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Great line up! Can't wait!
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On January 05 2012 14:28 alteredclone wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 06:57 MrPuff wrote:
I listen to the interview and I just wonder why there were so many questions about alcohol, drinking and any "after party" scandal situations. And the "dating idea" ... Lets convince Take to make a room were they can "do it" and stream this with commentary. Yea that's what community want. Someone watched to much MTv or something... I really hope that Im not the only one who doesnt like that idea.
Even though Take himself agreed that HSC is something like "Big Brother" this show should not be about how wasted was some player next day or something like that. I really do not like the hype about how much alcohol the players will drink there, I dont care how much bear and vodka will be bought for HSC when 15k viewers will be reached as mention by Mr.Bitter or Rotti on US qualifiers for HSC played on esl.tv . A really do not like the alcohol and sex issues connected to esport as a whole, like for example the "lap dance" stream by Take some long time ago or even the SotG 60 with inControl drinking quite a lot wine at once and open another bottle. Sorry but that was impressive to whom ... some 14-years old maybe (I know there a lot of you, 14-years old sc2 fans out there, and I know that you did much worse things than this, but still ... ).
But back to topic. I have three levels of spending time with friends: hanging with friends (little to nothing alcohol), party (sure amounts of alcohol) and party hard (no comments on that one). I consider the HSC as a tournament right between level 1 and 2, all thought it may be a little bit more for some, but it would be wrong if such information spread. And so in my opinion every question about who was drunk, who puke, etc. are dropping the TL staff member who do that to a "News of the World" tabloid journalist level looking for something "interesting", while TL as a whole is as Times/Forbes of sc2 scene (and esport in general).
If you're not interested..don't watch it. There are plenty of other tournaments where players just play and somebody wins and then everybody leaves.Take will run it how he wants to. Plenty of people drink and enjoy drinking at all ages. If you're looking for a bible study between matches start your own tournament.
Im not against drinking. The whole concept of HSC is to show players relaxed and such. And if they want drink they should, if they want drink a lot they have the right to do it. Im against concentrating on this. Im against making amounts of alcohol drank there by this player or that player the big news.
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Omg, can't wait for MC to cast again, that will be one of the best moments ever ! :D
i hope HerO takes that Tournament !!!
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Great Interview.. I think a MUST listen. Great points about the industry, I have been thinking this way for a while. The players are the stars! I love Husky because he in really interested in the games.. but he makes the players the STARS and really promotes them for me. I love players that have big personalities. Like Idra and Destiny and Morrow... just everyone, if we get to know them more. It is them we get to watch and follow. For eSports we all need to get behind the players. They are the key to the success of growing eSports... along with view ability of the games themselves. As these things improve eSports is unstoppable.
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On January 05 2012 16:28 MrPuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 14:28 alteredclone wrote:On January 05 2012 06:57 MrPuff wrote:
I listen to the interview and I just wonder why there were so many questions about alcohol, drinking and any "after party" scandal situations. And the "dating idea" ... Lets convince Take to make a room were they can "do it" and stream this with commentary. Yea that's what community want. Someone watched to much MTv or something... I really hope that Im not the only one who doesnt like that idea.
Even though Take himself agreed that HSC is something like "Big Brother" this show should not be about how wasted was some player next day or something like that. I really do not like the hype about how much alcohol the players will drink there, I dont care how much bear and vodka will be bought for HSC when 15k viewers will be reached as mention by Mr.Bitter or Rotti on US qualifiers for HSC played on esl.tv . A really do not like the alcohol and sex issues connected to esport as a whole, like for example the "lap dance" stream by Take some long time ago or even the SotG 60 with inControl drinking quite a lot wine at once and open another bottle. Sorry but that was impressive to whom ... some 14-years old maybe (I know there a lot of you, 14-years old sc2 fans out there, and I know that you did much worse things than this, but still ... ).
