepares in this GSL way at all.
Well, all I’m seeing is the guy who sits on, playing his ladder games, looking at the timer, making the perfect timings, but what if you just disrupt all his timings? Then you have an average zerg player who sits there and does everything else that the other zerg players do. It’s not like a player like DongRaeGu who knows, “OK, that happens, then *snap* that *snap* that *snap* that *snap* that *snap* that.” It’s a continuous flow of great decision making, and just the correct things to do.

Let’s talk about another foreigner, ThorZaIN, who recently won Dreamhack Stockholm, and everyone made a big deal about it. Now, he’s set to, he mentioned in his EG announcement that he might want to come to Korea and play with SlayerS. How do you think he would do, if he came here?

I don’t know. We went here before and he did pretty well, I think. Like, he didn’t do bad. He certainly did better than me, he won 1 map I think in Code A, against YuGiOh. But, that was a long time ago, and I think ThorZaIN’s skill has dropped compared to other people’s skill going up. That’s just what I see when I see him play. But, clearly he proved me wrong. I would never ever had dreamed that he would ever win Dreamhack. Maybe I’m oblivious about his skill, but when I played him recently, at Red Bull LAN, it felt really easy for me. But, I think TvP is just his worst, and maybe if he gets a TvT he can do something, but then again Polt is Code A too, and ThorZaIN will probably start in Code S, so it will be hard. But, he is good at preparing, so I think he has a good chance.

Yeah, you think he’s one of those guys that knows how to win?

Thorzain? He’s not a born winner like that.

Born winner?

Yeah, I think there are some players who will always rise to the top no matter what, eventually.

But he obviously has the technique down.

Yes, Thorzain is a very good preparer. But, he is not alone. I think Korea is a very big place, where there are a lot of players. It just feels wrong for me to talk down on him or whatever, but we’ll see. I certainly think he has the good playstyle to fit in Korea. Maybe he can do something good if he gets to practice first. In his current state, I wouldn’t say he is good enough, but he has the potential.

Do you care a lot about this best foreigner s***? It’s a thing that goes on, people always want to talk about it. Is it something you care about, or do you just care about playing your game.

I wish I could say I only care about playing my game, but clearly I play this game not for the money, I think I’ve told everyone that several times. I only play to prove that I am the best, or whatever. So of course, if people say that someone is the best foreigner, then I want to prove them wrong. Unless it’s me, obviously. I hope eventually I will play Stephano, and ThorZaIN, and so on, and we can all decide once and for all.

Well, do you think you’re the best foreigner right now?

I don’t know. We’ll see, when Stephano plays Code S I guess.

I see. Let me ask you a few balance questions, just to end it up. So, you say your best matchup right now, PvT?

Yeah.

You think balance, imbalance?

I think super-super lategame, Terran is overpowered, when they have planetary fortresses and like 10 SCVs and lots of orbitals and so on, you can’t really win.

That’s like super-late though, like Daybreak 5 bases.

Yeah, once you max and you have like 3-3 against 2-2, then I think it’s advantageous for Protoss, but only for a while, until they sacrifice SCVs and so on. I will say, it’s probably easier to play Terran. Like, it’s very obvious what you have to do: you have to upgrade, expand, do this at that timing, but I think Protoss has more potential.

Still, even now?

Even now, I think Protoss has way more potential than Zerg or Terran. But, it won’t be displayed yet, it will take a lot of time before it’s perfect, obviously.

You talked about the super late game, does it even matter though? You barely see any games, like no GSL games have gone that phase, I think.

Yes, but it’s a very big factor why people focus on the early game, and the mid game, though.

So that’s why Protoss has to do the timings at whatever.

That’s why they do timings. That’s why MC all ins a lot, cause he knows once it gets to that stage, it’s very hard. But, there is one player who can win there obviously – Parting.

So, PvZ, you said it’s been your worst for a while even though you had your very good run at Providence, and at Winter Arena 1. Up to now, most of the top Koreans you've beat have been Zerg.

NesTea and me are just very similar players. Like, we’re both focusing very much on strategies, like the mental part of the game, but there are a lot of Zergs who are faster than him, they do things better than him, but he has the best game plan. But I am also the same kind of person who has game plans. So eventually, we just cancel each other out, and then sometimes I win, and sometimes he wins. But I seem to be reading him a bit better than he reads me.

You also beat Leenock and DRG.

Um, I lost to DongRaeGu. Oh yeah, at Providence. Yeah, Leenock… I pretty much just had the momentum there. Like, I beat NesTea, and then I played another Zerg, it was like, “OK, I know what to do.”

Outside yourself, what do you think about the matchup?

There are some things I don’t like, like it’s kinda too random, some things. There is some point in the game where you can’t know if they make too many drones and you should commit and punish them, or they don’t make too many drones, and they make units, and they kill you instead. It’s some flaws in the game design I think, but overall it comes down to the maps most though. I think it’s fine, but like Entombed Valley is too good for Protoss, Tal’Darim or whatever is very hard for Protoss lategame cause it’s so big you can’t really do a lot.

But a lot of Zerg players would say the same, like the scouting is hard for them to know what Protoss is doing either.

Not any more.

Oh yeah, that’s true. What do you think of the patch?

It’s f***ing bulls***, haha. It’s like, it removes any possibility of any all in ever working, and that’s not the way it should be. You should have to see signs for it, and now it’s not even possible to mind game it like making a certain amount of gas, or probes, or whatever. They can just fly it straight in, and see everything.

So it’s just 9-minute expansion every game?

That doesn’t really work, you can obviously make a lot more drones than you can make probes. But it’s not… there is recently a lot of new things discovered by Protoss. A lot of sentry/immortal timing and then taking your expansion later, and you force them to make roaches or whatever, and it seems pretty good. So I think I’m too bad at PvZ right now to judge it, but I can beat some really good Zergs right now even, when I play a lot.

And lastly, PvP. It’s the one people have been saying has the most variance, involves the most luck for a long time. But then, I guess recently, Oz was doing pretty well for a while, and now Squirtle’s coming up with a ridiculous record. So do you think certain players having super-high winrates is just them riding variance? Or at a truly high level, the game changes again and it’s not so much luck any more?

It’s not about luck or variance, it’s like, once a player is on fire, it doesn’t matter if it’s PvT PvP PvZ. Like Squirtle is just winning at the moment, whether it’s PvT, PvP is not important. He’s just the best player at the moment, that’s the way it is. But I think PvP, you can choose your own approach to it. You can either just throw the dice every game, sometimes you win sometimes you lose, and then it’s just luck based. But, you can also do it like Oz does, like you choose certain maps, that build will work, that build will work. But a lot of players just choose 4gate – it might work, or I lose. So you can just choose your own way in it, I think.

Do you think Oz’s way is better and people will start playing that way more?

It depends, like Oz’s way will get the most win percentage, by far, and that’s what it’s all about. You can’t win every game.

Why don’t people play his way more? They aren’t confident, so they just want to flip instead?

It’s easier to flip, for one. And if you play the same style against the same player, then it will boil down to more things. Like, Oz has played the style a lot longer than other players, so I think they’re just not, well a lot of players just have the mindset like PvP is luck, why practice it?

Well, you have a very good PvP record. What do you think about yourself?

Uhh, I think I’m extremely good at reading my opponent, as I said like NesTea and so on. I prepare very well, when I played Genius and Puzzle in GSL, I watched every VOD they had played ever in GSL in PvP. And then I saw their traits, like how they scout, and what builds they like to use on certain maps and so on, and then I made my own builds. That’s one way that’s only going to work in the GSL.

That’s true.

It wouldn’t work on like a tournament, or whatever. It was a bit harder for me in Dreamhack, when I beat Genius 2-1. I lost a map, so it was way closer. But for first, I think they underestimated me a lot. I don’t think they prepared at all. For some reason, Genius thought it was a great idea to pick me.

I think the way it was working was, he wanted Maru, but MC convinced him to let him take Maru instead, and I think you’re probably like his top 3 pick maybe, and then he talked to other guys and it ended up that he couldn’t take his #1 pick and you were the highest pick he had left.

I don’t know. You can talk to him someday I hope, and you can ask him about it. I would love to know, haha.

Everyone said they wanted Maru, that’s all I know.

What I think is that he just wanted a foreigner, that’s what I think.

Makes sense.

Back to PvP. What I did was basically make counter-strategies to both players, their styles. Not like their builds, but their styles. I knew that Puzzle, he doesn’t expand. He plays a certain way, so I will do that instead, and it worked out. He did exactly what I thought he would. I was a bit nervous so I still dropped a game, but Genius I had no nerves. It was like, I want to prove myself because he picked me, obviously. I prepared extra for him. It’s like, I saw every VOD of him on Antiga Shipyard (that was our first map), and I saw that he always makes blink stalkers on Antiga, and he did here too. And he attacked me, and he lost his army. I kinda expected him to do that build. And, game 2, I made 4gate, he made 4gate. I started my gas quicker than him, I realized what was going on, and I made probes quicker. Basically, I just played the game that was the best way. He expanded, he took a bit of a risk, and he died, that’s it.

Alright, let's wrap up. Anything you want to say?

Sure, congrats to Sase for finally winning something [NASL Sunday Showdown vs PuMa]. I want to say exactly that, too. Good job beating Puma.

Oh, I had something I wanted to ask you. What’s up with the socks theft thing, with Parting?

Yeah, Parting. OK, so came to the Startale house, and then like apparently, some of the Koreans stole my socks when I was having them washed.

Why did they steal your socks?

I don’t know. I don’t know what happened. We have like a laundry box, and apparently they got mixed in with the Korean players’ laundry. And then I just took some random socks, and apparently they were his. So when I went to the GSL studio, he saw it, and he’s like, “what? You, socks steal!” And he got really angry, haha.

Socks are like the worst thing to steal. They’re like the last thing you care about.

Yeah, not for Parting man.

Ok, shout-outs.

Sase, good job winning something. Thanks to my mom and dad for seeing my games. I want to say that I’m sorry for not living up to my own hopes.

Oh, it’s Mother’s Day today.

I don’t know if that’s in Sweden though. I don’t think so.

Oh, that’s American? Ok, whatever.

I’m not sure. But if it is, then shoutout to my mom, haha.

Happy Mother’s Day, Naniwa’s mom!

And my father.

Also, thanks my team Quantic, and Razer for sponsoring us.

Finally, thanks to all the Swedes that support me. When I was playing this GSL, there were a lot of Swedes there. In the studio, in Korea. I want to say sorry for getting angry at one of them when I lost, haha. He came up to me, and he was like telling me it’s ok, but, obviously it’s not ok for me. But obviously, it’s not his fault. I want to still thank him for his support coming there, cheering me on and so forth. I hope I can do better the next time.

