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akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
August 07 2011 16:36 GMT
#101
although drg may have been hyped up, just stop and think

he lost to the top 2 players at mlg. he lost to the two best tvz players in the WORLD. both series was 2-1

the fact that you find him a loser because of that means you must think he's REALLY fucking good.
svi
Profile Joined October 2010
405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 16:49:22
August 07 2011 16:48 GMT
#102
if anything, tyler should be in the fail section.

he beat 1 good player in the open bracket due to bracket luck and that person spends more time coaching than playing.

then he goes 0-10 in pool play which is, I believe, a new record in fail. has anyone else in mlg ever gotten a 0-10 in group stage?

c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 07 2011 17:22 GMT
#103
Wow these pictures are seriously pro quality - wish there were some caption to go along with them.

I don't recognize all the players whose pictures were taken.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
August 07 2011 17:33 GMT
#104
<3

Love BoxeR!
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
EclipZe
Profile Joined March 2011
United States39 Posts
August 07 2011 17:50 GMT
#105
Gosh, this write up was excellent, it made me happy, I wish someone mentioned THE nuke. But it also left me feeling sad because foreigners really took one up the a$$.
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
August 07 2011 18:05 GMT
#106
Great article, intelligent evaluation and explanation of the state of foreign vs. Korean scene.
Railin
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada96 Posts
August 07 2011 18:13 GMT
#107
Sc2 strategies have an interesting history of being developed in Europe, perfected in Korea, and used on unsuspecting Americans.


This will end up as my new quote in sig! *chuckle*

I agree that Rain and ToD should have been included in the "winners" list.

Disagree about HuK and Nani being "losers" - one can't win everything, and they didn't do bad at all, they did very well, even if not great.
~~femFxRailin~~ "Sc2 strategies have an interesting history of being developed in Europe, perfected in Korea, and used on unsuspecting Americans" [Tree.Hugger]
tiaz
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden231 Posts
August 07 2011 18:15 GMT
#108
Waxangel delivers as usual! Wish I'd been there to be part of the cheer for BoxeR..
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." - Iloveoov
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
August 07 2011 18:17 GMT
#109
good article. well thought out. under losers you should have put korean protoss players.

none of them did very well.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 07 2011 18:19 GMT
#110
The article was great. Enjoyed it a lot. I think it strikes quite a few good points about the competition in SC2. Sadly didn't have time to watch much of MLG because of time zones+work. If the next MLG is kind enough, I might be able to LR it.... >.>"

Great photos at the end! Also, owmygroin has got to be one of the best names I've ever seen haha. I think I'm going to become a fan of Infinity Seven just for that.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
cheggelund
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway131 Posts
August 07 2011 18:27 GMT
#111
Great article, ty!
Adventurekid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Sweden505 Posts
August 07 2011 18:29 GMT
#112
Great writeup! "Jävla terran" xD
You should build a turtle fence!
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
August 07 2011 18:42 GMT
#113
idk if there's a HOF topic/post on TL but this deserves it

amazingly awesome write up
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 19:04:09
August 07 2011 18:47 GMT
#114
When it comes to Terran, the main problem, in my opinion, is that they are simply good at everything. They have no real weakness and can pretty much always apply pressure without any real risk. On the other hand, it is extremely difficult to apply pressure to the Terrans, due to medivacs, planetary fortress and bunkers. Having medics changed from a relatively poor and easy to kill healer to the much smoother medivacs, which gives free unlimited dropships is a bit over the top.

It may be because Terran were the focused race for Starcraft 2 but they just feel much more solid than any other race. This can most easily be shown in the mirror match-up. ZvZ or PvP is basically rock-paper-scissors, as they and their units and structures have so many weaknesses (and strengths to some degree) whilst in TvT, the T units and structures have little weaknesses and isn't as rock paper scissors-based, thus it makes the games generally won by the better player.