But back to topic. I have three levels of spending time with friends: hanging with friends (little to nothing alcohol), party (sure amounts of alcohol) and party hard (no comments on that one). I consider the HSC as a tournament right between level 1 and 2, all thought it may be a little bit more for some, but it would be wrong if such information spread. And so in my opinion every question about who was drunk, who puke, etc. are dropping the TL staff member who do that to a "News of the World" tabloid journalist level looking for something "interesting", while TL as a whole is as Times/Forbes of sc2 scene (and esport in general).
If you're not interested..don't watch it. There are plenty of other tournaments where players just play and somebody wins and then everybody leaves.Take will run it how he wants to. Plenty of people drink and enjoy drinking at all ages. If you're looking for a bible study between matches start your own tournament. Im not against drinking. The whole concept of HSC is to show players relaxed and such. And if they want drink they should, if they want drink a lot they have the right to do it. Im against concentrating on this. Im against making amounts of alcohol drank there by this player or that player the big news.
Did you watch past HSC's? Where was the "concentration on alcohol"!? All I know is they showed a lot of games. You're quite successful in taking the fun out of everything, blowing a non-existent issue out of proportion. The first hint is that Hot_bid threw in the couple of extra questions. Second, don't act like since beta it all has been about sex & drugs. Sotg has one drunk episode in a year. Big deal!
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Very nice. I haven't watched or played any starcraft 2 since dreamhack winter because I needed a break from it. I wont miss this however, this is probably the most fun tournament out there.
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On January 05 2012 17:12 rotegirte wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 16:28 MrPuff wrote:On January 05 2012 14:28 alteredclone wrote:On January 05 2012 06:57 MrPuff wrote:
I listen to the interview and I just wonder why there were so many questions about alcohol, drinking and any "after party" scandal situations. And the "dating idea" ... Lets convince Take to make a room were they can "do it" and stream this with commentary. Yea that's what community want. Someone watched to much MTv or something... I really hope that Im not the only one who doesnt like that idea.
Even though Take himself agreed that HSC is something like "Big Brother" this show should not be about how wasted was some player next day or something like that. I really do not like the hype about how much alcohol the players will drink there, I dont care how much bear and vodka will be bought for HSC when 15k viewers will be reached as mention by Mr.Bitter or Rotti on US qualifiers for HSC played on esl.tv . A really do not like the alcohol and sex issues connected to esport as a whole, like for example the "lap dance" stream by Take some long time ago or even the SotG 60 with inControl drinking quite a lot wine at once and open another bottle. Sorry but that was impressive to whom ... some 14-years old maybe (I know there a lot of you, 14-years old sc2 fans out there, and I know that you did much worse things than this, but still ... ).
But back to topic. I have three levels of spending time with friends: hanging with friends (little to nothing alcohol), party (sure amounts of alcohol) and party hard (no comments on that one). I consider the HSC as a tournament right between level 1 and 2, all thought it may be a little bit more for some, but it would be wrong if such information spread. And so in my opinion every question about who was drunk, who puke, etc. are dropping the TL staff member who do that to a "News of the World" tabloid journalist level looking for something "interesting", while TL as a whole is as Times/Forbes of sc2 scene (and esport in general).
If you're not interested..don't watch it. There are plenty of other tournaments where players just play and somebody wins and then everybody leaves.Take will run it how he wants to. Plenty of people drink and enjoy drinking at all ages. If you're looking for a bible study between matches start your own tournament. Im not against drinking. The whole concept of HSC is to show players relaxed and such. And if they want drink they should, if they want drink a lot they have the right to do it. Im against concentrating on this. Im against making amounts of alcohol drank there by this player or that player the big news. Did you watch past HSC's? Where was the "concentration on alcohol"!? All I know is they showed a lot of games. You're quite successful in taking the fun out of everything, blowing a non-existent issue out of proportion. The first hint is that Hot_bid threw in the couple of extra questions. Second, don't act like since beta it all has been about sex & drugs. Sotg has one drunk episode in a year. Big deal!