Interview: Waxangel
Transcription: Antoine
Photography: Silverfire
Graphics: HawaiianPig & shiroiusagi
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Muskox
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada87 Posts
May 16 2012 15:19 GMT
#2
I freaking love NaNiWa.
I accidentally the whole Overseers.
Scalepad
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden366 Posts
May 16 2012 15:19 GMT
#3
Nice interview!
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
May 16 2012 15:23 GMT
#4
Holy shit what a read, great interview, thx!
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 16 2012 15:24 GMT
#5
Naniwa is a pretty cool guy besides the whole stealing socks thing. Unforgivable.
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chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
May 16 2012 15:25 GMT
#6
Holy christ what a long and back-and-forth interview.... can't wait to read!!! mmm...
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
May 16 2012 15:28 GMT
#7
Dat insight. PvP especially.
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
May 16 2012 15:28 GMT
#8
I dont know but somehow IdrA was right. Nani looks like Peter Pettigrew :D
trwkling
Profile Joined September 2011
658 Posts
May 16 2012 15:30 GMT
#9
cheers for the nice interview!
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
May 16 2012 15:33 GMT
#10
Great interview
I put the fu in fun
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
May 16 2012 15:33 GMT
#11
This is a very good interview, thanks!
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Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
May 16 2012 15:34 GMT
#12
Great interview - very insightful from a code S level player.

I like how he told us about how he prepares.
TheRooster
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden719 Posts
May 16 2012 15:35 GMT
#13
So many great naniwa interviews recently ^^
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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
May 16 2012 15:36 GMT
#14
I see he still only recognizes his swedish fans only...
*shakes head
moo...for DRG
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
May 16 2012 15:38 GMT
#15
Amazing interview, so good to hear his thoughts about certain things. He's an interesting character for sure.
ZombieRitual
Profile Joined August 2011
United States121 Posts
May 16 2012 15:41 GMT
#16
People talk about how Naniwa is a difficult person to deal with, very cold, awkward, anti-social, etc. As a pro-gamer though, it's really easy to root for him because he just wants to win, straight up, no bullshit; he just wants to dominate. I keep liking him because of the same reasons Artosis gave on State of the Game after the EU Blizzcon Qualifier. Naniwa won $5,000 and took second place in an 8 man pool of some very good European talent, but up on the stage, receiving the awards, Naniwa was fucking pissed! He hadn't won, and taking second, despite being an great showing and winning money, it didn't matter! It's really easy to root for someone like that.
Maybe Naniwa won't give a shit about a fan like myself since I'm not Swedish, but seeing him win is great. I look forward to his continued success.
metharon
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden71 Posts
May 16 2012 15:45 GMT
#17
Awesome with a longer naniwa interview! Good job waxangel! :D
UpooPoo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States25 Posts
May 16 2012 15:48 GMT
#18
NaNiWa so boss
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
May 16 2012 15:49 GMT
#19
On May 17 2012 00:24 Fionn wrote:
Naniwa is a pretty cool guy besides the whole stealing socks thing. Unforgivable.

I had so much respect from him but now... there are just some lines a guy doesn't cross!!



♥♥♥ the interview thanks TL. Sounds like he learned so much from his run, hoping he can use that knowledge to make it farther next code S.

Naniwa Fighting!!!!
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
May 16 2012 15:50 GMT
#20
Did anyone else hear Nani's voice reading along with them lol

All of his responses are classic Nani
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
ErAsc2
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden256 Posts
May 16 2012 15:51 GMT
#21
Finally somebody telling the cold hard truth about TvP ^_^
Swedish GM Protoss http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2336142/1/MilkEA/
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 15:52:27
May 16 2012 15:52 GMT
#22
Oh hey, Naniwa claims PvT is T favored lategame, did not see that one comming.

Actually I did, nice interveiw anyways
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
May 16 2012 15:54 GMT
#23
Great interview! Naniwa is awesome.
Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
May 16 2012 15:54 GMT
#24
On May 17 2012 00:19 Muskox wrote:
I freaking love NaNiWa.


Yes. Yeeeeesssss.

Looking forward to his success next season.
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
May 16 2012 15:55 GMT
#25
NIce interview!
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 15:57:47
May 16 2012 15:56 GMT
#26
Sock theft should not be forgiven, I will be contacting quantic's sponsors over this behavior.
Glorious SEA doto
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
May 16 2012 15:57 GMT
#27
naniwa is being so honest here ^^
IM & EG supporter
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
May 16 2012 15:58 GMT
#28
I really hope to continue to see Naniwa and Sase fighting through consistently!
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
May 16 2012 15:58 GMT
#29
i always get motivated to practice more when I see or read Naniwa interviews, awesome guy and the perfect progamer
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
May 16 2012 15:58 GMT
#30
omg great interviw ^^,
SaSe fan club manager
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
May 16 2012 15:59 GMT
#31
King of the North Naniwa!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
May 16 2012 16:00 GMT
#32
Well, you see that Naniwa not raging is quite a person you can get along with. I allways liked his honesty, to himself and the community. He is great player with a great understanding of the game and a great sportive attitude. Therefor I like him and hope he does well in the future.
Ah yes and I think he's gonna be right with Stephano and Thorzain, don't expect too much out of them ;(.
Fluffeh
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden66 Posts
May 16 2012 16:01 GMT
#33
On May 17 2012 00:24 Fionn wrote:
Naniwa is a pretty cool guy besides the whole stealing socks thing. Unforgivable.


so bm
nth<3 Flash<3
inanotherlifetime
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden233 Posts
May 16 2012 16:04 GMT
#34
So many great Naniwa interviews lately! I really love how he stands out from most of the other progamers with the always politically correct answers. Lots of respect for his honesty <3
Lost & Confused <3 NaNiwa & SaSe
_iMpuLse
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6 Posts
May 16 2012 16:06 GMT
#35
Interesting read. Thanks for the interview.
Reality makes absolutely no sense.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 16:08:01
May 16 2012 16:06 GMT
#36
I'm gonna write a letter to his sponsors, i don't want them to support a sock stealer. Haha seriously though this interview was amazing! thanks everyone that made it happen
edit: damn of course i wasn't in time with that joke
edit2: and i think it's absolutely adorable that naniwa have to try so hard not to say anything that will make people riled up, i wonder if if some things got edited out!
SuperCarl
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden36 Posts
May 16 2012 16:07 GMT
#37
What an awesome meaty interview. So much cool insights and views on the state of the game and pro-gaming in general.

Naniwa är sista bossen.
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
May 16 2012 16:08 GMT
#38
Great interview. Naniwa fighting!

On May 17 2012 00:50 SwizzY wrote:
Did anyone else hear Nani's voice reading along with them lol

All of his responses are classic Nani


I did; I was going to ask the same thing until I saw this haha.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
May 16 2012 16:09 GMT
#39
That's easily the best interview that I've ever read on this site, and I'm extremely picky with stuff like this.

Seriously, what an awesome job!
elwoodng
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore438 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 16:10:51
May 16 2012 16:10 GMT
#40
Well it's obvious that Naniwa still has a lot of respect for the Protoss President, I remembered a long time ago that he said MC was the player he admired the most. I like both of them, so I hope they make up and be friends!
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 16:12:34
May 16 2012 16:10 GMT
#41
I find this long interview more interesting that the regular short ones, they have a lot more insight

I hope wax made more with coaches and GSL finalists

(I also hope we will have a video tour of TL house in Korea)
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
May 16 2012 16:10 GMT
#42
Wax, what an amazing interview. Sick read.
KookyMonster
Profile Joined January 2012
United States311 Posts
May 16 2012 16:10 GMT
#43
Naniwa comes off a little more friendly in this interview than in others I have read. Great read though. Stealing socks is still horribly immoral, lol.
Paper is Imba. Scissors is fine. -Rock
RosettaStone
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada12 Posts
May 16 2012 16:11 GMT
#44
Great interview, thanks!
Think for yourself, question authority
BlackCloud
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada154 Posts
May 16 2012 16:14 GMT
#45
great interview, really good to hear how seriously nani takes SC, he wants to win more than most people i think, he has the drive and the dedication thats needed, cant wait to watch him next Code S makes it soo entertaning having a clear player (forigner) your cheering for.
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
May 16 2012 16:18 GMT
#46
I realized I read it in his voice
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
hatespam
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania161 Posts
May 16 2012 16:18 GMT
#47
wish more interviews were like this
ask, and you shall have asked
hawliet
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Mexico112 Posts
May 16 2012 16:18 GMT
#48
naniwa <3
If you think you are good enough, you should presume what you want.- Naniwa
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 16 2012 16:22 GMT
#49
Good interview. Naniwa seems like a much nicer guy from this. Wish more pros would have this kind of long sit down talk, might help their rep.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
iNbluE
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland674 Posts
May 16 2012 16:23 GMT
#50
On May 17 2012 00:50 SwizzY wrote:
Did anyone else hear Nani's voice reading along with them lol

All of his responses are classic Nani


Definitely! :D
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
SaetZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States855 Posts
May 16 2012 16:26 GMT
#51
Great read! I love his attitude about the game and everything, even though he makes iffy decisions at times.


Full on support! Your the best Naniwa!
Never Forget. #TheRevolutionist
kranten
Profile Joined January 2012
Netherlands236 Posts
May 16 2012 16:26 GMT
#52
Great interview, he has a seed for code S next season right?
Peak123
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden29 Posts
May 16 2012 16:27 GMT
#53
Awesome interview
PuddingTiger
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom62 Posts
May 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#54
:D I hope the Swedish guy who he got mad at reads this, I thought that was a really sweet thing to do to apologise to a fan. I liked his attitude too, he was honest wtihout being disrespectful. Particularly re. Stephano - being sceptical about player's chances but saying you hope they prove you wrong is a good attitude to have.

Great interview
herrmus
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden144 Posts
May 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#55
hes a sociopath

User was warned for this post
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
May 16 2012 16:30 GMT
#56
I do really like his style of honesty no flittering around issues and no inflamitory statements because he can he just says what he really thinks. I also respect his attitude toward the game. Keep fighting Nani
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
Nukm_
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany104 Posts
May 16 2012 16:30 GMT
#57
sometimes i really like what naniwa is doing and talking about, sometimes i dont. as far as this interview goes, go nani! interesting read, good questions and good answers
EsMuyVien
Profile Joined July 2011
United States408 Posts
May 16 2012 16:31 GMT
#58
"You socks steal!"

LMBO ^_^
If what I think is happening is happening - it better not be.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
May 16 2012 16:32 GMT
#59
It's strange that NaNiwa is saying that Stephano is relying on timing when the latter said that he just feels the game. Maybe it was just him being cocky.

Anyway good interview.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44186 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 16:34:18
May 16 2012 16:33 GMT
#60
Awesome interview Thanks for this!

