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Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
February 08 2012 03:39 GMT
#41
I think Supernova will win, but I hope Ret will ^_^ would like too see more of Illusion, so hopefully he will advance too
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
February 08 2012 03:43 GMT
#42
I don't cheer many protosses, but I'm pulling for Feast.
kittensrcute
Profile Joined August 2010
United States617 Posts
February 08 2012 03:43 GMT
#43
On February 08 2012 10:36 OrbitalPlane wrote:
Great research on Darkforce mr author, there is a wiki called liquipedia... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/DarKFoRcE
I guess placing ro8 in NASL is his best result by far. Way better than beating several of the best foreigners and best koreans out there on GeForce tournament and placing 3rd. I am also convinced that at the WCG in Busan his win against MarinKing was an above-average results too. But i guess every above average diamond player can do that...

Also good to learn something new with every article. I did not know that it is his second major tournament in the western hemisphere. I guess DreamHack and Assembly does not count in the american scene.

I really hope next time there is someone less bias writing the article who values the above-average results of one of the best foreigner Zerg players...


They are above average results and so that's why he said he gets above average results.
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
February 08 2012 03:52 GMT
#44
On February 08 2012 10:36 OrbitalPlane wrote:
Great research on Darkforce mr author, there is a wiki called liquipedia... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/DarKFoRcE
I guess placing ro8 in NASL is his best result by far. Way better than beating several of the best foreigners and best koreans out there on GeForce tournament and placing 3rd. I am also convinced that at the WCG in Busan his win against MarinKing was an above-average results too. But i guess every above average diamond player can do that...

Also good to learn something new with every article. I did not know that it is his second major tournament in the western hemisphere. I guess DreamHack and Assembly does not count in the american scene.

I really hope next time there is someone less bias writing the article who values the above-average results of one of the best foreigner Zerg players...




I got used to NA writers to forget about EU players and be biased as fuck about such players as Illusion who havent been to any not NA Lans... thats something you have to get used to living here at TL...

On topic: Never underestimate DarkForce...people call him DarkHorse for a reason...When he is on top of his game he can kill Koreans...

Pred: Supernova 3-0
Darkforce 2-1
Illusion 1-2
Killer 0-3
Melo.
Profile Joined August 2011
United States63 Posts
February 08 2012 04:03 GMT
#45
So according to Grubby, Fenix isn't gonna make it to IEM.....Visa issues
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
February 08 2012 05:00 GMT
#46
I'm really excited to see how Illusion does, I've been familiar with his play since he won his first DC LAN back in the summer. I know he has a really good chance of making it out of the group!
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The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 05:29:06
February 08 2012 05:28 GMT
#47
I think Darkforce will advance out of his group and is being underrated. He's better than Killer, has generally performed at a much higher level than Illusion and is capable of taking a game off Supernova.

As the commenter pointed out above he took third in the GeForce tournament which had an insanely competitive field. He may not be the best European but he's in the top tier and that's enough for me to favor him against Feast and Illusion (in spite of the latter's excellent play of late).

Also Supernova's record according to your own database is the worst (marginally) against Zerg and he just lost 3-1 against Leenock. I'm not saying he shouldn't be favored in the tournament, but the write up was hyping him a little too strongly, even though he looked very strong in the first round at the GSL. Otherwise no quibbles.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
February 08 2012 05:45 GMT
#48
On February 08 2012 10:41 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 10:36 OrbitalPlane wrote:
Great research on Darkforce mr author, there is a wiki called liquipedia... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/DarKFoRcE
I guess placing ro8 in NASL is his best result by far. Way better than beating several of the best foreigners and best koreans out there on GeForce tournament and placing 3rd. I am also convinced that at the WCG in Busan his win against MarinKing was an above-average results too.

Also good to learn something new with every article. I did not know that it is his second major tournament in the western hemisphere. I guess DreamHack and Assembly does not count in the american scene.

I really hope next time there is someone less bias writing the article who values the above-average results of one of the best foreigner Zerg players...


Dreamhack and Assembly were both in the Eastern Hemisphere

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This is BEYOND nit picking. Europe and America are in the Western Hemisphere without doubt. Unless the Cold War of East against West had some severe tectonic movement to agree with the dictionary definition...
@followMVT
ZisforZerg
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States224 Posts
February 08 2012 05:47 GMT
#49
DIMAGA is literally the nicest person to walk to the earth, with WhiteRa ofc.
"I'm too drunk, to taste that chicken."
ZisforZerg
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States224 Posts
February 08 2012 05:49 GMT
#50
On February 08 2012 12:52 Corsica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 10:36 OrbitalPlane wrote:
Great research on Darkforce mr author, there is a wiki called liquipedia... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/DarKFoRcE
I guess placing ro8 in NASL is his best result by far. Way better than beating several of the best foreigners and best koreans out there on GeForce tournament and placing 3rd. I am also convinced that at the WCG in Busan his win against MarinKing was an above-average results too. But i guess every above average diamond player can do that...