Please read my comments carefully. Im full of respect for Take for what he did and how he did it. I watched almost whole HSC 3. My comments are about asking Take about controversial stuff from "behind the scenes" like, who was drunk, who was wasted, etc. This is wrong in my opinion.
As for SotG, maybe it was one episode, and to be honest drinking, chatting and answering community questions its great as long as you do it "with head". Drinking as "show off", "to be cool", "to prove someone that he is really drinking", etc. it not what I want to see. This is not what I want hear about. I consider all the esport stars as a role models and I expect they should try to act as ones. Or at least do not give bad example and that what iNcontroL did (not the drinking but the show off part) was bad example in my opinion.
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On January 05 2012 18:03 MrPuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 17:12 rotegirte wrote:On January 05 2012 16:28 MrPuff wrote:On January 05 2012 14:28 alteredclone wrote:On January 05 2012 06:57 MrPuff wrote:
I listen to the interview and I just wonder why there were so many questions about alcohol, drinking and any "after party" scandal situations. And the "dating idea" ... Lets convince Take to make a room were they can "do it" and stream this with commentary. Yea that's what community want. Someone watched to much MTv or something... I really hope that Im not the only one who doesnt like that idea.
Even though Take himself agreed that HSC is something like "Big Brother" this show should not be about how wasted was some player next day or something like that. I really do not like the hype about how much alcohol the players will drink there, I dont care how much bear and vodka will be bought for HSC when 15k viewers will be reached as mention by Mr.Bitter or Rotti on US qualifiers for HSC played on esl.tv . A really do not like the alcohol and sex issues connected to esport as a whole, like for example the "lap dance" stream by Take some long time ago or even the SotG 60 with inControl drinking quite a lot wine at once and open another bottle. Sorry but that was impressive to whom ... some 14-years old maybe (I know there a lot of you, 14-years old sc2 fans out there, and I know that you did much worse things than this, but still ... ).
But back to topic. I have three levels of spending time with friends: hanging with friends (little to nothing alcohol), party (sure amounts of alcohol) and party hard (no comments on that one). I consider the HSC as a tournament right between level 1 and 2, all thought it may be a little bit more for some, but it would be wrong if such information spread. And so in my opinion every question about who was drunk, who puke, etc. are dropping the TL staff member who do that to a "News of the World" tabloid journalist level looking for something "interesting", while TL as a whole is as Times/Forbes of sc2 scene (and esport in general).
If you're not interested..don't watch it. There are plenty of other tournaments where players just play and somebody wins and then everybody leaves.Take will run it how he wants to. Plenty of people drink and enjoy drinking at all ages. If you're looking for a bible study between matches start your own tournament. Im not against drinking. The whole concept of HSC is to show players relaxed and such. And if they want drink they should, if they want drink a lot they have the right to do it. Im against concentrating on this. Im against making amounts of alcohol drank there by this player or that player the big news. Did you watch past HSC's? Where was the "concentration on alcohol"!? All I know is they showed a lot of games. You're quite successful in taking the fun out of everything, blowing a non-existent issue out of proportion. The first hint is that Hot_bid threw in the couple of extra questions. Second, don't act like since beta it all has been about sex & drugs. Sotg has one drunk episode in a year. Big deal! Please read my comments carefully. Im full of respect for Take for what he did and how he did it. I watched almost whole HSC 3. My comments are about asking Take about controversial stuff from "behind the scenes" like, who was drunk, who was wasted, etc. This is wrong in my opinion. As for SotG, maybe it was one episode, and to be honest drinking, chatting and answering community questions its great as long as you do it "with head". Drinking as "show off", "to be cool", "to prove someone that he is really drinking", etc. it not what I want to see. This is not what I want hear about. I consider all the esport stars as a role models and I expect they should try to act as ones. Or at least do not give bad example and that what iNcontroL did (not the drinking but the show off part) was bad example in my opinion.
progamers are not role models and they dont have any obligation to act as ones. if you are disturbed by it you can just not watch instead of randomly complaining and blowing things out of proportion for the sake of attention whoring.