I like Naniwa's opinions. It was interesting to hear his evolution and comparison between GSL and other tournaments, and comparing other players.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
dingnz
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany15 Posts
May 16 2012 16:34 GMT
#61
Really interesting to hear so much about him "struggling" with the hidden part of the game and how he expects to be a better player, mentally, by his experiences in Korea. Really nice interview!
Dario "TLO" Wünsch ~ best person in eSports!
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
May 16 2012 16:37 GMT
#62
my respect for naniwa dropped like 9001 fold after hearing about him stealing socks. wtf.

Naniwa <3
Analysis
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands15 Posts
May 16 2012 16:37 GMT
#63
Awesome interview, thanks for the write up! Also, I hope he's wrong about thorzain and stephano, but I doubt it. I do think that thorzain can become a powerfull player when he's going to korea for a longer time though..
huh?
Pistoche
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada127 Posts
May 16 2012 16:38 GMT
#64
Dobby wanted some socks to be freed from his Korean overlords.

Great interview by the way, I love the honesty.
Winning isnt everything, its the only thing!
Ikkuh
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands170 Posts
May 16 2012 16:41 GMT
#65
Great interview
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4721 Posts
May 16 2012 16:42 GMT
#66
Definitely one of the better interviews out there. He had a lot of interesting things to say about the state of the game and how to approach tournaments. Thanks for doing the interview TL and Naniwa.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Sleed
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada181 Posts
May 16 2012 16:43 GMT
#67
This interview downgraded even more my opinion of this arrogant player. Implying that he is better than Mvp is just ...wahoo... so dishonest. No one doubted Mvp's play when he won tournaments after tournaments because he was so dominant. Nani's skills have never been impressive, he is just a solid and well rounded player (average at Korean level).
Then later adding that he is better than Stephano and Thorzain because of jealousy?, wrongly stating that Stephano is a timing player (clearly is description of DRG's play apply really well to Stephano as well).

For a time I thought Nani has grown up and mature, clearly I was wrong; he is still full of himself and dishonest.
paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
May 16 2012 16:44 GMT
#68
nani, Socke does not approve.
Pasargadae
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)173 Posts
May 16 2012 16:45 GMT
#69
On May 17 2012 01:43 Sleed wrote:
This interview downgraded even more my opinion of this arrogant player. Implying that he is better than Mvp is just ...wahoo... so dishonest. No one doubted Mvp's play when he won tournaments after tournaments because he was so dominant. Nani's skills have never been impressive, he is just a solid and well rounded player (average at Korean level).
Then later adding that he is better than Stephano and Thorzain because of jealousy?, wrongly stating that Stephano is a timing player (clearly is description of DRG's play apply really well to Stephano as well).

For a time I thought Nani has grown up and mature, clearly I was wrong; he is still full of himself and dishonest.


Shots fired.
Skaminator
Profile Joined October 2011
112 Posts
May 16 2012 16:47 GMT
#70
The skill part is pretty cocky as MVP owned him with CTS, but w/e no hate
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
May 16 2012 16:53 GMT
#71
"So you think Mvp, objectively, in terms of skill, you’re better than him"

Wow he didn't take the bait... Nani has learned (a bit).
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
May 16 2012 16:55 GMT
#72
I think I agree with his remark that Terran really late game is stronger than protoss when they establish planetary fortresses and are gaining minerals from mules because Protoss army is good for fighting armies but Archons and Colossus are not as good as taking down building as marauders and marines so when they have to attack into a PF it is hard. But prior to that Protoss is a lot stronger than Terran because of all the splash, but splash doesnt help against buildings.
Evil Geniuses<3
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
May 16 2012 16:56 GMT
#73
Loved the interview, thanks Waxangel!
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
May 16 2012 16:56 GMT
#74
Awesome, awesome interview, thanks very much.
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
May 16 2012 16:57 GMT
#75
On May 17 2012 01:43 Sleed wrote:
This interview downgraded even more my opinion of this arrogant player. Implying that he is better than Mvp is just ...wahoo... so dishonest. No one doubted Mvp's play when he won tournaments after tournaments because he was so dominant. Nani's skills have never been impressive, he is just a solid and well rounded player (average at Korean level).
Then later adding that he is better than Stephano and Thorzain because of jealousy?, wrongly stating that Stephano is a timing player (clearly is description of DRG's play apply really well to Stephano as well).

For a time I thought Nani has grown up and mature, clearly I was wrong; he is still full of himself and dishonest.


Dishonest? If anything Naniwa gets all the hate because he is 100% honest. Same thing as Idra. LMAO
Evil Geniuses<3
taniboy
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden28 Posts
May 16 2012 16:58 GMT
#76
awesome interview! thanks
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
May 16 2012 17:00 GMT
#77
Good stuff! Actually made me gain some knowledge
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
May 16 2012 17:05 GMT
#78
Awesome. See you in next GSL season; a fellow Faniwa.
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
May 16 2012 17:09 GMT
#79
That was a really good interview thanks for that
Write your own song!
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
May 16 2012 17:12 GMT
#80
Yeah, it was dangerously close to the "TL;DR" category, but was a great read, and loved every second of it.
"more gg, more skill"
Shardz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States349 Posts
May 16 2012 17:15 GMT
#81
To say that Squirtle is for sure a lot more skilled than Mvp is a very bold statement haha. I guess we will see during the finals XD.
Oh Hi
How2getMaster
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany124 Posts
May 16 2012 17:16 GMT
#82
Haha pretty funny thing with the socks

Greetings.
DiamondToss looking for a team :)
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
May 16 2012 17:18 GMT
#83
People who complain about the infamous tl;dr are just idiots who aren't able to read something for more than 5 minutes...
Who cares about the lenght, it was a great interview thanks to smart questions and a socks-thief who can answer without sounding generic and politically correct.

Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
Souljah
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 17:20:42
May 16 2012 17:19 GMT
#84
Great interview. Say what you want.. but e-sports needs a player like him. Controversial and speaks his mind. Plain and simple, he keeps us interested.
JeffVader
Profile Joined February 2011
United States79 Posts
May 16 2012 17:21 GMT
#85
Well, I must hand it to him for being authentic. He may not be the most politically correct or socially adept, but he speaks his mind and I respect that.

Great interview. I love content like this.
As if you could kill time without injuring eternity.
Noyect
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden129 Posts
May 16 2012 17:22 GMT
#86
Great interview. Next time you feel like it's getting too long, make a part 2 :D
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 16 2012 17:22 GMT
#87
On May 17 2012 01:53 diophan wrote:
"So you think Mvp, objectively, in terms of skill, you’re better than him"

Wow he didn't take the bait... Nani has learned (a bit).


I personally read his answer as "Yep".

It's unfortunate that community can be so obnoxious about these things if players answer straight up that they have to coat it like this. -_-
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
May 16 2012 17:26 GMT
#88
Great read.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
May 16 2012 17:26 GMT
#89
Definitely not TL;DR for me, I loved every bit of it. I read the whole thing and it was incredible. Naniwa is awesome.
chuckboris
Profile Joined November 2010
56 Posts
May 16 2012 17:26 GMT
#90
On May 17 2012 01:28 herrmus wrote:
hes a sociopath


Shouldn't people get banned for shit like this?

And to anyone who might share this kind of sentiment, you have no clue what sociopath means.


Also great, great interview! i feel almost weird calling it that, it was like a great focused conversation, and i don't mind at all that The interviewers personality was there, to make the 'interviewee' feel more comfortable. Sometimes yes/now questions about real world stuff, with an enormous attention and nitpicking on the answers, can make anyone seem caustic and god knows Nani has been a victim of this tendency.

What a nice guy he seems to be though, hope he rocks next code s!
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
May 16 2012 17:27 GMT
#91
Great interview lol. He doesn't want another non-korean shining like him lol.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 17:29:08
May 16 2012 17:27 GMT
#92
On May 17 2012 01:32 Otolia wrote:
It's strange that NaNiwa is saying that Stephano is relying on timing when the latter said that he just feels the game. Maybe it was just him being cocky.

Anyway good interview.


...He didn't mean timing attacks, he meant timing benchmarks to do X thing like a round of drones or a roach warren.

Waxangel just delivered some of the best eSports questions I've ever seen and NaNi gave juicy answers with a lot of insight. Can one ask for more than that?
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 16 2012 17:27 GMT
#93
On May 17 2012 02:22 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 01:53 diophan wrote:
"So you think Mvp, objectively, in terms of skill, you’re better than him"

Wow he didn't take the bait... Nani has learned (a bit).


I personally read his answer as "Yep".

It's unfortunate that community can be so obnoxious about these things if players answer straight up that they have to coat it like this. -_-


Since there's not really an objective way of distinguishing between skill factor and mental factor, it's really just a matter of opinion. We saw his opinion. And he showed 2 good games with MVP, notwithstanding 2 lulzy BO losses.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
lrofd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States187 Posts
May 16 2012 17:27 GMT
#94
"Stephano’s personality is really good, because if you don’t give a s***, you won’t get nervous'

LOL...
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
May 16 2012 17:27 GMT
#95
we should have the "new naniwa's hair cut" to illustrate that itw

quote for those who watch gomcam "lose his girlfriend"
if u wanna watch ;D
http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls2/gomcam/67502
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 16 2012 17:30 GMT
#96
Great interview. It's interesting to see how he works so hard on his mind to be able to improve as a competitor (does not know if this word exists in English). He has said what he thought, which made me like him.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
31415926535
Profile Joined May 2012
Switzerland276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 17:31:35
May 16 2012 17:31 GMT
#97
Really really nice interview. Love the no bullshit answers. And it's really nice to have an in-depth interview with well-thought questions and not just "will you win ? have you prepared ?".

And lol at the socks stealing thing.
Firenza
Profile Joined October 2011
United States51 Posts
May 16 2012 17:32 GMT
#98
TSL3 was the first pro SCII I followed, and I've been a huge Thorzain and Naniwa fan since. I've never understood the hate for Naniwa. None of his comments have ever really bothered me, although this interview does show how much he's matured over the last year as a pro-gamer.
Sargonian
Profile Joined February 2012
United States164 Posts
May 16 2012 17:32 GMT
#99
funny how everyone has been talking about late game PvT overpower and Naniwa just like, nope, orbitals, gg.
cichli
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden84 Posts
May 16 2012 17:32 GMT
#100
The sock thief in the north!
The Internet will not listen to reason
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
May 16 2012 17:33 GMT
#101
On May 17 2012 02:32 Sargonian wrote:
funny how everyone has been talking about late game PvT overpower and Naniwa just like, nope, orbitals, gg.

There is a difference between late game and super late game.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 16 2012 17:37 GMT
#102
stephano deserves more respect.

thanks for the interview wax!
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 17:03:52
May 16 2012 17:37 GMT
#103
Very good interview.

