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[GSL] October Code-S/A - "Finding Hope" - Page 11

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Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 16:24:00
September 21 2011 16:23 GMT
#201
On September 21 2011 23:46 gatorling wrote:


Yeah for me it all comes down to a terrible design issue that allows such an easy tech path, I don't know how Blizzard can get out of it -.-

That easy tech path and the fact that everything is good along this tech path (compared to BW)...

What is concerning is the slowish pace at which Blizzard addresses the balance between all three races. As far as I'm concerned the clock is really ticking here.
Recently (last month or two) there is a consensus that GSL has simply gotten boring. It's the same match-up every single time and the entire tournament is dominated by Terrans.

A boring sporting event drives away spectators..which will drive away advertisers...which will deplete sponsorship dollars...which will drive away pro-gamers (or end their careers).
Blizzard has a lot to gain by quickly and intelligently addressing the balance issues. Positioning SC2 as THE E-sport game will benefit them greatly.

Not only do they get huge revenues from selling the game..They will open up new revenue streams by licensing broadcasting rights...then they make even more money by releasing updates to the game..you know..updating the graphics engine etc..

But this can't happen without a balanced game.


did you watched BW not so long ago? Only 1 race? Only mirror matchups? Mirror matchup final? It happens.
Give thanks and praise!
Kaxon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States117 Posts
September 21 2011 17:55 GMT
#202
Did ST_Superstar change his name to Max? Normally I hate name changes, but I guess this is appropriate since that guy's definitely not a superstar.
For the swarm!
pigtheman
Profile Joined January 2009
United States333 Posts
September 21 2011 18:42 GMT
#203
love the write up
and awesome pictures (:
*rawr* d(^_^d)
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
September 21 2011 19:43 GMT
#204
good article
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
September 21 2011 20:23 GMT
#205
Hope is SAGE... wow that guy's play is incredible
kemsley
Profile Joined October 2010
United Arab Emirates137 Posts
September 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#206
There is a really cute variation on the sad zealot wallpaper over on reddit - great work - really like it!
Panzerfaust7
Profile Joined May 2011
United States38 Posts
September 22 2011 07:26 GMT
#207
i have to agree this whole terran situation need to be addressed and fast. why are there so many terrans in the GSL frankly its boring, and i didnt even watch the last final. theres been enough TvT already. its time to nerf terran, and if your a terran player hey you had a good run playing an op race let protoss have a turn.
If you don't try to save one life, you will never save any.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
September 23 2011 03:06 GMT
#208
On September 21 2011 23:46 gatorling wrote:


Yeah for me it all comes down to a terrible design issue that allows such an easy tech path, I don't know how Blizzard can get out of it -.-

That easy tech path and the fact that everything is good along this tech path (compared to BW)...[/QUOTE]

What is concerning is the slowish pace at which Blizzard addresses the balance between all three races. As far as I'm concerned the clock is really ticking here.
Recently (last month or two) there is a consensus that GSL has simply gotten boring. It's the same match-up every single time and the entire tournament is dominated by Terrans.

A boring sporting event drives away spectators..which will drive away advertisers...which will deplete sponsorship dollars...which will drive away pro-gamers (or end their careers).
Blizzard has a lot to gain by quickly and intelligently addressing the balance issues. Positioning SC2 as THE E-sport game will benefit them greatly.

Not only do they get huge revenues from selling the game..They will open up new revenue streams by licensing broadcasting rights...then they make even more money by releasing updates to the game..you know..updating the graphics engine etc..

But this can't happen without a balanced game.
[/QUOTE]

Consensus? I don't think Forum nerds whining all day count as a majority, especially considering that Gomtv even added more matches to its broadcast I think GSL is doing fine atm. And really, Balance is such a fragile thing that they can't be putting out emergency patches every time a race is doing badly, it would just create a FotM balance situation
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Tabashi
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 14:10:17
September 23 2011 14:06 GMT
#209
Wow... There is no better word for this, just WOW! Great article.

P.S.: Just a reminder for all the whiners: this isn't a balance thread.
"I'll be the hero you deserve." - HerO, aKa the Batman Protoss
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
September 23 2011 18:49 GMT
#210
awesome article!
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
Scorch[DeltA]
Profile Joined August 2011
Mexico41 Posts
September 24 2011 16:46 GMT
#211
Really good article. Thanks for the write up. Huk fighting!
Discretion is the better part of Valor
LiveMad
Profile Joined September 2011
India3 Posts
September 26 2011 11:38 GMT
#212
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Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 21:09:11
September 28 2011 20:55 GMT
#213
TOP vs. CoCa

Coca is bad at ZvT.

Prediction: 1. TOP, 2. aLive, 3. SuperNoVa, 4. CoCa

(T)TOP <Tal'Darim Altar LE> (Z)CoCa
(T)SuperNoVa <Antiga Shipyard 1.1> (T)aLive
(Z)CoCa <Bel'Shir Beach 1.2> (T)SuperNoVa
(T)TOP <Crossfire SE> (T)aLive
(T)SuperNoVa <Xel'Naga Fortress> (T)aLive

Coca 2-0 advances to ro16.
Supernova 2-1 advances to ro16.
aLive 1-2 stays in code S.
TOP 0-2 drops to the up and top matches, victim of the finalist curse.


With the astute analysis that went into this prediction, who would have though he'd be wrong?

+ Show Spoiler +
I guess i'm actually not complaining about the faulty prediction so much, as i am just the lack of reasoning behind it.
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