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Very nice post! I am soooo excited about this, it was amazing last year! im sure take will manage to improve it again.
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On January 05 2012 18:20 aTnClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 18:03 MrPuff wrote:On January 05 2012 17:12 rotegirte wrote:On January 05 2012 16:28 MrPuff wrote:On January 05 2012 14:28 alteredclone wrote:On January 05 2012 06:57 MrPuff wrote:
I listen to the interview and I just wonder why there were so many questions about alcohol, drinking and any "after party" scandal situations. And the "dating idea" ... Lets convince Take to make a room were they can "do it" and stream this with commentary. Yea that's what community want. Someone watched to much MTv or something... I really hope that Im not the only one who doesnt like that idea.
Even though Take himself agreed that HSC is something like "Big Brother" this show should not be about how wasted was some player next day or something like that. I really do not like the hype about how much alcohol the players will drink there, I dont care how much bear and vodka will be bought for HSC when 15k viewers will be reached as mention by Mr.Bitter or Rotti on US qualifiers for HSC played on esl.tv . A really do not like the alcohol and sex issues connected to esport as a whole, like for example the "lap dance" stream by Take some long time ago or even the SotG 60 with inControl drinking quite a lot wine at once and open another bottle. Sorry but that was impressive to whom ... some 14-years old maybe (I know there a lot of you, 14-years old sc2 fans out there, and I know that you did much worse things than this, but still ... ).
But back to topic. I have three levels of spending time with friends: hanging with friends (little to nothing alcohol), party (sure amounts of alcohol) and party hard (no comments on that one). I consider the HSC as a tournament right between level 1 and 2, all thought it may be a little bit more for some, but it would be wrong if such information spread. And so in my opinion every question about who was drunk, who puke, etc. are dropping the TL staff member who do that to a "News of the World" tabloid journalist level looking for something "interesting", while TL as a whole is as Times/Forbes of sc2 scene (and esport in general).
If you're not interested..don't watch it. There are plenty of other tournaments where players just play and somebody wins and then everybody leaves.Take will run it how he wants to. Plenty of people drink and enjoy drinking at all ages. If you're looking for a bible study between matches start your own tournament. Im not against drinking. The whole concept of HSC is to show players relaxed and such. And if they want drink they should, if they want drink a lot they have the right to do it. Im against concentrating on this. Im against making amounts of alcohol drank there by this player or that player the big news. Did you watch past HSC's? Where was the "concentration on alcohol"!? All I know is they showed a lot of games. You're quite successful in taking the fun out of everything, blowing a non-existent issue out of proportion. The first hint is that Hot_bid threw in the couple of extra questions. Second, don't act like since beta it all has been about sex & drugs. Sotg has one drunk episode in a year. Big deal! Please read my comments carefully. Im full of respect for Take for what he did and how he did it. I watched almost whole HSC 3. My comments are about asking Take about controversial stuff from "behind the scenes" like, who was drunk, who was wasted, etc. This is wrong in my opinion. As for SotG, maybe it was one episode, and to be honest drinking, chatting and answering community questions its great as long as you do it "with head". Drinking as "show off", "to be cool", "to prove someone that he is really drinking", etc. it not what I want to see. This is not what I want hear about. I consider all the esport stars as a role models and I expect they should try to act as ones. Or at least do not give bad example and that what iNcontroL did (not the drinking but the show off part) was bad example in my opinion. progamers are not role models and they dont have any obligation to act as ones. if you are disturbed by it you can just not watch instead of randomly complaining and blowing things out of proportion for the sake of attention whoring.
But they could be ...
Of course it blown out of proportion. Im do not imply that all players will get drunk and such. I know that they wont. I simply do not want HSC to be consider as tournament where alcohol plays the main part and is the main attention magnet for community (which I know is not ... at least not yet).