"but clearly I play this game not for the money, I think I’ve told everyone that several times. I only play to prove that I am the best, or whatever. So of course, if people say that someone is the best foreigner, then I want to prove them wrong. Unless it’s me, obviously. I hope eventually I will play Stephano, and ThorZaIN, and so on, and we can all decide once and for all."

So awesome...... always challenging everyone with a twinkle in his eye
Damn... Naniwa is such a unique person in every way, wow, I LOVE HIM :')))!!!! There's no player like him and I guess there never will be.

Additional thoughts:
In the end of the day, when all smoke clears our, there is only truth, and I think thats how he lives. He can admit if he's shit, admit protoss is imba on some map, criticize himself in every regard if he knows so, or give credit to anyone where credit is due (regardless what he thinks of the PERSON). I respect that more than anything.

---
Btw, by thanking Swedish fans does not imply saying "fu" to anyone not Swedish... keep that in mind. Do not assume what is not said .
I know he deeply appreciates all true fans, not caring where you live, who you are, or what language you speak.
On May 17 2012 22:27 Naniwa wrote:
i didnt mean to only thank my swedish fans, i meant in perticular since there was so many of them there at the GSL studio ! i appriciate all my fans



<3 Naniwa <3
(:
Solo Terran
Profile Joined November 2011
367 Posts
May 16 2012 17:41 GMT
#104
I'm going to have to start making Planetaries everywhere :D.

Good read I hope he does well next season.
fr4nk1sh
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden59 Posts
May 16 2012 17:43 GMT
#105
Thanks great read ! gogo Nani
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
May 16 2012 17:44 GMT
#106
Love naniwas interviews, such an honest guy and I find I agree with him 95% of the time too.
Orval
Profile Joined February 2012
Norway236 Posts
May 16 2012 17:47 GMT
#107
Incredibly good interview, felt really personal and honest. Good job.
InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
May 16 2012 17:53 GMT
#108
Great interview! Thanks
Stork protoss legend
dnld12
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
May 16 2012 17:55 GMT
#109
Naniwa is growing up to be a real baller :D
When life gives you Stalkers, Get blink.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 16 2012 18:07 GMT
#110
I lost all my respect for Naniwa knowing he's a socks burglar !

Just kidding, sick interview, gogo Nani <3

PS : Nani, stop thinking all your fans are swedes
Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
May 16 2012 18:11 GMT
#111
Thanks for the interview!
I am here in the shadows.
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
May 16 2012 18:12 GMT
#112
Take home message:

- All other foreingers are basically trash, especially Stephano who is "an average zerg"
- Nani is better than MVP, who is a lucky guy
- Contrary to popular belief, TvP lategame is in fact easier for terran

He is such a brilliant troll. I love it.

Good player too.
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
May 16 2012 18:12 GMT
#113
Nice interview!
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
May 16 2012 18:16 GMT
#114
On May 17 2012 03:07 MrCon wrote:
I lost all my respect for Naniwa knowing he's a socks burglar !

Just kidding, sick interview, gogo Nani <3

PS : Nani, stop thinking all your fans are swedes


My swedish citizenship is going well, I WILL BE RECOGNIZED.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
May 16 2012 18:16 GMT
#115
Awesome interview.

Surprised to see not a lot of respect for MVP's skills... I guess his injuries have slowed him alot.
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
May 16 2012 18:21 GMT
#116
Pretty good, he sounded really realistic. GL next season!
Mmm, what to watch.
michielbrands
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1146 Posts
May 16 2012 18:24 GMT
#117
Damn Naniwa keeps me amazed This dude is gold :D Very nice and insightfull interview
- me (L) competitive gaming -
teamhozac
Profile Joined April 2012
404 Posts
May 16 2012 18:25 GMT
#118
What a whiner, not giving MVP ANY credit for his wins, this guy is the epitome of pathetic
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 16 2012 18:27 GMT
#119
you just don't steal another man's socks and then wear them Socks are like underwear, personal and for 1 person only

Good read though.
decerto
Profile Joined November 2011
244 Posts
May 16 2012 18:28 GMT
#120
So much insight in this interview, he basically just explained why the koreans are better.

"Basically, I placed well and beat good enough players to claim that I am pretty good. And if I don’t have confidence in myself, then no one else will either, so I have to at least, even if I do suck – which I hope I don’t – I have to believe that I’m good at least."
is an amazing quote
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
May 16 2012 18:28 GMT
#121
Are there any other interviewers other than Waxangel? Perhaps try out a rotation and evaluate them internally?
WellPlayed.org <3
michielbrands
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 18:29:06
May 16 2012 18:28 GMT
#122
On May 17 2012 03:12 d00p wrote:
Take home message:

- All other foreingers are basically trash, especially Stephano who is "an average zerg"
- Nani is better than MVP, who is a lucky guy
- Contrary to popular belief, TvP lategame is in fact easier for terran

He is such a brilliant troll. I love it.

Good player too.


Why taking everything he says and make it something completly else:
- He says Stephano is extremly good in timing attacks, but is a lot less good when someone messes up his gameplan/timings
- He said his raw SC2 skills are about the same level as MVP, but MVP's mental skills/experience make him the better player and that's the reason he lost.
- He says REAL late game is in easier for terran in which he says when terrans can donate all their scv's and work on OC's / mules only and spend all other unit size on army... Which makes sense because in those cases Terran good 40food bigger army's then zerg of protoss
- me (L) competitive gaming -
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
May 16 2012 18:29 GMT
#123
Thanks for the interview, that was the best one i've read so far in 2012, it really gives a new perspective on Naniwa, I learnt a lot and gained a lot of respect for Naniwa.
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
May 16 2012 18:30 GMT
#124
Raining NaNi interviews these days, I like it!
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
May 16 2012 18:30 GMT
#125
bloody sockstealing
High Risk Low Reward
pzu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden287 Posts
May 16 2012 18:34 GMT
#126
I have always had great troublems accepting naniwa due to his awkward behaviour in interviews, rude comments about other players etc, even though im swedish and should "support him by heard" and all that jazz... But after reading this interview, my respect for him grew quite a bit. GG~
Great interview, keep em coming
MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 18:38:35
May 16 2012 18:37 GMT
#127
He should gift wrap swedish flag style socks and send them to parting .

I like how honest his answers always are.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
May 16 2012 18:38 GMT
#128
im curious who he thinks are the top 5 players of each race or of atleast protoss
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1356 Posts
May 16 2012 18:42 GMT
#129
On May 17 2012 03:28 michielbrands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 03:12 d00p wrote:
Take home message:

- All other foreingers are basically trash, especially Stephano who is "an average zerg"
- Nani is better than MVP, who is a lucky guy
- Contrary to popular belief, TvP lategame is in fact easier for terran

He is such a brilliant troll. I love it.

Good player too.


Why taking everything he says and make it something completly else:
- He says Stephano is extremly good in timing attacks, but is a lot less good when someone messes up his gameplan/timings
- He said his raw SC2 skills are about the same level as MVP, but MVP's mental skills/experience make him the better player and that's the reason he lost.
- He says REAL late game is in easier for terran in which he says when terrans can donate all their scv's and work on OC's / mules only and spend all other unit size on army... Which makes sense because in those cases Terran good 40food bigger army's then zerg of protoss


he stated stephano was predictable, the same player who lost with FFE vs the all in builds Leenock did multiple time at the MLG because Naniwa was always doing the same build ? Stephano has a sick sick decision making its not only a perfect timing player at all...
GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
May 16 2012 18:48 GMT
#130
I've never really cared much about Naniwa, purely because he's been off my radar.

But after performing so well and giving such a straight up, honest interview WITHOUT stepping on anyone's toes, I feel like I've been missing out on being a Naniwa fan.

Is he my new favourite player? No, sorry. But he's definitely top 5


(Also, anyone claiming Naniwa sounded arrogant in this interview is stupid, and should stop reading things that aren't said)
In retrospect, I don't know how you can play StarCraft without swearing. - Eifer
reki-
Profile Joined July 2008
Netherlands327 Posts
May 16 2012 18:48 GMT
#131
Dont let it boil down to this back and forth bullshit conversations about 3 lines in the entire interview...


Nice interview and i hope nani goes further next gsl
>BD
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 16 2012 18:56 GMT
#132
Insightful stuff!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
May 16 2012 18:57 GMT
#133
Waxangel -- the bonjwa of complicatedly formulated questions.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
AlexanderSC2
Profile Joined January 2012
United States7 Posts
May 16 2012 18:59 GMT
#134
This was one long interview, but i hope the best for naniwa. I still think he has alot to work on and maybe going back to korea would help him. i dont think he got enough out of his korean experience for it to be worth it
nmetasch
Profile Joined April 2012
United States600 Posts
May 16 2012 18:59 GMT
#135
This has got to be the most insightful and honest interview I've ever read on Teamliquid! This gives an amazing breadth of insight into mental preparation for matches like those in the GSL. Great interview, thanks!
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
May 16 2012 18:59 GMT
#136
I love this guy.
@nowSimon
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
May 16 2012 19:00 GMT
#137
The nan on his best behavior.
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
May 16 2012 19:01 GMT
#138
SOCKS STEALER ftw!!!
great view
No carpal tunnel no skill
Hilo
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia114 Posts
May 16 2012 19:01 GMT
#139
I was like ... TL-DR .. but then I suddenly read all the text and it was fun
MountainGoat
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States507 Posts
May 16 2012 19:01 GMT
#140
Kind of funny that Naniwa has the opposite opinion on TvP that everyone else seems to have.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 16 2012 19:05 GMT
#141
Naniwa seems to have a lot of trouble articulating his thoughts in a straightfoward manner.

He's a fantastic player, I really like his winner's mindset, and I sympathize a lot of times with him when things go awry for him but,

+ Show Spoiler +
he seems socially retarded. I hope Naniwa can mature as a person so he can be a great player and someone who isn't talked down on.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
May 16 2012 19:06 GMT
#142
excellent interview, thank you!
ffxiv enjoyer
MarinePrince
Profile Joined October 2011
United States101 Posts
May 16 2012 19:10 GMT
#143
Naniwa is my foreign HerO.
"Weakness of attitude becomes weakness of character." - Albert Einstein
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
May 16 2012 19:14 GMT
#144
On May 17 2012 02:15 Shardz wrote:
To say that Squirtle is for sure a lot more skilled than Mvp is a very bold statement haha. I guess we will see during the finals XD.

I think stupid is a better term than bold here.
Alexj
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Ukraine440 Posts
May 16 2012 19:16 GMT
#145
Wow, one of the best interviews ever
More GGs, more skill
Tojatara
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland17 Posts
May 16 2012 19:25 GMT
#146
This interview...good, interesting, deep-diggind questions, no fluff. Thing of beatuy, great job!
Dirtysocks
Profile Joined August 2011
Czech Republic68 Posts
May 16 2012 19:25 GMT
#147
I am dirty, but I hope he will steal me!
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
May 16 2012 19:25 GMT
#148
On May 17 2012 01:10 elwoodng wrote:
Well it's obvious that Naniwa still has a lot of respect for the Protoss President, I remembered a long time ago that he said MC was the player he admired the most. I like both of them, so I hope they make up and be friends!

