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December 5th, 2011 08:53 GMT

Recaps: Week 1, Round 1

Kiante

The marquee match for the season to open up with matched the runners up from last season against the newly formed Kespa run team. The first game opened up with Baby easily overrunning a failed 2 hatch muta build from Soo and with Sea coming out in set 2 it seemed like Team 8 might be able to get to an easy 2 game advantage...

(Continued on page 2)


Mind vs Jaedong - Outlier

Harem

Mind spawned at 12 opening with a forward 8rax no gas wallin. This saves him from any potential early pool shenanigans. However, Mind chose to not make a ling tight wall as he wanted marines to spawn inside the wall to prevent what happened to Flash on Gladiator. Meanwhile, Jaedong spawns at 5 while opening 12hat 11pool 10gas and scouting with 12drone that goes wrong way...

(Continued on page 3)


Gone But Not Forgotten

Xxio

The passing of MBCGame, WeMade FOX, and Hwaseung OZ marks a tremendously tragic time in Brood War, and I fear that this short writeup will fall far short of the eulogy that is due. These teams lived and died in the golden age of StarCraft. Titans of the industry, they were part of the Brood War Pantheon that birthed modern eSports...

(Continued on page 4)


Previews: Week 2, Round 1

Mustaju

It's fitting that the Estonian word "kannatus" means both "patience" and "suffering", since I used it a lot to describe the state I was in after the first week of Proleague. While the months of silence inbetween were bad, having no Proleague at all this weekend was even worse, and I know for a fact that i wasn't the only one feeling this way...

(Continued on page 5)


Sup sup sup? You jelly? You jelly.

A Letter from the Editor

Riptide

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen of ESPORTS. The new season is in full swing and pro Starcraft is once again fixture on these fine shores. The PL team is here to report on the first week's happenings. Before we get into the nitty-gritty though, let's have a cursory glance at what went down during the last seven days. Oh, and I've included a family sized portion of opinion, so if you'd like some salt, grab some!

Firstly, KT blew, and even as an SKT fan, I took little pleasure in seeing last season's champions humbled so. I'm a KT anti-fan, but first a Broodwar fan. Let's just come out and say it. With just Flash, and to an extent Stats, to carry them through an entire season, their prospects do look grim for 2011-12 R1. We've talked, indeed even argued about depth in these columns for years, but I'm not going to mince my words here. KT is as shallow as a celebrity blog. Now, with the ace match gone and no chance of someone shouldering the entire team, they are going to be fighting for their life.Speaking of depth, Team 8 has one of the deepest lineups at the moment, with an in form Jaedong
(watch him demolish Mind if you haven't already) and a solid looking Sea leading the way. Throw in Baby and Killer, and you've got quite the team. They're 1-1 this week, dropping their season opener to SKT T1 but then rebounding with a resounding victory against KT.

SKT T1 performed as expected. OK, let's get real, they performed much better than expected. While Bisu's win was inevitable, Best's nice zealot work on Ground Zero managed to take down the Tyrant. No mean feat! Sun's dispatch of Sea was also a pleasant surprise for SKT fans. All in all, the team came out looking prepared and in form. It's going to be great to see where Coach Park takes them in R1. For the first time in years, the dynasty has a coach and a team worth fearing, and when Park / Ju Hoon meet each other next you can rest assured that there will be no love lost between them.Yes, I left the best for last. After a mediocre couple of years, one of TL's favourite teams is looking like they're ready for a real run at a Proleague title this season. Coming straight out and
3-0ing both ACE and STX, an EffOrt led CJ is back in Broodwar circles. However, they didn't really face big competition this week and it's their week 2 games that will really tell us whether they're here to stay. Hydra may just prove a worthy second to EffOrt and Movie might step it up. If you're a CJ fan, it's time to start hoping!

All in all, it was an eventful week, and this Proleague update is going to take you right to the heart of it. Read our Game Of The Week column and then dive into some fanfic from mustaju. Finally, wind up with a look at the previews of next week's matchups.

We don't know about you guys, but we're sure glad the proscene is back, and with Proleague, no less. We have many awesome weeks and many, many fantastic games ahead of us. Stay with us as we take you through each of them. As you do, you are also encouraged to to check out Sayle's English Proleague Commentary for English live streams and VODs of your favourite PL games.

Good night, and good games!


Recaps: Round 1, Week 1

Kiante

[image loading]SK Telecom T1 3 > 1 Team 8[image loading]

(Z)n.Die_soO < Chain Reaction > (T)BaBy
(P)By.Sun < Jade > (T)Sea
(P)Bisu < Outlier > (P)Jaehoon
(P)BeSt < Ground Zero > (Z)Jaedong
< Sniper Ridge >

The marquee match for the season to open up with matched the runners up from last season against the newly formed Kespa run team. The first game featured an in form Baby easily overrunning a failed 2 hatch muta build from Soo and with Sea coming out in set 2 it seemed like Team 8 might be able to get to an easy 2 game advantage. Sun, however, was having none of it and with a cute 2 gate build doing some early damage managed to defeat Sea to level the scores.

SKT finally sent out a star player in the form of Bisu and he had an easy time dealing with Jaehoon who looked out of his element on Outlier, attempting to glitch his DT through the back door when he got behind but Bisu was completely prepared for it. Finally Best managed to startle the audience with a strong win over Jaedong, using a smart zealot/archon timing to catch Jaedong being slightly greedy and easily finished the game with a 2 base push allowing SKT to take their first match of the season 3-1.

[image loading]Air Force ACE 3 > 2 KT Rolster[image loading]

(P)M18M < Outlier > (P)Stats
(Z)great < Ground Zero > (T)Flash
(T)PianO < Sniper Ridge > (Z)HoeJJa
(Z)ggaemo < Electric Circuit > (T)BarrackS
(T)firebathero < Jade > (Z)Action

Even after winning the championship last season the doubts surrounding KT’s chances to excel with the new Ace match format were numerous and seemingly justified. Stats came out in set 1 for KT and had an easy game against M18m, holding the attempted 4 gate from M18M with his 2 gate reaver build and eventually clinching the game. Flash came out second and had an easy time taking out Great, who attempted to 3 hatch before pool but unfortunately he expanded next to Flash’s base, and died to a simple bunker rush on his natural with a command centre and bio follow-up.

This is where everything went awry for KT, with Hoejja losing to Piano in an exciting game with Piano forcing Hoejja’s attention to be split trying to deal with groups of marines all over the map. Ace continued their comeback with Ggaemo showing the form that got him named Ace’s Jaedong, using lurkers to great effect to bust into the front and back of Barracks’ base simultaneously. Finally FireBatHero took out action with no real problems denying Action’s expansions while taking the map and winning the macro game, finishing up a fairy tale start to the season for the boys in blue.

[image loading]CJ Entus 3 > 0 STX SouL[image loading]

(Z)Hydra < Chain Reaction > (Z)Modesty
(T)Leta < Jade > (T)Bogus
(Z)EffOrt < Outlier > (Z)hyvaa
< Ground Zero >
< Sniper Ridge >

Mustaju called this game for CJ as a 3-0 whitewash and much like almost all of his predictions he was correct. STX had a tough end to their last season and their start was no better as CJ had no problems dispatching them quickly. The first match featured a Hydra ZvZ against modesty and while modesty had the build order advantage, Hydra slowly clawed the advantage in his favour with superior micro, eventually taking the game.