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On January 05 2012 18:37 MrPuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 18:20 aTnClouD wrote:On January 05 2012 18:03 MrPuff wrote:On January 05 2012 17:12 rotegirte wrote:On January 05 2012 16:28 MrPuff wrote:On January 05 2012 14:28 alteredclone wrote:On January 05 2012 06:57 MrPuff wrote:
I listen to the interview and I just wonder why there were so many questions about alcohol, drinking and any "after party" scandal situations. And the "dating idea" ... Lets convince Take to make a room were they can "do it" and stream this with commentary. Yea that's what community want. Someone watched to much MTv or something... I really hope that Im not the only one who doesnt like that idea.
Even though Take himself agreed that HSC is something like "Big Brother" this show should not be about how wasted was some player next day or something like that. I really do not like the hype about how much alcohol the players will drink there, I dont care how much bear and vodka will be bought for HSC when 15k viewers will be reached as mention by Mr.Bitter or Rotti on US qualifiers for HSC played on esl.tv . A really do not like the alcohol and sex issues connected to esport as a whole, like for example the "lap dance" stream by Take some long time ago or even the SotG 60 with inControl drinking quite a lot wine at once and open another bottle. Sorry but that was impressive to whom ... some 14-years old maybe (I know there a lot of you, 14-years old sc2 fans out there, and I know that you did much worse things than this, but still ... ).
But back to topic. I have three levels of spending time with friends: hanging with friends (little to nothing alcohol), party (sure amounts of alcohol) and party hard (no comments on that one). I consider the HSC as a tournament right between level 1 and 2, all thought it may be a little bit more for some, but it would be wrong if such information spread. And so in my opinion every question about who was drunk, who puke, etc. are dropping the TL staff member who do that to a "News of the World" tabloid journalist level looking for something "interesting", while TL as a whole is as Times/Forbes of sc2 scene (and esport in general).
If you're not interested..don't watch it. There are plenty of other tournaments where players just play and somebody wins and then everybody leaves.Take will run it how he wants to. Plenty of people drink and enjoy drinking at all ages. If you're looking for a bible study between matches start your own tournament. Im not against drinking. The whole concept of HSC is to show players relaxed and such. And if they want drink they should, if they want drink a lot they have the right to do it. Im against concentrating on this. Im against making amounts of alcohol drank there by this player or that player the big news. Did you watch past HSC's? Where was the "concentration on alcohol"!? All I know is they showed a lot of games. You're quite successful in taking the fun out of everything, blowing a non-existent issue out of proportion. The first hint is that Hot_bid threw in the couple of extra questions. Second, don't act like since beta it all has been about sex & drugs. Sotg has one drunk episode in a year. Big deal! Please read my comments carefully. Im full of respect for Take for what he did and how he did it. I watched almost whole HSC 3. My comments are about asking Take about controversial stuff from "behind the scenes" like, who was drunk, who was wasted, etc. This is wrong in my opinion. As for SotG, maybe it was one episode, and to be honest drinking, chatting and answering community questions its great as long as you do it "with head". Drinking as "show off", "to be cool", "to prove someone that he is really drinking", etc. it not what I want to see. This is not what I want hear about. I consider all the esport stars as a role models and I expect they should try to act as ones. Or at least do not give bad example and that what iNcontroL did (not the drinking but the show off part) was bad example in my opinion. progamers are not role models and they dont have any obligation to act as ones. if you are disturbed by it you can just not watch instead of randomly complaining and blowing things out of proportion for the sake of attention whoring. But they could be ... Of course it blown out of proportion. Im do not imply that all players will get drunk and such. I know that they wont. I simply do not want HSC to be consider as tournament where alcohol plays the main part and is the main attention magnet for community (which I know is not ... at least not yet).
You couldn't be more paranoid wow.