I think MC stated clearly he doesn't like Naniwa at all.
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
May 16 2012 19:30 GMT
#149
that was a very good interview. thanks
R3DT1D3
Profile Joined January 2012
285 Posts
May 16 2012 19:31 GMT
#150
Great interview. I laughed about his PvT super late game comment though. PF's are the mass spine equivalent for Terran except Terran doesn't have a unit like broodlords to stall for. Orbitals letting you have higher supply is helpful but splash and warpgates still diminish the advantage.

Which reminds me, Protoss players need to spam more gateways/robos late game when they're banking so much money.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 16 2012 19:31 GMT
#151
Love NaNiwa! Thanks for the awesome interview.
gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
May 16 2012 19:31 GMT
#152
I feel like naniwa has a good chance to become flash of SC2. By like mentality, practice scedule and like they both are robots. Naniwa.. I LOVE YOU!!! Never willI I stop and never will I stop believing in you!!
Not even death can save you from me.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
May 16 2012 19:36 GMT
#153
lol @ the super-late game TvP comment. It's like saying Protoss is Imba super SUPER late game when they get 20 Carriers+Mothership. Well no shit, but good luck getting there alive.
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
May 16 2012 19:40 GMT
#154
Wax has to go to Korea more often :D
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
May 16 2012 19:43 GMT
#155
Naniwa used to be my favorite, then I find out he's a fucking sock thief?!?!

Haha all kidding aside, I love naniwa and this was a great interview. I feel that he has matured since he did his first interviews, thank you for the awesome interview waxangel!
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
DNA61289
Profile Joined August 2010
United States665 Posts
May 16 2012 19:44 GMT
#156
A really good interview, thanks!
But yeah being a Korean gamer is very imba. If you're a non-korean gamer you have to balance your game playing with earning money and your real life. If you're Korean you just sit around playing games all day eating 2 cent ramyun and becoming gosu.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 19:47:09
May 16 2012 19:46 GMT
#157
Sick Incontrol reference in the spotlight.

Good interview too. :D
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
May 16 2012 19:52 GMT
#158
Damn S class interview there. The best SC2 interview I've read yet. Absolutely awesome work and thanks for putting the time into it Nani!

"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
][Primarch][
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden302 Posts
May 16 2012 19:53 GMT
#159
On May 17 2012 03:12 d00p wrote:
Take home message:

- All other foreingers are basically trash, especially Stephano who is "an average zerg"
- Nani is better than MVP, who is a lucky guy
- Contrary to popular belief, TvP lategame is in fact easier for terran

He is such a brilliant troll. I love it.

Good player too.


Yeah lol sick post!

Well it's the usual bullcrap from Naniwa but hey I'm still a fan at the end of the day :D

Cheers
Huge fan of Empire Kas, The Destroyer of Worlds, The Machine, The Second Terminator, The Supreme Robot!
Space Invader
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia291 Posts
May 16 2012 19:53 GMT
#160
On May 17 2012 00:24 Fionn wrote:
Naniwa is a pretty cool guy besides the whole stealing socks thing. Unforgivable.

I may be of thome athithtanthe if there ith a thudden crithith!
TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 19:54:56
May 16 2012 19:54 GMT
#161
I don't really like NaniWa but he showed a different side in this interview, than what I was used to.

Great interview, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
IM.Nestea | IM.MvP | MvP.DongRaeGu. | Genius | ST.Parting I SlayerS.MMA
KellRell
Profile Joined December 2010
United States12 Posts
May 16 2012 19:54 GMT
#162
Thus far, the extent of my girlfriend's involvement in Starcraft II has been going down to MLG Columbus 2012 with me and she now only knows NaNiwa as, "the guy with the Victoria's Secret pants..."
infinitum
Profile Joined April 2011
United States83 Posts
May 16 2012 20:02 GMT
#163
I agree with Naniwa about almost everything in here, including about Thorzain, and I have been a rabid Thorzain fan from day 1. Prove us wrong, Thorzain!
Everything you know was forged from the remnants of a supernova.
NET
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States703 Posts
May 16 2012 20:16 GMT
#164
Haha pretty funny interview. Thanks for it.
"Dark Templar are the saviors of the Protoss Race." -Artosis
PAYBACK-SXE
Profile Joined April 2011
United States150 Posts
May 16 2012 20:16 GMT
#165
love this.
PAYBACK ABOVE ALL ELSE
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
May 16 2012 20:22 GMT
#166
Great interview Waxangel, thanks to Naniwa for being honest and straight up. Laughed when I read about the swedish fan attempting to console him after his loss in the GSL, pretty sure most people can relate to that sort of situation, too soon!
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
May 16 2012 20:25 GMT
#167
On May 17 2012 02:33 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 02:32 Sargonian wrote:
funny how everyone has been talking about late game PvT overpower and Naniwa just like, nope, orbitals, gg.

There is a difference between late game and super late game.

Yeah, I understood that as a reference to the extreme late game, where both players have tons of bases and the map is getting closed to mined out. In that situation I do think Terran has an advantage since we can mine minerals faster and our core units in the matchup are mostly mineral heavy. Also Terran units tend to be better in small numbers.

The trouble is managing to trade armies evenly enough to get to that point.
scampioen
Profile Joined May 2012
Belgium55 Posts
May 16 2012 20:28 GMT
#168
Very nice interview! Made me like Naniwa even more.
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
May 16 2012 20:32 GMT
#169
Sock steal? ahahaha.

Great interview enjoyed the insight thoroughly
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
May 16 2012 20:34 GMT
#170
saying protoss and zerg have more potential then terran when all the koreans say otherwise is a bit off
savior did nothing wrong
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
May 16 2012 20:37 GMT
#171
Best StarCraft 2 interview I have read by far.
Thank God and gunrun.
show.me
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden37 Posts
May 16 2012 20:39 GMT
#172
Great interview Waxangel, was really nice to have you pick his brains
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
May 16 2012 20:40 GMT
#173
That's an awesome interview. Interesting position, though, that there is lategame PvT matchup that favors T...whatever, I'm not the pro-gamer :p.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
May 16 2012 20:43 GMT
#174
Im not the guy that will support a guy just because he's from sweden but I support you Naniwa! It's obvious you just want to be really good at this game for real and I like that, good luck to you.

Great interview.
INTOtheVOID
Profile Joined January 2012
United States225 Posts
May 16 2012 20:46 GMT
#175
WHAT? YOU, SOCKS STEAL!!!!
Pink Floyd's music is like a beautiful girl walking down the street who won't talk to you.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
May 16 2012 20:51 GMT
#176
That was a great read.

Naniwa the Sock Puppet master!
Halation
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States60 Posts
May 16 2012 20:52 GMT
#177
Naniwa is so awesome!! Keep it up dude!
Requiem Esports
Clafou
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium921 Posts
May 16 2012 20:53 GMT
#178
Excellent interview!

And this :

Socks are like the worst thing to steal. They’re like the last thing you care about.

Yeah, not for Parting man.


is pure gold :D
bananajk
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany92 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 20:59:16
May 16 2012 20:56 GMT
#179
He stole socks? Let's email his sponsors about it.
It's so funny, I actually read the whole interview in NaNiWa voice without even realising :D
He is just my favourite e-sport personallity.
fragster.de | [F_]ragster
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
May 16 2012 20:58 GMT
#180
I hate how he says squirtle is just way above MVP in natural skill. LOLZ, if he were why did he only now get to finals?
esports
Exya
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada54 Posts
May 16 2012 21:00 GMT
#181
TS;MT

too short more text :D!! great interview loved reading from start to end
BotStyle
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1 Post
May 16 2012 21:02 GMT
#182
Great interview! Thanks
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
May 16 2012 21:04 GMT
#183
naniwa, awesome personality, while drama inducing at times, is still one of the purest forms and you have to love him for it. naniwa fighting!
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
May 16 2012 21:08 GMT
#184
On May 17 2012 03:28 decerto wrote:
So much insight in this interview, he basically just explained why the koreans are better.

"Basically, I placed well and beat good enough players to claim that I am pretty good. And if I don’t have confidence in myself, then no one else will either, so I have to at least, even if I do suck – which I hope I don’t – I have to believe that I’m good at least."
is an amazing quote

Thats indeed an amazing quote. Its something thats as true in SC2 as it is true in everything else in life.

Great interview. It was really a good read.
4649!!
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
May 16 2012 21:14 GMT
#185
On May 17 2012 00:50 SwizzY wrote:
Did anyone else hear Nani's voice reading along with them lol

All of his responses are classic Nani


All this needs is "mmm..." substituted before every one of his answers, and he'll sound exactly like he does in interviews as he does in my head while reading this.
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
May 16 2012 21:15 GMT
#186
such a good interview. gained a lot of respect for naniwa reading this.
http://www.twitch.tv/corpsep0se
Kohonski
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States150 Posts
May 16 2012 21:16 GMT
#187
On May 17 2012 05:58 Luepert wrote:
I hate how he says squirtle is just way above MVP in natural skill. LOLZ, if he were why did he only now get to finals?


He explained that in the interview.
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
May 16 2012 21:19 GMT
#188
On May 17 2012 00:50 SwizzY wrote:
Did anyone else hear Nani's voice reading along with them lol

All of his responses are classic Nani


Yeah, he has the kind of voice that really sticks inside your head.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
May 16 2012 21:22 GMT
#189
So Terran is overpowered in the lategame for NaniWa?
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
beatitudes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States167 Posts
May 16 2012 21:25 GMT
#190
good interviews, mostly the part about the preparation the koreans go through. good insight. although i was like o.O when nani said he doesn't play greedy.
<3
Veclada
Profile Joined September 2010
742 Posts
May 16 2012 21:31 GMT
#191
all swearing is so unproffessional, good interview anyways
asdfg
Nightshake
Profile Joined November 2010
France412 Posts
May 16 2012 21:32 GMT
#192
Good read.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
May 16 2012 21:32 GMT
#193
Naniwa probably gave the best interview I've ever seen.
FoTG fighting!
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2801 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 21:36:51
May 16 2012 21:36 GMT
#194
Guys, you are going to have to forgive me for posting this, but am I the only one that remembered this upon seeing the picture?

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flagg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden123 Posts
May 16 2012 21:40 GMT
#195
Thanks TL and Waxangel!
ShiNwave
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom41 Posts
May 16 2012 21:42 GMT
#196
On May 17 2012 05:58 Luepert wrote:
I hate how he says squirtle is just way above MVP in natural skill. LOLZ, if he were why did he only now get to finals?