The next match featured STX’s ace player Bogus against Leta, with Bogus attempting a 2 factory siege push while Leta early expanded. Bogus couldn’t break Leta’s strong defence, gifting Leta an easy victory once he dealt with the initial push. Finally the returned messiah Effort came out to play against Hyvaa and showed an interesting build which involved getting his spire done as soon as possible and using scourge to delay Hyvaa’s mutalisks while his zerglings destroyed his economy, sealing the match for CJ.

[image loading]Samsung KHAN 3 > 2 Woongjin Stars[image loading]

(P)Grape < Outlier > (P)free
(P)JangBi < Ground Zero > (T)Light
(P)Stork < Sniper Ridge > (Z)ZerO
(Z)RorO < Electric Circuit > (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey
(T)Reality < Jade > (P)sHy

This match set up a revenge opportunity for Khan after they lost to Stars in the playoffs last season and it didn’t disappoint. The first set featured yet another PvP on outlier with Free easily besting Grape with a 2 gate robo build against Grapes 3 gate. The next game featured the OSL champion Jangbi giving the viewers a PvT clinic, using a proxy robo to continually harass Light and eventually managing to overrun him with speed shuttles and reavers. The third set featured the ace players of both teams clashing, with Stork using cute zealot drops to pull Zero’s army out of position and proceeded to easily roll over him off 2 bases.

Soulkey saved the match for his team taking out Roro easily in a relatively standard ZvZ. With both teams using all of their ace players in the first four sets the match was completed with a showdown between the rookies Reality and sHy. Reality managed to kill sHy’s third base with a quick push and after that sHy valiantly fought hard and despite killing some of Reality’s tanks he couldn’t get back an advantage and eventually he lost, giving Khan the victory, 3-2.

[image loading]Team 8 3 > 2 KT Rolster[image loading]

(Z)Ever)Z(Killer < Sniper Ridge > (Z)Crazy-Hydra
(P)Jaehoon < Electric Circuit > (T)Flash
(T)Sea < Jade > (P)Stats
(Z)Jaedong < Outlier > (T)Mind
(T)BaBy < Chain Reaction > (P)Wooki

Both KT and Team 8 were given a second chance to get a win during the first week of competition after they lost their first matches of the season so both teams must have been hungry for the victory. Unfortunately for the defending champions KT it was not to be with the Kespa run Team 8 taking their first win of the season to help cement their confidence. Set 1 opened up with Killer falling in a ZvZ to Crazy Hydra with Killer not matching CH’s expansion and failing to do the damage he needed, losing the gas battle and eventually the game.

The second game once again featured an appearance from KT’s ace player Flash, easily dispatching Jaehoon in a long game despite Jaehoon fighting well. 2-0 down Team 8 turned to Sea to dispatch of Stats, punishing his greedy carrier play with a smart timing attack which set up a contain which stats was unable to break. The fourth game featured Jaedong in an epic ZvT on outlier with Jaedong managing to win despite looking dead to Mind’s valkyrie push in the mid game. Finally Baby wrapped up the comeback for Team 8 utilising a push around the back side of Wooki’s base, shutting down the carriers that were being created and holding all of Wooki’s attempts to stop him.

[image loading]CJ Entus 3 > 0 Air Force ACE[image loading]

(Z)EffOrt < Electric Circuit > (T)Iris
(Z)Hydra < Outlier > (Z)ggaemo
(P)Horang2 < Chain Reaction > (T)PianO
< Jade >
< Ground Zero >

CJ once again managed to crush through with a 3-0 victory in their second match of the season. Effort once again won his match in an exciting game against Iris, whose mech strategy was completely dominated by Effort simply taking the entire map. Ggaemo fell to Hydra who once again demonstrated why he is so fearsome in ZvZ, easily destroying Ggaemo’s mutalisks with superior micro and a gas advantage. Finally Horang2 gave the crowd some fun, using disruption web with mixed success to best Piano in a long game but somewhat silly game to give CJ the victory.


Mind vs Jaedong - Outlier

Harem

Mind spawned at 12 opening with a forward 8rax no gas wallin. This saves him from any potential early pool shenanigans. However, Mind chose to not make a ling tight wall as he wanted marines to spawn inside the wall to prevent what happened to Flash on Gladiator. Meanwhile, Jaedong spawns at 5 while opening 12hat 11pool 10gas and scouting with 12drone that goes wrong way. However, Jaedong ends up canceling his extractor when he sees what Mind is up to as he needs as many drones mining as possible. The bunker rush sets Jaedong back more then he'd like but he made it up for by powering drones hard afterwards. Mind can't really punish this as he is still on 1rax while expanding and teching to starport for fast valks. This means that any kind of aggression can't be reinforced and more importantly, he can't afford to lose any marines when the whole focal point of valkonic play lies in its mid-game strength.

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Meanwhile, on the Zerg side of things, Jaedong was treating this map as though it were Fortress, Colosseum (plays out differently as there isn't 1 sunk line but still a common build used there), Outsider etc and going for 2hat muta +1 flyer cara into guard/ultra. This game, he specifically goes for the variation where he delays swarm for fast(er) ultras. One thing to note though is that the bunker rush and canceled gas really set Jaedong's timings back further then he'd like.

What follows is a terran who clearly didn't grasp the situation and whose map knowledge was off. After his initial valks, Mind went up to 3rax fac in order to try some kind of timing attack before ultras. However, that was the worst possible thing he could have done as Mind for a timing attack that Jaedong's build is designed to beat. It can sometimes work if Z is only relying on sunks stalling for guards but Jaedong also did a nice job of picking off rines which already thinned Mind's super small army and Mind lost his valk force to scourge.

Instead what Mind should have done is skip tanks and add a lot of rax while going SK Terran and forcing Jaedong to make more way more sunks while using the starport to pump dropships. (Also, please note how long JD was still on 3gas pumping/guard ultra and when he actually took his 4th was.) The dropship is the key to beating guard/ultra on maps like these as you need to deny Zerg from taking further expos and usually zerg has certain vulnerable timing windows where huge drops in main can do massive damage as long as Terran keeps the pressure on. (see Justin vs Calm on Outsider or ForGG vs Jaedong on Colo)

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On other maps vs this build, Terran can take their thirds (and even 4th) and just play for lategame while denying expos with dropships. However, this really doesn't work as well on Outlier as Zerg can just send ultra/defiler/ling through Terran's backdoor into main with how easy it is to mine out. (which happens to Mind in this game as well later on)

There is potential in 4rax -> 3port ( http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/32785_Fantasy_vs_HoeJJa ) working well vs this build on Outlier but luckily for zergs everywhere, most T1 terran builds really haven't gotten the attention that they deserve. Otherwise, ZvT QQ would make a dt-dropped BW Artosis actually look sane and normal.

The probable best option vs this build is the gameplan Justin showed vs Calm on Outsider.



Everything Justin does this game is based on predicting exactly how Calm will play (2hat muta into guard/ultra while getting double gas) and crushing it utterly. He opens with an 8rax (like Mind did) but diverges in that it is the Barracks Supply Barracks variation. Then, he later goes into a 2rax acad expand which forces Calm to heavily sunk and delay his own spire timing. He later transitions into 3port wraith which does a ton of damage and from there, it's just absolutely textbook play with vessels and vessels irradiating anything and everything that moves (remember that trading vessels for defilers/ultras is good for Terran when T has economic advantage and can't take anymore bases), dropships dropping everywhere , and ensuring that Calm can not take any more expos while never letting up on the pressure. The game was over before it even began.



Gone But Not Forgotten

Xxio

The passing of MBCGame, WeMade FOX, and Hwaseung OZ marks a tremendously tragic time in Brood War, and I fear that this short writeup will fall far short of the eulogy that is due. These teams lived and died in the golden age of StarCraft. Titans of the industry, they were part of the Brood War Pantheon that birthed modern eSports. Their passing truly gives one pause to look at the annals of professional StarCraft. As Plutarch chronicled the life of Alexander and the beginning of the Hellenistic Age, so too do we bear witness to the end of the old and the beginning of the new.