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On January 05 2012 18:50 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 18:37 MrPuff wrote:On January 05 2012 18:20 aTnClouD wrote:On January 05 2012 18:03 MrPuff wrote:On January 05 2012 17:12 rotegirte wrote:On January 05 2012 16:28 MrPuff wrote:On January 05 2012 14:28 alteredclone wrote:On January 05 2012 06:57 MrPuff wrote:
I listen to the interview and I just wonder why there were so many questions about alcohol, drinking and any "after party" scandal situations. And the "dating idea" ... Lets convince Take to make a room were they can "do it" and stream this with commentary. Yea that's what community want. Someone watched to much MTv or something... I really hope that Im not the only one who doesnt like that idea.
Even though Take himself agreed that HSC is something like "Big Brother" this show should not be about how wasted was some player next day or something like that. I really do not like the hype about how much alcohol the players will drink there, I dont care how much bear and vodka will be bought for HSC when 15k viewers will be reached as mention by Mr.Bitter or Rotti on US qualifiers for HSC played on esl.tv . A really do not like the alcohol and sex issues connected to esport as a whole, like for example the "lap dance" stream by Take some long time ago or even the SotG 60 with inControl drinking quite a lot wine at once and open another bottle. Sorry but that was impressive to whom ... some 14-years old maybe (I know there a lot of you, 14-years old sc2 fans out there, and I know that you did much worse things than this, but still ... ).
But back to topic. I have three levels of spending time with friends: hanging with friends (little to nothing alcohol), party (sure amounts of alcohol) and party hard (no comments on that one). I consider the HSC as a tournament right between level 1 and 2, all thought it may be a little bit more for some, but it would be wrong if such information spread. And so in my opinion every question about who was drunk, who puke, etc. are dropping the TL staff member who do that to a "News of the World" tabloid journalist level looking for something "interesting", while TL as a whole is as Times/Forbes of sc2 scene (and esport in general).
If you're not interested..don't watch it. There are plenty of other tournaments where players just play and somebody wins and then everybody leaves.Take will run it how he wants to. Plenty of people drink and enjoy drinking at all ages. If you're looking for a bible study between matches start your own tournament. Im not against drinking. The whole concept of HSC is to show players relaxed and such. And if they want drink they should, if they want drink a lot they have the right to do it. Im against concentrating on this. Im against making amounts of alcohol drank there by this player or that player the big news. Did you watch past HSC's? Where was the "concentration on alcohol"!? All I know is they showed a lot of games. You're quite successful in taking the fun out of everything, blowing a non-existent issue out of proportion. The first hint is that Hot_bid threw in the couple of extra questions. Second, don't act like since beta it all has been about sex & drugs. Sotg has one drunk episode in a year. Big deal! Please read my comments carefully. Im full of respect for Take for what he did and how he did it. I watched almost whole HSC 3. My comments are about asking Take about controversial stuff from "behind the scenes" like, who was drunk, who was wasted, etc. This is wrong in my opinion. As for SotG, maybe it was one episode, and to be honest drinking, chatting and answering community questions its great as long as you do it "with head". Drinking as "show off", "to be cool", "to prove someone that he is really drinking", etc. it not what I want to see. This is not what I want hear about. I consider all the esport stars as a role models and I expect they should try to act as ones. Or at least do not give bad example and that what iNcontroL did (not the drinking but the show off part) was bad example in my opinion. progamers are not role models and they dont have any obligation to act as ones. if you are disturbed by it you can just not watch instead of randomly complaining and blowing things out of proportion for the sake of attention whoring. But they could be ... Of course it blown out of proportion. Im do not imply that all players will get drunk and such. I know that they wont. I simply do not want HSC to be consider as tournament where alcohol plays the main part and is the main attention magnet for community (which I know is not ... at least not yet). You couldn't be more paranoid wow.
Well I could but I took my medicine today.
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It's all a conspiracy..
Heineken and Absolute Wodka try to overtake Homestory cup first and everything else ESPORTS after!