If you would read his post, like 2/3 of this interview is on the importance of the "mentality" aspect rather than pure skill.
ShiNwave.944 @ Eu
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
May 16 2012 21:43 GMT
#197
Very interesting interview. I really enjoyed it. I'm not a fan of Naniwa, but I like that he doesnt just give out standard responses, like so many other players do, but says what he actually feels, always makes his interviews interesting to read imo.
yaxv
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark50 Posts
May 16 2012 21:53 GMT
#198
This is a really good interview. He's still the good ol' naniwa as we know. :-)
Ohyra
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden59 Posts
May 16 2012 22:03 GMT
#199
Jesus.. Very well played thus far naniwa! really. I enjoy watching you play and cheer for you being a swede and all. But you really need to grow up a bit and not take things too hard. Really, flaming someone in the audience? Think, don't just react. Keep putting sweden on the map! Much love!
Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
May 16 2012 22:05 GMT
#200
I just want to chime in. Great interview and Naniwa is the fucking man!
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
May 16 2012 22:11 GMT
#201
Very good interview. Top class.
O_ovPvo_O-SNAKE
Profile Joined April 2012
United States11 Posts
May 16 2012 22:11 GMT
#202
Naniwa seems alright though he wont last vs Korean players(especially once BW pros come onto the stage) , maybe best foreigner, maybe but not (Korean) S class.

Seems like a jerk too telling off his own fans that came all the way from Sweden. tisk tisk
And a sock thief bad decisions mate, need to work on your timing.
"Let the Wookie win"
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
May 16 2012 22:14 GMT
#203
Are you serious?

I lost "its luck"
I won "its skill"

wow. just wow.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
May 16 2012 22:16 GMT
#204
ehh...maybe it's just my bias but it seems like he kinda shits on a few top players and came pretty close to calling himself more skilled than MVP in that one question, at which point I would have just lost it.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
May 16 2012 22:17 GMT
#205
sock toss!
byah!
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 16 2012 22:35 GMT
#206
Everytime I learn more about Naniwa I like him more. This is just like what TLO was saying about having to readjust your goal every time you win; I really respect that.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4495 Posts
May 16 2012 22:41 GMT
#207
On May 17 2012 07:14 hkf wrote:
Are you serious?

I lost "its luck"
I won "its skill"

wow. just wow.

Amazing reading comprehension.
wow. just wow.


hi. big fan.
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
May 16 2012 22:51 GMT
#208
Great interview.
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
May 16 2012 23:03 GMT
#209
Not the biggest Naniwa fan, but I think he conducted himself very well in this interview. He got a good balance between honestly and courtesy; said it like it is while not disrespecting anyone. I think overall Naniwa is a much more mature person now, he's got a better mindset and can really focus on his game rather than getting caught up in stupid off field stuff.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 16 2012 23:07 GMT
#210
Somebody should probably kill Naniwa for stealing those socks. Its just straight up not cool. To arms, reddit!
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
May 16 2012 23:22 GMT
#211
Love you Nani!
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
May 16 2012 23:24 GMT
#212
Great stuff Waxangel, with Hot_Bid as the interviewer you don't get the spotlight you deserve.
I am not good with quotes
hnim
Profile Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
May 16 2012 23:42 GMT
#213
Mvp's mentality is certainly to his advantage, but to imply he isn't one of the most purely skilled players in the scene is absurd.
Mvp fanboy
rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
May 16 2012 23:46 GMT
#214
Really great interview; thanks Waxangel!
eating corn while thinking about eating more corn
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 16 2012 23:57 GMT
#215
Thanks for the interview.

I think Naniwa's starting to grow on me a little.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 17 2012 00:05 GMT
#216
I would be more inclined to agree with Naniwa's idea that Mvp is really good at preparing and that's why he wins in gsl if he had not won an MLG and Blizzcon or got 4th in providence coming from the open bracket.
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 00:09:39
May 17 2012 00:08 GMT
#217
still not allowed to say s**** in united states, really? Mhh strange, thx for interview.
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
May 17 2012 00:17 GMT
#218
"You, sock steal!"

LOL

What kind of a sick monster are you, Naniwa?
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
tskarzyn
Profile Joined July 2010
United States516 Posts
May 17 2012 00:18 GMT
#219
Life on planet Naniwa.

Naniwa's skill level > MVP's

"Super late game" favors Terran.

Zerg imba after ovie patch.

Everyone else is bad, he is good. Oh wait, except Squirtle. Squirtle is the best in the world right now.

Whatever he is smoking, give me double!
Chromodoris
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden136 Posts
May 17 2012 00:22 GMT
#220
We have Mother's Day in Sweden too, only on a different date. 27 May this year.
♥ ThorZaIN.
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
May 17 2012 00:29 GMT
#221
On May 17 2012 09:18 tskarzyn wrote:
Life on planet Naniwa.
Naniwa's skill level > MVP's
"Super late game" favors Terran.
Zerg imba after ovie patch.
Everyone else is bad, he is good. Oh wait, except Squirtle. Squirtle is the best in the world right now.
Whatever he is smoking, give me double!


Surely you are already smoking something far heavier than anyone else in order to extrapolate and exaggerate expressed opinions in such a way to make them untrue and add statements which was not expressed? o_O
(:
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
May 17 2012 00:59 GMT
#222
Why are people interpreting his words when they're there clear as can be. It's not like a translation from Klingon to English, you have all his answers in clear text. It's like those doing it need to dumb down his speech into something they can comprehend.

Anyways, glad to get pro insight.
Hey! How you doin'?
SecondHand
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States329 Posts
May 17 2012 01:00 GMT
#223
On May 17 2012 09:29 zanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 09:18 tskarzyn wrote:
Life on planet Naniwa.
Naniwa's skill level > MVP's
"Super late game" favors Terran.
Zerg imba after ovie patch.
Everyone else is bad, he is good. Oh wait, except Squirtle. Squirtle is the best in the world right now.
Whatever he is smoking, give me double!


Surely you are already smoking something far heavier than anyone else in order to extrapolate and exaggerate expressed opinions in such a way to make them untrue and add statements which was not expressed? o_O


Naniwa was definitely smoking something during the interview. Mvp beat the best PvT player in the world in Parting, and super late game absolutely favors protoss. I don't know how many games I have watched a terran get a 60 supply advantage and then lose.. But its too many. And the zerg ovie isn't imba, its the queen range thats the problem.. lol
Ladder more, win less
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
May 17 2012 01:15 GMT
#224
On May 17 2012 05:56 bananajk wrote:
He stole socks? Let's email his sponsors about it.
It's so funny, I actually read the whole interview in NaNiWa voice without even realising :D
He is just my favourite e-sport personallity.


I lol'd.
I hope he can repeat his recent GSL performance soon.
pOnarreT
Profile Joined March 2012
155 Posts
May 17 2012 01:49 GMT
#225
On May 17 2012 10:00 ILuMiNaTe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 09:29 zanga wrote:
On May 17 2012 09:18 tskarzyn wrote:
Life on planet Naniwa.
Naniwa's skill level > MVP's
"Super late game" favors Terran.
Zerg imba after ovie patch.
Everyone else is bad, he is good. Oh wait, except Squirtle. Squirtle is the best in the world right now.
Whatever he is smoking, give me double!


Surely you are already smoking something far heavier than anyone else in order to extrapolate and exaggerate expressed opinions in such a way to make them untrue and add statements which was not expressed? o_O


Naniwa was definitely smoking something during the interview. Mvp beat the best PvT player in the world in Parting, and super late game absolutely favors protoss. I don't know how many games I have watched a terran get a 60 supply advantage and then lose.. But its too many. And the zerg ovie isn't imba, its the queen range thats the problem.. lol



Leave it to Terrans to start the whine-fest
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
May 17 2012 01:59 GMT
#226
Great interview, really in depth and honest. I like it also how it branched out into a bunch of other players too.
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
hillman
Profile Joined February 2012
United States162 Posts
May 17 2012 02:25 GMT
#227
He seems way more humble after the multiple code a losses....its has done him some good I think, because he is inherently confident, and now he has opened himself up to accepting faults or something...he's going to stick around in GSL with that attitude (I hope at least)...
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
May 17 2012 02:38 GMT
#228
Always thought he was a dick and shallow, but seems like he's a fun and thoughtful and smart guy Good Job NaNiwa
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 03:17:33
May 17 2012 03:16 GMT
#229
On May 17 2012 09:18 tskarzyn wrote:
Life on planet Naniwa.

Naniwa's skill level > MVP's

"Super late game" favors Terran.

Zerg imba after ovie patch.

Everyone else is bad, he is good. Oh wait, except Squirtle. Squirtle is the best in the world right now.

Whatever he is smoking, give me double!


Why? He backed up everything he said with good arguments. He's probably the best foreign sc2 player in the world and he made it to the ro8 in the GSL, don't you think his opinion carries any weight?

I get the impression people just aren't reading the interview. He clearly explains how much he thinks the mindset part of sc2 plays a very important role. He never says thats a bad thing. He even says Nestea isn't the 'fastest' player, but he has the best gameplay and he respects that.

Seriously guys. Don't browse interviews and post moronic comments, its boring.

And for the record, he says 'super late game.' If a Terran can sack all but 10 of his SCV's, don't you think thats going to be hard to beat, even if Toss is 'imba' late game? Hmmm?
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Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
May 17 2012 03:33 GMT
#230
God... took me 20mins to read that, should've been sleeping by now ><
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-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
May 17 2012 03:38 GMT
#231
On May 17 2012 12:16 Trowa127 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 09:18 tskarzyn wrote:
Life on planet Naniwa.

Naniwa's skill level > MVP's

"Super late game" favors Terran.

Zerg imba after ovie patch.

Everyone else is bad, he is good. Oh wait, except Squirtle. Squirtle is the best in the world right now.

Whatever he is smoking, give me double!


Why? He backed up everything he said with good arguments. He's probably the best foreign sc2 player in the world and he made it to the ro8 in the GSL, don't you think his opinion carries any weight?

I get the impression people just aren't reading the interview. He clearly explains how much he thinks the mindset part of sc2 plays a very important role. He never says thats a bad thing. He even says Nestea isn't the 'fastest' player, but he has the best gameplay and he respects that.

Seriously guys. Don't browse interviews and post moronic comments, its boring.

And for the record, he says 'super late game.' If a Terran can sack all but 10 of his SCV's, don't you think thats going to be hard to beat, even if Toss is 'imba' late game? Hmmm?


Um yes its known by most pros that in super late game when terran has very high ghost count (20+) and 40+ army supply from running on mainly mules, with just scvs for gas, it IS terran favoured without a question.
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
May 17 2012 04:12 GMT
#232
On May 17 2012 12:38 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 12:16 Trowa127 wrote:
On May 17 2012 09:18 tskarzyn wrote:
Life on planet Naniwa.