When Alexander III died in 323 BC, he left the world fragmented and structureless. His friends and generals had no successor to turn to, let alone a political system to administrate their spear-won territory, which stretched as far East as Baktria and as far South as the Hindu Kush. One untimely death wrought centuries of war, spanning three continents. Even when the dust settled and the lines were drawn, territorial tensions constantly begot bloodshed, and the successors of a deified Emperor and isolated culture now ruled over a land and people completely foreign to their own.

The Macedonian army conquered the Near East and spread Hellenism in its wake, forever changing the geography of culture. But Alexander's conquest and the world we know today would be fundamentally different had the diadochi not rode with Alexander for over 10 years and through countless battles. MBCGame, WeMade FOX and Hwaseung OZ, like the diadochi, were the primogenitures of a new era. They shaped it, made it what it was, and in their passing, ended it.

Proleague, firstborn of eSports and the backbone of Brood War, popularized StarCraft and turned it into a spectator sport. MBCGame, WeMade FOX, and Hwaseung OZ were all there in the beginning. Hwaseung OZ lived a full decade, its original members NaDa, BoxeR, YellOw and IntoTheRainbow. WeMadeFOX and MBCGame were shy of their tenth birthday, but their history is just as rich. Each team won rounds in Proleague, spawned great and feared names, and marshaled players long since forgotten. They founded professional StarCraft as surely as the diadochi founded the Hellenistic Age. But so too did they fall.

The collapse of the diadochi dynasties ended an era. In life they shaped the world, and in their death, left it moored on the contours of history. The world that Hwaseung OZ, WeMade FOX and MBCGame created and died in is no different. These founders of our passion have passed, their dynasties ended, and we are left with their legacy. Those of us who remember them in life and saw them through their trials and tribulations are the pallbearers for this unofficial funeral. Pioneers and ancestors that they were, it is hard to think of professional StarCraft without them.




Both of you are TeamLiquid and SC:BW veterans. What do the disbanding of MBCGame, Hwaseung Oz and WeMade FOX mean to you personally, and how do you contextualize their rise and fall in the grand scheme of Korean eSports history?


thedeadhaji:Hwaseung Oz used to be Lecaf Oz, which in turn used to be the Plus team (no sponsor).

To me personally, the disbanding of Oz (and the retirement of Anytime) means that I no longer have a reason to truly be a fan of any team or any player in BroodWar. While I still remain a fan of the game itself, perhaps more than ever, recreating the illogically insane passion I had for the success of one particular team and one particular player is simply not possible. I don't think I will ever be a fan of another team or player in the future either.

The fall of these teams is a symbol of the botched business efforts of the league organizers and their failure to position their product for the long term. I have some hope that they can retrench and restructure for a smaller but healthier business model. Better to be the NHL for 100 years than the NFL for 10.


MrHoon:Ahhuhhhjughguhuu, where to start?

If wemade and MBCGame were the only teams disbanding, I wouldn't see this as a big deal as they had no money to begin with. However, since Hwaseung is disbanding, I was a bit sadder and accepted the inevitable end of BW pro scene.

Hwaseung leaving the esports game was a bit of a shock to me as they are far from a 'poor' company. They may not be rich as their STX/CJ/KTF/SKT counterparts (samsung is very cheap for how much money they have) but still seeing them go is a big shame. This event made me wonder if these sponsors would truely stay within the esports scene. I can see SKT and KTF in the near future holding an SC2 pro team, but CJ and STX? I'm not too sure. Then again STX sponsors the most random things ever within South Korea so I guess they might have a SC2 team if they wanted to.


MBCGame, Hwaseung and WeMade were not the first teams to enter and exit the professional StarCraft scene, but they were definitely the biggest. In your opinion, what caused these teams to go under? In hindsight, is there anything that could have been done to prevent the disbandings?


Haji:The teams disbanded because their sponsors didn't want to continue. The sponsors didn't want to continue because the PR investment was no longer deemed worthwhile.

This could have been caused by any of many possible reasons. The downturn of the global economy and decrease in consumption of goods produced by the sponsors may have spurred cost cutting at the company. The TV ratings have been going down, and the sponsors may have reassessed their PR exposure accordingly. The TV ratings in turn may have been affected by either the recent wave of scandals, or the lack of innovation in the broadcasts and event formats.

It could be any number of reasons, but the bottom line is "business". The leagues couldn't keep their product attractive for companies relative to the current environment and its particular needs, so the teams were cut.

On the other side of the coin, the product has been becoming worse for the consumers (viewers) as well.

Somewhere in the corner of my mind, I can't help but think that had the leagues challenged the status quo and tried new formats or new initiatives, TV viewership could have been maintained, and perhaps this could have been avoided.


Hoon:I think there really couldn't have been a way to prevent this from happening. Starcraft teams costs a lot of money and not many normal companies can do it, even if they really wanted to. The fault lies on their shaky sponsors as one was sponsored by one of the poorest National TV stations and a videogame company which we all know is already a risky business. Hwaseung on the otherhand was a huge shock to me as they seemed like the one team I would see until the end of the Brood War Era.

What could have been done to prevent such things from happening? To be honest I cannot say as I have no firsthand experience in the world of sponsorship and whatnot haha. Though I think MBCGame could have done something similar to what OGN Sparkyz did when they were semi sponsored by the Beer company “Hite”, as in look for at least a major brand name to staple in front of your players.


The disbanding of these teams follows one year after the disbanding of eSTRO and the match fixing scandal. This season of Proleague struggled to find a sponsor. How much longer will sponsor troubles plague SC:BW and what can KeSPA do to right the situation? Are the new format and possible inclusion of StarCraft 2 good decisions?


Haji:Sponsors are leaving because investing in a BroodWar team is no longer a sound business decision. The ROI is probably abysmal. That needs to be changed. This means that the return for companies needs to improve, or the investment cost needs to drop.

For team sponsors, team operational costs need to go down. Cost cutting in the literal sense doesn't seem to make sense for middle of the pack teams like Oz or Fox, so a more attractive solution would be to redirect more revenue from the matches themselves to the teams.

If you think about the production costs on the TV station side, costs must have skyrocketed from 2006 to 2011. Better visual effects, bigger studios, the whole 9 yards. But what's the real value of professional BroodWar? To me, it's just the games and just the games. I don't care of there are flashing lights in the studios or not, just give me great games from great players, and I won't care if they're playing on the side of the street. I don't think that the added production costs have increased the value of the product to customers at all.

Proleague sponsorship is directly tied to viewership. Viewership is tied to entertainment value. I personally think that the format has gotten stale, the players are uniform, monotone, and uncompelling, and viewers are tired of the same old song of the match formats.

Having fewer matches I think will be in the right direction for improving TV ratings, but it's probably not enough. Boxer always stressed the importance of entertaining the fans; they could use a little bit of his foresight right about now.

Personally, I think the decision to market BroodWar like a group of boy bands was a terrible long term decision by the powers that be. Those fads never last. They should have focused on the fan that will be a fan because of the game, not because of the amount of hairspray on their favorite player.


Hoon:Finding sponsors within Brood War during the current era has always been an issue. When I was back in the translating business I can't count how many threads within the Korea community were “No sponsors again?” MBCGame channel always struggled incredibly hard to get new sponsors and all their sponsors were always last minute for a couple of years now.

I honestly still have no idea how they're going to include sc2 within proleague o.O, so no comment?