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On January 05 2012 18:20 aTnClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 18:03 MrPuff wrote:On January 05 2012 17:12 rotegirte wrote:On January 05 2012 16:28 MrPuff wrote:On January 05 2012 14:28 alteredclone wrote:On January 05 2012 06:57 MrPuff wrote:
I listen to the interview and I just wonder why there were so many questions about alcohol, drinking and any "after party" scandal situations. And the "dating idea" ... Lets convince Take to make a room were they can "do it" and stream this with commentary. Yea that's what community want. Someone watched to much MTv or something... I really hope that Im not the only one who doesnt like that idea.
Even though Take himself agreed that HSC is something like "Big Brother" this show should not be about how wasted was some player next day or something like that. I really do not like the hype about how much alcohol the players will drink there, I dont care how much bear and vodka will be bought for HSC when 15k viewers will be reached as mention by Mr.Bitter or Rotti on US qualifiers for HSC played on esl.tv . A really do not like the alcohol and sex issues connected to esport as a whole, like for example the "lap dance" stream by Take some long time ago or even the SotG 60 with inControl drinking quite a lot wine at once and open another bottle. Sorry but that was impressive to whom ... some 14-years old maybe (I know there a lot of you, 14-years old sc2 fans out there, and I know that you did much worse things than this, but still ... ).
But back to topic. I have three levels of spending time with friends: hanging with friends (little to nothing alcohol), party (sure amounts of alcohol) and party hard (no comments on that one). I consider the HSC as a tournament right between level 1 and 2, all thought it may be a little bit more for some, but it would be wrong if such information spread. And so in my opinion every question about who was drunk, who puke, etc. are dropping the TL staff member who do that to a "News of the World" tabloid journalist level looking for something "interesting", while TL as a whole is as Times/Forbes of sc2 scene (and esport in general).
If you're not interested..don't watch it. There are plenty of other tournaments where players just play and somebody wins and then everybody leaves.Take will run it how he wants to. Plenty of people drink and enjoy drinking at all ages. If you're looking for a bible study between matches start your own tournament. Im not against drinking. The whole concept of HSC is to show players relaxed and such. And if they want drink they should, if they want drink a lot they have the right to do it. Im against concentrating on this. Im against making amounts of alcohol drank there by this player or that player the big news. Did you watch past HSC's? Where was the "concentration on alcohol"!? All I know is they showed a lot of games. You're quite successful in taking the fun out of everything, blowing a non-existent issue out of proportion. The first hint is that Hot_bid threw in the couple of extra questions. Second, don't act like since beta it all has been about sex & drugs. Sotg has one drunk episode in a year. Big deal! Please read my comments carefully. Im full of respect for Take for what he did and how he did it. I watched almost whole HSC 3. My comments are about asking Take about controversial stuff from "behind the scenes" like, who was drunk, who was wasted, etc. This is wrong in my opinion. As for SotG, maybe it was one episode, and to be honest drinking, chatting and answering community questions its great as long as you do it "with head". Drinking as "show off", "to be cool", "to prove someone that he is really drinking", etc. it not what I want to see. This is not what I want hear about. I consider all the esport stars as a role models and I expect they should try to act as ones. Or at least do not give bad example and that what iNcontroL did (not the drinking but the show off part) was bad example in my opinion. progamers are not role models and they dont have any obligation to act as ones. if you are disturbed by it you can just not watch instead of randomly complaining and blowing things out of proportion for the sake of attention whoring.
Progamers have a ton of young fans who idolize them, so how are progamers not role models exactly?
A role model doesn't always act like it, but that's not the criteria of the definition however.
That said, there should be nothing wrong with relaxing with a bit of alcohol.
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On January 05 2012 19:01 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 18:20 aTnClouD wrote:On January 05 2012 18:03 MrPuff wrote:On January 05 2012 17:12 rotegirte wrote:On January 05 2012 16:28 MrPuff wrote:On January 05 2012 14:28 alteredclone wrote:On January 05 2012 06:57 MrPuff wrote:
I listen to the interview and I just wonder why there were so many questions about alcohol, drinking and any "after party" scandal situations. And the "dating idea" ... Lets convince Take to make a room were they can "do it" and stream this with commentary. Yea that's what community want. Someone watched to much MTv or something... I really hope that Im not the only one who doesnt like that idea.