Also good to learn something new with every article. I did not know that it is his second major tournament in the western hemisphere. I guess DreamHack and Assembly does not count in the american scene.

I really hope next time there is someone less bias writing the article who values the above-average results of one of the best foreigner Zerg players...




I got used to NA writers to forget about EU players and be biased as fuck about such players as Illusion who havent been to any not NA Lans... thats something you have to get used to living here at TL...

On topic: Never underestimate DarkForce...people call him DarkHorse for a reason...When he is on top of his game he can kill Koreans...

Pred: Supernova 3-0
Darkforce 2-1
Illusion 1-2
Killer 0-3

please don't start this nonsense, he hasn't posted results in a while, the writers haven't forgotten about him it's simply hard to predict a guy who hasn't played in a while to do well.
"I'm too drunk, to taste that chicken."
devPLEASE
Profile Joined March 2011
Kenya605 Posts
February 08 2012 06:18 GMT
#51
When did Illusion leave oGs and join Vile?
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MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 06:25:09
February 08 2012 06:21 GMT
#52
On February 08 2012 14:49 ZisforZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 12:52 Corsica wrote:
On February 08 2012 10:36 OrbitalPlane wrote:
Great research on Darkforce mr author, there is a wiki called liquipedia... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/DarKFoRcE
I guess placing ro8 in NASL is his best result by far. Way better than beating several of the best foreigners and best koreans out there on GeForce tournament and placing 3rd. I am also convinced that at the WCG in Busan his win against MarinKing was an above-average results too. But i guess every above average diamond player can do that...

Also good to learn something new with every article. I did not know that it is his second major tournament in the western hemisphere. I guess DreamHack and Assembly does not count in the american scene.

I really hope next time there is someone less bias writing the article who values the above-average results of one of the best foreigner Zerg players...




I got used to NA writers to forget about EU players and be biased as fuck about such players as Illusion who havent been to any not NA Lans... thats something you have to get used to living here at TL...

On topic: Never underestimate DarkForce...people call him DarkHorse for a reason...When he is on top of his game he can kill Koreans...

Pred: Supernova 3-0
Darkforce 2-1
Illusion 1-2
Killer 0-3

please don't start this nonsense, he hasn't posted results in a while, the writers haven't forgotten about him it's simply hard to predict a guy who hasn't played in a while to do well.


Nonsense? Darkforce beat MarineKing at WCG in December and got in to the top 16 at Home Story Cup last month. I forgot how every player in SC2 should only be judged by how they performed last week.

I would like nothing more than the colossal hype train that is illusion to crash to and burn. It's the guys first LAN outside of the US, he's 15 years old and says in an interview he lies IRL when he plays in these tournaments.

Seriously, he's beaten two koreans online in best of 1's where they are playing cross server and then come "second" in an online tournament by beating Poyo, Incontrol, Catz and Destiny. Can we wait until people do something moderately decent in an offline setting before going mental about them, and by moderately decent I don't mean 24th place at an MLG, TriMaster got 16th at MLG Anaheim, where is he now.

On February 08 2012 15:18 devPLEASE wrote:
When did Illusion leave oGs and join Vile?


Same ID, different player.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Illusion_(Korean_player)
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Illusion_(American_player)
@followMVT
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
February 08 2012 06:28 GMT
#53
Supernova is like MMA was in IEM kiev...
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
February 08 2012 07:05 GMT
#54
Supernova is definitely the mega favourite to win, I'd say. Hoping for a Ret win, though.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Ramuh
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany238 Posts
February 08 2012 07:09 GMT
#55
I don't know...Darkforce is pretty good in ZvT...
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 08 2012 07:54 GMT
#56
Dunno, I think Illusion is kind of overhyped these days. If you look at his past results, he only has a meager bronze medal in which he went through: destiny and incontrol as most notable players...
Anyways, should Illusion not finish second in the group, I can't promise I won't have a smug smile on my face.
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
February 08 2012 08:07 GMT
#57
is ROTTERDAM going to be casting??? OH SHIT SO EXCITED
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Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
February 08 2012 08:18 GMT
#58
On February 08 2012 13:03 Melo. wrote:
So according to Grubby, Fenix isn't gonna make it to IEM.....Visa issues


I find it extremely doubtful that a Peruvian citizen needs a Visa to travel to Brazil.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10877 Posts
February 08 2012 08:20 GMT
#59
The Group A Predictions are really WEIRD...

Aside from Supernova 3-0 which is kinda a given... It's just 100% guessing whiteout any facts or anything behind it except country bias? ^^
I just don't see any "smart" way to "guess" the outcome of this group, if DF brings his best play he should for sure get second... If not this could get messi.
Predicting 0-3 Darkforce is really strange tho...

Or you could go with the "JETLAG!" excuse and say that Supernova will drop 1 serioes and DF get crushed.. Which will make things messi again ^^.
Vaapad
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway171 Posts
February 08 2012 08:35 GMT
#60
gogo snute :D
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