Do you think that the disbandings will have a significant effect on the number of players aspiring to become progamers? And how do you think long-time fans of MBCGame, Hwaseung and WeMade will adapt?


Haji:The rational ones will see that it's now less likely than ever that they will 'make it'. The irrational ones will keep trying regardless. The number may go down, but the end effect may not even be different. The main issue will be whether each team will continue to maintain their B teams, and how large they will be.

Fans of the particular players will migrate naturally to Team 8. Fans of the teams and their cultures and their particualr rosters and history will not be convinced so easily, if at all.

If for instance a long time Nada fan had remained a Fox fan even after the player's retirement from BroodWar, then I predict that this fan will simply no longer have a team he will cheer for. The team that was imbued by the spirit and character of his favorite player, the impulsive reason he followed that team, is forever gone.


Hoon:Although there are many people who are fans of players more than teams, depressing news such as these always dampen the spirit of youngins who aspire to take a profession the 99% cannot do. News like this will have an impact, but how large is what I cannot answer as of now.

MBCGame and Wemade fans will be devastated, and the news of MBCGame still hurts me. I may not be the biggest Wemade fan, but Wemade has one of the deepest histories within Brood War. Always sad to see giants like them go.

Hwaseung fans will do fine. It's not like they actually root for anyone aside from Jaedong LOL!


Going into this season, there is a lot of excitement around the new team, maps, and format. But watching week after week of Proleauge without MBCGame, WeMade and Hwaseung, do you expect to feel any lingering bitterness or sense of loss? In SC:BW, is it the team or the players that a fan is loyal to?


Haji:For me, it was always the player first and foremost. When the player left the team, I already had little reason to cheer for the team. But I admit that by watching the player, I had indirectly become aware of his teammates and their particularities. I remember when Jaedong's zvp was down right terrible. I remember realizing Hiya's great skill at placing spider mines for the first time. I remember being outraged at the coach for choosing Hiya over Lomo during one of the 2007 season playoff matches. I remember ForGG's gorilla-fisted play style, and the sometimes brain-dead antics of Backho.

With the loss of the unifying team identity, I'll probably reminisce of these thoughts less and less now.


Hoon:Losing MBCGame, Wemade and hwaseung definitely loses the variety BW held within proleague (though some argued there were too many damn teams to begin with). Such staple names being gone does suck. Though I remember there was a poll long ago on TL asking whether if you're the fan of the game, the player or the team and I think “Fan of the Player” won by a good amount. I think most people on the Teamliquid BW website are fans of the player.

Final thoughts?


Haji:With the disbandment of Oz, I am no longer a fan of any active team or any active player. I'm now just a fan of the game and a fan of professional Broodwar in Korea.

But you know, maybe that's not so bad.


Hoon:Despite the teams being gone, I think this proleague will still be great as ever. Sure the no ace matches thing sucks but I can see kespa trying to add variety(?) to their viewers. Here's to a great proleague once again this year!



Previews: Round 1, Week 2

Mustaju

It's fitting that the Estonian word "kannatus" means both "patience" and "suffering", since I used it a lot to describe the state I was in after the first week of Proleague. While the months of silence inbetween were bad, having no Proleague at all this weekend was even worse, and I know for a fact that i wasn't the only one feeling this way. Can't wait for next weeks' matches either? If so, here are my predictions to make the waiting even worse! Oh, but before I forget:

Prediction challenge update:

Why do I predict these results? If you didn't read last weeks SPL newspost (go fix that, I'll wait), I decided to rise to the challenge of trying to predict every single Proleague match this season, and trying to get a positive score following my point system. Here are the rules, once again:

If I predict the winner and the result correctly, 3 points
If I predict the winner correctly, and the result is off by 1, 1 point
If I predict the winner correctly and the result is off by 2, 0 points
If I predict the winner wrong, and the result is off by 1, -1 points
If I predict the winner wrong and the result is off by more than one, -2 points.


Here's my current progress after week 1:
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[image loading]Air Force ACE vs. Team 8 [image loading]

This matchup is tough to call. Although on paper, Team 8 is a large favorite, their roster lacks the preparation other teams enjoyed. On the other hand, ACE is the easiest to catch up to, since they have the least practice time out of all the teams in PL and the smallest amount of practice partners. What is going to decide the match is how the players are picked for the maps, and here's where Team 8 has the edge in my opinion. ACE has pretty much stated that it completely wings the sniping countersniping part of the map selection in favor of picking the maps they like and then drawing lots about who gets to play. This didn't really help ACE much against CJ, but it will make them harder to snipe. However, this also leads to a lot of WTF strategies like great vs. Flash or whatever Canata is going to pull whenever he gets sent out (which I believe he will, and pretty early in the match). Since team 8 seems to favor the same strategy of winging it and hoping it works, they'll likely end up winning by a close margin due to player difference,

My prediction: Air Force ACE 2-3 Team 8



[image loading]STX SouL vs. Woongjin Stars [image loading]

I expect STX to pull an upset here and win a set. The upset is especially great since the maps should be very beneficial to Woongjin.
My prediction: STX SouL 1-3 Woongjin Stars
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:'(


[image loading]CJ Entus vs. Samsung KHAN [image loading]

CJ looked invincible in the last 2 matches, but Samsung is a team of an entirely different caliber. They might have bad sniping like STX and ACE, but they look a lot scarier on paper, especially since we don't know how strong Jangbi has become. Samsung should at least win a set, but I wouldn't be too surprised if January flabberghasted everyone with another head-scratch-inducing lineup that will lead to a 3-0. I don't expect Samsung to win, but it would make the idea of an even Proleague more believable and thus CJ matches less of a predictable affair.
My prediction: CJ Entus 3-1 Samsung KHAN

[image loading]KT Rolster vs. SK Telecom T1[image loading]

If I said this brings up memories from the finals, I wouldn't be lying. Mostly because these 2 teams HAVE made up most of the Proleague finals in BW history. While KT seems to be out of form, they have always given 120% of themselves when facing their eternal rivals from the other Telecom company. Hence, it should still be a very nailbitingly close match with lots of drama and bans in the LR threads. On the other hand, KT tend to underperform in the 1st round of the Proleague and that is no exception vs. SKT. Here's how I think it will go:

First match on Chain Reaction, since it has been a Zerg map, the SKT coach will send out Bisu vs. KT's Crazy Hydra. Bisu will win, and the LR thread quiets down considerably in 20 minutes.

Second match on Jade, KT sends out Flash against N.die.Soo, and Flash wins a bit more handily than he should. KT fans rejoice, SKT fans say something along the lines of "Should have played Best."

Fake edit: Well they would have said it before August at least, I admit I'm a bit out of date.

In the third set on Outlier, we see another PvP, Stats vs. Best. Stats gets the better build order and wins despite a valiant effort from BeSt.

Fourth set on Ground Zero, Fantasy will play vs. Action. Despite bringing SKT fans to a nervous breakdown at at least one point in the game, he wins his game and spares us another use of the "Fantasy gg-timing" meme. Action gets more flak for not living up to expectations.

Fifth set, Sun vs. Mind on Sniper ridge. Tensions are high and both players nerves are on end. Sun makes a slight mistake and is punished for it, but it looks he might come back. Then Mind pushes and loses all his tanks, starting a downward spiral that ends in SKT winning.
My prediction: KT Rolster 2-3 SK Telecom T1




Game of the week: KT vs. SKT . If you watch one game this week, make it this one, or you won't know what everyone's talking about.

Thanks to Simplistik for the CJ, STX, Woongjin, KHAN, ACE, and Team 8 uniform logos!