Even though Take himself agreed that HSC is something like "Big Brother" this show should not be about how wasted was some player next day or something like that. I really do not like the hype about how much alcohol the players will drink there, I dont care how much bear and vodka will be bought for HSC when 15k viewers will be reached as mention by Mr.Bitter or Rotti on US qualifiers for HSC played on esl.tv . A really do not like the alcohol and sex issues connected to esport as a whole, like for example the "lap dance" stream by Take some long time ago or even the SotG 60 with inControl drinking quite a lot wine at once and open another bottle. Sorry but that was impressive to whom ... some 14-years old maybe (I know there a lot of you, 14-years old sc2 fans out there, and I know that you did much worse things than this, but still ... ).
But back to topic. I have three levels of spending time with friends: hanging with friends (little to nothing alcohol), party (sure amounts of alcohol) and party hard (no comments on that one). I consider the HSC as a tournament right between level 1 and 2, all thought it may be a little bit more for some, but it would be wrong if such information spread. And so in my opinion every question about who was drunk, who puke, etc. are dropping the TL staff member who do that to a "News of the World" tabloid journalist level looking for something "interesting", while TL as a whole is as Times/Forbes of sc2 scene (and esport in general).
If you're not interested..don't watch it. There are plenty of other tournaments where players just play and somebody wins and then everybody leaves.Take will run it how he wants to. Plenty of people drink and enjoy drinking at all ages. If you're looking for a bible study between matches start your own tournament. Im not against drinking. The whole concept of HSC is to show players relaxed and such. And if they want drink they should, if they want drink a lot they have the right to do it. Im against concentrating on this. Im against making amounts of alcohol drank there by this player or that player the big news. Did you watch past HSC's? Where was the "concentration on alcohol"!? All I know is they showed a lot of games. You're quite successful in taking the fun out of everything, blowing a non-existent issue out of proportion. The first hint is that Hot_bid threw in the couple of extra questions. Second, don't act like since beta it all has been about sex & drugs. Sotg has one drunk episode in a year. Big deal! Please read my comments carefully. Im full of respect for Take for what he did and how he did it. I watched almost whole HSC 3. My comments are about asking Take about controversial stuff from "behind the scenes" like, who was drunk, who was wasted, etc. This is wrong in my opinion. As for SotG, maybe it was one episode, and to be honest drinking, chatting and answering community questions its great as long as you do it "with head". Drinking as "show off", "to be cool", "to prove someone that he is really drinking", etc. it not what I want to see. This is not what I want hear about. I consider all the esport stars as a role models and I expect they should try to act as ones. Or at least do not give bad example and that what iNcontroL did (not the drinking but the show off part) was bad example in my opinion. progamers are not role models and they dont have any obligation to act as ones. if you are disturbed by it you can just not watch instead of randomly complaining and blowing things out of proportion for the sake of attention whoring. Progamers have a ton of young fans who idolize them, so how are progamers not role models exactly? A role model doesn't always act like it, but that's not the criteria of the definition however. That said, there should be nothing wrong with relaxing with a bit of alcohol.
since it was a direct answer to that guy my point was not saying progamers don't fit in the criteria of the definition of role model, rather about the fact they don't have any obligation to act as a perfect and clean role model, like a politician should. being a progamer is not a job that carries that much responsibility and we are still supposed to have fun as most young people would.
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Those Koreans are really into their pork bellies with garlic, kimchi and rice wrapped in lettuce, eaten with chilli paste.
Maybe Take can get his cook to to serve them the German counterpart: sauerkraut, diced apples, garlic and onions wrapped in pork bellies with mustard.
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is there a low quality stream for homestory? im being silly and cant find it 
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same question here, any chance of watching any of these matches?
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There will be a low quality free stream, but since the tournament hasnt started yet you dont see anything here on TL is suppose 
http://de.twitch.tv/team/HSC
There you will find all the different streams 
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