Naniwa's skill level > MVP's

"Super late game" favors Terran.

Zerg imba after ovie patch.

Everyone else is bad, he is good. Oh wait, except Squirtle. Squirtle is the best in the world right now.

Whatever he is smoking, give me double!


Why? He backed up everything he said with good arguments. He's probably the best foreign sc2 player in the world and he made it to the ro8 in the GSL, don't you think his opinion carries any weight?

I get the impression people just aren't reading the interview. He clearly explains how much he thinks the mindset part of sc2 plays a very important role. He never says thats a bad thing. He even says Nestea isn't the 'fastest' player, but he has the best gameplay and he respects that.

Seriously guys. Don't browse interviews and post moronic comments, its boring.

And for the record, he says 'super late game.' If a Terran can sack all but 10 of his SCV's, don't you think thats going to be hard to beat, even if Toss is 'imba' late game? Hmmm?


Um yes its known by most pros that in super late game when terran has very high ghost count (20+) and 40+ army supply from running on mainly mules, with just scvs for gas, it IS terran favoured without a question.


I know, read what I said. I'm agreeing with you.
Bling, MC, Snute, HwangSin, Deranging (<3) fan. 'Full name - ESP ORTS' Vote hotbid. Vote ESPORTS.
Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
May 17 2012 04:35 GMT
#233
Great interview, thanks Naniwa! gl in GSL next season!
Thanks TL and wax as always ^^
ratpac
Profile Joined May 2012
14 Posts
May 17 2012 07:39 GMT
#234
I love that he apologized to the fan. He knows he can trash talk all he wants, but it's almost impossible to pull off trash talking to the fans.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
May 17 2012 08:20 GMT
#235
only protoss players are good players apparently.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
May 17 2012 08:21 GMT
#236
this itw is like, good but like, i feel like he's using 'like' a lot like, it's what links all of his like, sentences together, like.


also mega obvious trolling about terran being better than toss in verylategame
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 08:33:56
May 17 2012 08:33 GMT
#237

I think super-super lategame, Terran is overpowered, when they have planetary fortresses and like 10 SCVs and lots of orbitals and so on, you can’t really win.

That’s like super-late though, like Daybreak 5 bases.

Yeah, once you max and you have like 3-3 against 2-2, then I think it’s advantageous for Protoss, but only for a while, until they sacrifice SCVs and so on. I will say, it’s probably easier to play Terran. Like, it’s very obvious what you have to do: you have to upgrade, expand, do this at that timing, but I think Protoss has more potential.


my thoughts exactly (esp on daybreak). i don't know why terrans complain about late game PvT unless they have horrid army control in which case they should switch races.

and I also agree the overlord speed buff completely negates a lot of timings in PvZ while the queen buff makes it impossible to scout various zerg all ins. it won't break the matchup, but it makes it a lot more one dimensional (where fast 3rd is the only viable option, which zerg can metagame by mass droning).
guccioutlet2012
Profile Joined May 2012
China1 Post
May 17 2012 08:58 GMT
#238
--- Nuked ---
qke
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden60 Posts
May 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#239
Kungen! Naniwa fighting.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
May 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#240
Awesome interview Wax and Naniwa!
It always botheres me by how Naniwa is hated by some guy for what he says , just because he's Naniwa. Stephano says way worst thing but it is ok, since he's Stephano...
It's good to be back
Winterfrozz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden357 Posts
May 17 2012 10:10 GMT
#241
Parting got really angy , hahahaha :D
Jazzi!
MIKster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany333 Posts
May 17 2012 10:39 GMT
#242
Next season: Naniwa all the way to the finals! <3
Munich StarCraft & BarCraft | www.munich-starcraft.de
Milvus
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland400 Posts
May 17 2012 11:51 GMT
#243
Best interview yet. We definately need more of this, its just so much better than the standardized and low profile korean interviews.
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
May 17 2012 12:06 GMT
#244
Wow, such a long interview.
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
May 17 2012 12:30 GMT
#245
On May 17 2012 20:51 Milvus wrote:
Best interview yet. We definately need more of this, its just so much better than the standardized and low profile korean interviews.

There are tons of amazing interviews in TIG... it's just that they are so long that no one bothers translating them.

I used to, but TL admins took those down (understandably), and I couldn't convince TIG people to let me translate for them, even free of charge. And that was it. T_T
in a state of trance
zturchan
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada156 Posts
May 17 2012 13:16 GMT
#246
Sweet interview. Props to both naniwa and wax fro bringing this to us.
BRaegO
Profile Joined November 2010
United States243 Posts
May 17 2012 13:17 GMT
#247
I love how he only thanks his Swedish fans and not all of his fans...
_B L/IN K YOUREYES /1 FOR YES 2 F_OR NO
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
May 17 2012 13:27 GMT
#248
i didnt mean to only thank my swedish fans, i meant in perticular since there was so many of them there at the GSL studio ! i appriciate all my fans
Progamer
BRaegO
Profile Joined November 2010
United States243 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 13:54:02
May 17 2012 13:30 GMT
#249
-.-
_B L/IN K YOUREYES /1 FOR YES 2 F_OR NO
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 17 2012 13:44 GMT
#250
Great great answers. Can't wait to see the naniwa vs idra showmatch :D !
Terran & Potato Salad.
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 13:54:09
May 17 2012 13:51 GMT
#251
If he gets the wrong opponents, he will lose for sure. If he gets the right opponent, I still think he will lose, but… I will probably get hated for it, but whatever, that’s just my honest opinion, and I would love to see him prove me wrong, because it’s always nice when another foreigner does well too.


What a badass, in a positive way though

Very, very, very good interview. Thanks to the interviewer. Love it.
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 14:18:45
May 17 2012 14:18 GMT
#252
On May 17 2012 04:05 Gamegene wrote:
Naniwa seems to have a lot of trouble articulating his thoughts in a straightfoward manner.

He's a fantastic player, I really like his winner's mindset, and I sympathize a lot of times with him when things go awry for him but,

+ Show Spoiler +
he seems socially retarded. I hope Naniwa can mature as a person so he can be a great player and someone who isn't talked down on.



Actually... I understand every bit of what was stated in this interview... If somebody doesn't then probably he's retarded intelectually
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
May 17 2012 14:37 GMT
#253
Great in depth interview. I was surprised he was so dismissive of Thorzain, but I think that Naniwa still harbors some resentment from TSL3 when he got clocked and felt he should have won. Thorzain is better than Naniwa gives him credit for.
RumilDaemon
Profile Joined February 2012
8 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 15:27:03
May 17 2012 15:22 GMT
#254
On May 17 2012 23:18 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 04:05 Gamegene wrote:
Naniwa seems to have a lot of trouble articulating his thoughts in a straightfoward manner.

He's a fantastic player, I really like his winner's mindset, and I sympathize a lot of times with him when things go awry for him but,

+ Show Spoiler +
he seems socially retarded. I hope Naniwa can mature as a person so he can be a great player and someone who isn't talked down on.



Actually... I understand every bit of what was stated in this interview... If somebody doesn't then probably he's retarded intelectually



Thats not what socially retarded means.. It's not that he cant articulate his thoughts, it means he doesn't know how to interact with others / doesnt fit well into society. Which unfortunately is somewhat true, he has a bad knack of pissing people off by accident, due to doing something that isnt socially acceptable, like calling Nestea an idiot etc.

I think Naniwa just doesn't have a brain "filter" in terms of what he should say and what he shouldn't. Don't get me wrong I think hes a great player, but he does have the ability to be abraisive....
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
May 17 2012 16:24 GMT
#255
On May 18 2012 00:22 RumilDaemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 23:18 pms wrote:
On May 17 2012 04:05 Gamegene wrote:
Naniwa seems to have a lot of trouble articulating his thoughts in a straightfoward manner.

He's a fantastic player, I really like his winner's mindset, and I sympathize a lot of times with him when things go awry for him but,

+ Show Spoiler +
he seems socially retarded. I hope Naniwa can mature as a person so he can be a great player and someone who isn't talked down on.



Actually... I understand every bit of what was stated in this interview... If somebody doesn't then probably he's retarded intelectually



Thats not what socially retarded means.. It's not that he cant articulate his thoughts, it means he doesn't know how to interact with others / doesnt fit well into society. Which unfortunately is somewhat true, he has a bad knack of pissing people off by accident, due to doing something that isnt socially acceptable, like calling Nestea an idiot etc.

I think Naniwa just doesn't have a brain "filter" in terms of what he should say and what he shouldn't. Don't get me wrong I think hes a great player, but he does have the ability to be abraisive....


i never said he was an idiot, i thought his choice of strategy was idiotic. I can not articulate myself in english as well as i can in swedish which leads to some missunderstandings . just because my english isnt perfect doesnt mean im socially retarded for fuck sake. I hate people like you who just try to find something you can bend to make me look bad ^^ I dont mind if people hate me for my personality or my play but atleast dont make up your own lies and then spread them.
Progamer
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
May 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#256
gl in code s next season
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imMUTAble787
Profile Joined November 2011
United States680 Posts
May 17 2012 17:04 GMT
#257
Man this interview was awesome. Hope to see more long interviews like this in the future.

Naniwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
*eternalenvy fanboy*
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
May 17 2012 17:10 GMT
#258
On May 18 2012 01:24 Naniwa wrote:
i never said he was an idiot, i thought his choice of strategy was idiotic. I can not articulate myself in english as well as i can in swedish which leads to some missunderstandings . just because my english isnt perfect doesnt mean im socially retarded for fuck sake. I hate people like you who just try to find something you can bend to make me look bad ^^ I dont mind if people hate me for my personality or my play but atleast dont make up your own lies and then spread them.


Don't waste your energy on people with a self claimed "Internet PhD in psychology" with their diagnoses on forums over the net
- - -

Btw next GSL finals I dont want to see you on stream at first row, you have to be on the center stage!
(:
SnowandLights
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom50 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 17:36:06
May 17 2012 17:35 GMT
#259
Naniwa's such a legend nothing but love for that man!!
love4every1
Profile Joined September 2011
United States37 Posts
May 17 2012 17:59 GMT
#260
great interview!
Help!
Gothic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden122 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 18:00:32
May 17 2012 17:59 GMT
#261
So nice to see all this media coverage of Nani lately. He's easily my favourite SC2 player, not just for his skill but also for his strong and honest mentality as well as seeing his own areas where he needs to improve. Bra jobbat Johan!
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m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
May 17 2012 18:28 GMT
#262
What a champ. Another great NaNi interview.
White-Ra fighting!
darnOK
Profile Joined May 2011
Iceland1 Post
May 17 2012 18:39 GMT
#263
naniwa is awesome... or whatever
SumHarvest
Profile Joined March 2012
United States15 Posts
May 17 2012 19:19 GMT
#264
Yeah, he basically just says that the patch isn't very good and everyone pretty much agrees to it but I'm sure people can find a way around it.