This Proleague update was brought to you by Team Liquid's SPL 2011-12 R1 coverage team - riptide, HawaiianPig, Kiante, mustaju and guest writers Harem, Xxio, thedeadhaji, and MrHoon.

This weeks graphics were brought to you by newcomers pathy and Meko!

See you all next week. Good games, and good night!

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HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
December 05 2011 08:53 GMT
#2
Extra Extra!
AdministratorNot actually Hawaiian.
pathy
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Taiwan619 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 08:54:51
December 05 2011 08:53 GMT
#3
woooo
go khan!

nice work all ^^
Graphicscolosi suck
Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
December 05 2011 08:59 GMT
#4
Nice write-up! Still cheering for KT but my hopes are dwindling.
Writer@joonjoewong
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
December 05 2011 08:59 GMT
#5
gosu writeup...I think there are a lot more SC2 fans watching proleague (like me!) and it's truly the pinnacle of ESPORTS right now. By.Sun vs Sea was my favourite of the week.
Dandy4
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States493 Posts
December 05 2011 08:59 GMT
#6
Awesome!!!!
Who let the dogs out?
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
December 05 2011 09:07 GMT
#7
BW writing team once again sets new standards. Great article
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 09:11:00
December 05 2011 09:08 GMT
#8
omg mustaju is estonian?
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 05 2011 09:13 GMT
#9
wtf crazy editing
gostunv
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan1178 Posts
December 05 2011 09:16 GMT
#10
damn haji dropping the truth!

hopefully PL this year is exciting up to the very last. Although the finals thing concerns me greatly....
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TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
December 05 2011 09:18 GMT
#11
I'm so impressed with how the articles have developed through the year and a half I've been on TL! Great work guys! Got something to read during my lunch break now
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Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
December 05 2011 09:19 GMT
#12
I am really liking the format for the article. Good job.
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
December 05 2011 09:24 GMT
#13
Great writeup as usual proleague team. HawaiianPig's graphics are OP.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
December 05 2011 09:25 GMT
#14
On December 05 2011 18:24 red4ce wrote:
Great writeup as usual proleague team. HawaiianPig's graphics are OP.

Credit where credit is due, Pathy and Meko teamed up and did the graphics this week, HP worked as an editor
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elsation
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia661 Posts
December 05 2011 09:30 GMT
#15
Great write up, and wow, those week one predictions were good
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
December 05 2011 09:37 GMT
#16
Fantastic job guys. This is unbelievably well done.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 05 2011 09:38 GMT
#17
great read thanks!
Stork[gm]
bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 09:38:53
December 05 2011 09:38 GMT
#18
On December 05 2011 18:25 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 18:24 red4ce wrote:
Great writeup as usual proleague team. HawaiianPig's graphics are OP.

Credit where credit is due, Pathy and Meko teamed up and did the graphics this week, HP worked as an editor

i want brood war to die quickly so your excellent editorial + graphics guys can start making sc2 articles
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
Selth
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States469 Posts
December 05 2011 09:42 GMT
#19
Sick write-up, sick formatting, and let's see if mustaju will turn out to be the Paul the Octopus of Proleague.
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
December 05 2011 09:42 GMT
#20
On December 05 2011 18:38 bbm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 18:25 Kiante wrote:
On December 05 2011 18:24 red4ce wrote:
Great writeup as usual proleague team. HawaiianPig's graphics are OP.

Credit where credit is due, Pathy and Meko teamed up and did the graphics this week, HP worked as an editor

i want brood war to die quickly so your excellent editorial + graphics guys can start making sc2 articles


THEY WILL NEVER FALL TO THE DARK SIDE!

Great write up and graphics. Slight error in the introduction "meet each other next you can rest assured that there will be no love lost between them"
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
December 05 2011 09:46 GMT
#21
my dick is so hard right now
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Suvorov
Profile Joined December 2010
294 Posts
December 05 2011 09:51 GMT
#22
I really liked hearing criticism on the whole boy-band promotional attempts by 'the powers that be'. I always found it ridiculous to see the players paraded like pathetic boytoys. What the hell man, instead of talking about A or B player's amazing skill or personality, we're now discussing his hairstyle, clothes, good or bad looks? WTF

I agree with one of the writers above and will complement by saying it is truly a sign of decay. I suppose this is strongly related to the power of the 'pop' culture in Korea but c'me on, ask yourselves:

When you think of Flash, the almighty, what's the first thing that comes to mind?

A) whether he's good looking or bad
B) whether he wears clothes according to fashion styles or not
C) who he dates or doesn't date
D) his makeup or lack of
E) his mother-fucking-amazing skills

I think the choice is pretty obvious. Sure, it's nice to get to meet the person behind the name but, A,B,C,D are superfluous topics hardly pertaining to the actual nature and character of the player

I also really liked how the topic of the production value was brought up. No significative improvements on production value yet a steep rise on production costs. Definitely a big no no.

Thanks for the great article and insight!
If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard.
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
December 05 2011 09:57 GMT
#23
Great job guys, amazing write-up. =)
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a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
December 05 2011 09:57 GMT
#24
Beautiful writeup :D, I'm glad PL back on and running beautifully, I can't wait for the rest of the season!
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 10:03:09
December 05 2011 10:00 GMT
#25
Amazing article as usual.
Thanks a lot.


On December 05 2011 18:51 Suvorov wrote:
I really liked hearing criticism on the whole boy-band promotional attempts by 'the powers that be'. I always found it ridiculous to see the players paraded like pathetic boytoys. What the hell man, instead of talking about A or B player's amazing skill or personality, we're now discussing his hairstyle, clothes, good or bad looks? WTF

I agree with one of the writers above and will complement by saying it is truly a sign of decay. I suppose this is strongly related to the power of the 'pop' culture in Korea but c'me on, ask yourselves:

When you think of Flash, the almighty, what's the first thing that comes to mind?

A) whether he's good looking or bad
B) whether he wears clothes according to fashion styles or not
C) who he dates or doesn't date
D) his makeup or lack of
E) his mother-fucking-amazing skills

I think the choice is pretty obvious. Sure, it's nice to get to meet the person behind the name but, A,B,C,D are superfluous topics hardly pertaining to the actual nature and character of the player

I also really liked how the topic of the production value was brought up. No significative improvements on production value yet a steep rise on production costs. Definitely a big no no.

Thanks for the great article and insight!


You sure have never heard of this thread.
ॐ
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 05 2011 10:01 GMT
#26
Good read thanks for this .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
December 05 2011 10:02 GMT
#27
design rocks, reminds me of something that good and old, ...oh wait?
keep up the good work guys!
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
December 05 2011 10:08 GMT
#28
Loved the content, I also have a bad feeling we're gonna go down 0-3 (as in, for the season, not the match score) this week.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
December 05 2011 10:11 GMT
#29
On December 05 2011 18:08 fusefuse wrote:
omg mustaju is estonian?

Geez, like the name isn't a dead giveaway? :S

On December 05 2011 18:42 Selth wrote:
Sick write-up, sick formatting, and let's see if mustaju will turn out to be the Paul the Octopus of Proleague.

I don't want to die so soon.
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PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
December 05 2011 10:12 GMT
#30
Great write-up guys, love the new layout.

Grats on the predictions Mustaju - should be fun seeing if you can stay above the line all season. GL mate
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
December 05 2011 10:16 GMT
#31
Wow, your predictions are imba haha.