As for the tournament, the major disappointment wasn't Korea doing too well but the United States doing too poorly. The United States, which has bought more copies of Starcraft 2 than any other country, brought 200 of the best players to the tournament, with every single of their top players represented on their home turf. Still, they only managed to get 2 players into the top19 and zero in the top 8.

Even a tiny country such as Sweden did much better, despite just sending four players and hardly having the best represented there (such as Thorzain, Morrow or SaSe) and having purchased only 2% of the copies compared to the US.

Why does the US do so extremely poorly on a tournament in their own home country despite having such a massive amount of SC2 players? Judging from players such as Idra and other top US players, it must be something in the US mentality that makes them unable to succeed in games.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
August 07 2011 18:51 GMT
#115
On August 07 2011 11:27 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 11:17 Carlin wrote:
Wow, such a weak description of TL's status: "Teamkill"? You seem to enjoy using harsh words towards every other person on this planet, except for anyone involved with TL. That is a bit infuriating, imo. ;oo

Why don't you shed some light on how washed up Tyler, TLO, Jinro and Hayder has become? Amazing ignorance. Except for Sheth, TL needs some fresh, young, solid players. The fact that no one ever mentions this baffles me in these post-tourney articles.


TL did collectively better than any other foreign team. So before saying someone else was "washed up", please just think about their recent performances.

Dignitas got two players in the top10, so your statement is false.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
August 07 2011 19:15 GMT
#116
On August 07 2011 16:52 MediaOcrity wrote:
Can you not call it the AM server. Its the NA. North America. That is all.

Also, lets go EG and IdrA next tourney :D:D


Actually, since Blizzard has combined NA with South America now, it really is just "Americas" ,so AM is perfectly appropriate.
Joey Wheeler
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (North)276 Posts
August 07 2011 19:17 GMT
#117
When Game 1 of Boxer vs Rain is the featured game, you know there is something wrong with Esports. What I look for in a good game is non-stop action, with both players always being active in counter attacks or harassment, all while teching to be able to use their races' entire arsenal in this way.

What I got from Game 1 is an hour long stalemate of absolutely nothing, that eventually lead up to two balls of death engaging each other. How anyone could enjoy this game was beyond me, as it demonstrates exactly what is wrong with TvT.
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
August 07 2011 19:23 GMT
#118
On August 08 2011 03:47 Paladia wrote:

As for the tournament, the major disappointment wasn't Korea doing too well but the United States doing too poorly. The United States, which has bought more copies of Starcraft 2 than any other country, brought 200 of the best players to the tournament, with every single of their top players represented on their home turf. Still, they only managed to get 2 players into the top19 and zero in the top 8.

Even a tiny country such as Sweden did much better, despite just sending four players and hardly having the best represented there (such as Thorzain, Morrow or SaSe) and having purchased only 2% of the copies compared to the US.

Why does the US do so extremely poorly on a tournament in their own home country despite having such a massive amount of SC2 players? Judging from players such as Idra and other top US players, it must be something in the US mentality that makes them unable to succeed in games.


Guess you didn't read the article or maybe you just didn't understand it, but Korea (or Sweden if it makes you feel better) have a HUGE advantage because they are small countries. Not sure where you got the idea that sales numbers reflect the intensity of pro-gaming communities. Nice try though.
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 19:27:29
August 07 2011 19:26 GMT
#119
On August 08 2011 04:17 Joey Wheeler wrote:
When Game 1 of Boxer vs Rain is the featured game, you know there is something wrong with Esports.


Way to ruin E-sports Shindigs
I'm a writer for TeamLiquid, you've probably heard of me
GoSuSocrates
Profile Joined March 2011
206 Posts
August 07 2011 19:43 GMT
#120
Wontae (wbc) is one of the most amazing, humble, and hardworking guy you will ever meet =] I'm so happy for him and I look forward to seeing him win a major title in the future!
www.itsgosu.com | twitter.com/GoSuSocrates
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