Maybe there won't be as many all-ins anymore.
Thy shalt not quote thee!
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
May 17 2012 20:22 GMT
#265
On May 18 2012 00:22 RumilDaemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 23:18 pms wrote:
On May 17 2012 04:05 Gamegene wrote:
Naniwa seems to have a lot of trouble articulating his thoughts in a straightfoward manner.

He's a fantastic player, I really like his winner's mindset, and I sympathize a lot of times with him when things go awry for him but,

+ Show Spoiler +
he seems socially retarded. I hope Naniwa can mature as a person so he can be a great player and someone who isn't talked down on.



Actually... I understand every bit of what was stated in this interview... If somebody doesn't then probably he's retarded intelectually



Thats not what socially retarded means.. It's not that he cant articulate his thoughts, it means he doesn't know how to interact with others / doesnt fit well into society. Which unfortunately is somewhat true, he has a bad knack of pissing people off by accident, due to doing something that isnt socially acceptable, like calling Nestea an idiot etc.

I think Naniwa just doesn't have a brain "filter" in terms of what he should say and what he shouldn't. Don't get me wrong I think hes a great player, but he does have the ability to be abraisive....


Yeah, he's awkward sometimes, but I it's some serious overstatement to say that he "doesn't fit well into society"... And it doesn't say anything good about you either, cause it's almost like discriminating somebody due to some personal characteristics of this person. If anything, all this means that people are xenophobic and non-tolerant. For me personally I find Naniwa to be a great personality, very honest, at times very serious about his profession, and quite special. And this makes him so valuable. If you say, that he "doesn't fit into society" because he doesn't behave as most of people then that's fine, cause most of people don't have much to show... Most people are just dull. And I guess "social" in your understanding, cause they "fit well into society"...
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
May 17 2012 22:17 GMT
#266
parting wears stork's old socks to become protoss bonjwa. it's like that movie with the kid who wore michael jordan's sneakers.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
1ManArmy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands895 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 22:44:50
May 17 2012 22:44 GMT
#267
Amazing interview!
and to the people who dislike his personality, i just want to say.. imagine how much less interesting sc2 would be without outspoken personalities. Ofcourse they might say some things that are not always the best, or that you might disagree with, but at least they are willing to share their honest thoughts with the world, and create amazing storylines, which is generally good for the game.

If i look at post-interviews with soccer players, they are so neutered by media training that you almost never get to hear interesting things.
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ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
May 17 2012 23:53 GMT
#268
Great interview. Naniwa has matured a lot since he arrived in Korea.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 18 2012 00:06 GMT
#269
That was a good interview, got to hand it to Naniwa for being honest.
Plasmid
Profile Joined December 2010
57 Posts
May 18 2012 03:10 GMT
#270
On May 17 2012 00:24 Fionn wrote:
Naniwa is a pretty cool guy besides the whole stealing socks thing. Unforgivable.


Damn it, hopefully GOMTV will not ban him from GSL again for the Socksgate.
tskarzyn
Profile Joined July 2010
United States516 Posts
May 18 2012 04:21 GMT
#271
No humility, disrespects his peers constantly, makes bizarre statements on balance, and just has one of those sour faces that you'd love to throw pies and rotten fruit at. Can't think of an SC2 player i like less.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
May 18 2012 04:34 GMT
#272
On May 18 2012 13:21 tskarzyn wrote:
No humility, disrespects his peers constantly, makes bizarre statements on balance, and just has one of those sour faces that you'd love to throw pies and rotten fruit at. Can't think of an SC2 player i like less.


More focused than almost any other, disrespected by his peers constantly, hated for honest answers he gives when people ask to interview him, and such awesome hair. Can't think of a foreign protoss gsl ro8 maker I like more.
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jkos86
Profile Joined March 2011
50 Posts
May 18 2012 04:40 GMT
#273
On May 18 2012 13:21 tskarzyn wrote:
No humility, disrespects his peers constantly, makes bizarre statements on balance, and just has one of those sour faces that you'd love to throw pies and rotten fruit at. Can't think of an SC2 player i like less.


lol
Does naniwa offrace at all? Protoss late game is weaker than terran? Hes just lost all credibility to me. Well i guess he never really had any in the first place since that time he qqed about protoss on gsl after his 1 base blinkstalker all in failed.

If terran frees up supply and gets planetaries protoss can counter by stockpiling hts and build canons and make a million pylons+gateways not to mention get a lot of colloso and mothership like ...... protoss has the strongest late game its just protoss players have lacked the skill to get there for a long time.
Makuly
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Taiwan54 Posts
May 18 2012 06:30 GMT
#274
always nice to know what's on pro gamers minds !! thanks for interview !:D
Keidy
Profile Joined June 2009
253 Posts
May 18 2012 08:39 GMT
#275
Great read. Naniwa fighting!
Mekare
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany393 Posts
May 18 2012 09:41 GMT
#276
Awesome interview! Finally had time to read it all and it was well worth it.
I love Naniwa's honesty. <3
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-18 10:53:31
May 18 2012 10:53 GMT
#277
On May 18 2012 07:44 1ManArmy wrote:
Amazing interview!
and to the people who dislike his personality, i just want to say.. imagine how much less interesting sc2 would be without outspoken personalities. Ofcourse they might say some things that are not always the best, or that you might disagree with, but at least they are willing to share their honest thoughts with the world, and create amazing storylines, which is generally good for the game.

If i look at post-interviews with soccer players, they are so neutered by media training that you almost never get to hear interesting things.


Couldn't agree more!
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
May 18 2012 11:05 GMT
#278
Great interview. Can't believe I missed it until now.
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xxAoPxx
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany25 Posts
May 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#279
Great interview, good job by Nani showing a much more mature side of himself.
Really hope there's a lot of success along this guy's path, because he certainly deserves it.
Lynda
Profile Joined May 2010
649 Posts
May 18 2012 14:35 GMT
#280
I really like NaNiwa's honesty in his interviews. Great read.
A x i o M
Profile Joined March 2011
United States78 Posts
May 18 2012 15:22 GMT
#281
Naniwa not bming? This is surprising.

Mad props to him for his responses in this interview.
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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
May 18 2012 15:26 GMT
#282
I love how they kept all the naniwa trademark "obviously" and "basically" ^^
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
May 18 2012 15:45 GMT
#283
Really, really good stuff in this interview.

I've never been a huge Naniwa fan, but his responses here are very interesting and give lots of food for thought. The implication that he may have more raw skill than MVP... well, I find that hard to believe, but if he can prove otherwise, all power to him. His point about the extensive preparation and mind-blowing pre-match decision making of people like MVP or MC was very well taken.

And also I think he's pretty close to the mark on the relative rankings of foreigners. Stephano is VERY good, but doesn't always display the same results against top Code S players (not always, as in, he sometimes wins against them but not with the same degree of consistency he displays against other foreigners). ThorZain is super slick with his decision-making and patience, but I doubt at this stage he can compete as well as Stephano or Naniwa with the top Koreans (although I hope he continues to get there a la Dreamhack).

As for Squirtle being tons better than MVP and maybe the best player in the world? I don't see it. Squirtle has been in total boss-mode this GSL, but until he shows me as good of an affinity for a wide range of Protoss styles over the course of multiple series and seasons as opposed to that LETHALLY timed 2-base Colossus play (don't get me wrong, that shit is TERRIFYING and I dread facing even poor copies of it on ladder), I can't in good conscience say he is better than MVP balanced out over all factors.
disinfect
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden65 Posts
May 18 2012 15:58 GMT
#284
On May 18 2012 13:21 tskarzyn wrote:
No humility, disrespects his peers constantly, makes bizarre statements on balance, and just has one of those sour faces that you'd love to throw pies and rotten fruit at. Can't think of an SC2 player i like less.


Can't think of anything more annoying on TL than all the hatiwas.
A-BomB
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland79 Posts
May 18 2012 18:53 GMT
#285
On May 18 2012 13:40 jkos86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 13:21 tskarzyn wrote:
No humility, disrespects his peers constantly, makes bizarre statements on balance, and just has one of those sour faces that you'd love to throw pies and rotten fruit at. Can't think of an SC2 player i like less.


lol
Does naniwa offrace at all? Protoss late game is weaker than terran? Hes just lost all credibility to me. Well i guess he never really had any in the first place since that time he qqed about protoss on gsl after his 1 base blinkstalker all in failed.

If terran frees up supply and gets planetaries protoss can counter by stockpiling hts and build canons and make a million pylons+gateways not to mention get a lot of colloso and mothership like ...... protoss has the strongest late game its just protoss players have lacked the skill to get there for a long time.




yes im sure you know more about it then naniwa
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ErAsc2
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden256 Posts
May 19 2012 16:01 GMT
#286
On May 18 2012 13:21 tskarzyn wrote:
No humility, disrespects his peers constantly, makes bizarre statements on balance, and just has one of those sour faces that you'd love to throw pies and rotten fruit at. Can't think of an SC2 player i like less.


I'm confused. This interview was about Naniwa, not IdrA.
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Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
May 19 2012 16:40 GMT
#287
Start meditating naniwa, best think you'll ever do for maintaining an imperturbable state.
Amove for Aiur
vittra
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden16 Posts
May 21 2012 02:27 GMT
#288
On May 19 2012 03:53 A-BomB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 13:40 jkos86 wrote:
On May 18 2012 13:21 tskarzyn wrote:
No humility, disrespects his peers constantly, makes bizarre statements on balance, and just has one of those sour faces that you'd love to throw pies and rotten fruit at. Can't think of an SC2 player i like less.


lol
Does naniwa offrace at all? Protoss late game is weaker than terran? Hes just lost all credibility to me. Well i guess he never really had any in the first place since that time he qqed about protoss on gsl after his 1 base blinkstalker all in failed.

If terran frees up supply and gets planetaries protoss can counter by stockpiling hts and build canons and make a million pylons+gateways not to mention get a lot of colloso and mothership like ...... protoss has the strongest late game its just protoss players have lacked the skill to get there for a long time.




yes im sure you know more about it then naniwa


This. Also, didn't Tester write that "all pros know this" ealier in the thread? Do we discount the opinions of pros regarding balance/strategy now? But I'm sure you know better then some scrub that coudn't make it past the round of 8 in gsl.
soiii
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany266 Posts
May 21 2012 13:10 GMT
#289
Absolutly awesome interview.
spanjoar
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden10 Posts
May 23 2012 13:43 GMT
#290
On May 17 2012 00:28 MooLen wrote:
Nani looks like Peter Pettigrew :D


Oh really?
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