Ace to mess up your score!
Jaedong :3
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
December 05 2011 10:20 GMT
#32
both content and layout are sickkkkk
ThE)ShoWTimE
Profile Joined August 2011
Italy213 Posts
December 05 2011 10:24 GMT
#33
WOW sick write up and very nice graphics!
Nice job and good proleague to everyone =)
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 05 2011 10:27 GMT
#34
Jesus. The .. that formatting. It's beautiful. Great writeup!
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 05 2011 10:27 GMT
#35
Sick sick format.

I wouldn't say Reality is a rookie and Grape is an ace for Khan, Reality's actually had slightly better results and taken out bigger names lately.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
December 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#36
mustaju #1 octopaul :D

Yay for SPL and another amazing writeup! They just get better and better every week. I'm so excited for Friday's game :>
Writer:o
ellerina
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines452 Posts
December 05 2011 10:35 GMT
#37
No Total War this week?

Thanks for the writeups and recaps!
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 10:37:01
December 05 2011 10:36 GMT
#38
On December 05 2011 17:53 HawaiianPig wrote:
Extra Extra!
Ho wow xD
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
December 05 2011 10:48 GMT
#39
Great to see some really good matches once again, decent reporting as well. Broodwar forever fighting ^^
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
December 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#40
GOGOGO BW!

<3
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strayd
Profile Joined November 2011
United States9 Posts
December 05 2011 10:52 GMT
#41
Wow!

Awesome format compels me to say you guys all do such a great job! =D Thanks for all the hard work, great coverage, the laughs, and making everything SC so enjoyable. <3

ps Go Team 8!
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 11:05:57
December 05 2011 11:05 GMT
#42
On December 05 2011 19:11 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 18:08 fusefuse wrote:
omg mustaju is estonian?

Geez, like the name isn't a dead giveaway? :S


hahaha
it wasnt
before
to me it actually sounded sorta spanish, or thats just how i always pronounced it in my head. Mustaahhu/Mustaazhu
well played,
senor blackbrain



KUDOS TO EVERYONE INVOLVED BTW

these writeups keep getting better and better and better!

also, im very impressed (and jealous) of pathys and mekos work
like srsly
meko the css wizard?
Liquipedia@jkursk
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
December 05 2011 11:10 GMT
#43
You guysssssssssssssssss

Thanks Simplistik too for the cool guernseys
Sucker for nostalgia
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
December 05 2011 11:25 GMT
#44
Amazing work on this article!

hi hawem
Liquipedia
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9497 Posts
December 05 2011 11:28 GMT
#45
EPIC writeup!

Proleague so good in every way.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 05 2011 11:41 GMT
#46
Fantastic write-up. Loved the "Gone But Not Forgotten" -section by Xxio, Haji and Hoon.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6547 Posts
December 05 2011 11:43 GMT
#47
epic job. thanks
tiaz
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden231 Posts
December 05 2011 12:01 GMT
#48
Superb editing, holy shit!
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
December 05 2011 12:03 GMT
#49
Oh Holy Shit

Much love, TL!!! <3<3<3<3<3
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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2585 Posts
December 05 2011 12:09 GMT
#50
The part about Oz fans switching over to team8 easily.... is pretty friggin spot on lol
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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
December 05 2011 12:22 GMT
#51
SO AWESOME.

for broodwaruuuu!
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
December 05 2011 12:22 GMT
#52
nice :3
POGGERS
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 05 2011 12:32 GMT
#53
One of the most amazing writeups I've ever seen. Possibly the first one I've read from start to beginning.
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Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
December 05 2011 12:47 GMT
#54
That format is the sexiest thing I've ever seen on the Internet. And of course, the writeup itself is just captivating. Excellent, excellent work, everyone.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 12:57:47
December 05 2011 12:56 GMT
#55
On December 05 2011 17:53 HawaiianPig wrote:
Extra Extra!

nananananananananananananananananananananananana

BATMAN!
+ Show Spoiler +


great writeup guys.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
December 05 2011 13:12 GMT
#56
;_; the interview made me depressed
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Wockets
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong467 Posts
December 05 2011 13:14 GMT
#57
Really awesome article.
Awesome new format!
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
December 05 2011 13:33 GMT
#58
Mindblowing news article, as always.

Mustaju is the prediction king while I have managed to get 1 out of 4 LBs right. Sounds about right.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 05 2011 13:36 GMT
#59
That was a sexy article. But please, don't make the interviews that depressing T_T
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 05 2011 13:54 GMT
#60
Not enough battle reports o;

We had some truly epic games last week. The report doesn't really do justice to Effort's comeback story and all the cuteness we saw.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
December 05 2011 14:01 GMT
#61
Very nicely done!
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
December 05 2011 14:05 GMT
#62
Great writeup!
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
December 05 2011 14:08 GMT
#63
Hoon wrote:
Hwaseung fans will do fine. It's not like they actually root for anyone aside from Jaedong LOL!

So true.
sephirotharg
Profile Joined August 2010
United States91 Posts
December 05 2011 14:08 GMT
#64
BW write-up team is OP, must be nerfed immediately!

But seriously, thanks for the awesome article everyone. Makes following Proleague much easier than watching all the games during finals week! And holy balls, Mustaju, are you some kind of ESPORTS prophet come from the future to lay the truth on us? Some startlingly accurate predictions...I look forward to following your progress throughout the season.
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
December 05 2011 14:17 GMT
#65
Love the writeup I am a SC2 player but I wanted to get back to the roots and I gotta say I love proleauge!!
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
December 05 2011 14:26 GMT
#66
awesome job guys
great decor style of weekend newspaper
havnt read this yet but once the blunt is ready gonna jump head first
so excited !~!!
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
December 05 2011 14:29 GMT
#67
Sigh...if only all BW players had the sheer awesome personality of Firebathero perhaps finding sponsors wouldn't be an issue. That guy is pure entertainment regardless of whether he wins or looses. Seriously, FBH puts the "star" in Starcraft.

I really hope BW isn't dying. I just discovered it.
I'm a noob
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
December 05 2011 14:40 GMT
#68
This was a pretty sweet write up. Thank you for doing a lot on just one week of proleague!
Brood War forever!
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
December 05 2011 14:44 GMT
#69
Fantastic article. Wonderfully done yet again.

On December 05 2011 17:59 Wunder wrote:
Nice write-up! Still cheering for KT but my hopes are dwindling.

Don't lose hope!
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
December 05 2011 14:45 GMT
#70
Prediction off by ONE game. Nice.
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
December 05 2011 15:05 GMT
#71
tt KT always does poorly at the beginning of the season. I have faith that we'll turn it around.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 05 2011 15:07 GMT
#72
Welcome newcoming artists!
Great write-up, haha Hoon and Haji!
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Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States369 Posts
December 05 2011 15:33 GMT
#73
Graphics are totally sick <3
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Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
December 05 2011 15:37 GMT
#74
GJ with with the writeup guys, amazing job by all of you!
Also Mustaju wow at the predictions lol
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Malaysia1731 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 16:03:46
December 05 2011 16:03 GMT
#75
great write up. Thanks

KT fighting!!!!
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
December 05 2011 16:10 GMT
#76
Should do that picking section with guest pickers like Kona.

For some reason, using a serif font makes articles so much more badass, I don't know why but it made me want to re-read the whole thing.
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Korea (South)1556 Posts
December 05 2011 16:17 GMT
#77
Sweet write-up, looking forward to week 2!
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Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
December 05 2011 16:23 GMT
#78
As always, the BW articles are the best writing/editing on TL. Thanks for your effort.
gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
December 05 2011 16:30 GMT
#79
On December 05 2011 18:51 Suvorov wrote:
I really liked hearing criticism on the whole boy-band promotional attempts by 'the powers that be'. I always found it ridiculous to see the players paraded like pathetic boytoys. What the hell man, instead of talking about A or B player's amazing skill or personality, we're now discussing his hairstyle, clothes, good or bad looks? WTF

I agree with one of the writers above and will complement by saying it is truly a sign of decay. I suppose this is strongly related to the power of the 'pop' culture in Korea but c'me on, ask yourselves:

When you think of Flash, the almighty, what's the first thing that comes to mind?

A) whether he's good looking or bad
B) whether he wears clothes according to fashion styles or not
C) who he dates or doesn't date
D) his makeup or lack of
E) his mother-fucking-amazing skills

I think the choice is pretty obvious. Sure, it's nice to get to meet the person behind the name but, A,B,C,D are superfluous topics hardly pertaining to the actual nature and character of the player

I also really liked how the topic of the production value was brought up. No significative improvements on production value yet a steep rise on production costs. Definitely a big no no.

Thanks for the great article and insight!


It's because you're not the target market. Girls are the target market.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 05 2011 16:35 GMT
#80
Really nice article thank you ^^
DiHeSt
Profile Joined November 2011
Czech Republic7 Posts
December 05 2011 16:52 GMT
#81
gj
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 16:58:42
December 05 2011 16:58 GMT
#82
On December 05 2011 18:51 Suvorov wrote:
I really liked hearing criticism on the whole boy-band promotional attempts by 'the powers that be'. I always found it ridiculous to see the players paraded like pathetic boytoys. What the hell man, instead of talking about A or B player's amazing skill or personality, we're now discussing his hairstyle, clothes, good or bad looks? WTF

I agree with one of the writers above and will complement by saying it is truly a sign of decay. I suppose this is strongly related to the power of the 'pop' culture in Korea but c'me on, ask yourselves:

When you think of Flash, the almighty, what's the first thing that comes to mind?

A) whether he's good looking or bad
B) whether he wears clothes according to fashion styles or not
C) who he dates or doesn't date
D) his makeup or lack of
E) his mother-fucking-amazing skills

I think the choice is pretty obvious. Sure, it's nice to get to meet the person behind the name but, A,B,C,D are superfluous topics hardly pertaining to the actual nature and character of the player

I also really liked how the topic of the production value was brought up. No significative improvements on production value yet a steep rise on production costs. Definitely a big no no.

Thanks for the great article and insight!


Sigh, one of the reason SC:BW seems so much more legit as a "Sport" compared to SC2 is the hordes of fangirls that we have. Where SC2 games are mostly spectated and cheered on by a bunch of dudes, we have grandmas, Rock Stars, Race Queens, hot chicks, little baby girls, etc cheering in SC:BW games. I don't see why you have a problem with SC:BW stars being treated like some sort of celebrities rather than simple gaming-dudes.

Plus your example is so skewed.. Flash has never been known for his looks (i don't think im mistaken when i say that Flash looks average at best).. Many other progamers though, have been known to be handsome: BoXeR, Nada, Saviour, Bisu, Jaedong, YellOw, Reach, Hwasin, etc... If you picked Bisu (<3) instead i might be a little undecided (if only for a moment).

In any case, good-looking stars + fangirls = natural result.. SC2 might have BoXeR and Nada now, but it lacks the other variable.. Plus theres another factor which i would like to list out as well, but will refrain in order to avoid another flamewar (or shitfest :3)

Edit: Almost forgot, awesome write-up, guys :3 quality just keep on improving recently <3
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fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
December 05 2011 17:08 GMT
#83
Great work, was quite sad to see T8 lose to SKT :/
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 17:23:04
December 05 2011 17:11 GMT
#84
loved the format, mustaju if you dont win liquibet ill be dissapointed
ace hwaiting!!
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
December 05 2011 17:14 GMT
#85
SPL Writeups are always great. Many thanks to the writing and graphics teams!
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
December 05 2011 17:58 GMT
#86
Wow, awesome write up and formatting of the article! Good job, look forward to more
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hoolaboris
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)55 Posts
December 05 2011 18:19 GMT
#87
Where can I find a schedule of proleague matches? I'm in seoul and I wanna go watch it. It's in the OGN studios now, right?
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
December 05 2011 18:29 GMT
#88
good write up!
Whatever happens, happens
CosmicHippo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States547 Posts
December 05 2011 18:33 GMT
#89
Great article, really brighting my passion for broodwar.
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catleaves
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
December 05 2011 18:37 GMT
#90
woohoo! awesome article! :D thank you! :D
^^
Mr.Brightside
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia317 Posts
December 05 2011 18:53 GMT
#91
Great writeup and very interesting opinions about how they feel since the disbanding of a few teams. I think it's true that we cheer for the players more than anything else, luckily my favourite players have hung around or have returned (yay effort!), but I do feel sorry for people's who's favourites have left (poor Anytime, you crazy bastard). I missed almost all of the matches this week so it was a really useful read. Great to hear CJ is kicking ass!
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babysuperga
Profile Joined November 2011
Vietnam49 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 19:02:51
December 05 2011 19:02 GMT
#92
Last week's prediction was incredible, but I don't think it will be this time.
Because I don't think CJ Entus is unbeatable like that :d
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#93
On December 06 2011 01:30 gen.Sun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 18:51 Suvorov wrote:
I really liked hearing criticism on the whole boy-band promotional attempts by 'the powers that be'. I always found it ridiculous to see the players paraded like pathetic boytoys. What the hell man, instead of talking about A or B player's amazing skill or personality, we're now discussing his hairstyle, clothes, good or bad looks? WTF

I agree with one of the writers above and will complement by saying it is truly a sign of decay. I suppose this is strongly related to the power of the 'pop' culture in Korea but c'me on, ask yourselves:

When you think of Flash, the almighty, what's the first thing that comes to mind?

A) whether he's good looking or bad
B) whether he wears clothes according to fashion styles or not
C) who he dates or doesn't date
D) his makeup or lack of
E) his mother-fucking-amazing skills

I think the choice is pretty obvious. Sure, it's nice to get to meet the person behind the name but, A,B,C,D are superfluous topics hardly pertaining to the actual nature and character of the player

I also really liked how the topic of the production value was brought up. No significative improvements on production value yet a steep rise on production costs. Definitely a big no no.

Thanks for the great article and insight!


It's because you're not the target market. Girls are the target market.

i blame k-pop for that
Stork[gm]
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
December 05 2011 19:28 GMT
#94
On December 05 2011 18:46 flamewheel wrote:
my dick is so hard right now


lol my... blood flow exactly.
enslaved[t]
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway46 Posts
December 05 2011 19:38 GMT
#95
Hey, I'd like to say that I first got into this community via Starcraft 2, and I thought BW was not so entertaining mostly due to the graphics really. But every time I read these sick write ups I wish I got into the BW community aswell, I know all the teams and most of their players, but what I'm wondering if there is a place where I can watch the BW vods with English casters?
Thanks in advance : )
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HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
December 05 2011 20:11 GMT
#96
On December 06 2011 04:38 enslaved[t] wrote:
Hey, I'd like to say that I first got into this community via Starcraft 2, and I thought BW was not so entertaining mostly due to the graphics really. But every time I read these sick write ups I wish I got into the BW community aswell, I know all the teams and most of their players, but what I'm wondering if there is a place where I can watch the BW vods with English casters?
Thanks in advance : )


The wonderful Sayle is doing English casts on a regular basis: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286288

We plan to make that more well known in coming updates.
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
December 05 2011 20:25 GMT
#97
Games of the Week

3. Horang2 v Piano

2. Jaedong v Mind

1. Effort v Iris
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Render
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States249 Posts
December 05 2011 20:57 GMT
#98
Great write up, thank you so much for the time and effort you put in.
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KRaver
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1264 Posts
December 05 2011 21:01 GMT
#99
Awesome write up !
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#100
Nice, a finals rematch!

SKT!
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VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
December 05 2011 22:20 GMT
#101
mustaju said
It's fitting that the Estonian word "kannatus" means both "patience" and "suffering"...


Canata's aka finally explained?
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chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 23:15:00
December 05 2011 22:41 GMT
#102
On December 05 2011 17:53 HawaiianPig wrote:
Extra Extra


Woah.. You gotta warn me next time you gonna do that! :p

Nice write up!
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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
December 05 2011 22:54 GMT
#103
On December 06 2011 07:20 VGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
mustaju said
It's fitting that the Estonian word "kannatus" means both "patience" and "suffering"...


Canata's aka finally explained?

Whenever I see Canata play, suffering does come to mind. -.-
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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
December 05 2011 23:00 GMT
#104
Thanks for the writeup
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
enslaved[t]
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway46 Posts
December 05 2011 23:17 GMT
#105
The wonderful Sayle is doing English casts on a regular basis: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286288

We plan to make that more well known in coming updates.


Thanks a lot
Forum Lurker
sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
December 05 2011 23:37 GMT
#106
great read thanks guys!
Hi Mom
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 06 2011 00:00 GMT
#107
All I can say, is you're goddamn good at predictions.
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
December 06 2011 00:04 GMT
#108
Awesome writeup! BW fighting!
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 06 2011 01:56 GMT
#109
Amazing article for an amazing week of an amazing tournament for an amazing game.

But
My prediction: Air Force ACE 2-3 Team 8
seems doubtful. I think the 8 players will just be too good.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
MrSandman
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia188 Posts
December 06 2011 02:17 GMT
#110
Sooooo excited for the season. GO ACE!!!!
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stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
December 06 2011 02:45 GMT
#111
good write up,

and yes, im jelly!
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 06 2011 02:51 GMT
#112
aweosme writeu p guys :D:D:

haha hoon and haji. H&H.

mustaju cool predictions. i think i agree with all of them! :D and 'kannatus' soudns like a hella badass word.
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Suvorov
Profile Joined December 2010
294 Posts
December 06 2011 03:25 GMT
#113
On December 05 2011 19:00 endy wrote:
You sure have never heard of this thread.


Yes I have, it's precisely part of my point. By any reasonable standard, Nada's body is nothing amazing, yet seemingly everybody in that thread took it ten steps further.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 06 2011 03:26 GMT
#114
this is pretty sweet
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 06 2011 04:20 GMT
#115
On December 05 2011 18:38 bbm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 18:25 Kiante wrote:
On December 05 2011 18:24 red4ce wrote:
Great writeup as usual proleague team. HawaiianPig's graphics are OP.

Credit where credit is due, Pathy and Meko teamed up and did the graphics this week, HP worked as an editor

i want brood war to die quickly so your excellent editorial + graphics guys can start making sc2 articles


I think the writers would just go into depression and hibernate


On December 06 2011 01:30 gen.Sun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 18:51 Suvorov wrote:
I really liked hearing criticism on the whole boy-band promotional attempts by 'the powers that be'. I always found it ridiculous to see the players paraded like pathetic boytoys. What the hell man, instead of talking about A or B player's amazing skill or personality, we're now discussing his hairstyle, clothes, good or bad looks? WTF

I agree with one of the writers above and will complement by saying it is truly a sign of decay. I suppose this is strongly related to the power of the 'pop' culture in Korea but c'me on, ask yourselves:

When you think of Flash, the almighty, what's the first thing that comes to mind?

A) whether he's good looking or bad
B) whether he wears clothes according to fashion styles or not
C) who he dates or doesn't date
D) his makeup or lack of
E) his mother-fucking-amazing skills

I think the choice is pretty obvious. Sure, it's nice to get to meet the person behind the name but, A,B,C,D are superfluous topics hardly pertaining to the actual nature and character of the player

I also really liked how the topic of the production value was brought up. No significative improvements on production value yet a steep rise on production costs. Definitely a big no no.

Thanks for the great article and insight!


It's because you're not the target market. Girls are the target market.


So true T_T

<hr>

Thanks for the compliments; I think this is my first "News" contribution in at least 3 years P

Seriously, huge props to the designers
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
December 06 2011 04:51 GMT
#116
Great writeup. Though I'm banking on Khan beating CJ this week.
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HardMacro
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada361 Posts
December 06 2011 05:02 GMT
#117
Awesome write-up, I don't think the predications will be nearly as accurate this time hehe.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ saving this here because I use it, don't know how to make it, and don't know it's name
nakor
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada19 Posts
December 06 2011 05:18 GMT
#118
I love you guys so much.
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NGrNecris
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand855 Posts
December 06 2011 06:02 GMT
#119
amazing article as always
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
December 06 2011 06:25 GMT
#120
I can see Sun or Best winning game 5 in SKT VS KT.

Unless it's against Flash, then they lose.
Jaedong plz
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
December 06 2011 06:59 GMT
#121
nice, thanks !
T H C makes ppl happy
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
December 06 2011 08:11 GMT
#122
yet another amazing article, i am very curious as to how long this takes to write...
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pappelee
Profile Joined April 2010
China34 Posts
December 06 2011 13:51 GMT
#123
wow,this is unbelievable,thanks for your great job!!!
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
December 06 2011 15:18 GMT
#124
great write up
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Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Finland403 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 18:35:06
December 06 2011 18:34 GMT
#125
Outstanding article! I loved the format.
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
December 06 2011 23:36 GMT
#126
Thanks for doing this. Been tired of SC2 for a while so BW getting this much love is awesome.

BTW, I think if you have a 3-0 prediction that ends up being an 0-3 result, you should go -3 for that match.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10129 Posts
December 07 2011 00:54 GMT
#127
Lold at the amazing predictions lol. very nice write up guys!
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Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 04:54:02
December 07 2011 04:41 GMT
#128
Rofl i'm an idiot, sorry ^_^
Writer
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
December 07 2011 13:41 GMT
#129
Very nice writeup!
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dark0dave
Profile Joined November 2010
179 Posts
December 07 2011 23:22 GMT
#130
Great write up guys!! CJ looks amazing so far.
What is dead may never die. BW forever.
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 08 2011 09:13 GMT
#131
This is fucking super cool! BW content gets prettier while SC2 nothing really happens
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Taawus
Profile Joined February 2010
Estonia36 Posts
December 08 2011 21:49 GMT
#132
Mustaju best aju!
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
December 08 2011 23:14 GMT
#133
You guys are getting pretty good at this whole internet as a newspaper thing
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
December 09 2011 05:15 GMT
#134
On December 08 2011 18:13 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
This is fucking super cool! BW content gets prettier while SC2 nothing really happens

Well put. I find this very fitting to describe the games too.

And ofc the writeup is fucking super cool as usual!
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
juxtaposedhearts0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States50 Posts
December 09 2011 09:36 GMT
#135
There is an overlay up during a live game...what the fuck is going on?
Twitter: juxtaposedheart
ionize
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Ireland399 Posts
December 09 2011 10:22 GMT
#136
Awesome right-up. Thanks a bunch. The predictions are great as well, and I hope that you get them good again. BUT I don't think KHAN will go down that easily. Rather 2:3, though I'd hate to see KHAN lose anywas *lol* .
I just love video games, what's your excuse?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 11 2011 22:32 GMT
#137
How good is this article written? Damn. Too bad I don't understand anything from BW .
I had a good night of sleep.
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